Muay Thai vs Savate (Kickboxing Rules)

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Aluisio Fernandes da Silva Junior

Aluisio Fernandes da Silva Junior

10 жыл бұрын

David Hergault - Muay Thai (red trunks)
François Pennacchio - Savate (blue trunks)
ISKA Kickboxing - France 1997

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@lapidations
@lapidations 4 жыл бұрын
I've practiced Savate for only 6 months after having practiced other styles during about 5 years and I've noticed a significant improve in my defense. Specially because where I practiced I had to spar every day. In the beginning I came home with my ear ringing every day. At the end of the six months I'd practically never get hit in the face, and I was hitting my opponents a lot more too.
@evanfiend
@evanfiend 2 жыл бұрын
Yes yes!
@amybock5510
@amybock5510 2 жыл бұрын
That's because it teaches you to study the footwork when on defense or striking , and when you adjust to the timing of your opponent , it can allow you to manage distance .. And when you manage the distance , you can manage the damage .
@BobBob-oe9uf
@BobBob-oe9uf Жыл бұрын
Sparring every day for six months? Sounds rough. I hope you don't got mild brain damage.
@manwithnoplan5496
@manwithnoplan5496 Жыл бұрын
What other styles did you practice? Jw
@johngiaus8632
@johngiaus8632 Жыл бұрын
sparring everyday? Enjoy your brain damage bro lmao
@JakeHunter2010
@JakeHunter2010 7 жыл бұрын
Highly underrated art.
@MuffinsCrib
@MuffinsCrib 6 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@NeivGabay
@NeivGabay 6 жыл бұрын
MuffinsCrib i guess savate
@MrPoochie-jv8qd
@MrPoochie-jv8qd 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine the Parisian slums during the French Revolution. Barricades, grapeshot, and Savate.
@gaetantreib4163
@gaetantreib4163 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrPoochie-jv8qd sorry bro but savate was born on the XIX century.
@YoGribouillie
@YoGribouillie 4 жыл бұрын
@Nikolaij Brouiller France (and all the countries) possessed regional martial arts for hundreds of years which contributed to the savate. Savate was not born suddenly (no serious martial art was born suddenly)
@BarthelemyLesaint
@BarthelemyLesaint 9 жыл бұрын
Savate is so dynamic and fast !
@jessyaguilar3748
@jessyaguilar3748 7 жыл бұрын
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@kushanjayasekara4536
@kushanjayasekara4536 6 жыл бұрын
Saint Barthélemy tiff. Tk
@YamamotoKazuo
@YamamotoKazuo 4 жыл бұрын
Of course Bruce Lee's kicking is from savate not kung fu.
@Orfeu-1st
@Orfeu-1st 3 жыл бұрын
O savate tem chutes mais rápidos mais não tão potentes
@sebastiananderson2047
@sebastiananderson2047 2 жыл бұрын
@@YamamotoKazuo His kicking is from Taekwondo, not savate
@madtrade
@madtrade 9 жыл бұрын
a good savate figther is such a pain to fight against. i have immense respect for them, they are like 'ring mastermind'. they create false opportunity and punish you hard. they are such good technician
@gillesdemange9697
@gillesdemange9697 4 жыл бұрын
@@RokoKaran nonsense..
@you-cf7df
@you-cf7df 4 жыл бұрын
Complete bullshit! They're both terrible fighters but Muay Thai's guy should have won!
@NewYorkKnightsCombat1
@NewYorkKnightsCombat1 4 жыл бұрын
@@you-cf7df What fight were you watching? The Frenchman knocked the Muay Thai guy on his ass three times, forced two standing 8-counts, landed more punches and kicks, and did more damage. Pretty clear winner, if you ask me.
@zarroncello1
@zarroncello1 3 жыл бұрын
@@you-cf7df hahahahahahahahaha! what the fuck have you seen?
@lnanters
@lnanters 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and a terrible muay thai fighter is so easy to fight against
@StudioMod
@StudioMod 3 жыл бұрын
2:23 fucking unreal kick right there. the timing, landing, balance and recovery was just pitch perfect.
@hetgroenegif
@hetgroenegif Жыл бұрын
I've rewatched it about 50 times, you're right, it's unreal - he MUST have been planning if for about 3 seconds before, but you see NO indication of this, and also: Hergault's guard seemed to be tight enough. I'm rewatching and rewatching, and I just don't SEE the opening. Awesome kick.
@ryneagheilim9782
@ryneagheilim9782 Жыл бұрын
For me the 7:00 is SICK AF!! So unreal how much he was sent flying over such a minimal kick. It just shows power is not everything to take someone down
@cusoonmyfriend3738
@cusoonmyfriend3738 9 ай бұрын
11:55 ma dude
@hexkwondo
@hexkwondo 6 жыл бұрын
Savate is pretty underrated
@absolute757
@absolute757 4 жыл бұрын
Ive trained muay thai for many years....my coach always used to speak praise about savate how they have speed in their kicks....I see y now...that lead leg front kick from pinnachio was amazing
@dannteeskew9366
@dannteeskew9366 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a savateur but practiced muay thai years ago. The combination of these two is a brutal mix. Great fight
@paullytle246
@paullytle246 6 жыл бұрын
Dannte Eskew take a look at dutch kickboxing it encorparates botg
@tony_5156
@tony_5156 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard of savateur not only that but I’m pretty sure there aren’t any places here to train and learn it :/
@PLONG12345
@PLONG12345 2 жыл бұрын
@@paullytle246 nope, it combines 50 50 muay thau and boxing. Savateur still is faster than the dutch even they have the mobility. Yet those lightning fast kicks are not taught in dutch.
@kesenaememere8520
@kesenaememere8520 8 ай бұрын
@@PLONG12345 depends on the trainer. Dutch kickboxing base is heavily based on Kyokushin karate not muay Thai. Literally almost every Dutch trainer a form of Karate background.
@PLONG12345
@PLONG12345 8 ай бұрын
@@kesenaememere8520 i agree. But even kyokushin kicks are more power based rather than speed. Savate on the other hand i can compare to takewondo speed
@AngeloMastroberardino
@AngeloMastroberardino 3 жыл бұрын
The experience of Pennacchio... Always composed, always in savate style. I like how he keeps the arms close to his face, making it more difficult to estimate his arm range
@moa5382
@moa5382 Жыл бұрын
et OUI, il est dans le pure style de la Savate Boxe Française !
@lovervights
@lovervights 9 жыл бұрын
The only disadvantage for the savate fighter in this match is, because he can't wear his shoes, he can't kick with his toes.
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 9 жыл бұрын
He can't use oblique kicks too (chasse bas).
@imnotherenow200
@imnotherenow200 6 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a good thing really. Who'd wanna use their toes to kick
@ttun100
@ttun100 5 жыл бұрын
Shoes would protect the toes and and the point of the shoe would concentrate a lot of force on a small surface area.
@sukotsutoCSSR
@sukotsutoCSSR 5 жыл бұрын
@@imnotherenow200 You have like 4-6 inch reach advantage with boots, and you can kick without worrying much about your toes. Reinforced steel toe boots to the gut or teeth is extra damaging
@luchadorito
@luchadorito 4 жыл бұрын
The Muay Thai fighter cant use clinch which is a huge disadvantage
@TheAlaskaMarc
@TheAlaskaMarc 5 жыл бұрын
My seminar with Francois Pennacchio over 10 years ago was the highlight of my combat sport education (along with another seminar with Sylvain Postel). Savate has soooooo much to offer to any standup practionner, and even MMA. Crazy how so many of their concepts have yet to be used in other sports. (granted, we are seeing more and more of these concepts with top level UFC dudes)
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 5 жыл бұрын
You are very privileged to learn with François Pennacchio! He is a very technical fighter.
@yongjiean9980
@yongjiean9980 4 жыл бұрын
Please share any video of your seminar if you have. Savate is very good as a standup fighting for self defence
@axelb9203
@axelb9203 5 жыл бұрын
I used to practice savate for ten years and know only since few month I practice Muay Thai, and that is true we move a lot more in savate with all those little jump and we also deal better (I think) with the distance.
@ThomasHalsey-xs7sf
@ThomasHalsey-xs7sf 5 жыл бұрын
Yea I've trained Muay Thai for 5 years now and realising the limited movement of traditional Muay Thai I had to drill in being fleet footed like savate practitioner and it's helped a ton with being more explosive it's alot of fun
@shockwave68
@shockwave68 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Im noticing the same thing. Going from boxing to Muay Thai, the lack of footwork/distance control/ring generalship really bothered me. I see Savate as something that bridges the 2 in the middle. I dig it.
@stephengroff95
@stephengroff95 Жыл бұрын
For real it’s like you have a controlled taekwondo with actual punching and then throw Muay Thai it’s beastly
@volikoto
@volikoto 8 жыл бұрын
I like the Savate guy because he has more rhythm. He can immediately followup some punches after he kicks.
@TemplarX2
@TemplarX2 8 жыл бұрын
+volikoto It's less telegraphed but they kick with speed rather than power.
@combatfitness7092
@combatfitness7092 7 жыл бұрын
i never enjoyed savate techniques.. it looks like a frantic form of fighting.. the way they move.. they have no defense to the knees .. they dont know how to fight in the clinch.. and honestly, im all for footwork and evasion but the way they move makes it look like they are like rabbits.. dont like it..
@tony_5156
@tony_5156 5 жыл бұрын
Shovon Rahman it’s the nature of the fighter
@TKillah60
@TKillah60 3 жыл бұрын
@@combatfitness7092 CombatFITNESS doesn't like the dynamism of French Boxing ...
@PLONG12345
@PLONG12345 2 жыл бұрын
@@combatfitness7092 Opinion respected. We are the opposites tho because i dont like how Muay Thai fighters fight, they are like idiots beating each other up without evasive movements and footwork. It's ugly as fuck.
@marypalmensiii4142
@marypalmensiii4142 8 жыл бұрын
8:45 Just beautiful.. especially the last little kick to the supporting leg :)
@Stobus44
@Stobus44 7 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to see the differences in principles between Muay Thai, Savate and Kickboxing and in my opinion Savate combines striking and kicking best. In general.
@Liquidcadmus
@Liquidcadmus 7 жыл бұрын
The Savate fighter has really nice technique . the other guy seemed a little limited and always dropping his guard. muito bom video.
@Liquidcadmus
@Liquidcadmus 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucaslima4785 e que falo as duas linguas :)
@elvirusdnb3044
@elvirusdnb3044 Жыл бұрын
Savate is way the more fast and dynamic of the fighting arts. The concept is to make the opponent to fail, and to punish him, not using strenght but finding the sensible points. The golden rule is to attack always with at least 3 hits, the first hit is to make your opponent open and then you hit with the tip of the shoes (damnly hard) on liver, stomac, ribs, tendon, always finishing with front arm/leg in order to keep distance after the attack . Check again what Pennachio does... Another thing: in kick boxing and thai is forbidden to use the sole of the foot below the belt. When you receive a kick above the knee with the sole or even worst the heel meanwhile you are going towards your opponent, you knee is over extended, you are stopped, with no guard and balance, completely passive to your opponent. This simple kick is the worst weapon of savate that is never used (or even forbidden) in fighting sports.
@Funktastic_Ed
@Funktastic_Ed 8 жыл бұрын
You can see here how Savate uses the left leg (right handed fighter) way more than than Muay Taî, right is more powerfull, but left is way faster, it's like a Jab with the leg.
@evanfiend
@evanfiend 2 жыл бұрын
Jab with the kick has more reach and power than jab with a punch.
@castroirabradleys.4655
@castroirabradleys.4655 4 жыл бұрын
Huge respect for both fighters
@kingofdjembe
@kingofdjembe 11 ай бұрын
Man I've never watched this fight before and I gotta say, Pennacchio is very good here. He lands some very clean strikes and shows an amazing management of distance. It's a pleasure to watch. Made us savateurs proud lol
@abestone60
@abestone60 10 ай бұрын
Savate is fast and utilize boxing very well! Love those fancy kicks too!
@Logab13
@Logab13 7 жыл бұрын
Savate: boxe française Elle est nettement plus élégante , merci pour les commentaires positifs de cette boxe trop peu connue ...
@mouzai3957
@mouzai3957 4 жыл бұрын
@@mehdibagadah6892 cordialement
@jean-charles6255
@jean-charles6255 4 жыл бұрын
@@mehdibagadah6892 la preuve en image...Bizarement à chaque combats poings/pieds interdisciplines que je vois la bf l'emporte...
@kehehe9934
@kehehe9934 4 жыл бұрын
Personellement je trouve plus beau la thailandaise, je fais de la française mais je trouve que le fait de sautiller tout le temps ( on retrouve ça dans d'autres boxes ) est assez pénible pour soi, bref les deux boxes sont tres efficcaces et complètes
@julesreinhardt2647
@julesreinhardt2647 4 жыл бұрын
@@mehdibagadah6892 tu fait tiep toi
@Heimrik01
@Heimrik01 4 жыл бұрын
@@jean-charles6255 Je crois que c'est dû au fait que la savate, c'est vraiment une technique de pieds et poings tandis que dans le Muay thaï et le kick boxing on utilise plus les jambes. Dans la savate, le pratiquant enchaîne systématiquement un coup de pied par un coup de poing, chez les autres ce n'est pas le cas. De plus dans la savate d'après ce que je vois on leur enseigne la précision chez les autres la répétition.
@jordandoyle1534
@jordandoyle1534 8 ай бұрын
The way the savate guy throws his low kicks with his guard up is pretty cool. Istead of focusing on generating maximum power by swinging his arm down and exposing his chin. He instead just snaps the low kick out while guarded, still effective and much more safe.
@dragowXX
@dragowXX 8 жыл бұрын
savate style is more focus to combination move than muay thay
@brunochesnot7033
@brunochesnot7033 4 жыл бұрын
François c'est un super combattant doublé d'un super mec...j'ai participé avec lui au tournoi "kinf of the ring" au kirghistan lui en - 67 kg moi en - 63 kg. Nous avons mis les gants pour nous préparer à nos combats respectifs...et je peux vous dire que mine de rien ..CA FRAPPE !!!! sur tous les impacts. Il à d'ailleurs gagné le tournoi dans sa catégorie. Un mec humble, vrai guerrier et qui ne lâche rien avec en plus une intelligence du ring. Trop méconnu. Quelques images d'époque que de souvenir des précurseurs du pied/poing...bon visionnage a tous. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6ljZrJ8rNvKpac.html
@jonathanwolga3820
@jonathanwolga3820 9 ай бұрын
Je n'ai jamais vu François mais je l'admire depuis que je pratique la savate, par contre en kick je peux t'assurer que tu as été un super coach! La bise des cevennes
@brunochesnot7033
@brunochesnot7033 9 ай бұрын
coll merci c'est très sympa ....@@jonathanwolga3820
@Lobster_Lars
@Lobster_Lars 6 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! That David guy can take a hit. He just wouldn't give up!
@markymarco2570
@markymarco2570 7 жыл бұрын
14:53 man, what a kick Pennachio is a joy to watch fighting
@zarroncello1
@zarroncello1 10 жыл бұрын
great francois! great champion!
@TallshrewFishing
@TallshrewFishing 5 жыл бұрын
I realise that a lot is down to individual fighters in any fight but the few savate fighters I have seen have impressed me as has the style.
@DnLies
@DnLies 9 жыл бұрын
Pennacchio totally owned it...
@garrettharrison7411
@garrettharrison7411 7 жыл бұрын
Going to start watching savate fighters now...I am impressed.
@killersalmon4359
@killersalmon4359 9 жыл бұрын
Hergault's strategy seems to have been to get Pennacchio to punch and kick him repeatedly in the head to tire him out.
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 5 жыл бұрын
KillerSalmon , David Hergault used this same strategy of Conor McGregor against Khabib.
@ryandtibbetts2962
@ryandtibbetts2962 5 жыл бұрын
Ah... the Homer Simpson strategy.
@montinyek6554
@montinyek6554 4 жыл бұрын
KillerSalmon Dominick Cruz agrees
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 9 жыл бұрын
@Kai Watts, MMA fighter? David Hergault is a traditional Muay Thai fighter (Asian Style), which you can see by looking his stance and fighting style: low focus on boxing, high focus on kicking, low focus on combos, high focus on single hits, not very light on his feet. This is a good fight to see the difference between the 2 styles.
@darthclone7
@darthclone7 9 жыл бұрын
I think combinations depends on the individual.. if this savate guys fought saenchai or buakaw you will see a much bigger work rate from those elite.
@rationale01
@rationale01 9 жыл бұрын
Muay Thai is not low focus on combos. Single attacks in Muay Thai are to stop forward momentum for the most part, unless it's just a blatant opening. Muay Thai combos are 2 and 3 count usually. With 1 punch and a kick, 2 punches and 1 kick or 1 punch and 2 kicks. More than that usually isn't done because Muay Thai has a lot of countering, which stops most combos of more than 2 counts if your defense is tight.
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 9 жыл бұрын
***** Exactly, Adam K. The fighter David Hergault is a traditional muay-thai fighter (he trained in Thailand), his fighting style is very different from a european "muay-thai" kick-boxing fighter. Rules are different, fighting style is different.
@jmcfintona999
@jmcfintona999 8 жыл бұрын
at least the fight looks genuine and not a set up like some muay thai/karate/taekondo/kungfu vs each other that are obvious fakes my those looking to show the superiority of their martial art.
@Nostromo-Br
@Nostromo-Br 7 жыл бұрын
thai people eat dogs they don't know nothing
@jonathanwolga3820
@jonathanwolga3820 9 ай бұрын
Le chassé latéral haut jambe avant reste un des plus beaux coups de pieds que l'on puisse voir en boxe pieds poings, magnifique combat. Pennachio represente les tireurs de savate a l'ancienne, aussi forts qu'elegants, jai vu ce combat des dizaines de fois et je me régale toujours autant.
@Zack1440
@Zack1440 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Savate and Muay Thai are both very powerful self defense arts.
@ironjohn
@ironjohn 4 жыл бұрын
Highly underrated art and it is therefore dangerous. :)
@murphylhunn
@murphylhunn Жыл бұрын
Tremendous fight, thanks for uploading!
@Yongchundaiquan
@Yongchundaiquan 3 жыл бұрын
Both did a great job although they were both limited by the rules. MT cannot go for the sweep or throw and his elbows and knees were limited to be used during the clinch. Savate guy had the least limitations because his art suits well for the rules, but couldnt use Savate's signature shoes so his kicking power was significantly lowered. My reflections on both arts. In my opinion Savate is faster, with better footwork, has more reach and has a much better defense than Muay Thai. However Muai Thai is much more resourceful (eight limbs, clinch, throws and sweeps), develops an outstanding punishment tolerance and generates whole a lot more kicking power, although power difference is reduced when Savate has its shoes on. I still think Muay Thai kicks are stronger. Both are great arts and here we are looking at two great fighters.
@zzaronn
@zzaronn 2 жыл бұрын
one of the main savate kick is with the point of your foot on the liver, with shoes on that's something even more painful than a punch in your chin, could knock out anyone at anytime
@PpAirO5
@PpAirO5 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Savate seems to be both faster and more precise.
@marypalmensiii4142
@marypalmensiii4142 8 жыл бұрын
At 6:57 you see the essence of Muay Thai (Maximum Brute force) vs Savate (Timing and enough power).
@marypalmensiii4142
@marypalmensiii4142 8 жыл бұрын
+Mary Palmens III The missed kicks by MT fighter make it impossible to return the kicking foot back to its original position. This is something they teach in Savate NEVER to do.
@saporob
@saporob 8 жыл бұрын
+Mary Palmens III Put a pair of shoes and the muay thai didn't last 1 round. Use muay (asian)thai rules and the savate guy didn't last 1 round.
@Nostromo-Br
@Nostromo-Br 7 жыл бұрын
pennacchio was master in kickboxing , muay thai and savate, he don t use pure savate
@grarghov1
@grarghov1 7 жыл бұрын
actually if the red guy would have focused on fast and accurate attacks instead of concentrating on constantly making ridiculous "pffch", "ssh", tssckh" sounds along with his haymaker-style kicks (as this can be heard even when missing by a mile, it is obvious that he is slithering with his mouth...), he would have been on par with Pennachio :) i simply did not understand the purpose of making sounds like that - Pennachio NEVER did like this with his punches/kicks. What did Hergault think - if he makes punch sounds like in a Bruce Lee movie, he would be Bruce Lee? :))))
@jaymoh4216
@jaymoh4216 6 жыл бұрын
grarghov1 The purpose of that is for breathing during striking. Just like if you were to lift weights, you breath outward at maximum strain Ex: bench press, breath out when pushing bar upward. This guy clearly isnt the best, by far. If youd like to see a better representation of Muay Thai. Research Buakaw and Saenchai. They are very adept athletes and fighters. Maybe if you do a little more research you'll see why this "haymaker kick" exists. But as youll notice, thats not the only kick you'll see them throw.
@DENEB609
@DENEB609 4 жыл бұрын
Penacchio: le chassé-figure jambe avant, au premier round : absolument magnifique !!! (Et le fauchage du deuxieme round n'est pas mal non pus !)
@andresvalentin6924
@andresvalentin6924 2 жыл бұрын
Combining Muay Thai and Savate would be one deadly combination. Dynamic long range attacks and fluid footwork with devastating close quarters striking.
@zzaronn
@zzaronn 2 жыл бұрын
that's what MMA figther should learn, i'm surprised it's still not a thing
@chrisadrien8179
@chrisadrien8179 5 жыл бұрын
Pennachio beat Ramon 'Diamond' Dekkers! The original Dutch guy that beat the Thais on their own turf and rules. I'm considering Erik Paulson's STX (savate X thai boxing), can't hurt to learn a few hybrid combinatons
@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96
@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Adrien This
@brewbeer5569
@brewbeer5569 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that Pennachio beat Ramon Dekkers. Dekkers has had a lot of success in Muay Thai.
@memysurname7521
@memysurname7521 5 ай бұрын
I think Dekkers lost more than he won against Thai fighters. 14 wins 22 losses. But yeah, at least he have won against Thai fighters.
@resonanceoffate86
@resonanceoffate86 6 жыл бұрын
In Savate you train to take kicks to the legs , instead to defend against them. You lean with you leg in an enemy kick, to take away his speed and room for get hard. That alone makes fighters to really, really strong tanks. Thats why the savate fighter could counter the kickboxers kick like a cheesecake
@markgraham4732
@markgraham4732 4 жыл бұрын
The Savateur....mobile heavy artillery. Very effective!
@evanfiend
@evanfiend 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed! 6"2 215 pounds, but still fast!
@simonscardino6597
@simonscardino6597 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it..!! That's a muay thay fighter, its an incredible fight.
@lionelabadie4039
@lionelabadie4039 5 жыл бұрын
Le revers figure de penachio est juste extraordinaire
@ChuckPalomo
@ChuckPalomo 4 жыл бұрын
Nice axe kicks, you don't see those often. Props to Hergault for using the classic Rocky strategy of blocking strikes with his face.
@luanwonka9689
@luanwonka9689 6 жыл бұрын
Savate ❤
@frogzie
@frogzie 10 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thank you for sharing
@raynavarrette5025
@raynavarrette5025 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a top Savate fighter fight a top Muay Thai from Lumpini.
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 7 жыл бұрын
Dekkers vs Pennachio?
@17Hiyayi
@17Hiyayi 7 жыл бұрын
Madani/ Pennachio vs. Pakorn/Iquezang
@DivineMoment
@DivineMoment 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know who are some modern day masters of savate I could check on youtube? I just want to see more of similiar kind of talent.. This Pennachio guy seems to be very talented in various different areas of combat movement.. we have to remember it's not just the effectiveness of particular style/martial art, but the people using or representing the style..
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 6 жыл бұрын
Actually David Hergault was a respectable fighter enough to had fight at Lumpini 15 times back in the days. He has actually a record of 65 fights and 49 wins in Muay Thai.
@paullytle246
@paullytle246 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Navarrette the dancing style of savate wouldn't be scored well thai judges love when you back someone up
@alasdairmackintosh
@alasdairmackintosh 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know a lot about savate but is the reason the kicks can come at you so deceptively and fast because of how the kicks are chambered? Can someone who is a savate practitioner answer what aspects savate focuses on compared to Muay Thai
@coffeewashere7745
@coffeewashere7745 Жыл бұрын
Savate is heavily underrated fr
@mrkaiju3292
@mrkaiju3292 4 жыл бұрын
2 Magnifiques combattants!
@Drakar.2012
@Drakar.2012 5 жыл бұрын
Это было потрясающе!
@jean4j_
@jean4j_ 4 жыл бұрын
Is it allowed to clinch and knee under kickboxing rules?
@Palindrome3945
@Palindrome3945 6 жыл бұрын
I liked the resilence against the knee strikes
@marcosmoura1351
@marcosmoura1351 10 ай бұрын
Sou do Muay Thai mas acho que esse juiz salvou de mais o cara do Muay Thai, não ?
@tomih5384
@tomih5384 3 жыл бұрын
Damn! Savate is very good! No wonder Bruce Lee studied this art.
@Akasakadan2356
@Akasakadan2356 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce lee studied savate?
@ya_hmar0
@ya_hmar0 7 жыл бұрын
savate combo made the difference.
@flowrepins6663
@flowrepins6663 5 жыл бұрын
Western striking arts like kickboxing and savate have advantage to traditional Muay Thai due to English boxing mixed. Superior hands is a big thing..
@warrennicholsony.fernando4513
@warrennicholsony.fernando4513 4 жыл бұрын
From what I have observed, savate fighters have a good sense of distancing which is why they have pinpoint accuracy in their kicks.
@tappuzzo05
@tappuzzo05 7 жыл бұрын
Props to the killer Savate fighter! I annoyed his footwork and setups! 👍🏽 As a Muay Thai fighter myself, I know this guy is not an elite Thai boxer. He doesn't know how to clinch properly, his leg kick technique specifically is complete shit. On top of that, his defense is atrocious..
@alexandremasset3511
@alexandremasset3511 6 жыл бұрын
très beau match, dommage que la savate est moins mise en avant, surtout avec la lutte parisienne
@HotchiwawaChronicles
@HotchiwawaChronicles 6 жыл бұрын
Really good fight.
@ohanawarrior456
@ohanawarrior456 6 жыл бұрын
What event was this?
@WhiteWolf-ui9wg
@WhiteWolf-ui9wg 6 жыл бұрын
Great savateur Pennachio !
@TOREIKAN
@TOREIKAN 9 жыл бұрын
Joli combat.
@peterpalffy9302
@peterpalffy9302 7 жыл бұрын
I am learning Savate and Krav Maga and my instructor told me to watch this video. Now I know why... :)
@dibidibadibidibou
@dibidibadibidibou 6 жыл бұрын
Very good combination. But you should try Savate défense, which is kind of French Krav Maga. It includes everything from Savate + Self defense/Close Combat/ground work
@olivierpataut7015
@olivierpataut7015 4 жыл бұрын
@@tony_5156 since when we are stealing we have french jews Btw. Anyways you can learn Stuff without stealing anything
@intermaths1128
@intermaths1128 3 жыл бұрын
Krav maga sucks but savate is ok
@anthonyprice6772
@anthonyprice6772 4 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 real fight 1:21 🥊 👇❤
@user-ue6nm3my5c
@user-ue6nm3my5c 2 жыл бұрын
Боец савата великолепен!
@Melpheos1er
@Melpheos1er 6 жыл бұрын
That was a great fight
@muER76
@muER76 7 жыл бұрын
Is not it great when the winner is announced and the camera is outside of the stadium?
@jean-pierremoreau395
@jean-pierremoreau395 8 жыл бұрын
French boxing is the best boxing to begin to fight fist and feet...
@arthurthielin7200
@arthurthielin7200 Жыл бұрын
Très beau combat.
@thomasda3482
@thomasda3482 3 жыл бұрын
nice fight ... Saware ..is not often to seen .. But very effective....early of founding of Jkd was based very skills of this martial art
@YOUENNNN
@YOUENNNN 8 ай бұрын
Savatte fighters start to think about getting into MMA after legalization of the sport in France, so we'll probably get to see some guys with savatte background in UFC in a few years, actually if guys like Gane or Dumbe are so good in striking it's also because of this french boxing history, tons of french striking coach have savatte background or have fought or learn savatte at one stage of their life. It was a university sport also
@calvinmondrago7397
@calvinmondrago7397 Жыл бұрын
Savate is a system of fighting with hard soled shoes, with shoes these body kicks would have broken ribs and split the liver.
@weelee7121
@weelee7121 5 жыл бұрын
Tres beau combat
@unclemax8797
@unclemax8797 6 жыл бұрын
nice fight i'm a little bit surprised though the french boxer didn't used tricks such as sweeping the thay boxer, especially when he was stuck in the ropes and tried to hit him with the knees
@FabianoCigano
@FabianoCigano 2 жыл бұрын
A few people know, the, VEGA´S STYLE OF COMBAT in STREET FIGHTER GAMES IS "SAVATE", easy to see in the STREET FIGHTER, THE ANIMATION MOVIE IN THE 90´s, a lot "joints" kicks, and similar kicks
@Valkner11
@Valkner11 9 жыл бұрын
Wow
@disruptor109
@disruptor109 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody was catchin' those hands!
@ali09gaming58
@ali09gaming58 3 жыл бұрын
Savate is like ballet and kick boxing. It uses deception of kicks and combinations. Very versatile while muay thai is very linear.
@absolute757
@absolute757 4 жыл бұрын
Gr8 upload
@jjtmmjjmm2113
@jjtmmjjmm2113 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I don’t approve of in Muay Thai is how flat footed most Thai fighters are compared to kick boxers and other striking styles. When I think of a dangerous striker I think of someone who is absolutely fluid and can effectively strike and avoid being struck
@rafaelpereira573
@rafaelpereira573 Жыл бұрын
ThaiBoxers are more hitters Kickboxers are fluid and light due to the greater influence of western boxing.
@jjtmmjjmm2113
@jjtmmjjmm2113 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelpereira573 yeah your right about that. I have to hand it to the Thai boxers they seem to make their strikes count much more then western kick boxing.
@ezequieltorre9185
@ezequieltorre9185 5 жыл бұрын
Muy buena pelea
@menace2society826
@menace2society826 Жыл бұрын
Pour avoir rencontrer François Pennacchio je peu dire que c'est un vrai champion
@Jaguar1910
@Jaguar1910 4 жыл бұрын
La BF est vraiment le plus bel art martial
@stevenator0281
@stevenator0281 5 жыл бұрын
The ref was doing his best for any reason to stop this fight. Hergault, though game, was just outclassed.
@mexicovillage
@mexicovillage 4 жыл бұрын
i adore savate ....intelligence...mobility agaisnt brutality of muay thai
@bighug6502
@bighug6502 5 жыл бұрын
tres bon combat, tres dynamique.
@HumanRights4Everyone
@HumanRights4Everyone 7 жыл бұрын
Why does the Muay Thai guy have a tennis racket on his head?
@billmcyrus
@billmcyrus 4 жыл бұрын
He probably felt like a tennis ball after a match at Wimbledon.
@newtuber9535
@newtuber9535 7 жыл бұрын
All I have to say is "it was a good match."
@michelolivera9242
@michelolivera9242 6 жыл бұрын
son buenos los savateurs!!
@marko6368
@marko6368 3 жыл бұрын
Savate fighters are very technical and have good movement and fast and sharp kicks
@arthurrodarte8624
@arthurrodarte8624 Жыл бұрын
That axe kick was beautiful. Announcers said side kick I believe it was a axe kick
@boscopit
@boscopit 7 жыл бұрын
damn that kick to face. Fucking hell
@hennoxxx
@hennoxxx 9 жыл бұрын
Why aren´t there more savateurs in K1? Its´s a shame, their style is good and effective and it would be a win for any K1 event.
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 9 жыл бұрын
Small talent pool. Heck, even in France there is more muay thai fighters than savate fighters...
@VictorNoelCoryPaz
@VictorNoelCoryPaz 9 жыл бұрын
***** high
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 9 жыл бұрын
Victor Noel Cory Paz I mean small talent pool because there is very few practitioners around the world. Less practitioners = small talent pool = less fighters in others fighting events...
@IgnatiusCheese
@IgnatiusCheese 9 жыл бұрын
It's like catch wrestling in the grappling world, I could count the gyms in the United States on one hand.
@zarroncello1
@zarroncello1 8 жыл бұрын
+hennoxxx, they're not too far to the truth... savate is a splendid sport combat but many years of films about kick and thay (van damme, chuck norris and so on...) drag away young guys from this discipline, even in france. it's not true that there aren't good talent, couse more talents begin with savate but turned into kick (more battles available...). in italy we have champions like angelo valente that begun with savate. but no one knows it. i begun with savate by case, 'cause i wanted to do kick but the instructor near home was a savate practicer. it was about '92, full van damme period. but, in the end i feel lucky to begin this art. although if i learned also its boxing form and not its other related disciplines, such as "canne" and "baton".
@kingdomsteve
@kingdomsteve 6 жыл бұрын
good fight
@zoeaionios
@zoeaionios 8 жыл бұрын
For once I'd like to see a match between an elite savateur and an elite practitioner of Muay Thai. Clearly you can see that Pennacchio has a much higher degree of expertise and dominance of Savate than Hergault has of Muay Thai and if not, it seems Hergault was very off his game. It would be amazing to see a proper Thai fighter from Thailand mix it up. The level of speed dexterity and tenacity of the Thai fighters would look great against the flair and agility of the Savateurs. Just my humble opinion.
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 8 жыл бұрын
Look for François Pennachio vs Ramon Dekkers.
@akumasan707
@akumasan707 8 жыл бұрын
+zoeaionios Yep, you can see exactly what you hope to see in Pennachio vs Dekkers. Two icons in their sports battling it out. Although I practice Muay Thai, and think Ramon Dekkers is one of the greatest ever, I have to admit, that Pennachio outclassed him. However, they fought under kickboxing rules, not Muay Thai rules, so Dekkers had his hands tied so to speak. If you watch Samart Payakaroon vs Murat Comert, which was fought under Muay Thai rules, you'll see Comert not do so well.
@sarrumac
@sarrumac 7 жыл бұрын
akumasan707 a number of savate kicks are forbidden too.
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