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16 жыл бұрын

World savate champion Francois Pennacchio against World Muay Thai champion Ramon Dekker in kickboxing rules.
Il campione del mondo di savate Francois Pennacchio contro il campione del mondo di Muay Thai Ramon Dekker in un match di kickboxing.

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@pugilistica
@pugilistica 15 жыл бұрын
The shoe/boot plays an important part in Savate, and those boots provide a formidable weapon when delivered accurately to specific targets. You can't compare different arts when the rules are different. Both these fighters had certain tools taken away from them. In Dekker's case, the knees and elbows. In Pennacchio's case, his boots.
@stormbringer2840
@stormbringer2840 4 жыл бұрын
The low side kicks too . It's quite a potent weapon for savate .
@Limemill
@Limemill 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not the full fight, though. If you watch all 9 rounds, the savateur did outscore Dekker by a decent margin and even did some solid damage to his face despite the lack of the boots
@Roro-qi9nz
@Roro-qi9nz Жыл бұрын
Dekkers is not a Nak Muay hes Kickboxing's trained adapted to Muay Thai so knees and elbows wasnt his strenght .
@bruceparker6142
@bruceparker6142 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen savate fights stopped due to kicks? Maybe Thai and Dut h kickboxing are superior.
@Roro-qi9nz
@Roro-qi9nz Жыл бұрын
@@bruceparker6142 of course my friend .. its called hors combat (ko) and thoses chambered kicks (especially with the savate boots) are snappy , precise and quite powerful.
@Sheik06
@Sheik06 16 жыл бұрын
Agree, I prefer Savate too but I also admire Muay Thai, meaning that I would never make Muay Thai less, but simply it all depends of the fighter. As for what balonck said, make a good search there actually are a few videos of Savate vs Muay thai under muay thai rules where Savate wins. What MichoDelija wanted to mean is that Savate is not just another Mc-Dojo that ALWAYS lost against styles like Muay thai EVEN UNDER THE RULES OF THE OTHER STYLE (type "TKD vs muay thai" on youtube).
@fivel014
@fivel014 16 жыл бұрын
SAVATE, The Best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@hb9145
@hb9145 9 ай бұрын
Try fighting under Muay Thai rules.
@nicolasgrepolis7230
@nicolasgrepolis7230 5 жыл бұрын
That video's quality takes me back to when I was young. Sad to say I'm 70.
@jorgepablolopezmola4684
@jorgepablolopezmola4684 4 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Grepolis What a good life champ. I really would like to see the world in my 70’s
@joshuapasi6376
@joshuapasi6376 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t be sad my friend! You’ve lived a long life and I’m sure you have plenty of wisdom to pass on to someone who is willing to listen.
@yongjiean9980
@yongjiean9980 4 жыл бұрын
You are still young. A gentleman 68 years old joined us at our kickboxing session
@eugeniuspirantel1086
@eugeniuspirantel1086 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! You saw the 1960th and 1970th! I was born after that cool epoche and I feel sad about it because it's possible to watch those times in movies only. Every age has it's + and -.
@ryneagheilim9782
@ryneagheilim9782 Жыл бұрын
Didnt know Dekkers competed in Savate. Such a legend!! RIP
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz Жыл бұрын
this is mixed rules, but lots of the Dutch kick boxers competed in formal Savate/BF matches (tights and shoes) Ernesto Hoost was European Savate/BF champion in the late 80s/early 90s
@terrytibbs1040
@terrytibbs1040 7 жыл бұрын
pennachio is not standing and exchanging like a Thai boxer he is hitting and constantly moving and dekkers doesn't know how to handle it he looks slow and predictable here but pennachio is great at what he does hitting and not getting hit.
@frenchphilosopher302
@frenchphilosopher302 7 жыл бұрын
nunya business Dekkers just had surgery on his right ankle dude...he is not kicking with right, and unable to push of with hos right leg...warrior
@gwentom1000
@gwentom1000 4 жыл бұрын
Stop bullshitting about Dekkers injuries: each time a french dude kicks his ass, it is because Dekkers was not 100%... No I disagree... Pennachio was smart and he was a super world champion of Savate.
@patek92
@patek92 4 жыл бұрын
@@gwentom1000 yes, so injures means nothing
@yongjiean9980
@yongjiean9980 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! In Human weapon, the coach told the host to remember four things - always look at your opponent in the eyes, always guard up, always move, never change your stance. True indeed.
@pugilistica
@pugilistica Жыл бұрын
@@yongjiean9980 : That was Frenchman, Gilles le Duigou, who famously fought a contest against a Japanese Kickboxer, and had both his arms broken by the shin of the Japanese fighter in the first round. GLD still went on to win the fight in the 8th round. You can find the fight on KZfaq.
@pugilistica
@pugilistica 13 жыл бұрын
The Bull and the Matador!
@jasonhood2714
@jasonhood2714 Жыл бұрын
Two legends... thanks for sharing it
@pugilistica
@pugilistica 16 жыл бұрын
It's a Savate fighter (Pennacchio), without his boots on, fighting a Muay Thai fighter (Ramon Dekker) without his elbows and knees, in a contest fought under kickboxing rules I think you'll find. Compare the footwork to see the Savateur. Pugil
@dcram76
@dcram76 Жыл бұрын
You know what though, and go ahead and dress me down for this if you like, but it seems like savate is an outside fighter style where if an opponent gets inside then the outside fighter is screwed. In that case, knees and elbows would be of no use to a Muay Thai fighter. On a side note, I think both styles mixed together would be a DANGEROUS cocktail.
@joshuac717
@joshuac717 Жыл бұрын
Also no dumps are allowed so Deckers lost that too
@renehinojosa1962
@renehinojosa1962 7 жыл бұрын
Savate is about striking and moving after the striking. Also, the use of fakes in Savate is at a much higher level than most other striking arts. One becomes very good at "selling" the fakes, just look at how Dekkers falls for one at 8:10 mark. He falls for fakes time and again.
@Limemill
@Limemill 2 жыл бұрын
Savate gave rise to the original Soviet boxing school, so you can still see similarities in post-Soviet fighters like Usyk and Lomachenko who use a lot of movement, feints and counterpunching
@MsBetke
@MsBetke 7 жыл бұрын
very nice technique from Pennacchio ....not taking anything away from dekker ... good fight
@BREZ760
@BREZ760 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone here because of Joe Rohan
@Nabil-gj2qq
@Nabil-gj2qq 7 жыл бұрын
BREZ760 yes just watched joe rogan now who mentioned pinokio
@Gusto821
@Gusto821 7 жыл бұрын
BREZ760 yes
@booboognu
@booboognu 7 жыл бұрын
I am here because the king of Rohan.
@BREZ760
@BREZ760 7 жыл бұрын
Warrior hahahahhaa
@spiritofgivings
@spiritofgivings 7 жыл бұрын
Same here...I was watching Rogan and they mentioned this fight. "Savate" style. Sounds interesting.
@pugilistica
@pugilistica 15 жыл бұрын
Actually, the instep is not what is used. The French wrap their feet, as Boxers wrap their hands, so that the ankle & foot are at a 90 degree angle. The toe of the boot can then be aimed at specific targets with pin-point accuracy. The coup de pied bas uses the arch of the boot, either to strike the ankle and shins, or to sweep with. The chasse is delivered with the heel of the boot, in a stomping to the front or to the side action - like kicking open a door, or breaking wood for kindling...
@RAWER75
@RAWER75 13 жыл бұрын
Savate is the best!
@zarroncello1
@zarroncello1 6 жыл бұрын
Se ci penso che dovevo esserci al palalido e non ci potei andare all'ultimo minuto... Ho perso un incontro epico. Comunque, savate sempre nel cuore. Mi pare di ricordare la data... 23 novembre 1993.
@Not2Be0utDone
@Not2Be0utDone 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I’m glad this exists
@VforVendetta0626
@VforVendetta0626 15 жыл бұрын
No style is better. It is down to training and the person practicing the art. Both styles have somthing to offer. Thai boxing is very powerful and savate is very mobile and fast. Combining them makes for the best of both worlds. By the way, Ramon Dekkers is not slouch in the ring so kudos to the french fighter.
@eugeniuspirantel1086
@eugeniuspirantel1086 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful fight!
@rpsboxe
@rpsboxe 13 жыл бұрын
C'est vraiment la représentation de la force brute contre la technique car celui qui reste debout et gagne contre Dekkers a forcements des atouts. Ici Pennachio se désaxe en permanence et amorti la puissance des middles de Dekkers , il travaille de plus en riposte explosive de 2/4 coups et dexaxe de nouveau juste après . Résultat Dekkers n'arrive pas à cadrer et décroche . Avec 4 balayages typiques Savate il finit de lui casser le moral et gagne logiquement.
@denzelwash5084
@denzelwash5084 5 жыл бұрын
Oui forcément puisque 1 moi avant dekker avais un combat important en Thaïlande donc sa.lui laisser pck plus de chance .mais crois moi quonpasse pas sinon!
@joyboy8289
@joyboy8289 5 жыл бұрын
2 astronauti dello sport da combattimento. Che atleti tosti e duri come la pietra. Mi dispiace ma nei campioni di una volta vedo molta più determinazione con una sopportazione del dolore e sacrificio molto più intensa degli atleti di oggi! Cmq i miei complimenti a di Blasi sempre presente sin dagli anni 80 nelle telecronache degli sport da combattimento 👋👋👋👋👋
@qhibli8015
@qhibli8015 6 жыл бұрын
Grande Pennacchio!!!
@WhiteWolf-ui9wg
@WhiteWolf-ui9wg 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome Pennachio...
@andreatrivellin2840
@andreatrivellin2840 6 ай бұрын
Presente alla serata..che ricordi 😢😊.
@francoismoreira1583
@francoismoreira1583 5 ай бұрын
Excellent combat,peut importe le gagnant 💪🏻🙏🥊
@ActionHero29
@ActionHero29 7 жыл бұрын
Wow vraiment intéréssant.
@pugilistica
@pugilistica 12 жыл бұрын
@rianftw And you could also argue that Pennacchio would've done the same to Dekkers if he had been allowed to wear his Savate boots instead of those American Kickboxing pillows on his feet! As it was, Dekkers was limited in his variety of technique. He threw the same round kick over and over again. All he could focus on was power. He ran out of ideas the first time his arse hit the canvas!
@stespark
@stespark 7 жыл бұрын
Hes fighting southpaw which is after when he broke his right leg like a hundred times and got his ankle fused to his shin bone, he wasn't really the same after that
@Not2Be0utDone
@Not2Be0utDone 6 жыл бұрын
bob yenan excuses
@user-je4um6tl6w
@user-je4um6tl6w 2 жыл бұрын
Ramon the Best, Legend!
@pugilistica
@pugilistica 12 жыл бұрын
@shunglee No Savate boots either! What's your point!
@JimmyRomantic
@JimmyRomantic 12 жыл бұрын
Dekkers! Not Dekker!!!
@Nostromo-Br
@Nostromo-Br 7 жыл бұрын
pennacchio is like kickboxing Einstein ,cant let nothing open that he comes in
@MishoDelija
@MishoDelija 16 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse K1, you can se savate fighters there (mostly former fighters) like jerome LeBanner, Ernesto Hoost, Mirko Cro Cop...and some others. Don't forget that THE BEST K1 fighter Ernesto Hoost used to be European savate champion. So balonck, you have a prove here ;)
@yongjiean9980
@yongjiean9980 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the infor. I did not know they fought in Savate too. They are more of Dutch kickboxing. And Mr Ivan Hippolyte too
@chaiesq
@chaiesq 12 жыл бұрын
@rianftw I agree with you , not more than 2 rounds.
@taumagalahi
@taumagalahi 16 жыл бұрын
savate kicks are faster and more deceptive, the thai kicks are much more naturally powerful look how pennachio's body would be lifted literally everytime dekkers kicked him.
@Limemill
@Limemill 2 жыл бұрын
Savate kicks are also more precise because that’s the whole point behind their boots: hitting the liver in a hard boot is a knock out kick
@Yoshiko15
@Yoshiko15 15 жыл бұрын
PENNACCHIO isnt stupid, good fight
@Pola86
@Pola86 14 жыл бұрын
Dekker proviene dalla kick boxe quindi chi dice "fa muay thai dev'essere difficile stare alle regole kick" sbaglia. Questo è uno dei match più belli che siano mai stati fatti e tutti voi keyboard warriors non avete neanche idea del lavoro che ha fatto Pennacchio entrando/uscendo per 12 round..
@balonck
@balonck 16 жыл бұрын
I see savate, muay thai, kickboxing in hoost profile. dont know where you got the info for lebanner and crocop, and if you watch them, are there any savate elements included in their techinque?... what I wanted to say was that you cant say one martial art is better than another just from one fight which would have been won with muay thai rules (btw blocking legs with the arms.. thats not a block in muay thai, its a point, pennachio received few tons of force more than dekker)
@davisking100
@davisking100 7 жыл бұрын
seanchai or lerdsila's style matches up better. They fight at a more up tempo boxing stlye. This was a great fight though. Not sure if this was post leg injury dekkers but the right fighter won the match. Rip diamond he is one GOATS for sure.
@LFC303606ACID
@LFC303606ACID 7 жыл бұрын
This takes me back..........to 1979
@qwertyhnb6825
@qwertyhnb6825 6 жыл бұрын
How penachio win?
@ariari4133
@ariari4133 6 жыл бұрын
Swing that lowe kick, bee aware of the lowe kicks they put you down, if placed right
@Charlitos1988
@Charlitos1988 13 жыл бұрын
@pablo67061 y tambien mucho mejor hubiera sido que Penacchio use sus zapatos de punta reforzada del Savate y q le permitan golpear con estos a cualquier altura con lo q Dekkers hubiera sido noqueado por una patada con la punta del zapato en el higado o en la sien.
@HotchiwawaChronicles
@HotchiwawaChronicles 6 жыл бұрын
Cherchant une autre vidéo de Pennachio (savate), je vois qu'il a combattu Dekker :D
@denzelwash5084
@denzelwash5084 5 жыл бұрын
Pas.meriter du tt
@pascalclaudet8382
@pascalclaudet8382 8 жыл бұрын
La superbe technique de Pennacchio n'explique pas tout, Dekkers n'accélère jamais avec ses poings dans ce combat...Même face à un combattant aussi mobile sa rapidité d'enchainement aurait du lui permettre de marquer beaucoup plus de points. Blessure???
@franckmartini5746
@franckmartini5746 7 жыл бұрын
Il n'avait jamais boxé un mec aussi mobile qui feinte et qui enchaine. Il a pris une leçon de boxe....point.
@b.7353
@b.7353 7 жыл бұрын
Pascal claudet ta vu la vitesse de François dr plus il a de bon reflexe dekkers ne peut pas se permettre de lancer des assaut comme ça il c'est manger plein dr contre en plus
@frenchphilosopher302
@frenchphilosopher302 7 жыл бұрын
Pascal claudet ca me parait evident que dekkers est blesser a sa jambe droite.. de tout evidence il ne kick pas avec il boxe en gaucher parce que sa cheville etais fliguer et donc il na pas dimpulsion dynamique avec cette jambe....
@franckmartini5746
@franckmartini5746 7 жыл бұрын
Il n'a jamais eu d'impulsion sur ses jambes Ramon, il marche toujours, que dis-tu? Et Pennachio avait une gastro ce jour là de toutes évidence, il ne le met pas KO parce qu'il préfère ne pas forcer pour éviter d'avoir des problèmes... Quand tu montes sur un ring tu n'a aucune excuse à invoquer si ça ne se passe pas bien, sinon tu ne montes pas. Un rouste est une rouste ;)
@nickniehaus1763
@nickniehaus1763 7 жыл бұрын
Pascal claudet just because he was slower doesn't mean he should lose. He should be well rounded enough to fight anyone. Oui, Je parle fraçais. Un petite peux.
@PasqualeRasoli85
@PasqualeRasoli85 16 жыл бұрын
inutili scuse, se pennacchio avesse combattuto di thai avrebbe perso, beh logico se dekker avesse combattuto di savate avrebbe straperso lui, ma che paragoni sono? hanno fatto il confronto dekker ha perso, basta inutile dire dekker era infortunato ecc..sono solo scuse...si vede che pennacchio era piu bravo stavolta...
@kelamuni
@kelamuni 5 жыл бұрын
read somewhere that Pennachio developed the 'evasive' style to counter precisely this kind of Muay Thai/Dutch kickboxing.
@jormungand1224
@jormungand1224 5 жыл бұрын
Pennachio is fighter from savate , that's why he is more evasive than dekker
@kelamuni
@kelamuni 5 жыл бұрын
that does not answer it. just being savate is not enough. he developed a style to fight this way.
@kelamuni
@kelamuni 5 жыл бұрын
or perhaps i am saying, there is something within the savate style that allows itself to address such challenges, when a master is at work.
@kelamuni
@kelamuni 5 жыл бұрын
personally, i think savate is a style that allows this, and not some ossifided style. i admire savate for this.
@yossefgabay5633
@yossefgabay5633 5 жыл бұрын
Dekkers is a pure dutch kickboxer who adapted his style against thai fighters . But muay Thai is full of tricks and can counter evasives fighters such as pennachio and others (savate, japanese style of Kickboxing, american kickboxing ) dekkers is clearly not a Muay Thaï Guy first he bas been succesful in muay thaï but ont a nak muay
@MishoDelija
@MishoDelija 16 жыл бұрын
SAVATE is way in front of all the other martial arts and contact sports! SALUT :)
@neilhill6786
@neilhill6786 7 жыл бұрын
Run JRE
@Charlitos1988
@Charlitos1988 15 жыл бұрын
si puede pq tiene botas y patadas precisas q hacen golpes de profundidad, ademas su boxeo, es decir su juego de manos, es mejor q el del thai. luego tienen mas resistencia y son escurridizos. una pelea de savate actual seria algo asi como ver pelear a lyoto machida en el UFC. ademas por algo perdio dekker ps ... aunq sea por puntos pero perdio. igual hace lyoto, gana por puntos por algo son deportes el thai, savate, mma y no peleas callejeras.
@ariari4133
@ariari4133 5 жыл бұрын
Wat is dat nou voor flauwekul mee die schoentjes ?????????
@dcram76
@dcram76 Жыл бұрын
In all honesty, if you mix Muay Thai with Savate you would have a dangerous cocktail.
@stormbringer2840
@stormbringer2840 Жыл бұрын
Mobility and speed + power and precision …yeah I don’t think there is a standing martial art or combat sport who would compare .
@bert666666
@bert666666 14 жыл бұрын
In the first round, Dekker gave just one kick, always the same, and with no results...he carried on in the second round, and so we have the 1:40 and 1:56defense from Pennachio. Dekker tried something else in the 3rd, and you have the 3:22 result...Dekker did better elsewhere, but in this fight, he was way out of tune!
@hotpopcorncake
@hotpopcorncake 15 жыл бұрын
but both style didn't went full potential
@furmine88
@furmine88 15 жыл бұрын
l'incontro è del 96' ha 27 anni
@Pola86
@Pola86 14 жыл бұрын
per te è il numero uno per gli altri no, questo non vuol dire che Dekkers sia anni luce avanti a Pennacchio.. entrambi son dei campioni nelle loro discipline e in quesgto match Pennacchio ha dimostrato un elevata versatilità e intelligenza mentre Dekker ha continuato a fare sempre la stessa cosa
@castevezebra
@castevezebra 15 жыл бұрын
Dekker è un guardia normale,quando combatte in guardia destra vuol dire che è infortunato.non è stata l'unica volta che l'ha fatto
@furmine88
@furmine88 14 жыл бұрын
no ti sbagli,io ho visto molti mach di dekkers e per me è il numero uno,non conosco battista,ma ho viso pennacchio altre volte pennacchio,non è male,ma nn è un campione,ricordo il suo match contro johomod contro il qualeha perso e si è ritirato dalle competizioni..
@furmine88
@furmine88 14 жыл бұрын
in realta nn sono scarponi pensi parapiedi e in alcune federazioni sono regolamentari...cmq si..sul resto siamo d'accordo!
@balonck
@balonck 16 жыл бұрын
well, he has to win with his own rules eh? no knees no elbows, no clinch, with shoes? XD pennachio is a great fighter, I agree but as the comentator said there: "dekker probably accepted too many fights and he's worn out" anyway, would like to see same fight with fair rules (at least they allowed to kick with the shin). saying that savate is in front of all martial arts is a joke, there is a tournament testing various martial arts, its called k-1, prove it there.
@albertoamodeo8868
@albertoamodeo8868 8 жыл бұрын
Lol, Muay Thai come out as slow stiff shit, Dekkers feels like he was stuck on the mud almost, he was bullied by a too much fluid and mobile opponent. I think French Savate is underrated as fuck
@mstrm3922
@mstrm3922 7 жыл бұрын
Savate is extremely deadly. I practiced jkd and savate for ten years. Used my fighting skills as self defense twice, and both effectively defended me from serious harm.
@Nostromo-Br
@Nostromo-Br 7 жыл бұрын
Ramon dekkers in fact don't fight may Thai )he a Dutch kickboxing ,that beyond may Thai have a strong kyokushin and boxing base ,in fact if was traditional may Thai the result will be even worst for the Mt fighter, and Ramon dekkers clearely underestimate pennacchio by the way he only use right roundhouse kick to short space for boxing
@Nostromo-Br
@Nostromo-Br 7 жыл бұрын
who are idiot ? i just say that most people think that ramon dekkers is a muay thai fighter but he is a dutch kickboxer, course have a lot of muay thai but have other stuff too like karate ,boxing ,savate and even tkwd, dekkers dont use much savate in his kickboxing but gilbert ballantine and ernesto hoost do
@Nostromo-Br
@Nostromo-Br 7 жыл бұрын
pennacchio in the end of hes career fought morad sari that is great mt fighter in mt rules ,and although morad was heavier than pennacchio the fight ended up tied,but pennacchio almost won
@frenchphilosopher302
@frenchphilosopher302 7 жыл бұрын
CM Punk Devotee listen my friend, I just saw this fight for the very first time, great fight, but let me research if dekkers already had his infection and his multiple surgeries on his right leg of not. doesnt any body see that Ramon doesnt use his right leg to kick, he is fighting as a south paw, unable to generate power or any real trust with his right leg, you even see it when he throws the roght hand, its all body and arm, no leg, no power from the ground. I suspect this was not Ramon Dekkers in good shape unfortunatly. but great foght for the Italian french man...
@furmine88
@furmine88 14 жыл бұрын
si si su questo so d'accordo co te pennacchio è stato in quest occasione migliore... anke se c'è da dire ke dekkers usciva dall icontro co johmod infortunato,in oltre lui(perke cmq dekkers è pazzo!!) nn ha mai rifiutato un incontro..e combattere co tutti gli infortuni non riesci a gestire un incontro bene..cmq io penso ke un atleta va giudicato nell intera carriera e non sul incontro singolo..pennacchio ha avuto gli stessi risultati?anke se ti ripeto ke pennacchio è stato migliore!
@fivel014
@fivel014 16 жыл бұрын
Savate is better than Muay Thai!!! Always!!!
@steoboylo5395
@steoboylo5395 4 жыл бұрын
*** Anybody who is saying Dekkers got schooled, notice he fought the whole fight in Southpaw!!! This was later in his career after multiple surgeries on his right leg. Not taking anything away from his opponent he is a tough kick boxer but this is not the old Dekker.
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz 11 ай бұрын
Then don't take fights if you cant perform. Getting schooled is getting schooled and I think Dekkers would have been the last one to make excuses.
@steoboylo5395
@steoboylo5395 11 ай бұрын
@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz people are making out Dekkers got his ass whooped without considering the milage he has on body. Keyboard warriors again showing no respect
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz 11 ай бұрын
​@@steoboylo5395 One thing has nothing much to do with the other. getting your ass whooped is getting your ass whooped (ie, getting kicked in the face does not hurt any less because you have lots of mileage on you. getting more brain damage is not doing you any good because you have mileage on you.). Fighting was Dekkers Job, if you cant do that job, then don't take the work....oh but I want the money...then you are going to take the criticism as well for doing your job like shit.-pretty simple. As for 'keyboard warriors' who the hell do you think was paying Dekkers?? the fans-thatys who..., so he was fighting for the fans, and he did not do his job very well-so they have every right to complain. As for disrespect...the only disrespect is to Panaccio, who clearly and unequivocally kicked Dekkers ass, humbled him, beat him like a drum..etc, etc...to bad for his 'mileage' but that day, that fight Pannacio was the man. so stop crying.
@iLuvHardStyle
@iLuvHardStyle 14 жыл бұрын
dekkers looks weird in this fight...too predictable, doing the same thing all the time..
@Lemuzaurio_streams
@Lemuzaurio_streams 16 жыл бұрын
its the fighter not the style mr dekkers it´s trully a great muay fighter but if we think about wich style its the best its imposible because the powerfull muay kicks are better however the punch of the savate its far too better hower une thing its true both styles are better than taekwondo karate and many other asian styles kickboxers fighters are trully better than ortodoxl martial artist
@MishoDelija
@MishoDelija 16 жыл бұрын
Because I know Mirko in personal ;) and about Jerome I don't really know,but ppl say for him he started with savate.Well I'll correct myself,savate maybe isn't THE BEST martial art,but savate and muay thai are way in front of all other martial arts like taekwondo,classic kickboxing and other punching contact sports.Savate and muay thai are quite similar,noticable diff is in movement and precision. My opinion for savate-SPEED,PRECISION and for muay thai-STRENGHT,POWER.
@ariari4133
@ariari4133 6 жыл бұрын
In Ramon adge i was 183 cm 67 kg technisch good never stood in the ring!
@Pola86
@Pola86 14 жыл бұрын
tu conosci dekker in base alle 3 righe che scrivono in ogni suo highlight = non sai niente di lui. Io mi alleno con Battista ex-allievo di Pennacchio e ogni anno vado a Bangkok al Chuwattana gym ad allenarmi con Lamsongkram e Jomthorng e CREDIMI quando dici che dekker è anni luce migliroe rispetto a Pennacchio ti sbagli di grosso
@furmine88
@furmine88 15 жыл бұрын
sicuramente stava distrutto dekkers senno lo distruggeva al primo raund a pennacchio..
@thesthreets102
@thesthreets102 8 жыл бұрын
ma dekker l'altra gamba sa usarla bha pennacchio tutta la vita non c'è paragone
@ephasm
@ephasm 15 жыл бұрын
The biggest difference between Muay Thai and Savate is the way it's scored, not the rules. The fact is that Muay Thai is scored on how much you hurt or move your opponent, in effect, how effective your techniques actually are and not just rewarding you for "tapping" opponents. I'm not saying that there isn't any power in Savate nut that it doesn't force you to power in the same way that Muay Thai does.
@stormbringer2840
@stormbringer2840 6 жыл бұрын
Mua thai rely more on power and toughness and savate on speed and evasion .
@jormungand1224
@jormungand1224 5 жыл бұрын
@marquis ballard Savate is much more aggressive style than Pure Muay Thai
@stormbringer2840
@stormbringer2840 4 жыл бұрын
Well the fact is that normally you don't need much power in savate kicks to hurt your opponent since they use boots .
@ephasm
@ephasm 4 жыл бұрын
No offence guys, but you sound like none of you have ever done either savate or muay Thai, making those kinds of wildly incorrect statements lol
@pablo67061
@pablo67061 13 жыл бұрын
desde mi punto de vista el problema principal de este combate eran esos protectores en el pie que no permiten para nada libre movimiento mucho menos para patear y es mucha proteccion ya esta de mas esa cosa si hubieran hecho un combate de boxeo thailandes dekkers hubiera ganado por ko seguro jajaj pero tenia reglas (sin codos y sin rodillas y pocos puños) esto es una caca la verdad parece thaekwondo y dekkers es luchador de muay thai no sean bobos al comparar al thai con otros.......
7 жыл бұрын
pablo vrashka y Pennachio pelea con zapatos de punta reforzada. Los dos cedieron para la pelea
@pablo67061
@pablo67061 13 жыл бұрын
vieja no compares ha el maestro de dekkers con ese penachio porque dekkers es mas fuerte veloz y agil que ese y nadie jamas noquio ha dekkers papa que te hace pensar que este nabo lo haria?? si dekkers no hubiera usado esa cosa de karatekita en la pata lo hubiera reventado ha las patadas al otro ademas pensas que se va ha bancar chocar tibia cara ha cara con dekkers este ?? jajaja dekkers es un maestro papa penachio menos que un principìante ante el jajaj i conoces ha dekkers
@Nostromo-Br
@Nostromo-Br 7 жыл бұрын
es su amante
@cph4
@cph4 15 жыл бұрын
Always? Don't be childish.. Take your best 65kg savateur to Lumpini and see what happens under thai rules. Even under Savate rules, you just need the right thai. There are legions who are more elusive and technical than the tank-like Dekker.
@mariobattendier3306
@mariobattendier3306 3 жыл бұрын
Dekkers non era in forma in quel periodo, tornava da un duro incontro con un thailandese. Altrimenti a Pennacchio gli avrebbe rotto il sederino in pochi round!
@patek92
@patek92 4 жыл бұрын
to see it clear, not from an ignorant french perspective: -Dekker wasnt in his prime -Dekker had multiple surgery before this fight -he couldnt use his elbows and knees ohh sorry I didnt know that saying facts are eXcUSeS, sorry to trigger some savate fanboy
@patek92
@patek92 4 жыл бұрын
@Riviere Marc I know what he said, they have good sportmanships. i know savate advantages, i know how savate is a good kickbox type. I just splitted some facts, after lot of savate fanboys saying their fighting style is the superior compare to others. next time if you will answer me please be chill and dont be emotional and/or frustrated
@patek92
@patek92 4 жыл бұрын
@Riviere Marc nah bro you are the frustrated person, because always trying to insult/offend me what is unnecesseary in a argument. I never said that Penachio is worse than Dekker, so I dont understand what is your problem. Im still just splitted some facts before we compete martial arts, which is better, what is so childish
@patek92
@patek92 4 жыл бұрын
@Riviere Marc nah, I you know you want to believe that, but my main purpose was not that
@patek92
@patek92 4 жыл бұрын
@Riviere Marc btw I didn't know that multiple surgeries in the right leg is an excuse
@BFOP15
@BFOP15 4 жыл бұрын
Facts are : A Thaï boxer and a savate boxer can't fight together because rules are too different. With his variety of "weapons" Thaï boxing is much more efficient than savate. The only kind of boxing they can meet, is kick boxing rules. Fact is if the savateur train to adapt the distances (shorter in kick boxing than in Savate) any kick boxer would be the same as Dekkers. I am a savateur, and I made some sparring with kick boxer and american boxer ( full contact) American boxing is a joke a bad mix of english boxing and karate. Kick boxer are slow, very predictable, with little tactics, all they want is sending powerfull blow with their back leg right in front of them. I can tell you, wearing my boots and using savate most of them didn't even understood what happened when I was sparing with them. If I had to list kick boxing by efficiency I'll say with no doubt: 1) Muay Thaï 2) Savate 3) Kick boxing 4) American boxing/ Full contact. Pennachio has adapted the technics and tactics of savate to kickboxing and even Muay Thaï. He won tournament in Muay Thaï and all Thaï boxers knew they had to go with clinches with him if they wanted to win.( look at the fight Pennachio vs Morad Sari, Morad Sari was the 1st western boxer to be Lumpini champion in Thailand in 1999. At the beginning he says I must go with my knees if I want to win...And he won with knees and clinches but each time Morad Sari was at fists and feet distance with Pennachio, he was punished.
@srrtbb
@srrtbb 6 жыл бұрын
Dekkers was not using his amazing punch at all vs this lame ass. I guess taking 40 kicks is a great techniques savate is awesome. Also, the savate fighter take Muay Thai shorts off, because that's not Muay Thai.
@pawnoir
@pawnoir 6 жыл бұрын
This 'lame ass' was multiple times world champion (french boxing and kickboxing). Have some respect, dummy.
@herculesbrofister265
@herculesbrofister265 5 жыл бұрын
@@pawnoir probably some fucktard who thinks if it's not a style used in the UFC, then it's just some scrub.
@terrytibbs1040
@terrytibbs1040 7 жыл бұрын
pennachio is not standing and exchanging like a Thai boxer he is hitting and constantly moving and dekkers doesn't know how to handle it he looks slow and predictable here but pennachio is great at what he does hitting and not getting hit.
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