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Much Better. 9 Bar OPV Mod for Gaggia Espresso Deluxe
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Күн бұрынIn this video, I show how to replace the OPV spring in the Gaggia Espresso Deluxe. This is awesome, because it reduces the out of the box pressure of the Gaggia from 12 bar, down to 9 bar. This helps first of all to reduce the squirting between basket and group head gasket. It also helps to reduce channeling, and gives ultimately a better, tastier, fuller bodied shot.
The good thing is, this is SUPER simple. It's just 6 T10 screws to undo, and a 10mm wrench to get at the OPV. Thankfully, this OPV is the same as the Gaggia Classic Pro, so you can use the same springs interchangeably.
I feel this is an absolute MUST for the Gaggia Espresso Deluxe. This way, you can get tastier espresso, and avoid channeling, capillary action, and astringent espresso.
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@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
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@ralphweinmann7616 7 ай бұрын
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@Brian-Burke 7 ай бұрын
Awesome work as always. When you said give it a thumbs down if it sucks, I laughed and thought of a great line a KZfaqr said. He said something like, If you enjoyed this video, click the thumbs up, and if you hated it, click the thumbs down twice. Have a good one, Tom!
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
There's a microphone channel I've watched where the presenter says that, and I thought it was funny. My humor is usually derivative 😅
@adrianfennell3680 2 ай бұрын
We've had this machine for about 5 months. We'd been using coffee grounds which were for cafetieres and only recently realised we should've using a finer grind for espresso machines. We tried it yesterday and the difference was amazing. A much better tasting, stronger cup. We're going to stick with the 15 bar as we like the results.
@mghisl9735 6 ай бұрын
Replaced the shower screen with IMS-Competition-Ci200IM and it seems to fit and no cratering. Not sure if it is 100% fit but water seems better distributed!
@0212080041 6 ай бұрын
I didn't buy my yet, but already seeing all videos on how to make it better. thank you for this video!
@furan7987 3 ай бұрын
I bought this model recently and first impressions were the brewhead was too fast - found this vid and bought the spring kit and portafilter you linked - literally a two minute fix and now a great little machine. - it does beg a question as why Gaggia dont shio the spring kit to be fitted at own risk - great vid thanks
@MrRondonmon 7 ай бұрын
You do a great job on the tutorials Tom, greetings from Sweet Home Alabama, happy New Year to you and your family.
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
Thanks very much, and a great new years to you too!
@WastelandProject 7 ай бұрын
Greetings, I have a Gaggia Carezza Deluxe, you seem to be one of the most competent on KZfaq, I changed the pressure of the OPV by changing the spring, I found a spring kit on Ebay (in Italy Amazon has sold them out). The kit has three springs (6 bar, 8 bar, 9 bar), I used the 8 bar spring considering that I mostly make single coffees with 7g filter. Carezza Deluxe has plastic doors and is very difficult to dismantle, furthermore the screw under the diffuser of the machine does not allow the use of "Puck Screens", they would be punctured at each delivery, for the rest now with the depressurized filter the coffee does not have that "creeper" taste, it's definitely better than before, not very creamy but decent. Changing that speaker might make it even better, I think. I noticed that you always use double filters (14g) to make videos but with a single filter the "creaminess" decreases a lot.😉
@djmisturada 6 ай бұрын
Hello, Can you share the 9bar spring link for the gaggia carezza deluxe? Thanks
@benspeakman 5 ай бұрын
@@djmisturadaIt's uses the same OPV. Carezza = Classic = Expresso Just search Gaggia Classic Spring
@andreyogogo 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Tom! Thery helpful video. Wish you only excellent shots!
@jvs00051 7 ай бұрын
Soooo you left us in suspense. Did the new spring fix your “Over Pressurization” and “Leakage” problems?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
Yes it did! See my full review of the machine. 😊
@jvs00051 7 ай бұрын
@@TomsCoffeeCorner: Overlooked using my iPhone vs iPad. Thanks
@jvs00051 7 ай бұрын
4 Screws or 6?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
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@daveroe4992 Ай бұрын
I just fitted the new spring and unfortunately the pressure is still too high. Any reason for this or is it likely an incorrect spring? Great video!
@xyz-sn7kg 20 күн бұрын
Would this hack be needed on the Delonghi Stilosa 230? 230 is just bottomless normal basket one. Thanks
@lilmaxied Ай бұрын
I've just bought this machine and I'm a bit underwhelmed, do you think the Gaggia classic will give any meaningful differences and is it worth the extra money?
@johne7100 7 ай бұрын
Good 'un, Tom, thanks. I'd guess that the red gunge on the screw is a thread-locker. Vibration + spring force ==> splat, sooner or later. Given that the OPV is plastic, thread-locker is logical since it reduces the torque needed for a tight seal. Probably a Loctite product - I use them on my bike. Don't know if they make a food-safe one, though, my bike doesn't care. Have a gander at Henkel's stuff. The question arises, though: what is extraction with the pressurized basket like with the 9-bar spring?
@spb4900 7 ай бұрын
Looks like a liquid thread sealant is needed when reconnecting as you said👍
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
The shot is better - I covered it in the full review posted last week. The temp is a bit on the low side though. I’ve still got mixed feelings on this machine.
@johne7100 7 ай бұрын
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I wonder why lower pressure ==> lower temperature (apart from Boyle's Law). Maybe expansion is taken into account in the pump programming, but I can't see exactly how that might work right now.
@mghisl9735 7 ай бұрын
So ... @TomsCoffeeCorner - I have done the mod! Thanks for sharing this - I have done a first test and it seems better! I got from 15.5gr ... 31 grams out in about 23 seconds - (stopping for the pause after the preinfusion)... I kept the grind the same size as before ... Pre-mod if i went finer it was spraying out on the side... I wonder if now I can grind a little finer (1-2 clicks) and see if i can get closer to the 30 grams in 30 seconds? ie. it should be less likely to spray even with slightly finer grind? Also - on the red sealant they put on - i obvously could not add more of it ... I checked post mod and there seem to be no leaks... hopefully it is ok...
@KalritoBrigante 6 ай бұрын
Great video again! I have not the Deluxe, but the Style - can I do that with the same spring and result? Tanks!
@TomsCoffeeCorner 6 ай бұрын
Yes, it's the same. Cheers!
@KalritoBrigante 6 ай бұрын
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you so much!
@yasttd123 7 ай бұрын
Hi, can you show real dimensions for 9 bar spring? Diameter, wire diameter, free length, quantity of coils
@KristianMortensen 7 ай бұрын
If some kind af gaggiuino could be installed - despite the termacoil
@loganmontgomery1955 7 ай бұрын
Any chance you’ll mod the MiiCoffee Apex? I was looking to find a tutorial for installing an OPV on the Apex.
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
Maybe...I will put it on the list. Cheers!
@ahmedalbarot 3 ай бұрын
Do these springs work for breville barista express?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 3 ай бұрын
Nope.
@paetgmeiner3620 7 ай бұрын
And please test temperature with reduced pressure. Maybe it is better now?!
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
I did that in my recent long review. Cheers!
@paetgmeiner3620 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your interesting work! Is the OPV similar to the Dedicia and would it be possible to exchange it with a better one?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
Nope, it's the same as the GCP, so much different than the Dedica.
@concho22 7 ай бұрын
I bought the bottom less porterfilter exactly the one you got, and changed the spring to the exact specifications 9 bar. But it still makes a mess everywhere with that porter filter tracks right down the handle. Very annoying.
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
I would contact the company in your case and ask for a shallower basket. Maybe they'll send you one.
@ass139 7 ай бұрын
Great video as always Tom, can you please advice on preparing proper lattes i havr dedica and recently got eurika based on your recommendation but when i make flavored lattes like vanilla or caramel (i use monin syrup) it always tasteless i’m not sure why maybe you can advice on the quantity of milk/syrup/coffee to pull out a perfect latte Thank you
@loganmontgomery1955 7 ай бұрын
I would use more syrup if it’s tasteless. Also make sure you’re adding the syrup to the espresso and not the milk as it can ruin your machine otherwise.
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
I'd do a double (16 grams in, 30 out), of med-dark beans, steam 200ml of milk, and add a 25ml shot of whatever syrup you like. Cheers!
@ass139 7 ай бұрын
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you you’re the best
@johannestornquist 7 ай бұрын
Great video! In you experience, is the shower screen still an issue with this mod installed? If, do you think it could be changed? I've been thinking about buying an espresso machine for a while now but the amount of time you have to wait for a boiler machine to get up to temperature as well as just the waste of heating all that extra water just isn't something i would want in my life. I don't get how a thermoblock doesn't seem to be a bigger selling point to so many people.
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
The shower screen still sucks, but I ordered a replacement. The Delonghi ECP series warms up quite quickly, and the Bambino Plus is super super fast, fyi. Cheers!
@johannestornquist 7 ай бұрын
@@TomsCoffeeCorner oh that's great to know, thanks for your answer! Could it be something of a sleeper choice if the mods turn out to solve the problems with it do you think? Maybe something to make an updated video about? 😁
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
I think it'll be decent with a 9 bar spring and a shower screen. Still can't recommend it over the Dedica though, with such a lack of aftermarket parts, and such little global distribution. @@johannestornquist
@iconindexsymbol 7 ай бұрын
After the mod, what happens if I grind fine enough to peak higher than 9 bars? What happens when I grind coarse enough to peak lower than 9 bars? How does it affect either the pressure or the flow?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
The OPV acts as a gate. If you grind fine enough for the pressure to exceed 9 bars, that pressurized water will get diverted back into the water resevoir.
@KalritoBrigante 6 ай бұрын
I guess once we do that mod, we cannot use the ESE pods anymore?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын
Good question. I think it will still work. Might just be a little slower.
@beli96 7 ай бұрын
Can you fit 16g of coffee in generic cheap 51mm basket? Its about 25mm in height. IMS basket is little bit taller. Im getting sour espresso with EC685 and cheap basket, but trying to add more coffee than 15g result in mess and espresso is still sour. I will fix that but when you using generic basket do you use 16g of coffee or less (im thinking that maybe headspace is to large if I use 15g).
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
It depends on the basket sizing. I can normally fit 16 grams in most baskets though. Good luck!
@nelljamina419 5 ай бұрын
I's assuming the standard espresso, i.e. non deluxe, has the same internals?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 5 ай бұрын
I would bet a lot of money on it, yes.
@spb4900 7 ай бұрын
So you say that this hack is ok for the non pressured basket, so the pressurised basket is now total redundant completely?
@marcusherts9345 7 ай бұрын
The pressurised basket always was redundant, Especially if you want decent coffee, Throw it away..
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
You can still use the pressurized, I've tried it. It's still good for old or pre-ground coffee beans.
@elfletes 7 ай бұрын
How did you learn to disassemble these types of machines?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
Well, some are quite obvious like this one. Some are hard, like the Bambino Plus. You just go for it, lol.
@tosha420 6 ай бұрын
Could you share what is the size of the wrench needed to unscrew the tube?
@DIYHome360 3 ай бұрын
10mm
@tosha420 3 ай бұрын
@@DIYHome360 Thank you, bro
@Salahdin_216 Ай бұрын
For me, gaggia is now making children's toys, not espresso machines
@TomsCoffeeCorner Ай бұрын
@@Salahdin_216 Well, they are under the influence of Phillips. Otherwise, I think it might be different.
@lusteraliaszero 7 ай бұрын
would you favor this over the dedica in this range with the opv mod?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
Hmm, maybe with a shower plate. Even then I like the design of the Dedica better.
@lusteraliaszero 7 ай бұрын
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks that's very helpful!
@spb4900 7 ай бұрын
Any tips for a better shower screen?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
I ordered this one: www.bluestarcoffee.eu/en/Lelit-Shower-Screen-Mc752-4/m-5297.aspx It's supposed to be a good fit! We'll see!
@andreyknyazev5560 6 ай бұрын
What are the cons? I mean if there are only pros in swapping the springs, why Gaggia still uses stiffer springs in these machines?
@TomsCoffeeCorner 6 ай бұрын
Gaggia just wants high pressure I guess, to get the shots through those pressurized baskets.
@petes_CE 7 ай бұрын
Excellent (05:11)
@realman444 7 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video. I wanted to order my Delonghy 35.31 today (I already ordered - because different shop- everything what you recommended here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9tpZbmnp7-wonU.htmlsi=D_skt5ACRFcTKxoR and I watched this video and I think is better because I can change for 9 bar (one of favourite coffee is Segafredo - next to Illy Classico,Lavazza Rossa) say best result on 9 bar😂 So please tell me this Gaggia or Delonghi 34.10 shot better.
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
I like the ECP better if I’m being honest. Cheers!
@realman444 7 ай бұрын
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you so much. I don't understand just one thing. Delonghi ECP 3420 (ECP 35.31) original portafilter has 3 ears so the bottomless (naked ) has 2 ears....
@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын
No, ALL PFs for the boiler Delonghi machines (not thermoblock) have 2 tabs. Cheers!@@realman444
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