Honestly if my Garand was covered in mud like this I think would cry like a little girl.

mud test on a bow and arrow

Somewhere out there, thousands of Garands screamed in unison.

00:52 "Ready?" Me: no please don't do it

The M1 Garand: the gun where you accidentally say you're inserting a mag when you mean to call it a clip.

worth watching just for the PING

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM ... "DID IT GO PING?" "WHAT?!" "DID IT GO PING?!" "HOW THE HELL WOULD I KNOW, I JUST HAD EIGHT ROUNDS OF 30-06 GO OFF BY MY EAR!"

Patton is rolling in his grave right now

heh, I was once doing some combat training in finnish army, and started to wonder why my rk-62 is smoking so much. I popped the gun open.. had about 4 inch long dry pine twig inside there, slowly burning. Didn't even need to take it out, gun worked just fine :-D if it is smaller than a squirrel, it shouldn't affect the gun ;-) BTW gun sights are interesting when doing combat in snow. its natural reaction to blow into the back sight if its clogged with snow. that is the worst thing to do, as the snow slightly melts, freezes over again, and voila, you just lost back sight.

you should make this exact test with like EVERY gun

I still love Garands. I'll just try not to pour mud on mine lol.

wow, M1 Garand sound is just outstanding

Well this explains why the M1 Garand had a cotton canvas action cover available as a accessory.

When the Garand was undergoing acceptance trials the vulnerability of the mechanism to mud was observed and noted in reports. The weapon was adopted nevertheless because its other strengths more than compensated for that weakness. Furthermore, no semi-auto rifle evaluated up to that time by Ordnance Branch was in any way generally superior to the Garand. The high command realized the mud question would have to addressed by rigorous and effective training rather than by some sort of new mud-resistant rifle design. Remember, this was the mid-1930s, weapons like the FG-42 and the StG-44 with features that inspired Eugene Stoner to create his amazing AR-15 were in the future. The training of American soldiers to understand and maintain their weapons was much more intense and in-depth in the years just prior to and during WWII than in previous wars, especially the 1914-1918 Great War. Thanks to Woodrow Wilson's dunderheaded pacifism, the United States entered that cataclysm totally unprepared in most categories of modern warfare as practiced by the other belligerent powers. We had only a handful of machineguns, and those were generally inferior to world standards. We had no modern artillery, no modern combat aircraft, no tanks, and our standing army in April 1917 would have been hard-pressed to engage the army of Portugal, let alone the forces of Imperial Germany. All we had was a respectable navy and millions of untrained men. In the rush to get those men recruited, trained, equipped, and transported to France lots of shortcuts were taken and priorities were unrealistically skewed toward obsolete means of maneuver and combat. Far too much time was given over to close order drill and bayonet practice, and not nearly enough devoted to realistic training suitable for conditions on the Western Front. When the "doughboys" arrived in France they impressed everyone with their impressive physiques, their precise marching, and their enthusiasm. However, when the first American troops got into the line too many units tried to fight the Germans like it was the Battle of Antietam. A lot of men died who would have lived if their training had been more comprehensive and suitable to the realities of modern war. Too many men did not sufficiently understand even their relatively simple Enfield and Springfield bolt guns to do competent field maintenance or to avoid simple and extremely dangerous mistakes like barrel obstruction. It's not my claim that these points weren't addressed in the soldiers' stateside training, but that the training was brief, dry, and perfunctory -- typically rote lectures delivered by tediously droning sergeants reading aloud directly from the field manual. In terms of military pedagogy, the training methods used in 1917 were less than effective. In WWII the armed forces of the United States took the lessons of the Great War to heart and created training regimens unmatched in military history, and in a remarkably short time. In just a matter of a few months from December 1941, the Signal Corp created formats for training films, printed manuals, and classroom lectures. Among those creations were superscale models of infantry weapons such as machineguns, mortars, and hand grenades for use in classroom presentions. Furthermore, these training regimens and aids were constantly updated to keep abreast of battlefield experience and enemy means and devices revealed by military intelligence services. Sometimes training films were released after the subject matter had been revised. In those cases, an introduction sequence was often edited in explaining that some points to be covered were no longer applicable. Lecture material was included along with the film for the officer or NCO in charge of the presentation to address those obsolete points. KZfaq has dozens, perhaps hundreds of these training films available. There are even a few Nazi-era German training films available, and it is interesting to compare the style and substance of American training films to their enemy's similar efforts. Of particular relevance to this mud test conducted by Karl and Ian are these two videos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7lklbmmtqrFlKs.html and kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJp8nctm37KmoI0.html . Everyone with an interest in the M1 Garand will profit by watching them.

I just recently bought an M1 and I wanted to sort of keep it secret from my family. I spent about a month waiting for a chance to shoot it just to see if it works. I loaded a clip and kept expecting the bolt to immediately fly forward. When it didn't I thought something was insanely wrong. In a panic, I spent about 10 minutes trying to purposefully induce Garand thumb, God finally gave me a freebie and sent the bolt forward. After finishing the test I realized what I did and for the next week I had a hand print on my forehead the size of Wichita.

I love that you guys did all these mud tests. You've proven that the ar15 most battle tested mbr is the best shtf gun to have. Glad I got one and glad they are now so affordable. And also glad I got a DD GG2 so I can mill my own on the cheap.

Awesome test, thank you for doing this! These are the best torture tests ive seen. It's too bad the Garand action fails this test, being a big mini-14 fan.

FYI :don't throw your rifle in a mud bog and expect it to function without a complete strip down and cleaning/lube.

This video made me cry, but I’m also glad someone has the balls to do this is such a precious and beautiful gun I could never do this

Next I want to see 3rd Gen. rifles put to the test: SCAR, ARX, and ACR going against the AR-15.

what I really like about you guys is that you are not super attached to these weapons like some of the fans are. its a tool, accentually, and you guys test it as such. love it guys

Wonder why Marines can keep their M1G always clean even their battlefields were mainly muddy in Pacific more than the Army in Europe during WW2.

I get what you guys are trying to do, but this made me cringe...Old gal deserves a cush retirement.

This is why you don't feed your M1 to the Mud Bog monster.....Ping on my friends

That muddy stuff, that is why you have a bayonet!

You should get a bigger container and just dunk that thing in there.

FINALLY! SOMEBODY ON KZfaq PRONOUNCES IT CORRECTLY.

0:56 the mud test is important, but damn Karl why did you have to drop the forestock against the edge of the wheelbarrow, thats just uncalled for

This is why the British army did not except the M1 Garand into service. Their own tests conducted in WW2 came to the conclusion that it was an unrefined technology. It needed further revision before it could be declared suitable for military service, they where however impressed with the semi-auto principle.

Sten SMG, Owens SMG (Forgotten Australian SMG known for being robust)

I know a lot of people love the m1 for its nostalgia, but overall i think its quite an impractical weapon

I know the ping is legendary, but the sound of the gunfire itself is positively heartwarming.

I'm gonna cry

The M1 Garrand...Ahhh Yes.!!!...That Sweet Succulent sound of Bullet through flesh. -Unknow Poet "1944

So.......Marines in Pacific were so fucked with the mud.

I remember many hours spent disassembling and assembling both the M1 and the 1911 against a stop watch. I believe the reason for this was so what you displayed does not happen. Granted if it came to a shot had to be fired and all you had was a rifle laying in the mud take the shot and pour water through the action to resume. That is how I learned to respond to such conditions. A clean weapon is a happy weapon!

Hot Damn! I always forget just how much the Garand absolutely ROARS when it fires.

Taking away the Garand's ability to ping should be illegal

Having just watched a bunch of the later ones the instant fun and crazyness of this video is refreshing.

I would hope the M14 would be slightly better considering it's an improved M1. If it did worse, it wouldn't be much of an improvement.

God i love the sound of the garand when the clip is done

Thay doesnt surprise me in the least. Thankyou guys for doing these tests. Keep up the great work and keeping it professional.

When the M1A is inaccurate, the M1A guys blame the shooter. When the mud choked the M1A, M1A guys blame the mud and the shooter. Sounds about right.

no rifle not even the AKs could fire with ROCKS in the action.

The M1 Garand is the greatest battle implement ever devised!

Still got access to that Owen Gun, Ian? I'd love to see a modern test. It's not the prettiest firearm, and the Australian army initially didn't see the use for a sub machine gun prior to WWII (one of the reasons for it's initial rejection), but when the government later told them they did, they used an MP40, Sten and Thompson as benchmarks for comparison, which all failed instantly during mud and sand testing. The Owen continued on flawlessly.

My my my...the sound of that rifle firing and cycling is music to my ears! There's something about that action that makes me smile. I've got a mini-14 and it's almost as if you can feel each individual action as it cycles and I love it. Sadly I haven't yet had the pleasure of a Garand or M1A, but there's still hope yet.

I spent 9 months and 15 days in VN as a "rifleman" in an infantry platoon. Don't remember ever seeing any firearm this muddy.

please do this with a g3! id love to see that

Honestly the mud test is Probly not the worst shit m1 garands have been through in there entire service life

This hurt to watch...but I searched for this video and I'm glad I saw it!!

There's a WWII Garand training film where the Army is explicit that mud will stop it. They make it clear that once you have mud in the action, you're out of business until you strip it and clean it. P.S. in another video mud even messed up the fabled AK. He could manually cycle it, but not quickly.

Great video guys! Was the susceptibility to mud a design flaw of the Garand or more simply just drawbacks of a top loading and rather open action that self-loaders of the time mostly all shared?

I’m a Brit. If that was a Lee Enfield, you’d be desecrating a museum piece. In the USA, you’re merely soiling some surplus, haha!

Seeing the M1 give up that easily makes it hard to believe it’s related to the AK-47

It never ceases to amaze me how fast the mud dries in the sun

DANG! that .30'06 report just sounds WAY powerful

The sound of this gun shooting is music to my ears. Damn I want a Garand.

I live in the interior of Alaska, I use a m1 in all weather, all temperatures, I have had it buried in muskeg, I have had it in swamps, I have had it wet and frozen at -40 plus and I have had 0 yes zero that is zero zip nadda, not one malfunction in the 10 years used

I realize there isn't any "soil " in AZ to make what most of us picture when we hear mud. I believe this mud test might reflect the Pacific theater somewhat. In the European theater I think you might see this kind of stone soup on the beaches, but man, Arizona mud is some nasty shit!!! Looks more like mortar mix. Thanks for your videos!

on iwo jima there is a video of a marine trying to open the action of an m1 with volcanic sand in the action

Great video. I shot M1's and M14's for many years in competition. I had a guy next to me at a match just about slice his hand off after a slamfire so that stuck firing pin could have been a bad time for you guys.

0:33 God, that sound is delicious. Imagine having to fight against that, the sound alone would be demoralizing.

The horror

I am wondering, this looks like the extreme of what these guns could go through, what would be a realistic test for these rifles. I still love these videos, and it is very informative to see these rifles go through such conditions. Keep up the good work.

I understand the concept behind these vids, but history still tells a different story. The M1 was known for its reliability and it fought it every type of environment. This is not to say it didn't have failures but I know vets and current members of the armed forces who curse the AR platform. Run these guns thru realistic scenarios, firing hundreds of rounds. Soldiers are trained to keep their guns out of the mud. They try to avoid getting them buried in it. Then after that trial run, see which one is easier to get back in action after a stoppage. Just on the range, a friend's AR's bolt locked to the barrel and we would've broke the T-handle forcing it. M1s can be kicked open. Thankfully it did fire or getting that out would've been alot more dangerous. Most of my M1s have never failed me save for misfires, one case head separation (Keep a headless case extractor in your butt trap.), and one gun whose as built original op-rod has a badly worn piston. Just my two cents.

Your killing me, a M1 Garand. I been looking for one for a long time and here you are beating the hell out of it. Please don't do it with a M1 CARBINE.

Can't say I didn't see this coming. Good job guys!

OMG 😳 Don't scratch the rifle with the steel shovel man! 😭 What are you doing! 😂 (a lot of people immediately thought)

i have an M1 and seeing it with all that mud hurts my soul

I've read that Marines on Okinawa sometimes had to kick their M1 bolts into battery with their boots because of the mud. I suppose you could always try that...

Next test: Please jam the muzzles of an AK and an AR in the mud and tell us which performs best. Point is, if you find yourself engaged in combat in the mud you're going to have to be careful to keep your rifle out of the shit, no matter what you're fighting with. Can't do that?.. You might not make it.

2020: Mud test M1 Garand 10 years later: Mud test M1 Abrahams

Thanks for the mud test videos. Please be careful with these tests, I am afraid the mud will give with the firing pin stuck while you guys are trying to clear and clean it. Not sure if that is possible, but just be safe.

You guys should start a playlist with these torture tests. It would really help people discover your older content later on!

I just watched this video back to back after the AR15 video, and I was like, "Holy shit, that thing's loud..."

Is there anyone in existence (barring Axis WWII vets) who DOESN'T love that pinging noise when it throws out the empty clip? Man I love that sound

Watching these mud tests doesn’t usually bother me but that poor garand. We were able to generate power by turning Chesty Puller rolling in his grave at the state of that rifle into a generator

One of the most beautiful rifles ever! Great Canadian engineering

Thank you for not tossing the old girl on the ground after the test. I thought you were going to, after watching your AR and AK mud test videos.

I talked to a WW2 vet who was selling his M1. He pointed at me and said "all these fancy new rifles! Nothing like my ol Garand! It wont fail you covered in mud!" I walked away because i didnt have enough money but i laughed because in all his experience he knew how to fall into the mud!

0:56 That Garand was like, _NO, I’M NOT GOING IN THERE !_

I get a better understanding of how tough it was for American G.I.s during WW2 in the pacific. Great video guys.

Thank you. I really wanted to see this test, which simulated the results if a soldier fell into a severely muddy area. It certainly makes bolt action rifles with removable magazines much more appealing during our mud season. The AK test will be equally interesting.

Damn that thing makes a beautiful sound.

In Range, love the show. in regards to the firing pin, the pin will retract on contact with the m1 receiver when the bolt closes. A protruding pin is insignificant.

"Then they brought it to Vietnam and thought that would be a good idea. And that, children, is why the M16 was born."

I'm crying right now

This was an interesting video. During a dig in Germany I've recovered a jammed M1 Garand rifle, it still had 6 rounds in the clip and a spent casing in the chamber. The jam on the rifle looks very similar to the jam on your second test. Poor GI didn't survive...

That old war dog was neutered by mud. Can't really be mad by the facts but I was a little surprised.

That's a full afternoon of cleaning. Ugh.

Oh yeah, some else to look up... nothing you guys did wrong. back after WWII (long before I was around, I'm Iraq/Afghanistan Era) we gave/loaned the Italians a bunch of M1 Garands. Before Beretta started making the BM59 they also had issues with water and other liquids pooling in the lower area of the trigger assembly. They would mill 3 narrow slots in the bottom. The name they gave it sounded really fancy, but it basically meant "slotting the spoon". My grandfather told me about it when he visited Italy. They said it work well for keeping pools of fluid out but the slots weren't so big as to let much crud in. I've never seen on from that era and can only imagine that they were tiny slots. anyway, just an interesting story.

My Dad carried one with 3rd MarDiv during Korea. He is 5'-6" and slight so he overwhelmingly preferred the M1 to the BAR which he hated. He also hated the flamethrower (no kidding?) which he carried in the Weapons Company for a time. He thought the 1911 was a POS which may have well been true by the 1950s. He thinks the WORLD of the M1 and would totter over to threaten you after disrespecting it! The strange thing, to me at least, is that rifle fought in the worst jungles of the Pacific and you never, ever read anybody complaining about it's reliability. I'm an M16 Marine and we cleaned our rifles religiously and I never had ANY problems with them either. I will never forget the weapons guys telling us to keep "hosing it with CLP and it'll keep running."

I have to say I didn't expect the rifle to make that manly of a sound

It's a good thing the mud in Europe isn't nearly as sandy as in AZ. Except for the beaches of Normandy of course.

You guys were never had a chance to see any combat , First thing a soldier learn is how to take care of his life and his life is his rifle. There is no way a rifle get mud like that in combat . That is not battlefield situation , people can only see in your channel , However I have to appreciate for what you guys are doing.

This is the reason why everyone should have a camera

Oh god I don’t want to watch but can’t look away.

I think we can skip the mud test on this icon, it's proven itself

Great series of tests. They certainly earn a HUGE more amount of respect for the AR-15, I'll tell you that. I'll never "take if for granted" again.