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Multicopter PI-tuning: How to recognize different settings.

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Rolf R Bakke

Rolf R Bakke

Күн бұрын

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@michaelnelson9140
@michaelnelson9140 Жыл бұрын
That ending was stupid! Very unprofessional! I had just hit the subscribe button, but I don’t think so.
@RcBuddy
@RcBuddy 8 жыл бұрын
Still the best video I have seen when it comes to P and I tuning.
@derdrolftesinn
@derdrolftesinn 3 жыл бұрын
Old Equipment but still actual. So many pid tune vids out there but this old video is still absolute usable.
@kkuhn
@kkuhn 8 жыл бұрын
WTF WHY THE GODDAM CHICKEN!
@worldsfastestdrones9800
@worldsfastestdrones9800 4 жыл бұрын
exactly
@StopaskingformynameYouTube
@StopaskingformynameYouTube 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great demonstration! And he DID warn you all about the chicken, it's your fault for not reading descriptions. :)
@TheTemporalAnomaly
@TheTemporalAnomaly 3 жыл бұрын
I`m a bit late saying this but this is the best video on youtube for showing how to set these settings! Well done! Best regards fro the UK
@wattage2007
@wattage2007 9 жыл бұрын
Worth watching til the end ;-)
@EliasLabordus
@EliasLabordus 8 жыл бұрын
for fuck sake that scared the shit out of me. Even though I was warned..
@fmicmatt
@fmicmatt 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the KK2 board! I can fly my first quad with ease! V1.5 auto level works flawlessly and has saved my quad twice! Beware the chicken!
@TheInvaderDust
@TheInvaderDust 9 жыл бұрын
He tried to warn us about the chicken... Good vid!
@johnrobertson7583
@johnrobertson7583 9 жыл бұрын
I was watching it for the chicken. What was all that crap in the 7:30 before it? XD
@CharlieHunt
@CharlieHunt 9 жыл бұрын
that chicken nearly just gave me a freakin heart attack!!!!!! well done takes a lot to spook me
@probante
@probante 8 жыл бұрын
J.C. YOU SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@aerialperspective7602
@aerialperspective7602 8 жыл бұрын
+probante same
@thomerow
@thomerow 8 жыл бұрын
Great work! The best Video about PID tuning I have seen so far. Will definitely try the single axis on a string method!
@akyadavhere
@akyadavhere Ай бұрын
Finally a guy's 12 yr old video saved my day
@cmreel
@cmreel 10 жыл бұрын
7:28, thanks for the nice scare.I think I will have chicken for dinner.
@copternutFPV
@copternutFPV 11 жыл бұрын
Oh wow finally found your channel Rolf KapteinKUK!!! Just want to say a huge thank you for your contributions to the flight controller world. l am still somewhat of a newbie but learning as quick as l can and after using the KK2.0 with the 1.2 version and now 1.5 firmware l am hooked, its just a beautiful system and very user friendly. l thought my Eagle X6 was good but this BLOWS it out of the water. Thank you KapteinKUK..... Geoff
@mediocrefpv9106
@mediocrefpv9106 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I was struggling with shaky video as well as almost impossible flight characteristics. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
@subzero674
@subzero674 4 жыл бұрын
Totally excellent video, thanks! It is the first vid I've seen that actually demonstrates the effects of bad PID values, very helpful. I like the chicken!
@ToddWahl
@ToddWahl 8 жыл бұрын
Great Demonstration of a multirotor PID assessment and tuning!
@Wingnutz
@Wingnutz 8 жыл бұрын
RIP headphones.. (damn chicken)..
@amara17
@amara17 12 жыл бұрын
my mom had to tolerate the noise of motors when the quad flew in the videos , but when the *chicken* came at the end..... i was like o.O on seeing it ,n my mom came into the room with thaat frightened look on her face asking "is THIS the part of ur project too, honey" .... n after that i cudnt stop laughing! anyways it ws really valuable info, thanks, now i know why our quad's motors were oscillating so much...
@aceflyernz
@aceflyernz 12 жыл бұрын
Good idea to bring in an expert at the end, now it all makes sense!
@orojasp
@orojasp 9 жыл бұрын
I have my quad tuned pretty fine rigth now, but my chicken is oscillating a little... Thanks a lot for the vid!
@08maxout
@08maxout 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, this will be going into my favorites to refer back to when I do any PID tuning. Thanks Kaptein.
@tinkeringlabplus2516
@tinkeringlabplus2516 4 жыл бұрын
Best simulation on youtube. Thanks.
@hhsphotography
@hhsphotography 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rolf. I'd given up on my KK 2.1 board. I'll give it another try with this reference to help. Chicken was friggin weird. Hope everybody is ok.
@new2diving
@new2diving 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo ! appreciated !
@DB2023Space
@DB2023Space 9 жыл бұрын
Ain't nuth'n but a chicken wing baby! Startled me a little lol... nice video thanks!
@Rcschim
@Rcschim 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work here! The idea with the rubberbands is good! I found the settings while flying , but it wasnt easy... The end was funny :-)
@JohnFHendry
@JohnFHendry 10 жыл бұрын
Note that this quad is NOT in X configuration as most people fly in but rather + configuration. As set up here X configuration would be flying sideways. This shows one advantage of + configuration for setup but I'd run a strong line through quads with round carbon tubes to tie each end to because the round carbon arms are not bolted to the frame and use friction (and in my case a set screw to keep motor arms from rotating I don't want moved) to hold them in so they don't get pulled out... and a safety bottom line to a weight "just in case".
@lifeispancakes
@lifeispancakes 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks..was wondering about this.
@TeganBurns
@TeganBurns 9 жыл бұрын
When the quadcopter tries not to move when he applies force is more of a sign of a high D gain, epically when it doesn't move back to to the level position when he has let the sticks center. If the P or I gain was high then it would shoot back to the level position when he let go of the sticks.
@_ShaDynasty
@_ShaDynasty 9 жыл бұрын
that mount you made is really useful.
@SvenOkonomi
@SvenOkonomi 12 жыл бұрын
Beware of the ch.. HOMG NO! Good video, looks like my quad and I are looking for some bondage time. ;)
@JuanAriasArias
@JuanAriasArias 8 жыл бұрын
Good job. Nice video but, not chicken.
@Tigerwilson88
@Tigerwilson88 7 жыл бұрын
Looking at this video again after a year away from it. My copter is doing some weird stuff and that dang chicken got me again!!!
@JanPeterSimonsen
@JanPeterSimonsen 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you, exactly what I wanted to know about P & I !
@tiagopadua
@tiagopadua 11 жыл бұрын
That sound of the chicken can actually damage good speakers if the gain of the amplifier is set too high. But then... I'm on youtube, I should know that could happen.
@san-so7vl
@san-so7vl 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative. And funny at the end. Thanks.
@RussellGilder
@RussellGilder 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Good visual reference
@bojanks
@bojanks 7 жыл бұрын
Best vid for kk2 controller. Thanks.
@blackmennewstyle
@blackmennewstyle 10 жыл бұрын
OK, it's easy like that (In theory lol) So you just need to find the best combination between P and I on Pitch, Roll, Yaw and relative to your style of flying :D Thanks for this super duper cool video ;) Thumbs up for your good job Nice scary chicken lol
@garretonufer
@garretonufer 9 жыл бұрын
aside from your dumb chicken at the end, this is a very helpful and informative video.
@wubwub89
@wubwub89 9 жыл бұрын
WTF FUCK THAT CHICKEN, did not see the warning, cat knocked over bunch of stuff, I nearly crapped myself.
@Bergwacht
@Bergwacht 6 жыл бұрын
please read the description before you look - if you want to use your ears in future lol
@Clickbaiters
@Clickbaiters 9 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha!!! Thumbs up for the chicken!!
@irahtum244
@irahtum244 17 күн бұрын
Thanks bro usefull vid 😊 Can't wait to see the end of the video
@ahmedsaleem9327
@ahmedsaleem9327 9 жыл бұрын
excellent demo but scared the hell out of me in the end
@everythingFromNow
@everythingFromNow 10 жыл бұрын
I assume that you fly your quad in X mode, but when you do the string setup, are you then switching it to + mode? Or do you stay in X mode?
@JohnFHendry
@JohnFHendry 10 жыл бұрын
To do this in X mode you need to tie a string between the motors and center it accurately. Not as easy to do as in + mode and even in + mode string needs to be in line centered with motor shaft as shown.
@SgtPickledic
@SgtPickledic 12 жыл бұрын
That chicken noise sounds like my wife if i wake her up in the middle of the night.. :)
@FubarFpv
@FubarFpv 7 жыл бұрын
Pmsl. Wtf. Damn chicken. Good vid man.
@hayleymillington7271
@hayleymillington7271 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome, easy and simple, how it should be. Thankyou very much....
@markscott2830
@markscott2830 9 жыл бұрын
That's the scariest shit i have ever seen at the end with the chicken!!!!
@crawf1957
@crawf1957 11 жыл бұрын
Skidmarks in my jockey shorts thanks to that damn chicken!!! lol
@TUMROTOR
@TUMROTOR 9 жыл бұрын
Thks for good vdo . But I have 1 question for sure. I use cc3d board In vdo "I gain" it mean Pid /roll / yaw ? In cc3d . Thank you
@RolfRBakke
@RolfRBakke 12 жыл бұрын
Det er vanligvis mye støy på signalet fra gyroene. Ved bruk av D-term kommer mye av den støyen ut til motorkontrollen. I tillegg vil konstant støy bare fungere som en demper for P og I gain.
@saliksheraz6236
@saliksheraz6236 5 жыл бұрын
Nice tuitorial
@joespamola4556
@joespamola4556 8 жыл бұрын
I'm just starting to explore acro flying and have a question. I dont understand why the craft will not return to center (level) in your video when the right stick is released in your "good P gain, good I gain" example. Is that really how everyone flies? If it doesn't react to the stick being in the center position, how do you level it out? I usually run in horizon or angle and been trying to tune my pids for acro mode and I'm confused by that part in your video.
@philipsmith3633
@philipsmith3633 8 жыл бұрын
+Joe Spamola It is in manual mode meaning there is no autolevel when you release and return to center. You have to manually move the stick in the opposite direction to level it out. This is how 99% of all the pros fly.
@RolfRBakke
@RolfRBakke 12 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell, I frightened myself with that freaking chicken! :)
@jakesky100
@jakesky100 9 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS THERE A CHICKEN IN A PID TUNING VIDEO LOL THAT ROCKS
@fidelator
@fidelator 8 жыл бұрын
This chicken is scary indeed
@chrisharrisseacaptainchris
@chrisharrisseacaptainchris 10 жыл бұрын
farkin chicken
@alk5749
@alk5749 6 жыл бұрын
Good vid, loved the chicken.
@aytacgultekin2485
@aytacgultekin2485 10 жыл бұрын
during the single axis tunning the gyro is active or not? And then what about D gain? During the test D has a exact value or zero?
@TECHnoman753
@TECHnoman753 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo
@JhonysOliveira
@JhonysOliveira 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent Work, thank you!
@macfosch
@macfosch 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice and very educative video ! And what about P limit and I limit ? How to setup them please ?
@pakhong
@pakhong 8 жыл бұрын
Great work! thanks for sharing.
@Soldier53flyer
@Soldier53flyer 11 жыл бұрын
Great job! you make it look ease.
@andreamontani9266
@andreamontani9266 8 жыл бұрын
hi Rolf, I am trying to let a tricopter with KK2 work. after level calibration the trico flies quite fine but after some time it gets unstable. after disarming, if I check the roll and pitch angles they have changed and they are completely different from the refererence (0 deg for both on leveled surface). I have to calibrate again the accelerometers on a leveled surface and the trico starts to fly well for few seconds. do you know which problem is this one? thanks a lot. Andrea
@DL6UK
@DL6UK 9 жыл бұрын
KK2.16: Self Level mode ON. Difficult to stay in one height as the copter goes up and down. I guess, Pgain too high. Do I have to change Pgain in the self level fille or in the P-Editor? I can´t reallly make it out.
@rohitroychowdhury5496
@rohitroychowdhury5496 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you please provide the values that we can use for stable flight. I am using KK2.1 Flight Controller, Q450 quad with FlySky ct6b radio transmitter. We are facing problem as our quad stats oscillating after taking off. All the ESC and other calibrations are done. Please help.
@jimmyblack2505
@jimmyblack2505 7 жыл бұрын
Rohit Roy Chowdhury oscillating means your P and I gains are too high for the motor prop config you have...just keep lowering them until it stops
@chenchok3247
@chenchok3247 9 жыл бұрын
Noticed your brilliant idea on X quad , but can I tie two arms of 230 or 250 size H quad and do the similar pid tuning ? H-quad does not seem balance if tie this way . I have FrSky Taranis and Naze32 acro with cleanflight. Do you have similar setup ?
@GAMINOES
@GAMINOES 6 жыл бұрын
Give me the values of pi editor menu.. all values that make the drone fly perfectly without any jittering or cause the drone to speed up automatically by its own .. I have that problems.
@balusavivekvivek445
@balusavivekvivek445 7 жыл бұрын
hey there i have a problem i.e my drones throttle is staying idle and am unable to rectify it??
@Benik333
@Benik333 11 жыл бұрын
Why after releasing of stick it stay in the position? I thought that it should automatically flatten to "zero" position (like helicopter)
@EddieKMusic
@EddieKMusic 10 жыл бұрын
What about D? For some reason if I keep "I" value at 0, and only configure P and D values everything is alright, "I" for me is useless.
@Muhammed4ever
@Muhammed4ever 11 жыл бұрын
Peace be upon you wonderfull Thank you so much
@san-so7vl
@san-so7vl 7 жыл бұрын
Pls demonstrate for D-gain as well.
@UGKasunHerath
@UGKasunHerath Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a KKMulticopter v5.5 board and I am having trouble finding and downloading firmware and tools because all KKMulticopter websites are down. Can you help me with it?
@silbernersurfer8264
@silbernersurfer8264 8 жыл бұрын
I am a beginner and not able to fly in acro mode, but I was able to hover my quad in acro mode with default settings in Cleanflight. In angle mode it has shaked violently which forces me to an emergency landing. I had to setup angle/horizon level to 3,0 to make it stable. Default was 9,0. There is still a little bit of wobbling. Should I use Pid tuning in Angle mode or does PID only affect the acro mode?
@DashzRight
@DashzRight 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video Rolf, just a general question about pid. If a quadcopter has a large battery crossing the frame from back to front, and is located 5cm under the chasis , so the movement in the roll axis takes more effort, what shoul I do? Increase my P in the roll axis? Decrease it ? Raise the I? Btw I ask this because my batteries have died so I cannot test anything right now.
@0Gravity1966
@0Gravity1966 6 жыл бұрын
Great video for us newbies struggling with what to look for and how to correct it....so I built a quad for my grandson that I get a pretty bad propwash like wobble when I am decending strait down.....I've been thinking I need to RAISE the I Gain, but from your video I'm wondering if it is not a to high "I Gain" that I am seeing because it is more of a low freq wobble that makes the quad feel very unstable!
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 10 жыл бұрын
String test is being done on '+' config, so how do you do this string test on 'x' config?
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 10 жыл бұрын
what if you were to set the gains in + config and then once set change back to x config? I haven't tried it yet but seems like it would be a pretty accurate way to get there!?
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 10 жыл бұрын
izzzzzz6 - I'm fairly certain the gains reset as soon as you switch motor configuration.
@JohnFHendry
@JohnFHendry 10 жыл бұрын
izzzzzz6 No because the oscillation gains are different.
@aSpyIntheHaus
@aSpyIntheHaus 6 жыл бұрын
The chicken made this video make sense. :)
@noodles818
@noodles818 12 жыл бұрын
What do you do with the 'D' value the whole time.....Do you set the 'D' the way you want it first and then set the 'P' and 'I' ???
@shahadalrawi6744
@shahadalrawi6744 8 жыл бұрын
you are genius. thanks a lot for this video
@youqjmictube
@youqjmictube 8 жыл бұрын
Good demonstration, but nothing on D setting ?
@tuginator
@tuginator 9 жыл бұрын
Damn chickens need their PIDs tuned. That is just wrong!
@Mateyhv1
@Mateyhv1 7 жыл бұрын
Best comment!
@jr8699
@jr8699 8 жыл бұрын
So the value which you add on one side, so the same value you tak off on another side?
@MortenBN1988
@MortenBN1988 11 жыл бұрын
Not in full manual mode. It will level itself out when in Auto level mode.
@MarceloAlcantaraX
@MarceloAlcantaraX 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Very helpful. Any chance you could talk about the D tunning?
@JoachimAxelsen
@JoachimAxelsen 9 жыл бұрын
***** aaw damn, I wanted the D..
@tttuberc
@tttuberc 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Rolf Could you tell me if you can keep the quad steady at an angle when P&I are correct? For example if you give some stick so that the quad tilts about 10 degrees, does it stay there over time? Or does it drift? Likewise if you keep it level, does it tilt over time? Thanks
@merelyanopinion
@merelyanopinion 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Obi-Wan (I'm surprised you have the time) and for the KK2 board which has given me hours of entertainmnet. Crashes and all.
@RafaelLedesma45
@RafaelLedesma45 11 жыл бұрын
I have a KK2 V1.2 and i'm wondering if you could help me out, where do i make changes to make the motors act right. when i hit right rudder it goes down, if i hit left rudder it flips right, left aileron goes right and right aileron goes left, elevator its fine. Thank you in advance
@ditrone
@ditrone 8 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tuning help!
@RodrigoSalazarZugasti
@RodrigoSalazarZugasti 11 жыл бұрын
so this only applies to plus config ??, how can be this done to x config ?
@masian25
@masian25 11 жыл бұрын
veeeeeeeery veeeeeeeery good tutorial, you save my cuadrotor to go straight to the trush XDDD
@theone4546
@theone4546 7 жыл бұрын
i'm korea student, I am doing a project I would like help please~~ my drone is keeps shaking little by little. how solution?
@ArduJimmy
@ArduJimmy 11 ай бұрын
Are you using multiwii? how to do PID Tuning in multiwii? I already used it in multiwiiconf but still unstable and too much shaky
@freddievermeulen5853
@freddievermeulen5853 7 жыл бұрын
any chance you can post a video with that chicken strapped to the multicopter and flying around scaring people?
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