Munro Live Podcast: Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe & the New Dual Motor

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@ZacharySchulz 11 ай бұрын

I love seeing a CEO that can keep up with Sandy on a technical basis. RJ knows his stuff ❤

@tedphillips1099 11 ай бұрын

As a former engineering test technician, I can't get enough of these discussions hosted by Sandy👍

@cengeb 11 ай бұрын

More plastic snaps, make it cheaper, is not a good manufacturing policy. Well if Sandi says, it must be...............some absurd reasoning, or just shilling...or clueless. I uhhh, aaaahh, get speech therapy, it's really annoying,

@nordstau2251 11 ай бұрын

@@cengebkomm ❤ XY d es 😂❤❤😂😂“

@msmiller57 11 ай бұрын

Nice video Sandy! Can't help but like RJ. Under his leadership Rivian is actively doing the things they need to to survive and thrive in this new transportation paradigm. I wish them success for all our sakes.

@bradcavanagh3092 11 ай бұрын

Hats off to Mr Scaringe for being so open and willing to talk shop. I would bet that he wasn't disclosing the specific figure on cost reduction because of its impact on the company's share price.

@Simple-Brian 11 ай бұрын

I don’t always watch podcasts on KZfaq but, when I do it’s Munro Live.

@johnbuchman4854 11 ай бұрын

Sandy declaring that RJ has ceramic balls was the highlight of this interview!

@johnnyz.fradley2306 11 ай бұрын

I would have thought they would be brass since he is the "top brass" of Rivian.

@jondiaz3475 11 ай бұрын

I wondered if the reason the grounding brushes were left in the design was in case they had a supply issue with the ceramic balls and had to go back to SS. And all the IGBT supply chain pain brought me right back to the job I retired from in 2021. :)

@jeffpicken5057 11 ай бұрын

@@jondiaz3475”Hey! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone.”

@youmakeitreal 11 ай бұрын

@@jeffpicken5057ok fletch 😊

@px7460 11 ай бұрын

RJ Scaringe does a good job explaining Rivian's build philosophy

@gm7542 11 ай бұрын

It is very cool to have such open discussions between company owners. Kudos

@obfuscator 11 ай бұрын

More CEOs should be out and talking about technical details of the products or services they build. Great conversation, looking forward to seeing more of these 1:1

@virgilwhetsel5289 11 ай бұрын

Clark Kent is an engineer and he works for Rivian! Wonder what he uses for a phone booth now?

@Rx100Vx 11 ай бұрын

Yeah in this case Clark Kent founded this company and is it’s CEO too .

@shirolee 11 ай бұрын

Hahaha

@michaeldautel7568 11 ай бұрын

The same place his iphone is stored?😂😂😂😢

@carlosnorris352 3 ай бұрын

We’ll never see kryptonite used in those cars.

@ZzHasbrozZ 11 ай бұрын

Love the open and candid discussion however the question that was missed was about repairability costs. Recent articles claiming low speed rear collisions costing upwards of 1/2 the vehicle purchase price.

@kylecooney8342 11 ай бұрын

Love RJ's depth of knowledge around his product. Hard to imagine CEOs of other major OEMs going to the same level of depth with Sandy.

@terrysullivan1992 11 ай бұрын

Yes, but Rivian is not a "major" OEM, it's a small start up . RJ is an engineer and Rivian has lots of backing. Great truck, great engineering, truely hope they survive into full profitable production.

@JB-ej2qy 11 ай бұрын

Very Impressed with RJ, he is more then a CEO. Elon should take notice, this is how a interview works. He gives direct answers.

@Youshouldnthavedonedat 11 ай бұрын

It’s RJs trade secret are you implying he steal it ? 😂

@slopedarmor 11 ай бұрын

Elon also is of the direct answers.... have you ever listened to mary barra during an investor call, shes like never willing to give a real answer like shes a politician

@klantic2 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic interview! Rivian will succeed and I can't wait to see their R2 line up.

@Eric-xp1kl 11 ай бұрын

Love the discussion! Great job getting Sandy & RJ together. We love our R1T (Quad). I’m not sure all you give up with the dual (basically a part time awd), loss of torque vectoring on slick roads or performance driving is worth only 7% more range.

@terrysullivan1992 11 ай бұрын

Much lower cost to a much broader customer base = lots more sales.

@Eric-xp1kl 11 ай бұрын

@@terrysullivan1992 Much lower? A base R1T is now $79,000 with zero options, + destination, taxes, fee's, and no home charger. Base prices are $79K, $84K, & $87K. All Sandy and RJ discussed really was the Performance Dual which is only $3K cheaper, and yet, you really do give up a lot for only a slight increase in range. The cost saving is to Rivian and I understand that. But as a consumer, I see more value in the Quad. Just my preference. Some people may qualify for the tax credit in the base, but that I think will only be partial as the batteries are imported. You also have income qualifications.

@bob15479 10 ай бұрын

I think realistically you’re giving up very little. Modern vehicles brake spinning wheels to force power to gripping tires under the circumstances you describe. Quad motor is certainly superior but I don’t think there are a lot of circumstances where it’s going to make “all the difference” for 99.7% of buyers. And I don’t think 95% would even be able to tell the difference.

@leebacon3432 11 ай бұрын

Always eager to listen to RJ's openness (maybe too much openess) and Sandy interrogation of how, when, and why Rivian is doing something.

@terrysullivan1992 11 ай бұрын

It is major plus advertizing for Rivian to have Sandy praise it and it's engineering. RJ might as well be very open with Sandy and Monro is going to be doing a total tear down soon and will know all.

@Applejba 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely love these videos! As a RS1 reservation holder for over a year I'm happy to know that I will have this as an option. Thanks RJ!

@smarticus6384 11 ай бұрын

It's impressive the technical abilities of these EV maker CEOs like RJ and Elon, especially when compared to paper pushers like Mary Barra and other legacy door stops. As an investor, it's not difficult to know where I should be investing and where I shouldn't.

@mrwhite5752 11 ай бұрын

Great interview 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@kevinphillips9408 11 ай бұрын

Great podcast guys. Really found it so interesting and informative. Thank you

@MunroLive 11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@kevendog8246 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Sandy, for the followup with JR. Gave the first-look Rivian, at the factory with JR high marks for design, quality build, and performance. The second-look with your better-half was also impressive, but she could probably sell me sand in the desert😊 JR still owes her(...$) The only thing that concerned me about the Rivian was the 300+ suppliers, and JR went directly to that issue of 'verticle-integration'. JR's grown quite-a-bit with this EV, looks good, a bit worn, and certainly more confident/comfortable with his product. Ohhh, that metal plate in the inverter, separating the mother-daughter boards, is for heat-sink and electrostatic isolation. 2-motor performance speaks to the overall improvement in efficiency, ...despite the brushes plus ceramic bearings😃

@jeffpicken5057 11 ай бұрын

That’s RJ

@ascenttev6022 11 ай бұрын

RJ = Kent Clark Sandy = Engineering Wizkid Of All Time. I enjoy these discussions and look forward to the next. Team Rivian, Kudos to you all.🎉

@rampagepb 11 ай бұрын

Kent Clark?

@joebachmeier6747 11 ай бұрын

Clark Kent the nerdy reporter from New York, he worked for James Jamison I think I remember, lol

@tazeat 11 ай бұрын

I want to know more about the dual motor traction strategies and what the trade offs there are moving from the quad motor in much much more detail than the marketing flier might suggest. Very few have actually talked about it that I've seen.

@lesbendo6363 11 ай бұрын

Good interview. 🇨🇦

@MorganWalser 11 ай бұрын

Fantastic interview, thank you.

@MunroLive 11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@peterlynchchannel 11 ай бұрын

6:28 RJ: Thank you Sandy

@Eric-xp1kl 11 ай бұрын

I do wish RJ and his team would put more time into finding a true solution to my R1T’s half shaft clicking, tocking, and persistent alignment issues. Also, when is my replacement Powered Tonneau cover coming?

@carlosnorris352 3 ай бұрын

For a first vehicle of a startup company it’s actually impressive good reliability. When you have GM failing on differentials after more than a century of assembly, that’s a problem.

@ElectricCarAustralia 11 ай бұрын

Very interesting.

@pin65371 11 ай бұрын

Couldnt they solve the off road issue with dual motor by adding electronic lockers in the front and the rear? Technically with the quad motor you are spreading out 900 lb/ft between 4 wheels. With a dual motor you are spreading a tiny bit less torque but can spread that out to two wheels.

@tjmozdzen 11 ай бұрын

@15:00 or so, I think explains why I felt uneven surging on an R1S test drive over bumpy road - non ideal handoffs at moderate speeds (20 to 35 mph).

@Havencheer2014 11 ай бұрын

good discussions. The main issue with the Rivian in my mind, is their price point. The R1S is still relevant, but the R1T, I feel is over priced. I can't deny the attributes such as handling, power, off road capability, misc camping/overlanding add ons available, and range are worthy, but the things I can't get past as a consumer used to "full size" pick ups, is the interior space, frunk size/grill in the way, and total vehicle size. Not to mention limited outlets on the truck to only 110volt.... thus unable to use truck fully as a home back up generator.. To many folks, especially already driving a tacoma, ridgeline, maverick, colorado, or ranger, this will be a non-issue, but to other truck people, such as myself, I just cant down size (the American way!). That being said, I own a Ford Lightning , already put 35,000 flawless miles on it, and couldn't be happier! I am very impressed overall with Rivian as a company, RJ as a leader, the vertical integration, NACS adoption, and functionality of the vehicle... but now the price I feel is 10K too high, even for the dual motor variant. Good luck Rivian! Keep it up.

@concinnus 11 ай бұрын

If, as it sounds like, they're selling all they can make, then the price isn't too high. To a company, the optimal price is whatever gives them the highest profit. And if Rivian plows that profit into expansion for now, it's a win-win.

@wemakecookie 10 ай бұрын

@@concinnusExactly, that's basically what I was going to say in response. As long AS people are buying and they're growing sales, there's no reason to lower prices. Why would a company not take that extra profit. Especially a new car company that is ramping up production, they need every cent they can get.

@WilliamAArnett 11 ай бұрын

They went to all the work to make the rear axle disconnect in order to make it slightly more efficient but they can’t put in a locker so that it’s actually useful in Rock Crawl mode??? And for the quad motor version it’s just software.

@mahradpaymani6393 11 ай бұрын

Excellent!

@MunroLive 11 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@Rx100Vx 11 ай бұрын

Great interview and also appreciate the mini tear down discussion on the Dual motor.

@nononsenseBennett 11 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the off road test!

@myvizn8387 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Sandy, I wish RIVIAN success and get us some lower priced SUV’s PLEASE!!!

@carlosnorris352 3 ай бұрын

Your wish has been granted.

@diypasco 11 ай бұрын

There was a lot of talk about the max pack last April with the dual motor, but nothing since then. I’ve been waiting patiently for the max pack configuration for four years because I tow. Please some updates on the max pack.

@stuz32 11 ай бұрын

Great content :-)

@MunroLive 11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@WingofTech 11 ай бұрын

Seems to me like Rivian either needs to make these vehicles more affordable as they scale manufacturing, or start dipping their toes in the more casual consumer markets. By harnessing their brand name, and building cars with similar or superior interior quality and consistency, while reducing the off-roading features (expensive to manufacture, added complexity) in a new, metropolitan-style vehicle. 🤔

@fjalics 11 ай бұрын

Do we want to see how the sausage is made? YES!

@1944chevytruck 11 ай бұрын

AWESOME!

@usafa13n 11 ай бұрын

What about thermal management for dc fast charging? Limiter to me wanting to buy one as I road trip a lot.

@HJP1 10 ай бұрын

I have a R1T built in July of 2022 and I’m getting the impression that the early vehicles were over engineered, I hope that is a good thing!

@beautyisontheinside 11 ай бұрын

You should have asked him about what he is planning to do to finally make this operation profitable…

@ken-mb5cp 11 ай бұрын

It never will. They’de have to double the price.

@TheReal_JG 11 ай бұрын

@ken-mb5cp don't say never. It's already a miracle that Rivian is making production vehicles I've seen driving around. Also, it took Tesla about 15 years to become profitable, and Amazon took about 12 years to get out of the red.

@ken-mb5cp 11 ай бұрын

@@TheReal_JG Used to hear the same reasoning from Lucid stockholders. The guys making a beautiful truck and losing boatloads. Tesla cars were always sold at a profit even when the company was losing money. Bezos put all his profit back into the company but he never sold his books at a loss like Rivian is. It’s simple math.

@wemakecookie 10 ай бұрын

@@ken-mb5cpRivian is making progress as they further ramp up production. I think the Lucid CEO isn't as good. He's taking over 300 million in salary while his company is failing. Lucid is trying everything, reducing prices, advertising and discounting. Their sales are struggling and not really growing, which is a really bad sign. I think a big advantage Rivian has over Lucid is they're targeting a much larger demographic of luxury EV SUVs & trucks. Versus Lucid targeting the luxury EV sedan market, which has a lot more competition and is a shrinking demographic.

@usafa13n 11 ай бұрын

How about cogging at low speed in the dual motor versus the quad motor?

@rgeniec 11 ай бұрын

❤ Sandy…”oh let’s jump to this”🤣

@electricaviationchannelvid7863 11 ай бұрын

Like detective new-Columbo style...

@legostud 11 ай бұрын

Why disconnect the rear drive instead of the front?

@wemakecookie 10 ай бұрын

Front might be more efficient.

@ahmedblair5461 3 ай бұрын

Anyone else notice the R2 charging behind RJ in the lower left corner?

@morgonz 11 ай бұрын

When is Rivian coming to Mexico? I am a big fan and I am interested...

@scorpiofrancis1119 11 ай бұрын

This dude is cool.When i go for the all electric vehicle it will be a Rivian

@truthseeker111 11 ай бұрын

Zero chance I’d buy a Rivian so many better choices with dealer support and 10,000 fewer parts! I’m taking the under they are around in 5-10 years..

@scorpiofrancis1119 11 ай бұрын

@@truthseeker111 cool

@wemakecookie 10 ай бұрын

@@truthseeker111More likely Rivian will be around in the future than a lot of these legacy automakers. Rivian has good tech and are actually ahead of a lot of some legacy in EV sales or will soon pass them. And what vehicle has 10,000 fewer parts than a Rivian? Also it's usually a lot better not having to hassle with traditional dealerships. Tesla has shown that.

@zodiacfml 11 ай бұрын

Satisfying that companies I follow have CEOs that are engineers these days. Good luck to Rivian, I think the R1T is safe from the Cybertruck. I am more wary of Hyundai's EV9 vs the R1s

@dadrayropiak7782 11 ай бұрын

Just wondering, what happened to podcast with Kyle Conner ? Thanks

@MunroLive 11 ай бұрын

Kyle's episode will be out this week!

@rampagepb 11 ай бұрын

When will costs start to come down on these

@Random.Adventures. 7 ай бұрын

great CEO

@whatcouldgowrong2231 11 ай бұрын

Go RJ!!! Sandy drives a Rivian and so does his wife. Good enough for me.

@beautyisontheinside 11 ай бұрын

They should make a real life competition with all the different EV and ICE off-road vehicles. Everything else is just marketing speech unless you can show that your product is superior in real life off-road situations

@terrysullivan1992 11 ай бұрын

Sandy has had an AWD Rivian for awhile and has stated it's superiority to the Wrangler. Nuff said.

@GilmerJohn 11 ай бұрын

Well, since all the motors are controlled by a computer, it shouldn't be hard to make a cluch engage and disengage smoothly. They make it sould like new tech.

@sirgolfalot18 11 ай бұрын

LOL ... there are no clutch or gears in EV's .... Dude, really?

@TheMirrorVision 11 ай бұрын

Really great interview both in terms of Sandy’s questions and RJ’s answers.

@JulieSchwaiger 11 ай бұрын

So is it confirmwed then that ALL Rivians are towable four-down (behind a motorhome), or only the new dual motor configuration?

@JulieSchwaiger 11 ай бұрын

No one??

@jbr555s 9 ай бұрын

What about rear locker with dual motor??? Or any motor??

@imoldovann 11 ай бұрын

Today I learned that Clark Kent is the CEO of Rivian 😅

@stevmstng5165 11 ай бұрын

🇺🇸

@philflip1963 11 ай бұрын

What is Clarke Kent/Christopher Reeve doing on this podcast?

@sdinnz 11 ай бұрын

Why are people de-clutching (or disengaging), rather than simply using sprag clutches?

@ChicagoBob123 11 ай бұрын

Kinda wish they could build at scale and more affordable.

@wemakecookie 10 ай бұрын

They're ramping up to scale. It takes time, they are new. I guarantee prices will come down as they increase production. EV tech just keeps getting better and cheaper, it's great.

@GA-wq8xq 11 ай бұрын

The base model is 4.5 seconds, what has been tested is the dual performance model, not the base.

@stevebakker6884 11 ай бұрын

RJ kinda has a Clark Kent thing goin' on.

@chrisheath2637 11 ай бұрын

Remember Columbo ? Just when they think they've got away with it - Sandy fires a leading question, as if it's "off the cuff" - Sandy is looking for clues, and knows where to probe for engineering mis-steps, and where cost / manufacturing efficiencies can be made ....

@TabsT-vy5jy 11 ай бұрын

This guy looks just like clark kent

@sirgolfalot18 11 ай бұрын

Two of my favorites in the auto world

@WANDERER0070 11 ай бұрын

Man knows his stuff,now if only they could increase profitability

@dboyette42 11 ай бұрын

I want to hear from your wife get her on the show

@davidaxe7635 11 ай бұрын

RJ should mention Rivian by name a bit more as I didn’t really know what brand he was representing.

@jondiaz3475 11 ай бұрын

The flat prairie of Central Illinois over his shoulder was the only reason I knew. :)

@wemakecookie 10 ай бұрын

Read the title of the video you click on next time before you make silly comments.

@Iqtidar 11 ай бұрын

RJ Scaringe is the real-life Clark Kent

@shirolee 11 ай бұрын

Haha I was thinking the same thing!

@theycallmeshitty 11 ай бұрын

What happened to Corey

@1949lwd 11 ай бұрын

I like Scaringe and think he is next to Elon Musk in the top tier of EV makers (and a lot more likeable and reasonable than Elon!). My prediction is that Tesla and Rivian are going to be the two most successful player in the EV industry.

@cengeb 11 ай бұрын

Tests show Tesla underperforms estimates Despite his appointment being canceled, Ponsin brought his car to a service center in Santa Clara, California. He told Reuters that the visit "lasted 10 minutes" and that technicians "didn't even look at the car physically." A technician at the center told Ponsin his car was fine. Reuters was told by a source that Tesla recently stopped using the Nevada-based diversion team and instead now has range cases handled by "service advisors in an office in Utah." In April, Car and Driver reported that its testing showed Tesla "pursues an impressive figure for its window stickers, and ends up returning real-world results that are on average two times as far off the label value as most EVs." BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche "typically provide a relatively conservative range figure, allowing us to meet or even at times exceed the range numbers in Car and Driver's real-world tests." As a result, "400 miles of stated range for a Tesla and 300 miles for a Porsche is pretty much the same number at real highway speeds."

@cryptobrain4901 10 ай бұрын

He looks like Clark Kent 😅

@mrwhite5752 11 ай бұрын

Rivian has some run way still to go . If they could come out with this vehicle mid 2024 they might just make it .

@user-sw4rd1gb5r 11 ай бұрын

It's going to be delivered this summer...

@sirgolfalot18 11 ай бұрын

Maybe actually watch the video before commenting? They're already delivering the dual motor.

@burgerbirger2221 10 ай бұрын

Some PhD-ing from MIT-ing going on :p

@rogeroliver5083 11 ай бұрын

I’m sorry sandy but torque is lbs ft not ft lbs , ft lbs is work done

@sillystuff6247 11 ай бұрын

despite rivian's doubtful long-term survival, it's a treat to hear rj scaringe (who's almost as talented an engineer as elon musk) review design decisions with sandy. sadly, both rivian & ford are about to have their trucks steamrolled by cybertruck, which is more advanced but will sell for less.

@wmartonejr 11 ай бұрын

Not my favorite conversation. Has me wondering why Cory is stepping away.

@laloajuria4678 11 ай бұрын

glad to hear from rj. hate to see sandy.

@broli123 11 ай бұрын

RJ is a true MVP here unlike Elons grifts and riding on the credits of real engineers you can tell that RJ knows what hes talking about and keeps it real without making up vaporware like "full self driving" cars that can make you a profit within a year. I really love this guy for being so open, technical and honest.

@sat7755 11 ай бұрын

There is only a genius in the EV world his name is Elon, and so far no other genius has emerged yet. The Cyber truck will steam roll whatever Rivian will come up with. Do you want to bet? we talk again in about 24 months..

@lighthousesaunders7242 11 ай бұрын

Clueless comment.

@broli123 11 ай бұрын

@@lighthousesaunders7242 Thank you for your cluefull comment.

@joshuaw2143 11 ай бұрын

Bezos can pound sand.

@Resist4 11 ай бұрын

Now if only Rivian can get their stock moving so I can get my losses back.

@Resist4 11 ай бұрын

@@dmomcilovic9185 I never expected it to be the next Tesla, but they entered the EV truck market first and that counts for something.

@cengeb 11 ай бұрын

@solexxx8588 11 ай бұрын

Rivian has priced itself out of the mass market. Build a real truck. 0 to 60 is useless in a truck. Rivian will die if they don't make a affordable mass market truck in large volumes.