Nobody Has Anything Like This: Amprius Factory Tour

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Sandy visits the Amprius facility in Fremont, CA to learn about their manufacturing process, battery testing, and future plans.
Learn more about Amprius: amprius.com/
0:00 Intro
00:26 Anode Fabrication
06:44 Anodes at a Microscopic Scale
09:20 Battery Testing
11:21 Extreme Fast Charge Demonstration
16:48 Outro
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@jonkeau5155
@jonkeau5155 Жыл бұрын
I was able to track down an article about their independent testing, it’s between 200-1200 cycles before they hit 80% of new capacity depending on manufacturing defects, graphite batteries are 500-1000 cycles but these batteries have between 2-3 times the energy density and charge far faster! They are focusing on the aviation industry because energy density is far more important than longevity for them, and these batteries are good for a much wider range of temperatures. they can use that money to research ways to make it have higher cycle life so it can eventually be good enough for electric cars.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 Жыл бұрын
​@Adam I thought phones were very cost sensitive
@foobarrel9046
@foobarrel9046 Жыл бұрын
It may remain a little too good (i.e. expensive) for use in mass production cars for the foreseeable future. But that's ok, as LFP or Na-ion should also advance considerably in the next 5..10 years to fill that gap.
@Grimwyrd
@Grimwyrd Жыл бұрын
It's not 200-1200 cycles due to defects... they make a variety of cell types that they refer to as energy, power or blended that will have different cycle lives based on different uses. While they haven't announced the life cycles of their cells tuned towards EV or eVTOL use cases, they are submitting cells to the DoE's USABC advanced battery coalition study and plan to meet all requirements by 2025. If that succeeds, that means they believe they will have EV-style cells with >1000 cycle life and I've gotten the impression that they are already easily in the 600-800 range now and improving rapidly.
@jonkeau5155
@jonkeau5155 Жыл бұрын
@@foobarrel9046 oh yeah, I’m not saying it’s a bad thing at all, it’s got certain markets where it’s exactly what they need and want! It just seems most people jump straight to EV cars when they think of batteries, this just isn’t necessarily the best thing for that specific application *yet*
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering about post-aircraft “2nd life” applications, like stationary storage, vs (by then) competing chemistries.
@stephenwabaxter
@stephenwabaxter Жыл бұрын
Still feels like the California I knew from a visit back in the late 1980's - full of innovation, manufacturing capability and incredible people!
@chadfaulkner3600
@chadfaulkner3600 Жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again. This channel should be watched in every school across the country.
@catalinomocea6986
@catalinomocea6986 Жыл бұрын
I'll go one step farther... Maybe even in the whole world!
@Appalling68
@Appalling68 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the right-wing maga folks wouldn't approve of that. You know...science?
@willykang1293
@willykang1293 Жыл бұрын
It’s been across the globe already 😆
@mikehuff1601
@mikehuff1601 Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@hefeibao
@hefeibao Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Manufacturing is the heart of any economy, kids these days really need to be more aware of how this stuff works.
@kevtheobald
@kevtheobald Жыл бұрын
Love seeing battery tech tours, because the is the heart of the current transport revolution and green revolution. Hope to see more battery production tours and battery pack reviews by the Munro team.
@jimanderson4444
@jimanderson4444 Жыл бұрын
Well said Kevin!
@MasterChiefKamps
@MasterChiefKamps Жыл бұрын
absolutely agree! seeing the tech work is always so fascinating.
@gridjac
@gridjac Жыл бұрын
10C… wow. Megawatt charging, anyone? Thanks Sandy.. that was awesome. Can’t wait to watch them grow and scale up!
@4literv6
@4literv6 Жыл бұрын
Tesla is doing this on the semi already and nxu formerly atlis motor vehicles has demonstrated 1.3mw charging to.
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын
@@4literv6 But in a semi it's just over 1C...
@rkan2
@rkan2 Жыл бұрын
There are many cells you can charge at 10C for even hundreds of times... The problem is the heat and longevity with cooling limitations.
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын
@@rkan2 All hybrids have such cells. They're the problem is cost /kWh and Wh/kg energy density. At least new cells would offer cells good enough for PHEV and long range BEV. Will they be affordable enough to get into BEVs that normal people can afford, though?
@gridjac
@gridjac Жыл бұрын
@@rkan2 Thanks. Hopefully that’s something they figure out, because longevity is obviously an issue too.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew Жыл бұрын
Thank you Munro, much appreciated! Amprius appears to be off to a good start. Scale to manufacturing is always the question. It’ll be interesting to check in with these people in a few years.
@billhanna2148
@billhanna2148 Жыл бұрын
YEARS ?? try a few months
@ehlava
@ehlava Жыл бұрын
@@billhanna2148 why you think a few months? that giga factory not done until 2025, no?
@mikek8192
@mikek8192 Жыл бұрын
Getting to scale manufacturing is challenging. Kudos for these guys for putting in the work!
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Жыл бұрын
you cant scalewith this approach, only small scale, which is again, useless a luxury product just like all the others we have seen before
@brianbailey462
@brianbailey462 Жыл бұрын
​@@JohnSmith-pn2vlyou seriously believe this cannot be scaled? Get real
@ab3000x
@ab3000x Жыл бұрын
I knew a little about Amprius because of the claimed (and verified) energy density of their batteries but I didn't know that they could be charged so rapidly. Wow!
@LogixXtreme
@LogixXtreme Жыл бұрын
Import to mention, that Electric Plane startups like MAEVE (Netherlands) are using Amprius as their battery supplier for their planes. They are developing a 40+ seat electric plane for medium distances (< 400 km of flight) and recently unveiled their newest design.
@kailebparker
@kailebparker Жыл бұрын
So cool seeing Sandy here! I used to work in that Tesla plant and me and by friends would chill at lunch near a utility box in front of Amprius.
@MbT379
@MbT379 Жыл бұрын
Just incredible to see this industry develop and evolve.
@loaffloaff
@loaffloaff Жыл бұрын
That charge speed tho... from 0% with no pre-conditioning prior to charge. I realize this is not at scale and these batteries are expensive, but if this is a sign of what's possible in the near future, beating the time it takes at the pump would be incredible.
@grahamkearnon6682
@grahamkearnon6682 Жыл бұрын
Fossil fuel burning aero engines of any power are expensive, the price of these Batts to commercial operators will not be an issue.
@Grimwyrd
@Grimwyrd Жыл бұрын
@@banme2784 It's not 10 times and it's not trash. You're right to be skeptical, but there's no need to jump to a worst case assumption on a company that's been around for years. They already have commercial batteries in use by investor-customers like Airbus and AeroVironment.
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering about post-aircraft “2nd life” applications, like stationary storage, vs (by then) competing chemistries. Comments?
@Wordsmiths
@Wordsmiths Жыл бұрын
@@Crunch_dGH My thought too. Even if the energy density falls by half, if the charge time is still so fast, and the discharge current is still pretty strong, the "used up" batteries could be very useful in lots of other applications...
@r.a.monigold9789
@r.a.monigold9789 Жыл бұрын
Like watching Merlin bring forth a dragon - this is AMAZING. Rarely do "we" get to watch history put on running shoes and sprint into the future. This is one of those occasions. I thank ALL involved in assembling these technological breakthroughs into a viable product. And thanks to MUNRO LIVE for sharing. So many uses, the mind races. Exciting !
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
🙋‍♂️THANKS SANDY, CORY and the MUNRO TEAM for sharing this INTERESTING INFO 🧐💚💚💚
@nononsenseBennett
@nononsenseBennett Жыл бұрын
Refreshing to see high tech manufacturing in the USA!
@billholder1330
@billholder1330 Жыл бұрын
Yeah good to see it's not just Tesla, others are jumping in the game!
@themonsterunderyourbed9408
@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, once everything is figured out, then they'll move manufacturing to China. Use the talent and government grants from USA and send the jobs over to China. Globalism is great isn't it?!
@Gcanno
@Gcanno Жыл бұрын
A Tremendous Amount Is Invented Here With Taxpayer Funds Contributing Only To Have Corporations Manufacture Somewhere Else Look Up How Much Gov Money Amprius Received .
@farzyness
@farzyness Жыл бұрын
The timing of “You know what that means” and the Model Y driving by is ridiculous lol
@therJrep
@therJrep Жыл бұрын
Yooo 😂😂
@MrBigShotFancyPants
@MrBigShotFancyPants Жыл бұрын
Didn't even notice though I m going to look back at it. I was looking for familiar territory from when I lived in Willow Glen but Ford's had the Fremont final assembly plant the last time I lived there LOL Having grown up in the Detroit area it was funny to move to Bay Area and see a darn Ford plant.
@gattaca5911
@gattaca5911 Жыл бұрын
@@banme2784 still going with whataboutism?....lol....what about the power grid, charging stations, rolling blackouts, burst into flames, running over children......
@RJ-nk9wb
@RJ-nk9wb Жыл бұрын
Sandy is a classic! Munro live is always very interesting.😊 Thanks
@jimanderson4444
@jimanderson4444 Жыл бұрын
Go Sandy, keeping up with this technology is the inspiration of motivation !
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
@eugeniustheodidactus8890 Жыл бұрын
♥ *Well done AMPRIUS!* _You too, Sandy._ 😎
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil Жыл бұрын
I like these tours, it gives Munro Live more video diversity, even though I am a fan of the teardown videos, watching too many of them continuously becomes tedious. great tour, great facility.
@proximoAZ
@proximoAZ Жыл бұрын
Enovix is also in Fremont, and they have an all silicon anode with no nano wires. They can also fast charge at about the same speed, have better thermal properties, and easier manufacturing and lower cost. They are the battery leader in the US, although they are currently concentrating on batteries for Consumer Electronics, but they also do have a program for EV batteries.
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering about post-aircraft “2nd life” applications, like stationary storage, vs (by then) competing chemistries. Comments?
@commonsense4148
@commonsense4148 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but do they have an aero environment contract?
@ehlava
@ehlava Жыл бұрын
is Enovix building a giga factory like these guys are?
@proximoAZ
@proximoAZ Жыл бұрын
@@ehlava yes. In Malaysia. Major production starts next year. Samsung likely to be biggest customer.
@ehlava
@ehlava Жыл бұрын
@@proximoAZ both these companies look good, both going giga. if each of them can get product to market both will be succesful. wonder if either will have supply issues.
@tudole
@tudole Жыл бұрын
I am in the eVTOL industry. This will power up the future of electric flight! Thank you Munro Live!
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering about post-aircraft “2nd life” applications, like stationary storage, vs (by then) competing chemistries. Comments?
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Жыл бұрын
how, this hasnt the density, no this is another nothingburger
@john_in_phoenix
@john_in_phoenix Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to me, since I have been doing a lot of cell testing of LFP cells for energy storage (mainly to track degradation and thus cycle life). The density they are getting and charge rates are impressive.
@GuyFromGeorgia
@GuyFromGeorgia Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sandy. Cool to see 'how' they are doing it. Wish I understood why they think their way is 'the way' to achieve elongated battery power and life. Looks like what we need to assign you to do is assemble a 'battery expert' panel; people who know what's going on and can ELI5 the reasons for moving forward in whatever directions the various manufacturers are moving. Funny, I invested a few dollars in AMPX upon your 'breaking news' segment a month ago. Now I can't wait to learn more about them and the industry in which it operates. Battery potential will lead the way moving forward, for sure. ALSO- right across the street from Tesla's battery plant? WTF? Ha! I gotta think, as 'turn on a dime' as Tesla is when it comes to improving its processes and products, if Amprius has anything of value to offer, Tesla has already found a way to incorporate it. Yes? No?
@ingoa.3231
@ingoa.3231 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us the future! I'd said to many people in the past that the e-mobility is right at the beginning. The battery-story is starting right now and the end you can't imagine. Nice to see this post which come from the future, doesn't it? Gratings from Germany!
@troyboy4345
@troyboy4345 Жыл бұрын
Mind blown .... and such an insight of expertise from around the world to save said world ... brilliant !
@jamesjones2212
@jamesjones2212 Жыл бұрын
Using CVD as basically a mechanism of doping is nothing short of absolutely brilliant. The elephant in the room is scaling. The amount of energy and time it will take to scale this would be astronomical.
@cesariolucas2
@cesariolucas2 Жыл бұрын
"This is one-of-a-kind, and there are TWO of them" :)
@rossr6616
@rossr6616 Жыл бұрын
that’s called a two-fur…nace
@auridiamondiferous
@auridiamondiferous Жыл бұрын
Amprius is a company that specializes in the development and manufacture of advanced lithium-ion batteries. The company was founded in 2008 as a spin-off from Stanford University, and its technology is based on research into high-capacity silicon nanowire anodes for lithium-ion batteries.
@MarioDallaRiva
@MarioDallaRiva Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thx Munro Live for sharing your tour.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@HydrogenFuelTechnologies
@HydrogenFuelTechnologies Жыл бұрын
​​@@MunroLiveYeah thanks for the tour of one of naziCalifornias finest battery manufacturers and technologies 😀 👌 Now when are you gonna visit a gravity propulsion lab or a quantum hydrogen fusion reactor lab? The nazis seem to like you, to be sure you'd get a invite from classified aerospace. 😅
@philborer877
@philborer877 Жыл бұрын
God I love these new techs coming into play in my lifetime. Thank you Munro live!!!!!😁
@im4udevco
@im4udevco Жыл бұрын
You got me on that. Didn't know that Amprius is literally right next to Tesla in Fremont. Very fascinating on the raw talent we have in the US and you guys are shining a light on this. I've learned so much from Munro Live and thanks for this. Absolutely incredible.
@JohnnyBoy6323
@JohnnyBoy6323 Жыл бұрын
That was deceiving. The plant is much further away. There are two smaller Tesla sites near Amprius. The Tesla Fremont factory is almost three times closer to Enovix, but whatever makes for a good story 🤷‍♂️
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 Жыл бұрын
Of course, just after Sandy provided us with the short trailer for this Amprius video, and showing this, CATL announced a 500Wh/kg battery which they are about to put, or already are, in production. It seems that battery chemistry tech is galloping along now. This is all tremendously exciting stuff.
@georgepelton5645
@georgepelton5645 Жыл бұрын
Thank to Munro Asso and Amprius for this fascinating factory tour! This combination of high specific energy and extremely fast charging should enable electric aviation and other applications.
@FoamyDave
@FoamyDave Жыл бұрын
0% to 80% in 6 min is very impressive. Assuming this scales up well into a full pack configuration, it bodes well for the future.
@ZesPak
@ZesPak Жыл бұрын
As long as you can keep it cool in a big pack, one pouch or a full pack wouldn't make a difference. As long as you can provide the power to charge all the pouches at the same time though!
@ag135i
@ag135i Жыл бұрын
You are doing an awesome job Sandy, kudos.
@robbierolla
@robbierolla Жыл бұрын
"these are one of a kind.... and there's two of them". Great tour, and I can't help but like pleasant intelligent people.
@danneil8778
@danneil8778 Жыл бұрын
thanks, Sandy and team.
@AcmePotatoPackingPocatello
@AcmePotatoPackingPocatello Жыл бұрын
Interesting information. Relevant to anyone considering purchase of the stock. Sandy Munro isn't biased by Wall Street shenanigans. An engineer's perspective.
@KonVekT
@KonVekT Жыл бұрын
6 mins from 0 to 80% is pretty nice. I wonder how long the life of these batteries comes out to be.
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Жыл бұрын
yea we have seen this many many many times now, they chasing dogs. useless tech nobody needs. whats needed is isnane amounts, thats it. every battery technology is good enough, we dont need more capacity or faster charging, we simply need more batteries, insanely more, like ,insanely squared
@spareful97
@spareful97 Жыл бұрын
If they can control the cooling, it should be just as long as other comparable batteries. Though I wonder if they have to deal with any expansion issues when the battery charges and discharges.
@rb8049
@rb8049 Жыл бұрын
How many cycles can it do?
@justinmallaiz4549
@justinmallaiz4549 Жыл бұрын
This please☝️Half truths are unimpressive. My first car (a bobcat) went 0-60 mph in 2.7 seconds - (when pushed of a cliff)
@Onwurst
@Onwurst Жыл бұрын
They did an interview earlier on the channel. It doesn’t degrade because the battery does not build dendrites.
@jonkeau5155
@jonkeau5155 Жыл бұрын
I was able to track down an article about their independent testing, it’s between 200-1200 cycles depending on manufacturing defects, graphite batteries are 500-1000 cycles but these batteries have between 2-3 times the energy density! They are focusing on the aviation industry because energy density is far more important than longevity for them, and these batteries are good for a much wider range of temperatures. they can use that money to research ways to make it have higher cycle life so it can eventually be good enough for electric cars.
@gattaca5911
@gattaca5911 Жыл бұрын
@@banme2784 yeah....perhaps that is not really Sandy talking but an AI rendering of him....workshop your conspiracy lol....
@heinvervoort
@heinvervoort Жыл бұрын
​@@Onwurstis it 100% solid state or semi solid?
@fred993a
@fred993a Жыл бұрын
Sandy - I appreciate you more than you know. Thank you.
@hal3137
@hal3137 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work team . Enjoyed the video.
@KyleHubb
@KyleHubb Жыл бұрын
Intro was hilarious. lol
@JarmelSingsKaraoke
@JarmelSingsKaraoke Жыл бұрын
Welcome back to the bay ✌️....Love the Show .... HOPE EVERYONE HAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY...
@jespermadsen8528
@jespermadsen8528 Жыл бұрын
I'm very impressed. Thanks so much Sandy
@jbarvideo12
@jbarvideo12 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sandy for sharing with us Amprius' manufacturing EV battery process and testing.
@mikeconnery4652
@mikeconnery4652 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive thanks for the tour.
@HughMcBrideDonegalFlyer
@HughMcBrideDonegalFlyer Жыл бұрын
this is Great Sandy, Would loved to have been there, looking over your shoulder , so many questions... So exciting
@Daru002
@Daru002 Жыл бұрын
ANother video that no one else has provided. Doing great work Sandy.
@cornelio2u
@cornelio2u Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sandy! You are the best!
@miguelceja88
@miguelceja88 Жыл бұрын
he got me so bad with that introoooo love everyone at Munro for sharing more
@PattyBryant-mh4dd
@PattyBryant-mh4dd Жыл бұрын
Very Intresting, Took the Tour also Via Video this Morning ☕️ Super Great 💛 Mr. Monroe Seems Very Impressed!! ANOTHER GD Day!! ☀️☀️
@kerbsidemotors9249
@kerbsidemotors9249 Жыл бұрын
Mithun if I have spelt correctly, looks like guy you want on your team. Not the most exciting job-but critical for performance. Unsung hero👍
@AraCarrano
@AraCarrano Жыл бұрын
The warning labels on the test jig, "Non-Professionals Do Not Open". Classic
@vinodpund1574
@vinodpund1574 Жыл бұрын
interesting factory visit , great to know practical information about battery thank you
@MrCPPG
@MrCPPG Жыл бұрын
Even if the packs are initially more expensive, they will still work for aviation as their gravimetric densities are industry leading. There were questions I would have asked: Is this LFP? Or what chemistry. Will standard BMS work with these cell? Beyond the prototype assembly line, what is the timeline to scale? Are they working with any partners?
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Жыл бұрын
this aint leading in anything sorry, and the manufacturing is the old way, absolutely terrible, impossible to compete or scale to anything meaningfull. its the same old , same old. nothing to see here. this aint good enough for aviation, just another nothingburger. you can make some lucids and some eqs luxury cars with this. if at all, we dont know the important metrics. nothing meaningful.
@MrCPPG
@MrCPPG Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl That line was clearly a beta prototype. When Sandy first met with them, it was all theoretical, now they have shown and end to end beta. They can solve the manufacturing at volume by partnering. At 450 Wh/kg they have something better than what we have today. Elon Musk estimated about 300 to 350 Wh/kg needed for aviation.
@jamesrose1191
@jamesrose1191 Жыл бұрын
Great video and I look forward to a great future for Amprius Tech.
@JohnSmith-pn2vl
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Жыл бұрын
why do people have 0 clue about anything and think this is something, holy crap, unbelievable. this is nothing, at all. meaningless tech that serves nothing. this addresses nothing.
@DaneDuPlessis
@DaneDuPlessis Жыл бұрын
Fantastic facility. Very excited to see this technology proliferate. And great to see that it's happening in the USA.
@jrb_sland5066
@jrb_sland5066 Жыл бұрын
We are living in a great time to be alive ! I was born in 1948, a few months after Bell Labs reported their invention of the point-contact transistor, & I grew up in a small agricultural town living on my parents' apple & pear orchard. As a prepubescent boy, I brought 1930s-vintage vacuum-tube radios home from the local garbage dump {long before they acquired barbed-wire fences & the name "landfill"} & got them running again. That was the start of my electronics career. A high-school buddy & I bought our first transistors {2N107s & 2N170s} in 1963 by very slow mail order from Allied Radio in NYC to build our first TRF quasi-crystal-set battery-powered radios. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away ! Now retired, I have my name etched into circuit boards residing in pressure cases on the floor of both the Atlantic & Pacific Oceans measuring deep-ocean water pressure, as well as in magnetometer instruments in a now-defunct small Canadian science satellite in a polar orbit around the Earth. What a ride ! Thank you, Munro & Associates, for a wonderful walk-through of a bleeding edge American battery plant. More, please, I beg you !
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 Жыл бұрын
So Wise . Thank You for You're part in developing stuff
@williewalker8048
@williewalker8048 Жыл бұрын
That charging speed was almost as quick as filling up an ICE vehicle. Bring this to scale and say good-by to long wait times to charge your EV. Very impressive. Thanks, Munro!
@Tazdeviloo7
@Tazdeviloo7 7 ай бұрын
It's almost hard to imagine. You'll need some serious infrastructure for that kinda power, but it's only really needed off highways so I could see it happening
@jaydeister9305
@jaydeister9305 Жыл бұрын
Another great video from Sandy Munro/Munro Live!
@rb8049
@rb8049 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@lg1355
@lg1355 Жыл бұрын
Really freaking impressive! Exciting times.
@davids8345
@davids8345 Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating, but I wish there was an intro video because I felt like I came into a conversation half way through.
@jasonbirchoff2605
@jasonbirchoff2605 Жыл бұрын
Believe there are earlier videos where more stuff is covered.
@MrAdopado
@MrAdopado Жыл бұрын
Amprius have a website. Also more stuff on KZfaq.
@foobarrel9046
@foobarrel9046 Жыл бұрын
Yep, 0..80% SoC at 10C in 6 minutes flat is astounding for a cell with 370Wh/kg energy density. CVD is expensive but if the oven process to grow nanowire layers can scale economically then this should be revolutionary.
@Doctorbasss
@Doctorbasss Жыл бұрын
Yhat what A123 systems did with nanosulfate cells about 15 years ago
@foobarrel9046
@foobarrel9046 Жыл бұрын
@@Doctorbasss Maybe that's why they went bankrupt & were sold for a song? Too early for anyone to believe, yes?
@chiplogan4984
@chiplogan4984 Жыл бұрын
Sandy. As a newbie a bit of a lead in to know what we are looking at and why would have been helpful. Had to read the comments to understand what is going on. But thanks!
@aware2action
@aware2action Жыл бұрын
Nano wire sponge cool❤. Possibilities are only limited by imagination, definitely a takeover target for use in Optimus and long range EVs(with improvement in vibration resistance and high capacity charging). Cooling could be novel too, Imagine dunking the nano wires sponge, in flood filled coolant trays, on demand. Just some thoughts.... Special thanks to Sandy and Cory for bringing this exclusive content👍👍.
@joffrecamacho5086
@joffrecamacho5086 Жыл бұрын
Great content Sandy, TY
@TheKencmh
@TheKencmh Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👌 Scale as quickly as possible
@cengeb
@cengeb Жыл бұрын
Sandi is always impressed, and he doesn't even know what he is looking at!!! Always entertaining,
@dscarty
@dscarty Жыл бұрын
I worked in silicon fab for 25 years (in Mtn, View, CA by the way). With deposition this looks remarkably similar.
@IamGoen
@IamGoen Жыл бұрын
First heard of Amprius from the Electric Viking, awesome to see Sandy Munroe get excited about this.
@radart6037
@radart6037 Жыл бұрын
Yes he did a video on this company and their 500Wh/kg battery a year ago.
@CraigOverend
@CraigOverend Жыл бұрын
The nail penetration test on the Amprius KZfaq channel is also very impressive.
@davincisghost9228
@davincisghost9228 Жыл бұрын
Seriously cool. Thank you.
@donaldwright7194
@donaldwright7194 Жыл бұрын
Great tour and video. These must be very small cells if 10C is 27A. This is why the SOC% goes up so fast. Rough estimates (if my math is right): if we estimate that 0-80% was 6 minutes @27A (10C), this calculates to about a 3.3Ah cell. Just for reference, the Mustang Mach-E cells from previous videos are about 70Ah each...so 20x bigger.
@csf1757
@csf1757 Жыл бұрын
I think I recall that the original Tesla 18650 cells, 2012, were 3.3Ah. If so, then their capacity is about equal to a 18650
@tatradak9781
@tatradak9781 Жыл бұрын
It's always great to read knowledgeable comments.. Thx
@Vxiong111
@Vxiong111 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Thank You! Sounds like the GOOD is high power density and fast charging time, the BAD is high cost and low cycle life. Could be a good fit for aircrafts, if the batteries are easily swappable like NIO in the auto industry?
@netgnostic1627
@netgnostic1627 Жыл бұрын
Even if they're initially expensive, I doubt they're too expensive for the supercar and hypercar markets. A manufacturer that wants to keep the car light would be interested for sure.
@arnoldsmith5754
@arnoldsmith5754 Жыл бұрын
amazing tech development great video
@kevtheobald
@kevtheobald Жыл бұрын
I hope with Canada getting the China made Model Y LR with the lower cost battery packs that Munro''s team gets one in for a full review and rip it apart for the deep dive examination. Maybe a Model Y have a car insurance company sponsor the series. Munro Live has a good size audience that should appeal to many companies. Back in the early 2000's I worked for TechTV Television Network and we has small audience, but highly tech nerd focused, which certain companies struggled to reach, thus TechTV was like gold to these companies. I believe Munro Live has a unique audience and will likely be reaching people that traditional channels or media do not normally reach. I hope your team is able to get packages put together to bring on more sponsors so we can get more content. Keep up the great work.
@ronexus
@ronexus Жыл бұрын
Nice the see the SMIT and Centrotherm lines at work there👌
@energyeve2152
@energyeve2152 8 ай бұрын
Amprius is legit. Wow, such praise by Munro.
@henryD9363
@henryD9363 Жыл бұрын
There's an Amprius PDF presentation that they gave to NASA. The battery technology has very high density, almost twice that of current carbon anodes, and a very fast charge time. This was demonstrated in the video. But the number of charge cycles is troubling. From about 80 to 200 cycles. Amprius batteries with significantly less capacity reach almost 600 cycles. Tesla lithium bats provide about 1,500 cycles. You may notice that this significant parameter of a rechargeable battery, cycle count, was not discussed at all. And Sandy didn't ask.
@zachansen8293
@zachansen8293 Жыл бұрын
they say: "we are ready to scale up" I hear: "we have no idea how hard that is going to be" They've done 5% of the work so far.
@frankhage1734
@frankhage1734 Жыл бұрын
However, unless you believe it can be done, no one will even try. We software engineers always joked; when we think we are 90% done we really have 90% remaining.
@Wordsmiths
@Wordsmiths Жыл бұрын
@@frankhage1734 You're right, though: thinking you're almost there provides a huge amount of motivation to push through that stubborn "last ten percent". We see this in the rocket industry all the time.
@Bmwstephen
@Bmwstephen Жыл бұрын
dangit I just missed out an opportunity to meet Munro! bay area guy here and big fan!
@1944chevytruck
@1944chevytruck Жыл бұрын
AWESOME!
@LiiMuRi
@LiiMuRi Жыл бұрын
As a material's chemist, I was left wishing for someone a bit more familiar with the topic to do the interviews and make more questions. The setup seems quite interesting, but they didn't give a lot of details (I can understand why, trade secrets and so on).
@paulhortonatcoxnet
@paulhortonatcoxnet Жыл бұрын
That was good!
@DaveBoxBG
@DaveBoxBG Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@chantzsch3916
@chantzsch3916 Жыл бұрын
it's funny that we continue to talk about not wanting to go to 100% charge so we're left with a usable of 80-90%. Why isn't it reframed to 100% with a built-in buffer of x%. Would seem to simplify the understanding for more people. Charging apps would be written to go the non buffer 100% state.
@justinmallaiz4549
@justinmallaiz4549 Жыл бұрын
Someone has to pick upper and lower limits somewhere, to balance expectations (lifespan, performance, safety) … a product being more dummy proof also means trading off more range, weight, performance, cost, charging time etc
@MostViewedTop40
@MostViewedTop40 Жыл бұрын
How fast does the anode go through the reel to reel process since vapour deposition is super super slow? How many years away are they from moving to production? I imagine they invited Sandy to get interest, to get money for scale up or further development. How much will they cost relative to current cells. ....Presumably a lot more expensive and at the start they'll just be for niche applications.
@Grimwyrd
@Grimwyrd Жыл бұрын
The greatest part about Amprius is that all these gains are basically at the anode level. They will be able to combine their anode gains with advanced cathodes and separators to really shine.
@theonebucketlist
@theonebucketlist Жыл бұрын
I‘ve known of the Amprius technology for some years through my work in the battery industry. I wonder what the cycle life with such fast charging is now for them?
@N0N0111
@N0N0111 Жыл бұрын
7:38 Baby ruperts! Excellent science!
@GkPhotographic
@GkPhotographic Жыл бұрын
your a hard man to impress Sandy ,so the whole thing is impressive , good job. how long will this tech take to get down to street level ? be safe from Dublin, Eire.
@foobarrel9046
@foobarrel9046 Жыл бұрын
I'd say 5 years minimum to appear in an iPhone or something similar. Probably won't be competitive for BEV in the next 10. That's if there is no major hitch in scaling to an economical production process.
@agoogler1887
@agoogler1887 Жыл бұрын
Good program Sandy 🤓
@alex135789
@alex135789 Жыл бұрын
OMG! Just checked their website. Seems legit. Thank you for always bringing interesting info to the masses. Tesla should buy them out before they go public.
@tatradak9781
@tatradak9781 Жыл бұрын
Tesla definitely shouldn't buy them out, look at Maxwell, ultra capacitor knowledge buried.. Elon has a habit of pricing out the competition, he's becoming a bit of an Edison..
@matteoricci9129
@matteoricci9129 Жыл бұрын
Just the intro earned the like
@jamesh318
@jamesh318 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@frenchonion4595
@frenchonion4595 Жыл бұрын
The big limit to traditional batteries charging time is heat build up. Graphine allows electrons to pass through unimpeded reducing friction between the electron atoms
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