hiii

love you

Love all what you do pls keep the good work

Love you all the way from Texas

you think you could do the case of Gabriela Lima Santana

Seriously!

It’s the uk for you because you need proof of your disability or mental health if you don’t it’s very hard and the system is fucked

That’s such a good point. Unfortunately, it’s the same thing here in the U.S., as well. My niece has the same problem Gemma had. No one is any more important than anyone else.

YESSSSS!!! The 5 that have Gemma's blood on their hands do NOT deserve to be taken care of ... they deserve to be put to work from dawn til dusk working their asses off to where they are so tired .. they have to choose whether they want to use their energy to shower/ eat or jus fall into their HARD bed, they do not even deserve a proper cushioned bed, or any fancy meals... BARE MINIMUM living is what they deserve and they should have to work their asses off for what little they earn to survive..

:(

When people like Gypsy Rose‘s mother exist, phrases like that are needed

@@Storymaker1316 it’s a true true shame that the one called an attention seeker was the one who needed help and the one receiving an immense amount of help didn’t get caught out. Absolutely horrible

Obnoxious?

@@BOSTON508 ?

Doctors, especially those who specialise really don't like being told they're not doing their job properly, even when they aren't which was unfortunately the case here, I hope yhis wasn't Birmingham Children's hospital that failed her bc that would be very unusual, they were amazing with my granddaughter, if she wasn't referred there she should've been, poor mom, poor family, I hate that these kind of ppl exist in this world, taking advantage of a vulnerable young woman lune that, I hope they get everything they deserve in jail

Thank you for this I’m an essay editor and I’ve been looking for alternate and more sensitive phrasing in this regard!

A shorter term that I was taught at uni was referring to these kids as "low" which is a shorter version of "on a lower developmental level". So a kid could be emotionally low, physically low, or cognitively low. There was an actual scale, that I can't remember because I dropped that course half way through, but it was a shorthand to tell other adults without other kids knowing what they're talking about. Low didn't refer to disabilities, so you wouldn't describe a kid in a wheelchair, or someone with ADHD as low, because that's a different thing. It was just for people who were on a lower level of development in a particular category, for any reason. It could be the result of a disability, mental health, the conditions of their childhood, or really anything. I just foud the single word a lot easier to have conversations about a child that needs extra support without all the other kids finding out and making a big deal over it. Does that make sense? I dunno. Just another term I was taught.

At my job, we use the phrase “demonstrating age regression” or developmentally delayed

@@kaylahridley4295 isn’t age regression consciously reverting back to adolescent behavior as a coping mechanism rather than being involuntarily developmentally delayed? If that’s wrong please let me know!

Jesus who are y'all trying to not offend? If they are developmentally delayed they don't care about which term you use. Bunch of ❄️ flakes trying to not offend each other. This is the biggest waste of space of the Internet that I've ever seen right here, this comment thread.

"For some reason"? What do you mean?

@@MidnightMuffin when someone says that, it means they don't know the reason or don't know how to articulate them. Pointless to ask why. Some cases get to me more than others and I don't always know why.

@@MidnightMuffin Me too, honestly. Usually, I just listen to these cases and just kinda stomach it. But this one really really hurt to listen to and I was almost brought to tears. Maybe because it's more common that just a murder and I mean that in the sense that all disabled people struggle in this world one way or another and it fucking sucks. I tried to put my feelings into words as best as I can, I don't know how this comes across.

it was so sad seeing her walking behind them 💔

I felt so bad watchin her walk behind, So heartbreaking, not knowing she follows a pack of wolves.. Am sry this happened to you sweetheart may your soul rest in peace..!! And for the rest of these wolves.. YOU WILL BE HUNTED ONE BY ONE IF NOT YOU.. YOUR GENERATION WILL BE HUNTED TILL THERE IS NOTHIN LEFT IN YOUR MISRABLE LIFELINE..!! GUTTER BORNS..

I dont even know why they did it. I mean, I know they didnt consider her human. As horrible as that it, what I dont understand is if she was a regular source of money for these people, why kill her? These people are so disgusting and stupid.

I know! It’s horrible and I have no words. I just wanna curse honestly. Like fuck fuck fuckkkk how could they do that to her!!😭😭

I'm actually fuming listening to this story. There's a special place of hell for these fuckers.

It's honestly very upsetting. My brother and I have very similar dispositions and my mother took my brother to the doctor and got him diagnosed with ADHD but says all my issues stem from being a teenage girl. I don't think I have ADHD but I've had waaay to many sensory overloads and meltdowns to be brushed off.

@@unclewiley1986 I hear you. They refused to diagnose me with dyslexia because I’m hardcore ADHD and I just needed medication and boy was that fun.

So true, I have noonan syndrome and all my life they have told me they only thought boys could get it... obviously it's better now but as a child in the early 90s, all the research was around boys with the condition and not girls.

Super Cali I’m sorry that happened to you. I don’t know how people with dyslexia make it through school without the proper support. Research also shows that many people who have dyslexia also have ADHD

i’ve never really thought about that, and it makes sooo much sense to why i can’t get a solid diagnosis

That’s so sad 💔

😢😢😢😢 the "just playing with my friends" made me tear up! Duddddeee

That’s awful. We need to be watching out for people who are vulnerable. I hope that if I’m ever confronted with a situation like this that I won’t look the other way, but will actually do something.

I’m glad to know I’m not alone in thinking people are my friends and realizes years later that I was being manipulated. I have asd too and I just really appreciate what you said because it makes me feel less alone.

As someone with asd it took me half of my life learning (also from books) how to exist in social circles without harming anyone unconsciously (by being too blunt ect) before it occured to me that I also should figure out how to tell if somebody is hurtfull to me. So yeah. As sad as it is, we're easy targets, but with proper help that this poor girl was lacking it can get better. And it could for her, had she had the help😭

I'm in the process of getting a diagnosis, I had a large variety of friends but it's confusing because I'd be made fun of or left out, on ocassions they'd discuss birthday parties and who they were inviting etc. to me, I wasn't invited despite thinking that we were really good friemds, Id also had friends that were nice to me but then when someone else showed up they're constantly make fun of me.

Excuse my spelling

I can't imagine how hard it is I struggle to make friends I had one best friend from 5 years to 16 and it turned out she was using me the whole time. People tried to tell me but I couldn't see it and honestly I was scared as my only friends where her friends and I didn't want to be alone . I then went from 16 to 25 with no friends and not a great relationship with my family either, I have been told I'm weird and people have assumed I am autistic or have ADHD or something and as far as I'm aware I don't have. Luckily I've had a boyfriend for 5 years now who loves me for who I am and loves that I'm different.

havent watched the full video yet but this comment. This girl legit had friends and prolly thought they where "real" friends, but nah. Literally murdered by them. watch who you hang out with i guess

She should've just looked online, there are a lot of safer friendships you can make across the planet. 😅

I think it’s called “pack mentality”. Can’t even begin to imagine what this poor woman went through at the hands of those animals 😔🥺😢😭.

@@alysongray6311 “If your friends jumped of a cliff, would you do it too?!” “Yes.” - these guys, probably.

Birds of a feather they say.

@@HannahU10 It’s pack mentality, it’s proven to happen when a group of people are together. They will do things they’d never do individually or alone. It’s a really interesting psychology honestly.

@@BelgraviaTottie yeah they have done some studies proving that haven’t they

I was a shy and more of an introvert in childhood.. and this literally scarred my early personality growing up .. my own cousin would bully me for being such a sour n bland personality... N often addressed me as *Looser* teachers were no help either often taunting for my average IQ n inability to perform well.. took a lot of time to get over that phase and get my confidence back..

Same. I’m 36 & it takes me forever to trust ppl cause I’m so traumatized from past abusive relationships cause I always give ppl the benefit of the doubt & when I was a kid girls didn’t have autism like I got an adhd diagnosis only and didn’t find out I was autistic until I was in my 30s but suddenly my whole life made sense.

​@@witchcraftandlizardry I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I try to teach myself everyday about empathy and how much we lack it, it's something that never leaves my mind. I'm just so sorry that the medical profession failed you in your early years.

Yeah I'm autistic too but most of my friends are as well and we are all autistic together.

I have Asperger’s syndrome, which basically means I’m a high functioning autistic person. In most cases I can function like a “normal” person, but still have my weird moments. As a result of being on the spectrum, I’m sensitive to loud sounds, bright lights, people touching me, certain smells, and certain tastes. People used to make fun of me a lot because I would get scared at the sound of ambulance or police sirens that were really close to our school’s playground. They’d also make fun of me for being annoyed at the fire alarm in the school because it was loud. Other students would randomly tap me on the shoulder or rub up against my arm on purpose because they knew I hated it. The teachers actually tried to do everything they could to help, going as far as calling up these other students’ parents and having them apologize to my mom and I directly, but the next day they’d go back to being assholes and bullying me. As I got older and went through middle and high school, I had trust issues. I dated a girl whom I thought liked me, but she was simply dating me because her friends made a dare with her to do it. That’s when I put up an emotional wall and haven’t accepted new friends in a long time. I only keep in contact with two of my friends now and only with close family. I don’t trust people outside of my two friends and immediate close family members.

Love this comment !!

I’ve heard that you should call them people with disabilities so you humanise them first as people naturally then add the fact that they have a disability x

@@jjpopez ho hun, i’m a person with disabilities and being called a disabled person isn’t for me. it’s dehumanising towards me. so don’t u dare say what’s not dehumanising to others

@@alexandrahenry9367 yeah everyone knows to humanise humans. it’s the internalised ableism that makes people uncomfortable and they have to remind themselves that we are human by using this language :’)

@@anastasiahayes1616 “most disabled people”. which is true, luv.

honestly

Absolutely horrible 😞 Poor girl. Hopefully she is at peace and in a beautiful place 💜 And that the people who were involved in letting this child down in any way get what they deserve 🙏❤.

disgusting, she deserved so much better

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@taya there’s the internet? and just because it’s wasn’t “that’s bad” to you, doesn’t mean it wasn’t to other people. just watch the video and listen to gemma’s story.

I really don't know. They might have been born like that or picked up those views and tendencies from their parents or people around them.

They may have just made the choice between good and bad.

I think there are different levels of evil in an evil group. Some are just followers. If they hadn’t gotten mixed up with the others, they would have lived a normal life. They are clearly lacking in empathy and courage, but they wouldn’t actively seek to hurt someone on their own. If they had some good role models, maybe they’d even become decent people. But the leaders in the group would always attract other evil people and would have always found a victim. They’re just evil. I hope most of these people never get out of prison.

bet it haunts that bouncer as well

@@NajwyzszaKaplanka never said it wasn't. It's disgusting what they did.

@@divinevalentineyt I replied to your comment during watching the video so at that point i didn't know this recording was from the following day, sorry

literally

Let’s face it…her family kind of failed her, too. I hate to say that…I know they loved her…but it’s pretty evident in this case. Unless I’ve missed something here.

@@CMinorOp67 I kinda agree, but I don’t blame them too much. They were probably incredibly tired

@@CMinorOp67 you should watch this case on the Britain's Darkest Taboos, her family loved her very much and yes her brother said that he didn't know how to care for her and should of been there more, also said he wanted to be left in a room with each one of the killers. Anyway, if professionals weren't going to help her, how are her family meant to know how to help her? Believe me being autistic and after my diagnosis my family had to basically relearn how to parent me when young and in turn support me when I became an adult, and they only learned how through the help of professionals because they cared about me, unfortunately the professionals didn't care about Gemma enough, so they let her and her family down

System is what failed in their trash diagnosis.. they didn’t give her what she needed which was a diagnosis..

Deuce Phillips tbh the family have some responsibility, having disabled family members I know for a fact if they were living in a place like that they would be round at my house within minutes, and they wouldn’t be returning. It’s obviously not their fault what happened and the system failed her, but the family did have responsibilities too

Thank-you for supporting somebody else and having a good heart. 💚

I know this is kinda old but for anyone reading this, just look out for people, call other people out if they say something dumb. The herd/mob mentality is usually a lot easier to counter than it might seem. You'll usually be surprised at how it turns around and other people back you up instead of people talking shit. A lot of times people just won't say anything until someone else does. There's more decent humans than terrible ones. And we may just say something without thinking. Check them and they'll feel bad. Eventually it sticks. Idk. I've found that people you want to be around will respect you for standing up. I always will in that situation. If people don't, f them anyway

this made me cryyyy

dude same

So sad

its disgusting some people are pure evil

Watching that footage knowing what they had already done and was still going to do to her is sickening to think about! And the fact that she thought they were really going to get her some help or take her home is heartbreaking! She was tough too, I don’t know how many people would have been able to take all that abuse and walk as calmly as she was. At first viewing if I didn’t know what they did I don’t think I would have noticed anything wrong, just a girl not as fast as the others. Man and it’s these kinds of cases that I wish I had known her because I would have befriended her in a heartbeat! I know and have worked with several people with different disabilities so someone being a bit harder to befriend is not hard for me!

Yup. I have severe tourettes syndrome and I've been teased and bullied for it my whole life. Doesn't really bother me anymore and I generally just joke about it myself to ease that tension, but as a kid it really made me feel out of place. And kids can be little shits to other kids and parents need to step in and actually do something about their little demon children who severely bully other kids. No one should feel like their disorder or disability warrants teasing or bullying and it starts with teaching kids to be more empathetic or smacking the shit out of kids who can't seem to learn that lesson with just words.

In my home country Russia the parents sent a signed letter to the head of school because the teacher announced there would be a new kid in the class who happens to be autistic. They didn’t want that kid in their kids class because according to them “children with autism are unpredictable and can be aggressive and hurt our children. Our children will lag behind with learning because that kid won’t catch up with lessons as fast”. Now what do you expect from their children if the parents, grown people are the biggest bullies.

@@lunaballuna Hii I don’t know if you saw this years Eurovision. But there was a singer from Norway, Tix , who has Tourette syndrome. He was bullied for years since his childhood, he even tried to end his life. They called him “ticks” and even wrote that word on his forehead. But now he’s a number 1 star in his country, he’s so loved and has a big fan base in Nordic countries but also in Europe. He took the power back by taking Tix as his artist name and wearing a headband on his forehand with Tix written on it. His song “Fallen angel” is about his childhood and his struggles.

I’m so sorry, my brother has autism. We have to fight for him aswell. Including transport, teachers, T.A and his overall education. He was getting bullied and victimised by a teacher who proceeded to call my brother stupid and mocked him. It’s was disgusting to hear. I’ve lost my temper so many times at kids for simply bullying, I don’t like it and was brought up against it. My brother unfortunately believes bullying is normal and it’s the way to go, it’s really sad. If you need any help with stuff I don’t mind speaking about what helped us when it came to dealing with the schools!

@@TaurusGirl22 I'll have to look him up! I was called "glitch" growing up by friends and people I knew. My favorite comedian happens to have tourettes syndrome and he was on (I think it was) America's got talent. So funny and I really connected with his ability to turn something awful into humor. Alot of people don't realize that tourettes in some people can cause extreme pain. For me, I have a twitch in my stomach and one in my arm and the stomach one can cause me so much pain that I will vomit or have severe cramps while the one in my arm causes muscle stiffness and makes it difficult to move sometimes. They aren't just ticks, they can be debilitating and painful or even just embarrassing. I've had customers at my job ask me "are you dancing over there?" or "what are you doing" or "are you on drugs?" and they will laugh or just stare at me. My husband has really built me up. He never brought it up when we dated (even though his family thinks I'm defective, but they hate me anyway bc I'm American and not Russian like them, so I don't really care) and when people tease me, he really comes through with love.

Yeah and that she only talks about the perpetrators lives if they are relatively important to the case or did something similar. But we shouldn't talk about the perpetrators and criminals they don't deserve the attention.

Every vlogger does true crime stories in their own way. This one focuses on victims. Some focus on the criminals and their crimes. Both are good. Those that focus on the criminals show their behaviors leading up to the murders. Some behaviors and experiences are similar. The viewers know what to avoid and what to keep safe from

Its not aspergers. Its autism or asd. Aspergers comes from natzi hans aspergers who abused and tortured people with autism during the war. We haven't called it aspergers for years

Its not aspergers. Its autism or asd. Aspergers comes from natzi hans aspergers who abused and tortured people with autism during the war. We haven't called it aspergers for years

@@Olivia-ld9vz That is what it was called when I was diagnosed in the early 90a and I have never been corrected on that before. I am sorry if this offended you in some way. However, don't attack me for information I was given there are better ways to word what you said. I had to really calm down before I could reply because my anxiety amped up to 11. Please keep that in mind while you are championing those with asd to someone with asd.

@@whitneyroden742 I never attacked you. I gave you information

Wow I'm so proud of you 😍 keep it up 😊

I am so happy for you. As a autistic woman I send love from Brazil and Success for your future. 💙💙

Same. This story was triggering for me. I could literally feel my blood pressure rising when Eleanor went into detail about the torture Gemma went through. And not only that but the overall lack of care that Gemma had received. I'm not at all surprised that Gemma wasn't properly diagnosed. As we all know the medical field fucking sucks especially towards women. And the guy that only showed up for 10 to 15 minutes to """assess""" whether or not Gemma needed assisted living REALLY pissed me off. People who are failed by the system are often targeted by bad people. If the people that Gemma should have been able to count on actually did their motherfucking job it's very likely that Gemma would have still been alive and well taken care of. She wouldn't have turned to the wrong people for acceptance and companionship.

26 year old afab chiming in, in a different set of circumstances, this could well have been me. With a little less support, a little more loneliness, a little less life experience. She didnt deserve this one bit. But the fact that I understand this so well is kinda scary.

I’m so glad you now have a circle of people that love you and enjoy your company ❤️

It’s just really sad how she trusted them she did everything for them and they just tortured and murdered her :/

It really is, and the fact that they were her friends and then they killer her is horrible

Omg forreal

I agree

really wish I could’ve been Gemma’s friend, this case is really getting to me I can’t stop crying 😭

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I agree, this should be recognised in our justice system and be taken far more seriously, peer pressure is a big thing with young ppl and it's easy to cheer someone on, but also just standing watching, and laughing will also encourage those type of ppl, I also think in cases like this they all should've been treated equally and given full life sentences as this was definitely joint enterprise

💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞 Same for my son. This story broke my heart 😥 Wish people would have stood up for her.

Rosie Jones made a really powerful statement on The Last Leg, highky reccomend watching and sharing x

As a fellow autistic friend I absolutely agree, it’s nice to hear about awareness coming out of such horrible crimes like these.

It is heartbreaking. I don’t understand how the doctors can get away with this. She appeared to have downs to me. Downs children are so good IMO. I’m quite upset too. God bless you and your daughter.

@@sissy9393 thanks. I was in tears over this. I just hate anyone taking advantage of the innocent.

@@sissy9393 they did the chromosome test and I don’t believe she had Down syndrome. During this time when she was growing up there were still many misconceptions about ASD. We don’t have the full medical history so I really don’t want to judge or assume. I just believe the chromosome test would have shown that right away.

I get it,but they tried their best but they had to give them limits

I don't fully understand why it has to be the doctors blame. You should not judge, if 11 doctors don't finde the cause after almost any test - wth are they supposed to do?

Really though as an autistic person if it bothered them that much they could just choose to not be friends with her and continue all of the horrible stuff they were doing.... But then it means they don't have somebody to basically be a servant and do everything for them and bully for fun. It's just sad how so many people are like this.

I thought this as well, esp with the timing, in the 90s and 00s autism in girls was just not recognized or cared about. I was an autistic girl growing up then and got zero support despite many issues, its so so sad that this woman was failed by so many

I agree, even today so many autistic women are denied a diagnosis purely bc it presents differently and then don't get the proper care that they need. I was tested at age three and told I'm not autistic, but at age 15 got diagnosed

Touche, had teachers even blame me for my social lacking skills 😭 Honestly people forget that Einstein, Mozart, Newton, etc existed and they’re all heavily suspected to be autistic. But we’re all just “stupid”, right! 😌 Keep yer heads up, folks! You got this!

I wasn’t diagnosed until 14 and even then my family still ignores it. I’m so tired and it’s so frustrated

I also have autism I wasn't diagnosed till I was 23

I felt what she said on a deep level. I can not stand to see someone being harmed or used in a manipulative way, and I always act accordingly. I raised my boys to be the same way. Always help and always do what is right, say something. My heart goes out to her family ❤

It’s not right to make fun of someone with a condition I hope they get what they deserve it’s not right to take advantage of someone just because they can it’s wrong I remember I had friend in class who was Down syndrome they use to make fun of her I would defend her.

@@jenna8456 I’m so sorry I hope your doing okay god bless you!

I so agree with you! Eleanor did this with the utmost respect to Gemma and her family.

what?! a do not resuscitate order because you have autism?? is that legal???? i'm so sorry

Wait do not resuscitate? Like just let you die?

I hope they stay safe💜

They have innocent souls they should be protected and advocated for. Maybe an unpopular opinion but Gemmas family is at fault and have failed her.

One of my friends has autism. He worked at little Ceasars and a coworker asked him to clock in under his name. He did it not realizing he wasn't getting paid for his time bc of it.

I agree... They're so nice, sweet, innocent, caring and forgiving. Whatever wrong you may do to them, they would always forgive and love you still. It's incomprehensible that some people take advantage of those precious sweet souls. Disgusting.

My youngest son has autism but his 4 siblings don't... we believe in an eye for an eye

Same here, girl.

I often wonder if I am. I have trouble figuring out when people are just using me.

@@PandaPrincessM I wondered for a long time before I was diagnosed. You know yourself best and I always encourage people to ask their psychiatrist if they believe they’re on the spectrum. I felt like an 👽 for soooo long but it really opened my perception to the neurodiverse mindset.

Exact same for me. Only just diagnosed at 28. It's been exhausting x

@Angel Marie thank you for sharing your story and encouraging others to get assessed I hope you have found real friends. Friends are the family that you curated and if they are really friends you will never have to 2nd guess their intentions :)

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Menopause at 27?! 🤦🏼‍♀️🥴

@@melissam597 Menopause around 13, actually.

@@bunnymoth7794 how the fuck is that even possible

Ikr i got so excited… then let down. I thought she was actually diagnosed.

Couldnt say better myself

I agree very much, I have ADHD and have many similar qualities to Gemma and the way she talked about those things made me feel less embarrassed because she didn’t make it seem like a bad thing :)

Bro I see you everywhere. First on those school shooting videos, and now here.

the new true crime genre is to focuse more on the victims. i really prefer this to the other side.

@d R Just want to say that I love your comment. I feel the same way. You summed up my thoughts in a clear, concise manner, much better than I'd be able to articulate.

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me too!! im autistic and a brit too and i completely agree

Yess eleanor is so sweet

@@user-eb2sf2kt9s can I be accepted into the autistic Brit group I hate being American-

@@Subterranean_sebastian omgosh me too!

You’re a good mama (step mama?) not sure what you prefer haha ❤️ I hope your stepson makes good friends who will stand up for him and treat him like their other friends.

@@myacampbell6516 Thank you sweetheart 💖I really appreciate that my friend. He has 3 other siblings to help. But he starts school for the first time in a few weeks and it’s so nerve racking.

Your an incredible mum (step mum, I don't know what you prefer haha.) 💖💖 I hope your son makes some amazing friends.

hope your step son can thrive in this world :)

As an autistic person (I’m only 15) I would like to give a little piece of advice just listen and try not to talk down to him especially when he’s older ❤️

yh she ment he wasnt a bad guy in school

@@aischa.j9551 I know... I was being facetious sorry :p

I obviously didn’t get the visuals of that, but that image conjures up so much upset because the poor woman was completely helpless and trusted these people, her so-called friends. This really does make my heart bleed. Poor poor girl. That really does make me so sad. How awful for her. X

That's when I had to switch it off, I'll be coming back to it later, hit me too hard seeing that 😔

I don't think comparing her to a puppy is respectful, i know you don't mean wrong but yeah i dont think that's good. Her 'friends' took advantage of her disability, i cant belive someone cn be so evil and cruel

@@kodak3619 I think they mean killing some one so innocent is like killing a puppy, which I totally get

@@kodak3619 I think a perfectly acceptable comparison to make, puppies are innocent and so was Gemma. It’s heartbreaking to see

I sometimes think they all are probably getting reincarnated as Gemma when they die, I imagine the universe does this to a lot of horrible characters who torture and kill , the case of a Japanese woman called junko in 88' I think, it could very well be the same thing, she was tortured sad to say even more catastrophically graphically worse than gemma. The reincarnation thing could be happening to each of the gang members for that killing

Gemma literally fought for basic needs, and assistance. Only for those cruel people to use her.

I'm autistic and I agree. They deserve life in prison and I hope they die there. They took advantage of this poor girl and only befriended her and kept her around to steal and keep drugs for them and abused and assaulted her multiple times and then decided to torture and kill her because she was disabled and vulnerable and they didn't want her around anymore.

My brother has schizophrenia and he now can't control his own money anymore (he has a public guardian & Trustee do it for him) because for years people kept doing this to him and taking his monthly cheque as soon as he would get it. So now it's doled out in smaller amounts, twice a week. He kept not having money for food and bills :/ I had to scare off quite a few people over the years. It's so heartbreaking that there are so many people like this who will take advantage of someone's vulnerability without a second thought.

I can explain… a) people are just born bad. They just are. It’s a small minority, but it’s like their soulless from the birth. And b) Power and Control. Sweet Gemma was a toy, a useless toy they could break when it bored them. And because she was so easy to play with, the need to treat her worse grew. I bet that joke about being 16 was a lil streak of independence from their toy, so she had to be smashed and never be fixed. These people are subhuman, debasing scum, and Gemma was an little Cherub, given to her family as the BEST person, but this person met those creatures and the venom of power won. It is good you don’t understand. Keep your mind away from the darkness. It’s not good to have been in similar situations to know fairly well what happened here, like me.

They're born evil

That was the part that got me the most too. Knowing what she had already been through at that point yet she still wanted to believe them! Heartbreaking!

This case really hurts me. Her family is also at fault too. Shes a disabled individual who is a bit mentally underdeveloped. Gemma requested home aid which shows that she needs assistance in life and her family completely neglected her. She can still live a independent life but in the end shes disabled and needs someone to advocate for her. Which is her family. They see her stuggle and have sketchy ppl around her and they decided to look the other way.

@@amirashaweshify I’m sure her family has many regrets. We don’t know what the entirety of Gemma’s relationship with her family was like. She could have insisted to her family that she did not want their help so that she could have her independence and do what she wanted without having to worry about anyone’s rules or opinions- we don’t know! And if that was the case, I am aware that her family should have pushed harder but on the other hand I’m sure they also wanted to support her independence. The letter she wrote to the government very much sounds like it was written and sent by her... it’s possible her parents had no idea that she had asked the government for help in her daily life. There are so many factors that we don’t know about. It’s a bit harsh... no extremely harsh to say it’s partially her family’s fault that she was brutally murdered after being taken advantage of for how ever long. What if her family sees this video and reads your comment? How do you think they would feel? Do you actually want to make someone feel that way? Be a nicer person xo

@@ashleychildresss I completely understand what you're saying, and I don't blame the family at all. There were five people who killed Gemma, and only they can be held responsible for that. However, as mother to an autistic boy, I struggle just a bit to understand how Gemma's mum didn't step in sooner with regards to the housing, self-care etc. She was fully aware that Gemma struggled with this, and red flags maybe should have been raised when Gemma no longer allowed them into her flat. As a mother, your job, no matter how old your children get or how stubborn they can be, is to protect them. If something feels off, then you cannot ignore that. Even with children who don't have special needs. Gemma was incredibly, INCREDIBLY vulnerable and naive and her family were aware of this, more could have been put in place to help Gemma at home. That being said, they cannot in any way shape or form be blamed for the her awful murder. Like I said, we know who is responsible for that. The doctors and specialists she saw over the years should also shoulder some of the blame for Gemma's lack of quality of life after college. Girls tend to be harder to diagnosis than boys, but it was obvious, even back then, that Gemma was different bless her heart, and in her first 14 years of her life, how many people must have come in contact with her? And none of them recognised her difficulties? The mind boggles 🥺 but yes, just my opinion of course and I absolutely say this with complete respect. I can't even begin to imagine how her family feel 💔

Yes totally!!

this

fr shes my comfort person

I can't believe I found her just now, I am into true crime but respectful for more than a year, but at least I have some material to watch Personally I like Kenall Rae and Christina Randall for the same reasons, they always start out with victim's life/lives

None of them come out of this looking good. Somebody could have pretended to be feeling ill then called the police when out of earshot.

they’re going to get out in 2 and 4 years, that’s crazy

Karma is coming for them when the time is right!

@@Amira-gn4oj Holy hell....I missed that part of the story. If I total all the days I've been locked up for smoking hashish, I've done more time than these monsters. Geezus

this is not only disgusting but it’s disappointing.

I'm Special Ed and I use to be taken advantage of when I was younger, I didn't realize then but kinda more aware now and try to not to let it happen anymore.

@@minakoaino7043 i am so sorry that happened to you, i hope you’re doing better now

@@ginger1723 thank you and yes, thank you again, I'm not as naive as I use to be.

@@minakoaino7043 that’s great:)

yeah totally agree it’s so sad

I was thinking the exact same thing!!

at the beginning she said that they did chromosomal testing. i was thinking the same

i thought this too but i thought it could be down syndrome, arent they quite similare. I dont know alot about these syndromes , btw sorry for bad spelling lmao)

She said they did chromosomal testing.

Definitely possible. However it is mentioned she was sent for chromosomal studies, so they 100% would have picked this up. More probable it was an endocrine disorder, perhaps a complete GH deficiency or perhaps partial Thyroid dysfunction in conjunction with GH deficiency. This would stunt growth, and cause mental developmental delay, as well as weight gain, amongst other issues. Honestly many things could have been causative and we don’t have enough information to deduce what was the true cause behind her disability. What I don’t understand is how either of these things could be “missed” (thyroid, GH, or esp Turner’s).

Life in prison in the us doesn’t exactly mean life. Most of the time they have set years before they can apply for parol

Then u got ppl bein able to own guns and at least 5 shootings a month 🤷‍♀️ idk if I was u but ide choose UK

Incorrect a life sentence in the US is 25 years

is that why you guys have so much mass-shootings over there?

Nope. Life in prison almost always has a chance of parole within 20 years of the sentence starting. Of they are rejected, the sentence will continue to life. If they are granted parole, they're free.

I was thinking about that too, assisted living sounds like a good idea but then Eleanor was saying "yeah for the mentally disabled, criminals, and drug addicts" like wtf UK?!

@@Jaderabbit3485 seriously!!! She obviously didn’t fit into that crowd so I don’t understand why they would put her there in the first place, it’s so sad. She reminds me of my little brother, he has trouble keeping on top of his cleaning and hygiene and I always wonder how life is gonna go for him when he moves out of my parents house and I hope to god it’s not something like this.

The assisted housing by us is full of vulnerable people like Gemma who usually end up with substance issues and get forgotten about by the government. Then there are the teen parents (most are) trying their level best to be good parents but they're surrounded by drugs, alcohol, crime, fights etc. Nobody should be chucked into a squalid block of flats so society can write them off

It was like putting a bunny and a pack of wolves in the same cage

It’s extremely common. Low income housing (here in the US) is usually available to criminals and the disabled. The government doesn’t care if innocent, vulnerable disabled people are thrown in with criminals. It’s really tragic.

Stop saying the world needs those people and start being those people. As someone who is aware, I'm sure that it won't take much for your o make a difference ❤

@@onyxth3ripper easier said than done. You can be an all-round genuine, kind, compassionate person - but it’s often up to wealth and power to bring this mentality and humanity into politics, management systems, etc -but by the time an individual makes it there - it’s gone. Their compassion, humanity, empathy etc etc

Pity she couldn’t have lived with her sister

She was amazing... I live in rugby and she was in every single way amazing, I can't describe her in any other way.

😭

There are many more that need more real friends. Definitely go make one or more! They're amazing.

It’s so sad

Me too

You likely won't see this message. But, ASD and ADHD often are cohabitual. A lot of folks with Autism also have some form of ADD or ADHD.

Was it kinda like Precocious Puberty?

My sister has Mosaic Turners Syndrome and this reminds me of that or Turners syndrome

@@denegwynn2869 yes, she was 5 years old with fully grown leg hair, a period, etc.

@@intrepidtomato Yes! We’ve always known she had some sort of learning disability but could never get a diagnosis. It’s not quite like anything I’ve ever seen. Which is why I guess she wasn’t diagnosed. The doctor said she was 18 at the mental stage as a 10 year old and the bodily changes of a fully grown woman

@@avveryy Wow I’ve never heard of that. I’ll look it up! I’m sorry your sister is having to deal with something so awful. That’s just horrible. My best wishes to you and your family❤️

having a living assistant wouldn’t have changed her mindset about her friends….

@@sma1616 a living assistant would have recognised abuse and reported those 'friends'. Safeguarding is a crucial part of their work, and she was failed enormously in this aspect.

Her family failed this woman. If you know your daughter has special needs how can you not check on how is she living?

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Ikr

i understand. it can be very difficult. my friend also has adhd and has struggles keeping her room completely clean, but that's okay. most people do.

It’s ok, you’re not alone- household chores are so much more challenging for people with adhd because we have to put so much more effort into making those thoughts into action. Be proud of yourself for managing to take out the trash, do the laundry, etc. those are big things.

Same here 😔

You don’t need to be embarrassed. I don’t know the people in your life however I have a theory they wouldn’t care because of how great you are, maybe they even would like to help clean it up when you want. I hope things go great for you.

@@Sam_s00m that was such a lovely comment, you seem like a very kind person 😊

Exactly

Watching her walk with them and wipe her bloody nose was so sad. She had no clue they were about to kill her 😥

Her victims??

@@irenelatte5106 omg i meant it like “the” victims she talks about but i worded it weirdly LOL

@@lilyanne6703 ooohh, sorry 😅

Yeah she’s awesome

There's usually clubs and services like types of colleges or job opportunities aimed at people for disabilities. I support adults and they work doing gardening, cooking etc within this so they have an amazing community they are understood in. They also then have support workers to live independently in their own homes targeted to their needs.. didn't know if this would be any reassurance to you.

@@bexhurst3104 yes, thank you! we were aware of these resources. my mom has actually been looking for things like that in our area recently so that my sister won’t be locked in the house watching tv all day once she graduates

Mine recently turned 11 and even though she’s still young and has a way to go, time is gonna go so fast and she’ll be 18 and I’m really concerned about the people she’ll interact with as well. She does really well on her own , very independent already and intelligent but I can’t help but to worry about who she’ll meet when she’s older. I feel you on the determination & willpower to keep a really close eye on whoever tries to come into her life.

@@LolNotDarian I'm sure she will find something that she enjoys within one of the services, and make loads of friends whilst doing so! Honestly seeing the people I support thrive, have jobs and their own home, friends and relationships, was one of the main things that helped me when my own daughter got diagnosed with autism x

Hi, I wanted to let you know that "sister IS special needs" its not really an appropriate way to say someone is disabled. A good alternative to this is my sister HAS special needs. :)