Thank you. I don't know where my brain was. I will edit the description. It is a raptor. Thanks for the additional information. It has been a great gun and several smaller folks have shot it.

Thanks for sharing this information, I was wondering if I should have an oring that moved, mine is trapped inside the barrel ring.

Thank u… I was looking for the O ring

Must be an upgrade since this one is several years old now. Glad it helped.

Mine has an o ring that is trapped inside a groove of the barrel ring, it’s stationary and not able to move.

If you are searching for aftermarket chokes, search "mobil" choke thread. Carlson's choke tubes sells some good ones, we have an extended xxfull turkey choke from them for this gun.

Is your buttstock loose on this gun?

It was , I figured it out myself !

I mean 11-87 but misspoke in the video. Definitely not an 870.

I meant 11-87. But the 11-87 bolt and 870 bolt do come out the exact same way.

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 That would make sense.

If you do it a lot it can crack the receiver, but generally a few times just makes a little scratch. Not something I would do regularly, but if it happens every once in a while it will be fine.

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 okay thank you for your answer i was wondering 👍

That is the carrier latch. It is the equivalent of pulling the trigger but doesn't fire the gun. On this gun if you have the tube full but no shell chambered the carrier will not pick up a shell because it thinks there's one in the chamber. Pressing the carrier release allows it to pick up a shell when you pull the bolt rearward. I hope that helps.

I would start with: Is your tube very clean, smooth and dry for the piston to cycle? Are your gas ports in the bottom of the barrel clear and clean? A lot of folks will get a little piece of wad or dirt in their gas ports and have cycling issues, or their tube will be dirty and slow the piston on cycling. If both of those things are OK, there are a few fixes, but they require modification to the gun. You can enlarge the gas ports, but need a machinist drill set for that as you only want a very small increase. The other thing that helps some guns is to leave it locked open so the spring stays compressed for a long time, sometimes that loosens them up. I would try that first. Finally, you could take a coil or 2 off the spring, but I wouldn't do that unless you only intend on shooting really weak shells all the time.

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 I wonder if I could buy a second spring to cut down for lower powered shells and put the full force spring back in for harder shooting game loads,,,

@@nickrobinson9503 I haven't looked into after market parts, but if a spring is available, that would definitely help any gun cycle low power shells. Just like any other modification, you want to take off a little at a time.

Several people sell the orings, I bought my last ones from Carlson's chokes. But I was buying choles too, so I included some in the order. The piston- I would contact tristar and see if they would send one for free. If not I would get them to sell it to me. That way you know it fits/works.

They last quite a while unless you are shooting really heavy volume. I just get the 20 gauge gas o rings from Carlson's for it.

Without seeing the gun it would be pretty tough. But a lot of these guns are tight, sometimes you will think it is stuck and you just have to wiggle it at the right angle. I have not had a bolt get stuck on one of these. How is the spring and gas piston stuck? They should slide right off of the magazine tube after removing the barrel?

What's stuck is the gas piston. It doesn't slide off the magazine tube.

@@SergioGonzalez-we8cq that shouldn't happen. Did you take the o-ring at the end of the magazine tube off? If so, the piston should very easily slide off. Did the o-ring get stuck under the piston maybe? I would twist and pull the piston towards the back of the shotgun to see if I could free it up, maybe using something like wd-40. The gas piston should move very easily and freely. The only time I have seen it stuck like that is when the o-ring got rolled underneath it.

From tristar. I don't think others will fit this gun because they aren't deep enough. Unless you shimmed.

You have to thread the magazine tube out of the receiver. The the spring and follower come out. If I remember correctly.

I haven't played with the trigger in this one. The trigger group comes out and you would have to clean up the sear engagement point or change the geometry. That's delicate work that could go wrong.

Are they 2 3/4 shells or 3 inch?

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 2 3/4 That’s weird is new ?

How do you open where the shots go to see if there is something stuck? Do you have any video to check it?

@@cheppeolivares4898 you mean the magazine tube?

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 yes pls

I am still seeing the viper (Shotgun) available in 20 and 12 from distributors. Haven't heard anything about them not making them anymore.

They're still making them. Bass pro stores carry them if you're still looking.

Not this one. I haven't heard of any either. Is yours overgassed even for low brass bird shot?

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 mine is not this exact model it's more of a "tactical" model but yes, I took it in to a gunsmith to have thread locker applied to the bolts bc they all worked themselves loose, along with the pin walking out on its own, the gunsmith alerted me about metal shavings in the receiver and the cause

@@momochitanba9246 and that's with shooting low brass stuff? Wow. These guns are usually a little under gassed and won't cycle cheap stuff without some break in.......

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 yeah, I only ran high brass buck for like the first 50-100rds after that it ran low brass birdshot just fine

I've had it for about a year

What size o ring fits a tri star raptor ?

Larry mine didn't have a rubber o ring either. Haven't shot it yet.... wonder if it'll work? Seems to be a split metal ring instead of an o ring.

Thanks I am a old 20 gauge remington LW hunter they used o rings.But I have used my Raptor this Ky Season with out any failures .

It is my wife's gun. It's a youth model and doesn't fit me at all.......

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 i was joking, my apologies if I came off wrong, I own one lol well my wife bought it, I wanted a shot gun and she wasn't letting me buy another so, talked her into her going to get it for me lol well this was the out come 😅🤫she doesn't like the way the lady at the counter talks, looks,etc at me lol 😀 all i wanted was a banelli m4 😅

@@rubenmendez2478 no worries. One of these days I will have to learn how to talk her into a gun that I like too (but our tastes are totally different and the stuff that fits her doesn't fit me)☹️

An ad block will cure that. I haven't seen a commercial in ages, except when I turn it off and forget to turn it on again. Everything plays straight through when I use it.

Not padding runtime, just moving at my pace. Sorry it's not concise enough

@@murphyfirearmstraining3630 you’re good dude. when I watched the vid I had my partially dissembled shotgun on my lap and a NEED for an immediate solution. The manual has two tiny pictures to go off of and a vague paragraph on removing the bolt