Music Production - How To Get A Great Snare Sound on Your Recordings

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Rick Beato

Rick Beato

7 жыл бұрын

In this episode I will show you how to get a great snare sound on your recordings. I discuss tuning, snare length, how to dampen overtones, rimshot verses center hits and how to mic the snare for the best sound.
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@johnpatitucci7919
@johnpatitucci7919 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy how you focused on the mechanics side of the recording and the drums rather than the mixing side. It shows that it has more to do with the instrument than the way it's mixed. Something I'm trying to convey to my band mates. In music, you can't polish a turd.
@sebwarren7918
@sebwarren7918 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! Rigby Otto is the closed caption translation of your name. Gold.
@PirahnaheadDetroit
@PirahnaheadDetroit 5 жыл бұрын
Seb Warren Music hilarious
@anth0rama
@anth0rama 7 жыл бұрын
So I dig out my Shinedown CD, look at the back, " *produced by Rick Beato", cool! Thanks for the great vids!!
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
Cool! Most people think I play the piano and teach theory. Haha! I always have people writing to me saying I had no idea you were a producer :)
@xydex99
@xydex99 7 жыл бұрын
Rick Beato to be honest your set up and equipment should speak for itself
@renaissongsmann8889
@renaissongsmann8889 6 жыл бұрын
You don't have to listen to too many until it shows up ... "I did this for so-and-so on their record" ... but some people I guess don't pay much attention? It's actually the one thing that made me interested in the first place. I've produced one record ... wish I could do it as "work" ;-)
@Channel5Nouzz
@Channel5Nouzz 7 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos, your personnality and authenticity. You will help a lot of musicians in the process. Thank you!
@texxred3657
@texxred3657 7 жыл бұрын
I wish this was out many moons ago. Over 30 years to figure out a lot of this. But not some of the finer details. Great knowledge and communication.
@MrTristandestry
@MrTristandestry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing so much wisdom, Rick. I especially liked how you went through the tracks and commented on each snare sound. Interesting point about snare length and song tempo.
@jamessaldana2022
@jamessaldana2022 7 жыл бұрын
Great Vid...Sir you seem to be one of the only Pro's on KZfaq , who are actually teaching us relevant information on production techniques in an organized and concise manner, without any name dropping or BS. Thank you for sharing...
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
+James Saldana thanks James!
@nathanricker1
@nathanricker1 4 жыл бұрын
The most badass name he could drop would be his own sooooo....there’s really no point in that
@waltonbrown
@waltonbrown 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great info, especially tuning the snare wire to the tempo of the song.
@matturner6890
@matturner6890 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be afraid to throw it intentionally out of tune, too! That can also work depending on the song. It seems to makes it pop through more as opposed to blending in with the rest of the mix, but again it really depends on t he song. Tends to work better with a short decay too I've noticed.
@drbassface
@drbassface 6 жыл бұрын
The Beatle’s “HELP!” seems to be the most obvious example of a Beatle’s Snare tuned to the tonic “A”. Very cool.
@theopinson3851
@theopinson3851 3 жыл бұрын
You can also modulate the pitch of a rimshot depending on where you hit (and how thick that portion of the stick is)...doesn’t always have to be dead center. One of my prouder moments in my old band was I switched from a lower (center) rimshot to a higher one for different sections of the song based on the harmony of different sections. I don’t know if anyone ever noticed but it sounded a lot better to me.
@dragnfli520
@dragnfli520 5 жыл бұрын
That was probably the most comprehensive snare overview! Learned a lot, thx!
@lake033
@lake033 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of these helpful tutorials, Rick. They are so helpful.
@StankoAx
@StankoAx 4 жыл бұрын
For Mia is one of my favorite tracks that you did. It has an amazing harmony before the chorus. I would like to see you dissect this song! Thanks for everything, Rick!
@JanPrze
@JanPrze 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I love Shinedown. It's great to hear you produced them. Love from Poland!
@single-mindedsoldierstudio832
@single-mindedsoldierstudio832 6 жыл бұрын
Your channel is incredible. Thanks for all the wisdom and knowledge you share.
@victorpradella
@victorpradella 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, you produced Needtobreathe's The Reckoning. I Love this record. Amazing Job, Congrats!
@michaelmattice4986
@michaelmattice4986 7 жыл бұрын
Another great vid Rick! Thanks so much for sharing...Especially those amazing recordings you produced of some great sounding bands! Continued success:)
@remix2112
@remix2112 6 жыл бұрын
Great content on this channel! Drummers with limited budgets: placing a full sheet of regular printer paper on your snare head will also work if you literally have nothing to dampen your snare. Just lay it right in the middle. Add another sheet or 2 if you want more dampening. Again, this is the cheapest, last resort method, but it works.
@toneartsound
@toneartsound 7 жыл бұрын
Love it :) - Really amazing how the emphasis is on the drum tuning, sound of the drum and then mic placement rather than what microphone to use, compared to 95% percent of what is found on the net!!
@krusher74
@krusher74 4 жыл бұрын
Lars Ulrich has left the chat.
@JC-sj2pd
@JC-sj2pd 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@Sundaydrumday
@Sundaydrumday 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣😍🤣💀💀💀💀💀
@spaceburger80
@spaceburger80 Жыл бұрын
/werenotworthy 🤜🤛
@Gluttonforpeace
@Gluttonforpeace 5 жыл бұрын
Keep going, Rick! All of your videos are so dope.
@thighcurlcontest
@thighcurlcontest 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you did an awesome job matching the snare sound to the song on most of those tracks. Great video.
@recordman555
@recordman555 7 жыл бұрын
Rick, again it amazes me your willingness to share real-world knowledge of the record production process. In the recording realm, drums have been a fascination for me since . . . well, a very long time. I know some drummers to actually lay a bead of calk or silicone on the drum head, just off the rim - to varying lengths, as required. I once, for the lack of any gate, and to achieve an effect, used canvass tympani covers on rack toms. It's one of those "don't look at the drums!" situations. Thank you for making these tutorials. I know if I ever allow myself to become unteachable - that I already know enough, I will quickly be of no value to anything or anyone whose life depends on making music.
@Nephilim-81
@Nephilim-81 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing Mr. B. You are a great teacher. ✌️
@catvssnake6639
@catvssnake6639 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you! I'm a songwriter adding snare hits into my acoustic songs and I had a friend (drummer) come tune my snare for me, but I wasn't sure if the higher frequency "ring" on my snare that I can now hear meant i had stray frequencies, but now i realize that ring is supposed to be there. Some dampening should do the trick for me.
@matthewamos327
@matthewamos327 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, I'm really glad I've found your channel. Ive tried many methods for drum tuning and have never really found a great method.......until now!!! I had a horrible gig last week all because I couldn't find a good sound for my pearl Joey Jordison signature snare. I've watched your video, tuned it up and it sounds better than it ever has. I have a gig tonight and can't wait. You've also solved the mystery of why my bottom lug always comes undone! (I'm a rim shotter and I'm not afraid to admit it) keep up the good work!
@JoseMTamez
@JoseMTamez 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I love those snare drum sounds. Your right about the Ludwig BB snare, been around since the seventies.
@FredMinville
@FredMinville 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is one of a few music class I take. Thank you for making so much good content
@mikeslay3294
@mikeslay3294 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as a retired live engineer I appreciate your insight. I learned stuff and felt vindicated at the same time.
@Plisko1
@Plisko1 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video Rick. I love that you covered a lot about the snare drum itself and the value of rim shots vs center hits. That is solid gold advice. I've found the height and angle of the snare to the drummer makes rimshots arrive much more naturally. I've been experimenting with a Yamaha 13x4 maple snare with a frosted pinstripe head. I like the rim shot sound it makes.
@AaronHallett
@AaronHallett 5 жыл бұрын
I knew all of this with the exception of tightening and loosening the snares for different tempos. I always tighten them up and add reverb for slow songs instead. I’m going to have to try that. This is why I watch these things. You can always learn more.
@jamesmatthew5870
@jamesmatthew5870 6 жыл бұрын
great technical tips and nice to hear from your ( recording ) perspective. thx
@moonkef
@moonkef 5 жыл бұрын
Watching for he second time Rick great sounds! A lot of tips you give that I already do myself in my studio, the Wow effect on guitars, the attention to detail regarding snare de tuning and tuning it to the song etc nice to know I'm doing some things right! The track by Essex has a little bit of Kings X ''Fool You'' vibe to it.
@ryanhingorani4019
@ryanhingorani4019 5 жыл бұрын
"It's got a lot of Bonham end" 11:11
@joeyhanneman7177
@joeyhanneman7177 2 жыл бұрын
Bottom
@PetexZen
@PetexZen 7 жыл бұрын
Wow your live room sounds amazing!!!! Great video, love that there is no bullshit filler.
@darrynmckeon1610
@darrynmckeon1610 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick love these informational videos keep them coming
@javieravila4213
@javieravila4213 6 жыл бұрын
Wow so much and great information. Thank you so much señor Rick!!
@jnathanhopkins
@jnathanhopkins Жыл бұрын
This is wildly helpful man, thank you for putting this together!
@targetpanicrecords
@targetpanicrecords 2 жыл бұрын
You named off a small handful of my friends down here in Charleston that’s really cool man I didn’t know that you were involved with their projects! Thank you for everything you do Mr. Rick!
@moondrums
@moondrums 5 жыл бұрын
Love the snare on Shinedown track. Also I saw Junp little Children here in charlotte in 97. They were very popular here,. SLAM..great dums! wow.
@ColdSleep
@ColdSleep 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid! I've done a lot of drum tracking and this stuff is spot on.
@ArchambaultMark
@ArchambaultMark 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for turning me on to Crowfield. I like his voice. It reminds me of Burton Cummings and he is my favorite vocalist.
@cresk
@cresk 4 жыл бұрын
I know it’s thee years old, but it’s still very relevant and useful. Thanks Rick.
@r.a.8590
@r.a.8590 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of great bands in the examples that never released the albums. So sad!! Same thing happened to my band in 2017. Thanks for the great content Rick!
@capturelightmedia
@capturelightmedia 7 жыл бұрын
Man, I love your content. Great work. Very informative. Thank you!
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jared!
@grantwalkersound
@grantwalkersound 7 жыл бұрын
Great video... Cool you worked with Jump Little Children... They were such a great band.
@joshuasy10
@joshuasy10 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this is actually really helpful and informative thanks man
@oscar8159
@oscar8159 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your advise sir, it really helps me.
@sandyhancock5521
@sandyhancock5521 5 жыл бұрын
All I ever play and have ever played is rim shots! I don't miss! Been playing for 50 years! 👍 Great video!!
@johnkehl9365
@johnkehl9365 4 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful, thanks Rick!
@rockboy360
@rockboy360 6 жыл бұрын
Man you've got amazing records! Great sounds!
@kurtcameron7562
@kurtcameron7562 Жыл бұрын
I like how your channel went from music production to more of a, shall I say, music connoisseur channel. That being said, I have purchased your Beato Book, and have learned a lot from your channel, in regards to both aspects. I remember when you reached your first 1M subs, and I look forward to seeing you reach 4M. Cheers!
@TimSuliman
@TimSuliman 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Bruford was the king of the rimshot. This was very informative, thanks!
@marniewalinga
@marniewalinga 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same kit in that finish and the exact same snare. Love the combination
@Mrmarkgriffin
@Mrmarkgriffin 4 жыл бұрын
I dig all your videos, but the one’s you’ve done on drums (how to get a phat bass sound, this one) have been really interesting as a drummer. Love you work!
@kidamazed
@kidamazed 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you Rick!
@michaelgehringmusic8440
@michaelgehringmusic8440 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick! Great information.
@danwentz
@danwentz 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff, Rick. Thanks!
@Aring1969
@Aring1969 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the share, I will try the two microphones on my snare.
@christiancanalita6487
@christiancanalita6487 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video....really helping with my schooling at Berklee.
@jjcrews5667
@jjcrews5667 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda tells you how effective Berklee is! :) I went to Berklee....then went back to playing /recording for a living!
@johnreardon1169
@johnreardon1169 6 жыл бұрын
Most excellent video. You're the best!
@mewfan84
@mewfan84 7 жыл бұрын
Lots of valuable info, thanks!
@andreybenassi1
@andreybenassi1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making videos... Your channel is one of my favorites right now! By the way, waiting for the day you will make a CLA Drums Mixing Technique!
@sweliam1
@sweliam1 7 жыл бұрын
Andrey Benassi CLA has a tut on AudioLegends.com, and an excerpt on Slate Digital's YT-channel where he mixes a snare.
@yougoseo1580
@yougoseo1580 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding as usual Rick!
@izziOnBass
@izziOnBass 3 жыл бұрын
Certain things I never knew existed as facts! Thanks for the great educational video!
@robertbloom4424
@robertbloom4424 6 жыл бұрын
This video is badass. Thanks, Rick!
@360takka
@360takka 4 жыл бұрын
Stunning mixes Rick
@The_Absurdistt
@The_Absurdistt 5 жыл бұрын
Informative vid. Another advantage to recording rim shots is the pre amp gain doesn't have to be very high ( relatively speaking) as rimshots are louder than center snare hits. By having the gain lower the hi hat bleed into the snare mic is reduced... always a bonus. Cheers.
@dolt454
@dolt454 5 жыл бұрын
Dude. I had a critical comment..but held back cause i luv ur channel. Radio ready is never good. Seriously. Luv the channel.
@MsPareidolia
@MsPareidolia 6 жыл бұрын
These videos are really well done, thank you for offering such solid advice on a lot of topics! Jealous of that Black Beauty, though I have a 15" Ludwig that really cranks!
@pedrocanas1162
@pedrocanas1162 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man, especially 7:30. Gonna go listen to that song now
@MaxSenitt
@MaxSenitt 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for doing this
@Joesfosterdogs
@Joesfosterdogs 6 жыл бұрын
your musical depth and breath continues to impress! was enough just playing the larry carlton solo off the steely dan video, but you are all over the map kinda good!
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@Joesfosterdogs
@Joesfosterdogs 6 жыл бұрын
hey rick...guys in my drum forum are really getting turned onto your drum production studio mic'ing stuff...i think you tapping this internet group will really send your numbers high...and thats a good thing...after watching your video on music schools and how HONEST you were...i was sold! plus your fathering is outstanding...that is most impressive your family...people want success like this...we need cats over 50 to the lead the way...you can have success and a strong family as well...inspiring!
@cobyutterback
@cobyutterback 7 жыл бұрын
rick! this is amazing!!! thank you!!!!
@ladoguerie
@ladoguerie 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing...very interesting
@marksadventures3889
@marksadventures3889 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, we're in my place now! Drums and snare work; I tune the bottoms up (tight) and the tops lower. I trained myself to do both and you are so right, rim shots are a task to hit. A good drummer should be able to do both, i don't class myself that high but i can do both and stick control is so important. So to learn I took the classical/jazz route as it was more than demanding to my ears than most rock stuff and pop i thought had now just become the realm of machines and samples. Hal Blaine explained that the snare use should be crisp and definable from anything else and give your own sound individuality. I use Ambassador X and Remo coated. I took the original snare off of a 14" X 6 1/2 " snare (brass) and put on a 40 strand snare and had it looser than before. (this is to emulate Bonzo's 402 Super Ludvig ). Does that make sense to you? But I love it!
@Olliemets
@Olliemets 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. More (Custom) wires and looser really gets me closer t the sound I want. Drummer hear who really digs this channel
@SteveStockmalMusic
@SteveStockmalMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff man! I have watched so many of your videos that I am actually starting to sound like you when I teach! (I have about 50-60 private students, I teach drums bass guitar piano trombone trumpet voice music production theory) My only funny comment here is that if I quote you directly, it works out that John Bonham grew up listening to Led Zeppelin! LOL Ps Totally loving the “what makes this song great” series. So insightful
@raidovski
@raidovski 7 жыл бұрын
Great work...I am amazed of the productions and the music that you produced...wow, very impressive, massive, open sound...that is something that I would love to achieve someday...Regards!
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
+Konstantin Raidovski (Raido) Thanks Konstantinos! You know, I got fed up one day when I first started producing because I couldn't get a great snare sound with the drummers Snare I was using. That's when I went out and purchased my first Snare. I own a bunch of them now that sound great on any recording. That's really the key. It's all about the sound source. Thanks so much! Rick
@raidovski
@raidovski 7 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for sharing that...this is something that I am going through...I have been trying every miking technique that you mentioned plus a few others that I know for years, but I was always relying on the drummers kits, and the sound was not the way that I wanted it in my head...until I changed the kick and the snare during a session with an old Slingerland kick and snare from the seventies that were forgotten in a studio basement. That was a turning point...every time I try this kit against other...it just knock downs any dw, yamaha or whatever modern thing comes for recording. The same thing was with an old vintage Earth bass amplifier...there are things that are made to sit in the mix...:)
@benevolentsun
@benevolentsun 6 жыл бұрын
First step to get a good sound for recording 1. Step: buy a Ludwig Supraphonic. You're done.
@mariaulfah2813
@mariaulfah2813 6 жыл бұрын
Step 2, (optional) make samples from led zep moby dick.
@norskov
@norskov 6 жыл бұрын
def. a "must bring to session" kind of snare! this video applies to any snare, FYI
@briansnead4787
@briansnead4787 5 жыл бұрын
How to get a good sound for your kit... Take out a loan or sell your first child...
@thesuccessfulbarber
@thesuccessfulbarber 5 жыл бұрын
Acrolite is a fatter sound
@SD9Driver
@SD9Driver 4 жыл бұрын
LM400 or LM402 is also decent choice. He is right about the throw-off, I upgraded the p-85 to the p-86 millennium .
@Soundsystem001
@Soundsystem001 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you mr Rick . a technicien of Sound from Morocco
@DaveonDrums
@DaveonDrums 4 жыл бұрын
When Rick Beato just casually mentions all the artists he recorded 5:59, and every drum kit sounds absolutely amazing for the song, you realize just how much of a genius he is!
@aaronocelot
@aaronocelot 4 жыл бұрын
ah hah! bottom miking too. I had tried both separately but not together. Thank you!
@dizzolve
@dizzolve 3 жыл бұрын
7:10 very nice. My preferred sound. I'm a rimshotter
@Samuelito8918
@Samuelito8918 2 жыл бұрын
EXCELENT! Thank you
@highvibee
@highvibee 6 жыл бұрын
There’s two kind of drummers, those who hit the drums and those who play the drums. ;)
@chadrushing1202
@chadrushing1202 4 жыл бұрын
Jump, Little Children... Man, you just went up even further past the 100% esteem I already had for ya.
@SteveH4es
@SteveH4es 4 жыл бұрын
Right? They are one of my favorite bands. I heard that and was like wow!
@angelorozul241
@angelorozul241 5 жыл бұрын
thanks Sir Rick. I'll share this link on my fb timeline
@RobynFlansDrummerInterviews
@RobynFlansDrummerInterviews 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoying your videos immensley!
@marcoquevedomusic
@marcoquevedomusic 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your videos!!! I have learned a lot of things because of you! :D But I was wondering if you coul do a video showing a snare drum with an emperor hazy (Remo) or a 500 hazy (evans) snare side heads :) Thanks one more time, you're awesome!
@michaeljuliano8839
@michaeljuliano8839 6 жыл бұрын
Hitting consistent rim shots is all in the positioning of the snare. The snare should be set so that a well-practiced stroke (like a full Moeller Stroke) always lands as a rim shot. This takes the guess work out of the rim shot allowing the drummer to effortlessly play rim shots (I've been drumming for 18 years). Unfortunately, it's too late to develop this once the drummer is in the studio, but it might be something worth mentioning if the drummer is hitting inconsistent rim shots and doesn't have a fragile ego (yeah, right).
@betteroffdead79
@betteroffdead79 2 жыл бұрын
If rim shots are inconsistent in the studio, better to try to convince the drummer to avoid rimshot at all in my opinion. Very delicate matter, highlighting drummer deficiencies during recording can be a session destroyer thing...
@FerretPercussion
@FerretPercussion 4 жыл бұрын
you can think of rimshotting as a way of EQing from the throne. Pick what you need based on what the snare mix needs, rimshot is much louder than center hit btw. shell punch: 250hz - rim + center top head tang: 500-700hz- rim +center rim crack: 1-2khz- rimshot only snare wires: 5-10k - rim + center
@jamesbarron601
@jamesbarron601 3 жыл бұрын
felt furniture feet can achieve the same effect as Moon Gel and costs pennies comparatively. Great video!
@solo2r
@solo2r 5 жыл бұрын
Black Beauty's are brass. I like the 6 1/2" Superphonic Chrome Steel snare sound
@craigusselman546
@craigusselman546 5 жыл бұрын
If your Lars a large pasta pot is ideal. Ps im not a drummer but I could amuse myself for hours with just that snare sounds so good.
@Harrysound
@Harrysound 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your channel boss
@russwilson2305
@russwilson2305 4 жыл бұрын
You can go to a dollar store and but holiday window stickies. You can cut the 4 leaf clover, hearts, or whatevs, into rectangle, if ya want. Works just like a Moon gel, for a fraction of the cost. A pack costs a buck, obviously!
@ALBERTOGARCIA-nk9bo
@ALBERTOGARCIA-nk9bo 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Venezuela Rick. First I want to say thanks for all the time invested in doing this videos. They are extremely helpful and informative. I need to translate all this info to my band drummer (we record music too). I know this video is about snares BUT I can't help to really like all the songs you used form 5:58 to 11:28 really really never heard none of this songs and really like them. It is possible to find this songs list?
@jasonmare33
@jasonmare33 6 жыл бұрын
sounds great brother!
@williambock1821
@williambock1821 6 жыл бұрын
For home studio work it can be more efficient as far as quality/expense ratio to work with just three mics. It’s great to have the option of using ten mics on a kit but with a bit of experimentation you can get very usable recordings with two overheads and one kick mic facing the reso bass head. A condenser along with the kick mic in front as well can really ad more detail if you can manage a fourth mic. Great channel tho! Just found it.
@hickoryhop6728
@hickoryhop6728 4 жыл бұрын
You mention Josh Freese. I recorded at a studio where he had also recorded. A few of his used sticks were left behind. They were clean at the grip and tip but totally chewed up in the middle where, the producer told me, Freese smacked a consistent rimshot on each hit.
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