MUSLIM & CHRISTIAN CLASH AT SPEAKERS CORNER !

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@Historian212
@Historian212 Ай бұрын
Where did the Greek come from? When Alexander conquered the whole area, before the Roman Empire began, from Egypt to the border of what’s now India, they imposed Greek as the lingua franca across the region. While the conquered peoples continued to speak their own languages, they learned Greek to communicate for trade, when traveling, etc. Just as English is now the common language because of the influence of the British Empire, so Greek was by Jesus’ time. (This was called the Hellenistic era, which lasted through the time of Roman rule. The Hellenes were the Greeks.) Therefore, most scholars believe that Jesus spoke some Greek. Ancient Nazareth was only about 5 or 6 km from the cosmopolitan city of Sepphoris, where Greek would have been spoken. As a carpenter, Jesus and Joseph, as craftsmen, would likely have known enough Greek to communicate with those from the city who hired them. The Christian texts as they’ve come down through time were written down in Greek so they could be read by people across the Roman world. Most scholars do agree that normally, Jesus would have spoken Aramaic, which is very close to Hebrew, and used Hebrew in worship and for reading the Torah. But it’s highly likely that he, like many indigenous craftsmen of the area, spoke some Greek. Not that he taught in Greek. What’s hilarious to me, as someone of mixed Christian and Jewish heritage, is that these gentlemen are busy arguing over ancient Jewish prophecy and what it meant, while denigrating and negating the people from whom their texts originated. The development of their ideas of God and prophecy all came from Jewish tradition (which itself developed from indigenous pagan traditions centuries before, then was influenced by Babylonian, Egyptian, and Greek traditions, but I digress). Meanwhile, both of these later traditions are busy insulting the Jewish people, while imposing their sheer ignorance in order to follow their own interpretations of that tradition. The Jews don’t seek to impose their beliefs or practices on anyone else, but those who distort the ancient tradition can only denigrate the Jewish one to justify themselves. I personally don’t care what anyone else believes. Just respect each other. These arguments are useless and worthless. They’ve been going on for over a thousand years. What argument do they think they’re going to make that hasn’t been made millions of times before? The only result is a headache, which I now have from listening to them yell and talk over each other. Leave each other alone, FFS. Have a nice meal. Enjoy the sunshine. This whole thing is ridiculous.
@_Abdussalama
@_Abdussalama Ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah for the blessings of Islam.
@omgittheman8040
@omgittheman8040 Ай бұрын
The Christian won the argument
@badnewsbrown4489
@badnewsbrown4489 Ай бұрын
The Muslims turn into children,insulting and laughing
@ybsnipes26
@ybsnipes26 Ай бұрын
Thats what they do they just start insulting when they dont have comeback thats how i know they wrong😂
@ybsnipes26
@ybsnipes26 Ай бұрын
Christian won debate muslims just insult cant even defend his point if this is how u guys debate u will never get newcomers😂
@Ohemaama
@Ohemaama 13 сағат бұрын
The Muslim men there were disrespectful, loud, and arrogant and want to be right meanwhile the Ghanaian guy was respectful, open and really willing to understand and to get answers to his question
@ybsnipes26
@ybsnipes26 Ай бұрын
Never let this guy speak for muslim people just made a fool out of himself
@stevenjohnson9609
@stevenjohnson9609 Ай бұрын
Id never convert to islam if this is how muslims debate lmao, English obviously wasnt his original language.
@stevenjohnson9609
@stevenjohnson9609 Ай бұрын
Cliff knechtle would wipe the floor with these muslims.
@neomieattah386
@neomieattah386 Ай бұрын
Exactly they just want to debate and “sound right” but the devil has so many lies in the Quran that the Muslims skip over. But Christian evangelist genuinely want people to be saved.
@sanusikabir2883
@sanusikabir2883 Ай бұрын
​@@neomieattah386 instead of speaking from ignorance I'll advice you to actually read the Qur'an then carry your doubts to any scholar and ask questions.
@sanusikabir2883
@sanusikabir2883 Ай бұрын
​@@stevenjohnson9609why not ask him debate any scholar on KZfaq. I've seen several theological debates from so called Christian scholars and they were floored.
@sanusikabir2883
@sanusikabir2883 Ай бұрын
He's very fluent in English even if it isn't his primary language. He's definitely a Ghanian for sure. His intonation tells me that.
@user-ti9zs1pj2h
@user-ti9zs1pj2h Ай бұрын
The brothers were acting immature towards the end. Reminds me of school kids with childish insults. You can’t welcome ppl to debates then act like that when you disagree with them.
@Chasepape_
@Chasepape_ Ай бұрын
This Muslim is completely speaking gibberish
@Butcherboy0107
@Butcherboy0107 Ай бұрын
A wise man once said: Religion is for people who can't handle alcohol. And he may be correct. All the "mine god is the right one and yours not" "no!! Mine is!!" "No mine!!" reminds me of children. Little children fighting about whatever. What shocked me the most is how the islamic part of the discussion (not only the guy who originally discussed) behaved. At first only short interruptions, then starting to mock, insult and yelling the other guy down and pulling even the microphone cause he couldn't or didn't want to follow the chain of reasoning the christian guy wanted to show. And it was actually a good one if he had listened and tried to understand. Most embarrassing was the woman who started to yell and freak out. I thought it was a kind of discussion battle, a fight of arguments. It ended in a big nasty mess... And as a commentor earlier explained: why should they have spoken greek if LATIN was the language of the romans!!??!?!11!? Such an intelligent point of the islamic guy!!!! Hahahahahaha!! Was that funny!!! Or you just have listened to your history teacher as he told about an inconspicuous man from a small place on earth called macedonia who conquered almost the whole freaking world (the parts they knew about obviously) a short time before all the baby jesus stuff happened 🤷‍♂️
@imrammakama5756
@imrammakama5756 Ай бұрын
Just brilliant my Christian brother ❤️
@abdulhamal7588
@abdulhamal7588 Ай бұрын
What is this nasheed called at the beginning
@sosodeff8230
@sosodeff8230 Ай бұрын
This guy really humiliated himself. Alhamdulilah.
@Iam_GodAmbassador
@Iam_GodAmbassador Ай бұрын
Just listen to yourself your are busy worshipping black stone and the sun but still saying you worship God of Israel shame on you
@dantedragneel2989
@dantedragneel2989 Ай бұрын
@@Iam_GodAmbassador You are the one who must a shame, made a god into human, claim HIS has son just to save yourself, which you thinks he can do everything but limited himself to can't forgive a sin without sacrifice . Even made statue and image to him which like pagan do. After HIS tell you doesn't made partnership to him and doesn't made statue on him which is you made his image and statue to limited a god into something human can imagined. God of israel? since when israel can claim a god only for them.
@neomieattah386
@neomieattah386 Ай бұрын
“For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”- Romans 3:23. “For the wages of sin is death. But the free gift is eternal life in Christ Jesus or Lord”- Romans 6:23. It’ll be more humiliating for you in hell for serving a false god.
@consueloreedy9009
@consueloreedy9009 18 күн бұрын
They are so rude and never let him finish his points. Native Americans speak English and some don't.
@Ohemaama
@Ohemaama 13 сағат бұрын
The Muslim man here was insulting and emotional about this discussion
@nechamakermanshahi1280
@nechamakermanshahi1280 Ай бұрын
They are all so obnoxious to him. Putting him down just to make their “point” and when the Muslim guy felt like he might win he was all nice and saying peace be upon Jesus and then when the other guy had a good discourse and was making a point and he couldn’t answer, he started to insult him.
@timothycheng7765
@timothycheng7765 Ай бұрын
Hello! Jesus is not a white man😂😂😂
@TheDragonaf1
@TheDragonaf1 Ай бұрын
"Jesus" as in the Idol made by the Romans and painted as a white man with brown hair by Augustine (not the church father, the painter). The historical man "ishua" (as noted by archeological evidance of his real name) also spoken "Isa" in Arabic yes you are correct would not be white.
@neomieattah386
@neomieattah386 Ай бұрын
@@TheDragonaf1 As a Muslim you are not promised salvation, sad. But Christians true followers of Christ are guaranteed salvation by believing and confessing Jesus- Romans 10:9
@TheDragonaf1
@TheDragonaf1 Ай бұрын
@@neomieattah386 1) Sahih Muslim 93 a 2) you don't keep the covenant of Abraham so you are not a true follower. E.g. the most famous book on theology "the new jerome biblical commentary" when referencing the notion of the historical Jesus upholding the Jewish law, "Jewish Christianity which as a seperate movement was defeated by Paulaism and died out perhaps to be reborn in Islam"...and this is also the opion of HJ Schoeps in his book "Jewish Christianity" who Is a very well known German academic and expert in this topic. Where his quotes (you can find this also in the book "the islamic jesus") "this is a paradox of world historical preportions that Jewish Christianity which faded within the Catholic church (aka Jesus's oringal teachings) was preserved in islam".
@TheDragonaf1
@TheDragonaf1 Ай бұрын
@@neomieattah386 1) Sahih Muslim 93 a 2) you don't keep the covenant of Abraham so you are not a true follower. E.g. the most famous book on theology "the new jerome biblical commentary" when referencing the notion of the historical Jesus upholding the Jewish law, "Jewish Christianity which as a seperate movement was defeated by Paulaism and died out perhaps to be reborn in Islam"...and this is also the opion of HJ Schoeps in his book "Jewish Christianity" who Is a very well known German academic and expert in this topic. Where his quotes (you can find this also in the book "the islamic jesus") "this is a paradox of world historical preportions that Jewish Christianity which faded within the Catholic church (aka Jesus's oringal teachings) was preserved in islam".
@TheDragonaf1
@TheDragonaf1 Ай бұрын
@@neomieattah386 can you explain where it is mentioned I am not promised paradise and 2) why do you think you are a true follower of Christ when you are not an Arab Jew living 2000 years ago?
@consueloreedy9009
@consueloreedy9009 18 күн бұрын
They wasn't giving him hos space and they are on him.
@Iamamuslim3590
@Iamamuslim3590 Ай бұрын
Can any name contains all attributes of God?
@Yourfriendremote2763
@Yourfriendremote2763 Ай бұрын
lol he said they memorizes the Quran and gotta pull up the verse lmfaoo
@TheDragonaf1
@TheDragonaf1 Ай бұрын
I've just realised something should we as Muslims say "Peace be upon from" when saying "Jesus" as he is not dead - should we just stick so saying ISA (AS - "Alahi as sallam")?
@supernice4760
@supernice4760 Ай бұрын
🤔thinking if this I will say that it doesn’t matter if he is dead or not since allah order us in surat ALAHZAB to do same for Mohamed while he still alive.May I be wrong
@TheDragonaf1
@TheDragonaf1 Ай бұрын
@@supernice4760 oh that's a good point. Which verse is that again? It would also make sense when you see documentary/reanactments of the Sahabha (stories of hadith) they say SW even though at the time he would be alive.
@supernice4760
@supernice4760 Ай бұрын
@@TheDragonaf1 surat Alahzab (chapter 33) in the quran verse 56, Quran has been revealed completely while Mohammad was alive as It should be
@neomieattah386
@neomieattah386 Ай бұрын
I feel bad for you. Jesus is coming soon for his people(rapture) then it will be hell on earth(tribulation). Turn to the Savior who died for your sins. Muhammad died, Buddha died, but Jesus is alive. It’s too obvious which religion is true. Also Christianity is more than a religion, it’s a relationship with GOD
@supernice4760
@supernice4760 Ай бұрын
@@neomieattah386 There is no Christianity religion, It is only Islam since Allah created Adam, which is to submit your will to your creator, all the prophets are sent by Allah to teach islam including Jesus. We love all of them, peace and blessings be upon them. We love respect, follow Jesus more than. He is praying prostrate his head in the ground to the one true god which is Allah as we do. he don’t worship idols as we don’t. You don’t follow Jesus!. You call your claimed religion is a relation with GOD!??, better say with GODs😒, We do pray five times, give charity every year, fast the month of Ramadan do HAJ. All good morals and acts we have. You have nothing , you are justing sining and playing around and thinking Jesus has taken all your sins! What about people before Jesus time? Your religion is weak and incomplete while islam is complete. Your book has been corrupted! It is not the original one revealed to Jesus as it is not in original language, it is just translation book. We have Quran in it is original language as it has been revealed to Mohammed ,the last prophet to all mankind which means afterlife is coming after. Your religion has been made by humans…!! Islam is the only true religion since the creation of mankind. Wake up bro your are sleeping😑
@abdulhamal7588
@abdulhamal7588 Ай бұрын
That lady sounded like Hatun lolol
@consueloreedy9009
@consueloreedy9009 18 күн бұрын
Whybthe pushed him?
@UnOrthodox_Christian
@UnOrthodox_Christian Ай бұрын
Christ is Lord.
@Iamamuslim3590
@Iamamuslim3590 Ай бұрын
Bible says God is not man or son of man. So how can jesus be God? Do you really think God became little baby and was feeding on milk? Grow up and accept islam right now.
@badnewsbrown4489
@badnewsbrown4489 Ай бұрын
@@Iamamuslim3590he said Christ is lord not God.
@abdulhamal7588
@abdulhamal7588 Ай бұрын
This was painful to watch.the Christian has nothing except "he speaks waffle"
@invaderopbr
@invaderopbr Ай бұрын
John 1 1 has 2 Jesuses not 1 If the Christians god is a trinity and the word father is not referred to the trinity but to the father alone and the holy spirit word is referred to the holy spirit alone. Then here you go In the beginning was the word (jesus) and the word was with god ( father, jesus , holy spirit) Hahahaha 2 jesuses
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