I only buy used low milage Harleys . Screw the stealership,if it breaks I'll fix it myself.

I've been watching your channel for a few years now and this video has gotten me to subscribe ,you hit the nail right on the head. I recently bought a 2018 heritage Softail. The salesman tried real hard to get me to extend the warranty, it was like he was reading off a script. I told him the only number on that piece of paper I was interested in was the bottom line and the smaller that number the happier I was, he finally caved and said I understand and let it go.im sticking with the 2 years they give. On another note, Harley has more than doubled the price of their service manuals. Like you said, they don't want the average guy working on his own bike. Keep up the good work!

Hi Ryan, I had a customer send me your video and informed me you invited John and I to comment. I’ll add a couple points. 1. As part of the settlement HD had with the EPA back several years ago, HD is not allowed to honor warranty on a bike tuned with a non-EPA compliant tuner. This only applies to 2017 and newer. Changes things doesn’t it? So all the hatred directed at HD for declining warranty claims on engines is misguided because it isn’t necessarily their choice. The bottom line is most aftermarket tuners are ILLEGAL. Unfortunately, HD has to be the one who enforces the law by way of not honoring warranty. Not really fair. 2. I gotta ask everyone. Is it really fair that HD has to pay warranty claims on mechanical failures that involve aftermarket parts installed by weekend warriors? By the way after market parts don’t blanket void the bike’s entire warranty. Engine components (think cams, pistons, etc) and tuners are the worst and will void the power train warranty but not the rest of the bike. Mufflers don’t void the warranty. I personally run rineharts and have a extended service plan that is still good. 3. Screamin’ eagle mufflers are less expensive than the leading aftermarket brand mufflers. 4. Extended service plan (esp) (commonly referred as extended warranty) is available anywhere from an additional 1-5 years added to the end of the 2 year factory warranty. Not just 3 or 5 years. You can keep extending as long as you’re under 75k miles and the bike isn’t older than 11 years old. 5. I personally have been thanked hundreds of times by people I have sold the extended warranty to. I have seen HD pay for just about every possible mechanical failure thinkable over the years. Do a lot of people ride their bike with no issues? Yes, HD makes awesome bikes as you said. I personally have had the ESP on all my bikes and I have all the resources in the world when it comes to getting my stuff repaired. Bottom line, no one will give me free parts or work on my bike for free when something breaks. Some technicians in our shop buy the ESP. These are guys who can do the work themselves, but don’t get replacement parts for free. Plus, now they are working on their bike and getting paid for it. 6. Most “Do-it-yourself” add-ons will never void any major part of your bike’s warranty. So tinker away and enjoy making your bike “your own” 7. Also, when you walk into a dealership no one is forcing you to buy a stupid tee-shirt. 😂 I know you’re joking though. I laughed. 8. I think everyone assumes HD is forcing people to buy their products because they are greedy. Yes, HD wants to make money by selling products. The bigger reason is that their HD components are LEGAL and are designed by the people who built the bike! They aren’t gonna pay for failures on other companies products and honor warranty claims that could send them to court and fined up the ass. Hopefully this helps. Ryan we should ride sometime. I like your content. I feel like it’s been very negative lately though. Why not give HD the benefit of the doubt sometimes? Your channel is about the love of HD motorcycling right? You like your Harley Davidson motorcycle right? Try a positive video next time. Stop advocating that Harley owners are victims. Enjoy the ride.

Totally agree Ryan, here in the U.K. I bought a 2nd hand 48 1200 with 900 miles on, with V&H short shots and stage 1 air intake with screaming eagle fuel pack. After about 6 months I had call from the Harley dealer saying that it needed a service. They quoted me £330 for oil and filter change. After several calls/ emails/ texts I called them to say that it should have been serviced before I took it. No reply. I bought the oils, filter and spark plugs from an independent dealer for £67 an hour of my time. Done. The Stealership told me the warranty would be void, my argument was that as it was a 2 no hand bike the warranty would only be 3 months. Now have a 2011 dyna street bob and will service it all myself. Love the channel mate. Ride safe bro Jon JP👍😎

I bought a 2018 street glide and a 2019 street glide special with VIP service. Took it for first service and spoke to the service guy, then the sales guy, and they both talked me into not doing any upgrades on my bike. I told him they are doing a great job at talking these bikes down. I was very disappointed. Thanks for this video.

I was so glad when they voided mine.after years of never making home from the dealer .i fixed it my self.56000 miles later i still haven't had to push the pos.

I purchased a 2017 RGS when I bought it the dealership wanted to put my exhaust on with a new air cleaner along with the Vance and Hines tuner. Said my warranty would still be valid. So I went home did it myself saved a lot of money asked them if my warranty was going to be void they said no. Now you're saying it will. Going to have another chat with my dealer. They have done a lot of work on my bike and it's always been covered under the warranty. Great video keep up the good work Ryan. Thanks for the info

Found this to be a great source of information. I recently bought a stock Yamaha R6 with the standard warranty. The tried to sell me an extended warranty and I declined. Within a month of buying the bike I put in about $2000 in mods myself. Could also be I would have voided the warranty. Now I am in the market for a StreetGlide and this makes so much sense. Thank you!!

Crap! What a conundrum. I love HD motorcycles but I hate the corporation.

I have owned 2 harleys and I hate to admit I was not smart enough to have learned from the first one. Good video's and I like how unbiased your presentation is.

Just bought a 19 road Glide ultra and I did not buy the warranty. Now listening to you it makes me feel better

Ryan first off I love your videos! Lots of vehicles, bikes out there void the warranty if you do not get the work done by manufacturer. That being said, again your videos are the best. Thanks for the info

The first thing I did was remove the catalytic converter. End of warranty.

I totally agree with everything you said, and I just purchased a 19’ RGU in December. I got the 3yr extension but will not do it again. Truthfully this may be my last Harley bike period.

Great video Ryan I have a 2018 Sport Glide and said no to the ESW glad I did because I got screwed on the one I had on a previous bike.

Ryan thanks for the great vlog. Very interesting. Matt and John have great channels with a lot of information. Be Safe Be Cool🇺🇸🏍

Another info packed video Ryan! I purchased an 18 Ultra Limited 8 months ago from the local dealership in my city and opted for the extended warranty too. This was my first H-D so, I wanted to protect my investment but, I definitely feel the pinch when I carry it in for a routine service. My thought process is I'll work on what won't void the warranty and have it serviced during promotional specials as needed. What's done is done and the money it'd cost to fight H-D over (Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975) would be a lot more than their labor/parts. Ultimately, it's about developing a relationship with your dealership so, they'll be more willing to work with you if they can.

Extended warranties usually a bad deal on anything but it’s sad Harley just keeps making bad decisions lately and at loyal customers expense.

Good video. When I decided to do my stage 2 and keeping my warranty was important, so I stuck with SE and it paired well with my TAB slipons. For the price I got some good improvements on my 107 2018 Heritage softail.

I grew up with Harkeys in the ‘70 - wouldn’t ride a thing else .. at 54 I purchased a 2019 Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster - it’s not a Harley .. but I could have purchased 2 for the price of an equivalent Harley.. not to mention all the bells and whistles weren’t extra - great video brother! I’m now a subscriber

In reference to the extended warranty after 60 days. I've had my 2019 CVO Limited for 6 months. I decided to have the dealer install a Stage 4 kit with high flow exhaust system. Being aware of this ridiculous 60 day warranty issue, I asked the dealer, what happens if my motor blows up in a year. At first, they said no problem but they decided look further into it. My Harley dealer at Cowboy Austin called Harley HQ for any way I could get around this issue. It turns out, the only way to get covered for the factory warranty and the 3 year ESP. I had to cancel my current ESP plan, then purchase a new Screaming Eagle plan. So, I cancelled my ESP and bought a new one. It turns out, that the refund from the original warranty was enough to pay for the new on! So now, they are installing my Stage 4 mod with a high flow exhaust system with both low and wide band tuners. Now I am covered for the full 5 years! You might want to followup with Harley to verify it but I feel very confident I am covered. BTW, I love your videos! Ray

I bought my 2018 road glide ultra. Made sure all the recalls were taken care of. Now I made it my own. Don’t care about warranty. I’m just enjoying every day I get to live to ride my bike. All the parts I took off to replace went straight to the dumpster. Enjoy life 👍

RYAN YOU ARE SO 100 % ABOUT HARLEY'S . I HAD 4 OF THEM AND KNOW , NO MORE. I GET THE FEELING THAT I JUST GETTING RIPP OFF . BIKES , SERVICES AND ACCESSORIES. THANK YOU . SPOT ON . !!!!

I bought a 2018 Road Glide Special in January '19. Sure glad I didn't opt for the ESP. With that said, I HAVE upgraded to Stage 2 but felt it best to stay with the Screamin' Eagle Torque Cam in order to avoid warranty issues. After two years, I'll reevaluate the SE Cam. Thanks for the video!

Because of your video Ryan, I'm moving forward with adding aftermarket performance exhaust to both my 2019 Road Glide Special and my wife's new 2019 Road King Special.

Already been subscribed to both John and Matt for at least 2 years now.

Warranty voided on mine for aftermarket tuner that the dealer put on the bike. Had a 124 installed by and Indy shop. Wow like a new bike and runs without problems.

No problem. When I got my Road King back from the stealer after the 1K break-in service one of the 5 bolts were missing from the primary cover! And the original oil filter was still on the bike. I have the Service manual and a brain and a good set of tools.

I'm with you - I will NEVER buy another HD ESP. Of the 3 Harley touring bikes I've owned, I had the ESP on 2 of them - the first '06, I skipped it on the '13, and I have it on the '15. I've been fortunate that I haven't needed them. So, lots of money for NADA (so far, knock wood). Important to note that their new warranty voiding per the EPA settlement is specific to 2017 and newer ie, the Milwaukee 8 motor. So - no more ESP, no forced Screaming Eagle parts, no forced HD dealership installs. I'm sick of HD and their overpriced bullshit - I have zero desire to buy anything else from them.

Thanks for this info Ryan, I have a 2018 SGS and was considering the extended warranty. Not happening now. If it wasn't bad enough seeing major manufacturing moving over seas and now this. The Davidson brothers were turning over in there graves when this American icon moved, now there climbing out of the ground. This violets the vary principles that this American brand (I'm Canadian, and sadden by the changes) was founded upon to which you eluded to, that being able to customize it the way YOU want it!!!!!!!! This probably will end up being nothing more than rant by all of us because the people that need to understand aren't even looking to see what the public thinks. Or are they? If someone from Harley Davidson is watching, why don't you reveal yourself, and comment on these findings?

I hear you! I'm in CA, and these letters C.A.R.B. strike fear in me. On my Sportster there were approved after market items for Stage 1. For my Low Rider, I'm going to stay stock. It works for me as is, it's the best bike I have ever had so far. If I change my mind and get Stage 1 for my Low Rider one day, but only if my (Extended and factory) warranty plans stay in effect!

I have a 2015 Roadglide CVO I bought new. I now have 60k miles on it. I have the extended warranty and it has been will worth it. $4K in parts and labor over the past 5 years with no engine parts failing. The last was a new heated seat and heated grips that filed. No fuss. Santa Maria Ca Harley was great.

I'm glad I haven't had any problems with my 2019 road king special that would involve warranty work and I did install tuner, exhaust and air cleaner all purchased from the harley dealer. Purchased v&h tuner, v&h exhaust and harley high flow kit. The dealer told me they would warranty my bike just not the v&h parts, other then the harley air cleaner kit. If my bike ever needs warranty work and they deny me, that will be the last time I own a harley and I think that's bad business to do to someone like me that purchases a new harley every 2 to three years. 1999 fatboy, 2005 wide glide, 2007 heritage, 2013 heritage, 2016 street Bob, 2016 road glide, 2017 street glide, and now 2019 road king special.

$ 2600.00 for extended warranty is a rip off

Hi Ryan: first of all I really appreciate your knowledge & experience with HD. I may be an outlier here. I am definitely a gray beard who has 30+ years of motorcycle riding experience. However I have been a Honda & BMW man but always wanted a Harley Davidson. Last week I bought a new 2021 Road Glide Limited. I also bought the 5 year extended service plan. I have no interest in wrenching or increasing power so that’s not an issue, at least for me. I just want to ride & take extended road trips with the peace of mind of a extended warranty. That’s why I am probably not typical compared to most riders. Just really stoked to start riding this spring up here in Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 Thanks for all you do .

Ryan, I purchased a 5 year ESP when I bought my 2015 FLTRXS; I called H-D customer service regarding my 5 year ESP and was told that the ESP ran current with my factory warranty. So in essence my 5 year ESP was good for only 3 years past my factory warranty and was told that the ESP expired January 2020. After knowing what I know now I would wait to my factory warranty was almost expired before buying an ESP at a much lower rate; I just recently bought another 3 year ESP. I had to use my ESP on my FLTRXS last year as my transmission developed a class III leak and needed repaired; the cost for that was approximately $1600 and only cost me my $50 deductible; so the ESP almost paid for itself. Enjoying the content of your videos.

Man I am so pissed about this. Frankly I will not buy a new Harley Davidson ever I will stick with the used one and I will do all the work on it myself the hell with their warranty

I just bought a 2018 roadglide and I didn't get the extended warranty. I did pay for the stage one from them just to keep the factory warranty. I'm not happy about it, but I love the bike.

Hi John, great information. Thank you. The people I've talked to who have purchased the new Milwaukee motor simply say, don't do it. I'm the ole 96 engine type. If I was after horsepower, dependability and state of the art equipment I'd put a few $K more in and buy a Goldwing. I own one of both. The Harley is to get my buds who are living so far in the past they still think of Harley as an American bike off my butt. The Wing....it's for serious riding where power and comfort are necessary. Oh by the way, my Wing is pre 2012 and was built in South Carolina.

Great video sir. I just bought a barely used 2017 - 1200 Custom for my wife. I had a set of V&H Slipons in closet to put on it. Called the dealer to ask about warranty issues and as you stated the muffs were not an issue. I am having them remap it though, because I did purchase a 3 year extended warranty. I never get warranties however the towing and free rental and lots of little crap made sense to me. I ride an 03 Dyna so I have a field day with doing my own thing there. Im by no means well off but, with wifes Im just trying to think a bit more carefully.

Harley financing knocked 1% off financing rate from 7.9% (they didn't give me the rate in writing), if I bought the 5 year extended warranty on new 2019 Road King so interest savings pretty much evened the costs out. I know that here will be a fight for any warranty because I bought Screaming Eagle parts with bike but then installed them myself to save over $2000 for

They can’t void your warranty due to aftermarket parts, have you guys ever heard of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, I know this for a fact because my last Harley blew up under warranty, with Vance and hinds pipes and turner, they said my warranty was void until I brought this up, guess what they fixed it, lol with new engine. They have to physically prove damage was due to the aftermarket parts, in my case there was a machining defect, when they took it apart.

I have been in the industry going on 16 years with a 50/50 split dealer, aftermarket and now back at a dealer. I see both sides of it.

I completely appreciate your transparency and honesty. I am a fan of OEM exhaust and lighting. I will be ordering a 2022 LTD in a couple days. I so much want to stick with an OEM exhaust, intake, and lighting, but I also don’t want any questions with warranty status.

I’ve gotten extended warranty & tire & wheel insurance too with every new Harley..... has paid for itself Every Time! I’m disabled on fixed income and a Patriot... soooooo no surprise repair cost for Me! EVER!.... OEM Everything for Me! 🇺🇸 God Bless Patriots 🚁🇺🇸🌟✨

Bikers worrying about the warranty! LOL I voided the warranty on my 2018 FLHC the day after I bought it. My warranty is ME. Unless you have an exceptional dealer service department, I wouldn't trust them to touch the bike anyway. Here's the reality with the M8, they are so emissions burdened and run so lean that you are actually limiting the life if you don't modify them. I have 20 degree cooler head temps after a canned FP3 tune here in Florida. Hmm, 2 years running hot and lean? I'll risk voiding that short-term warranty for the long-term benefits.

Great video. I bought my bike with the intent of leaving it bone stock other than a passenger seat, pegs, and in the future a bag. I considered a two-brothers racing exhaust, your video changed my mind because I did buy the 3 year extended warranty. Thank you for the heads up. I'll stick to my original plan and keep it stock. The dealer will do all of my services.

Thank you for this great video! I was on the fence my 2018 streetglide special two years warranty is almost up and I was going to purchase three more years but I’m not doing it now! Even though I’m a little scared of transmission oil migrating to primary I installed the thicker clutch rod also installed a vent for my engine oil for slumping worries! Harley is dumbing up for these issues!

My warranty is I fix it myself.

Lol, I've never taken my bike to Harley for any work. Buy a service manual and work on it yourself.

I have a 2001 FLSTF and have had it since new. I bought a 3 year extended warranty on it but that was a waste of money as nothing ever happened to the bike. I have 65K miles on the bike so yes I do ride it. I'm glad that my bike has a carb as I'm really good at tuning carbs and cleaning them. If I replace the pipes and I have several times over the years I can up or down the main jet as needed hell if I wanted to put an S&S Super E on it I could, probably not because I kinda like the CV carb that it came with. Last Winter I went to replace the cam chain tensioners and notice a bit of wear on the cams so I replaced them with modern tensioners. I also replaced the Transmission seal and the Primary Chain Case tensioners, then I put new white wall Harley Dunlops on it along with a new throttle cable. The crazy things you do during the cleveland winters. I put HD Hard Bags on the bike and now the match the fairing I put on it 10 years ago. I took off the full size tour pack that I had on it and put on bullet LED turn signals and it looks pretty cool now. I roll up and buys are like when did you get the street glide or electra glide. I'm like it's a Fat Boy Einstein, don't the solid wheels give that much away? I think I'll probably just keep this bike forever and just doing whatever I need to to keep it on the road. Maybe next winter I'll do a 6 speed transmission upgrade.

Great video! I recently bought a 2017 road king with 18K miles on it. it is my daily rider. I commute about 90 miles a day and do a little weekend tiding on it. I did buy the ESP for a couple reasons. 1. it is the first model year of a complete redesign of the bike and motor. 2. rumors of the oil pump issues. 3. I plan on trading it in at about 50K miles or so for a newer bike. 4. I do not plan to modify the bike because I need the reliability for every day commuting. so the ESP will work in this case. I will get rid of the bike in a couple years when it still has value for another bike. I will decide then on if I will get another ESP on the new bike. just a different perspective. BTW - I also have a 2004 wide glide that is completely free of the confines of any warranty and it is no holds barred on modifying the motor. Good things to come for it:). thanks for keeping things real.

I’ve seen the guy with the beard that’s the Harley tech I had a question about a 2009 fuel injection system on my bike and he’s never heard of that problem. That being aside he works for a dealership and can only say so much I think the most honest people are people like you or someone else that does not have an affiliation with the company or a dealership .. the local dealer here is just terrible in northern Indiana

Love the ending on the MEETING. LMAO 😆😅 I believe that was there plan

Just bought a new 2020 RG Limited - and haven't taken delivery yet. I opted against the extended warranty this time. Glad I did after watching this video. I did buy it on my 2017 RG Ultra. Harley Davidson is good at squeezing money out of its customers.

Hey Ryan....very interesting video and info bout warranties. I purchased a new 21 Tri-glide and they (dealership) charged me for the extended warranty without my consent. Found out when they explained all figures on bill of sale. At that point I questioned the charge. So they did not want to re-do paper work...guess they figured I'd give in. Nope...I said I could request a refund. Bottom line after 2 months I did get a refund. They are pretty slick ! Enjoy your info ....

Good quality machines? I made the mistake of jumping on the M8 in 2017. Should never buy a first year anything. Trans to primary migration right off the bat. Fast forward to 2019 and people are still experiencing it. See HD Forums. If they want to force us to buy SE parts then how about you consider the cost of these parts when you offer us a trade in value? I didn’t think so. Prices are up, trade in value down and you can’t do what you want to your bike you laid down your hard earned money for. Fixed my own transfer issue cause HD can’t figure it out. And that by a “weekend warrior” as Laidlaw likes to call us. Guess what Matt, I was an industrial mechanic for a major chemical plant for 40 years. I can wrench circles around 3/4 of your so called expert techs.

Never buy an extended warranty from HD. I did not on my 2017 RGS. The selling dealer acted.like I was crazy and said "oookayyyy" like I was 8 years old. I have since put a stage 3 zippers sleeper kit on it, with dd billet cat, with a pro tune. I will eat a stage 4 SE bike for breakfast

I agree with you 100% I had Harley dealership add the extended warranty on my bike and this was added to my finance that was $1300 and I told the dealership 5 times that I didn’t want this warranty. After I got on to legal services they refunded the money back off the loan plus minus interest out of that $1300. The scums are nothing but rip offs. I got my new bike and don’t deal with low life Harley dealerships again. I fabricate my own accessories now and cost me 20 times cheaper then the dealership and better quality.

I'm like you I only used the warranty once ever in 10 years with two Harley-Davidson bikes and it was a minor repair so spending that kind of dough for extended warranties is exactly ridiculous and I will never do it ever again!

Great info! Thanks Ryan!

Here in the UK they seem a lot more lax about the warranties. Had a new street bob with vance & hines straightshots & FP3 installed by the dealer with the warranty intact. Must be because the US have had a lot to deal with concerning emissions.

I bought 2020 Softail I just traded it in with 46000km on it I did a lot of riding went through 4 tires on back one on the front warranty saved me there engine no problems what so ever just upgraded to the 2022 road glide plus got the extended warranty as well

Probably the biggest reason why I buy used! Pay 1/2 price, i make the warranty claim, i approve it, i authorize the repair facility, I pay for it! Done! Especially when adding parts! With you tube today almost anyone can do their own repairs and mods. Great video. Thanks

I bought a new 2019 ultra limited a few months ago. They told me about the warranty saying "if you come in with slip ons installed they COULD void the warranty, a full exhaust system they said they would definately void it." I put on a stage 1 with cobra mufflers and a harley air intake and even used their street tuner at home to tune it on my laptop. Then took it in for a 1000 mile service and they didnt say anything to me about the pipes or anything. So I'm not sure if they sent my info to Harley or what. The mechanics said they could also tell if I swapped out the aftermarket for the stock to take it in for service cause the ecm can tell the difference in back pressure. HD=another Hundred Dollars.

If you don’t take the warranty at the time of purchase, they will call you regularly to try to sell you again.

Thanks for the info I bought a 2017 when they came out and bought a 5 year extended warranty 😡 since then I have put a stage 1 with fuel pak 3 Didn't know it would void my warranty. I will never buy another extended warranty again ever from Harley Davidson.

Good video thanks for the info I Remember awhile back when I went to one of the H-D dealers to purchase my bike the finance manager kept on pushing me to get the extended warranty I told him I didn’t really needed it cuz I’m not gona ride that much he straight up told me “well then how am I suppose to make my profit” I got up and left the next day I went to a different harley dealer and had the best experience ever the sales person and the finance manger were not pushy at all and didn’t force me to add something I didn’t want that dealer made me wanna come back and buy another motorcycle for future purchases

spoken like a true salesman Matt! its feeds the family I get it. Thank you Ryan!

I have a problem with this because in a sense it violates the right to repair bill. There is a point that I could understand like heads, cams, etc. But exhaust, air filters including mapping is okay. Congress revamped the right to repair bill because of things exactly like this. John Deere did the same thing with farmers.

Ryan-You are providing a great service for Bikers here. Well Done. I am fortunate enough to live in 2 countries and have a 2018 CVO in Australia and older SG in Thailand. I’ve been riding HD’s for 30 years. I purposely installed a Screaming Eagle Tuner on the CVO (but also installed Cobra Headers and Slip On’s) for the very reason you alerted everyone too in regard to warranty. In many cases the warranty will also come down to how hard your Dealer is prepared to bat for you. I’m ex Automotive Industry myself (not Bikes) and whilst many Dealers will state the ‘Void Warranty’ party line this is not the truth nor legal at least in Australia. What it boils down to is if the aftermarket part caused the failure. If the aftermarket part didn’t cause the failure, then the Manufacturer must honor the warranty. If it did cause the failure, then obviously the warranty is rightfully voided. The problem with this is that most people don’t have the energy, know-how or money to take on the Manufacturers if they wish to get obstinate and flaunt the law for the sake of profits. I love my HD’s but must say they have completely lost the plot. A premium priced product demands a premium aftermarket service and unfortunately today HD is a long way away from that. There is no surprise in HD's continuing loss of Market Share. If you want to check out some rides in Australia or Thailand then check out my Channel named Glav’s World.

Hi there I have a 17 Limited I had the dealer do the SE big bore kit stage 3 and I also got the ESP. I wanted to make sure I was covered . I've owned 6 other Harley's this is my first new one. I have 21K on it just used Esp for the first time it was worth it to me $50 deductable was a lot easier to pay than a $300 dollar repair. I had a 08 classic with a esp on it used it 5 times but the problem was when there was a failure that took out a SE part the coverage would only give you the OEM part I paid the difference to put the SE camshafts back in. That is why I went with the SE upgrade right from the get go. I have very respectable power. The stock 107 was a dog compaired to my old bike, now it out performs my old bike. Really part of what it boils down to is if you don't want an ESP That at the end of 2 years your out of warranty any way. Also I would like to say you are doing a great job you have a lot of great content keep it up

Hey Ryan .. No thanks on these new Harleys....I'll Stick with my Twin Cams!!! These new bikes are too expensive too complex Computerized to death...and made for Yuppies pretty much RICH Yuppies at that .... Love your Wrenching Videos You've been a Great help at times ... Peace..

Its feeling more and more like HD thinks that they're doing us a favor for buying their products. I'm tired of it.

Thank you for the video. It really give me insight before I jump into buying a Harley and it helps me to make decision what steps I should take. I would love to be part of the Harley's family, but the price of a bike is so expensive because of the Harley's tax. So I definitely will go to the used Harley market instead, and will not buy the Harley's warranty. The Harley's tax is ridiculous, they should copy the car industry, by price matching their products with the after market products. I understand this because my BMW M3, I buy OEM part for my car and I reduce the maintenance cost. The video is very informative, and you just got a subscriber.

Hi Ryan. Great video! Interesting to see the context the other side of the pond. I'm not sure what the dealer attitude would be here in UK. I have no complaints so far, even though my 2017 FXDLS needed a new crankcase at 7 mths under warranty due to a machining fault near one of the studs. Was off the road for 7 weeks waiting for parts, but they lent me a brand new Road King, so not much hassle.

On the ESP. I bought a 3 year with my bike and it was only covered for 3 years from date of purchase. It was 2 year factory and 1 extra but they pass it off as a 3 year plan. Just another deceitful act by the MC

Thank god I saw this Video. My dealer has been after me through postcards to buy the extended warranty. I'd rather throw my money at some homeless shelters. Thanks for the INFO.

I bought the 5 year extended, upgraded to stage III, SE pipes, radio upgrades + other items to my 2018 RGU. sounds good and have the piece on mind. have 2011 FLHTK no warranty issues have both. did extended since all is covered for 7 years most out of pocket $50 bucks. But I agree with you on the tuner and pipe restrictions but SE pipes do sound good with stage III. hopefully I made the correct decision but so far love the 18 RGU.

Love what ur sayin...and we have always been modifying them....and always will ...Things will get better U watch!!!

It happened to me. My local dealership, where I bought my 2017 FLHXS, knew I had a "non-compliant tuner" (the official language in the EPA ruling and the ONLY thing the EPA demands they void the warranty over) and they were cool with it. I had a couple of minor issues that were fixed under warranty, including a couple of tires and one wheel. In Sturgis last year, my stator went out. I was able to get it in to Black Hills HD right away and they got it fixed relatively quickly. But they charged me $750 because of my "non-compliant tuner." Any tuner that is not CARB certified is non-compliant - interesting because CARB is a California state agency. There are only two tuners that meet that criteria - HD's and the California version of the FP3 - my FP3 was the 49-state version because it is not hamstrung like the CARB tuners are. I have a Pro-pipe and a HD heavy breather, too, but they did not void over the pipe. In fact, the factory reps were there and told me they did not care about pipes. I blasted those reps for three solid days until the finally agreed to refund my money - but they would not unflag my VIN - my warranty was still voided. As soon as I got home, I sold back my 5-year ESP - it was worthless. The problem with the EPA ruling AND HD policy (and I agree that the MoCo "conspired" with the EPA to get this ruling) is that it is in direct conflict with the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975. The law was established because manufacturers were voiding warranties for the most frivolous of reasons. If your transmission went out and you had an aftermarket radio - void. Aftermarket tuners - according to the EPA ruling and embraced by HD - void the entire powertrain part of the warranty. Magnuson-Moss requires that the manufacturer prove the aftermarket part CAUSED the failure, otherwise the warranty MUST be honored. My stator did not go bad because I have a FP3 - the reps even agreed that it could not have been the cause - but because the EPA ruling requires HD to basically break the law, they go along with it. It is beneficial to them in a big way. If the factory really valued its customers, they would have fought the EPA on those grounds - that the ruling violates the law. And the dealers - the ones who aren't in bed with the factory like Black Hills HD is - are scared. I will NEVER by a brand new Harley again. I will be sure that my money, whenever possible, goes to the dealer, the aftermarket - anywhere but into a manufacturer's pocket that doesn't give two shits about me. I was so pissed I almost bought an Indian. When it comes time for my next bike, I still might. Their warranty is not worth the paper it's written on.

Any new vehicle, motorcycle or car, that only comes with a two-year warranty is not worth purchasing. If Harley wants to charge as much for a motorcycle as a nice new car then they better be willing to give the same type of warranty.

I had bought the 5 year extended service plan when I bought my 2018 sport glide. Had the bike a couple weeks and the speedo fogged up to where you couldn't read it. Harley said this was not covered under warranty. I realized they were going to use this excuse for everything so I cancelled my extended service plan and got my money back. I added aftermarket pipes and tuner so I knew forget any warranty from Harley. More people should know this before buying anything from Harley. Thanks for your info.

imformative video made me start to think, Just bought my first Harley a week ago 2021 EGS only 8 miles on it and i got the ESP and Gap protection

I have no problem to run stock until warranty is over

When I get my new Iron 883, i'll only put slip ons.... Too many mods lower the value and cause reliability issues.

I have an 18 HD Road Glide Special and did NOT buy the ESP, My wife has a 2016 Tri Glide and also Didn't get the ESP.September gives me my 2 years and then I'll do my performance upgrades, as I Don't use Screaming Eagle Products.Great Video, I checked out Matt Laidlaw's comments, 50/50 with him, also Love his and John Maxwell's Channels.Keep up the Great Work and Thank you for Having Our Backs.

2014 CVO I have the extended warranty it’s running out next year. I have the Vance and Hines header and Fullsac baffles. I never put a tuner on the bike almost a few times. I’m just scared about that Warranty I do a lot of traveling. The bike does not run Lane so that should be fine actually 38,000 miles it runs OK I mean it runs good. All Harley is running really rich especially with a Harley tuner which I’ve had in the past. I’ve replaced two radios 1 Amp Break side handlebar switch on a CVO they are lit. Water pump, lots of wheel bearings. What else neck bearings bad. First 14 out of York. Anyway I’m thinking about getting another extended warranty very expensive. Talking about $2600 I made who could run with the catalytic converter on that’s crazy very hot. Thanks for your videos I enjoyed it very much

i have the 7 year plan on my 2017 i am covered till 2024

I have used the mm act against Harley-Davidson with success myself. For same issues. Mods. They assume everyone are ignorant to their rights.

Great to see Jim & Bill again, really enjoying your channel Ryan 👍👍👍

I have all Vance and Hines stage one upgrade done by myself and a knowledgable friend,, so pipes , air filter, and fuel pac, nothing else done ro the motor other than oil changes done byyself with amsoil, and it runs like a dream, and will continue to do oil changes myself and as much work as i can do myself on it...knock on wood, my bike is a 2013 fatboy lo and i never had any problems with it so far

After 1 year on my 18', I said screw the warranty. It's my motorcycle, I'll do whatever the hell I want to modify it.

"We have been trying to contact you about your Harley's extended Warranty"

This is what i did. I refused buying any extended warranty, Vip service package. Just bought the bike plain. Then use the money I saved to buy a good air hydraulic jack, mechanic tool set, break moisture meter, tension tool, a service manual and redline oil and kn filter plus all the funnels etc. and do all my work myself. Using only servicr manual and KZfaq. (This channel is one of the best for teaching) I’m about to do the 1k service myself and I’m going to do all service/ mod on my bike myself. (Have already done saddle bag and wind splitter) save a lot money and gain valuable skills.

I wish I had seen this 6 months ago. I purchased a 2018 Street Glide and as part of the deal I wanted a 5 year extended warranty thinking that I would have 7 years worth of warranty. Nope, I had purchased 3 other bikes from this dealer so I made some wrong assumptions. First what I found was that the 5 year warranty was not 5 years.at all. 2 years of that warranty went concurrent with the 2 year factory warranty, I should have read the fine print. So what I got was a 3 year extended warranty for the price of 5 and the dealer basically told me TFB. This the last one I will buy.... but then I am 73 and I will likely not buy another new bike before hang my boots up. Thanks for the informative video.

I love my Harley but on the other hand I hate Harley 🤷🏼‍♂️

My Harley is still in the dealership. It's waiting on me to hit the lottery. 😎

Good to hear the downside from a HD fan. Keep it coming. 👍

Had two electra glides, 2005 and 2011. Loved the 2005 with the 88 engine. The 2011 had a death wobble....got rid of it. Now, I’ve also heard that Harley denies allot of warranty claims but fully agree that the warranty should not apply to weekend warriors. The gold wing or other big bikes just seem the better choice