The worse is only because France didn't want it, Germany bought it for the cavalry.

You're not telling the truth. In 1877-78, the Russian Army was armed with Berdan rifles and carbines, 1870 model, Colt revolvers, winchesters... The Ottoman Empire lost all the wars with Russia, (including this war strategically and tactically, on the battlefields). I think that if the Porta had not oppressed its Christians, but continued its development, as in 16 (without interventions to Russia), then there would not have been such wars.

@@user-yy9hg4qc5k He is telling the truth. He did not say the Ottomans didn't lose. He just quoted wikipedia in which the number of the victims are presented. Yeas, Russian and Romanian casualties were significantly higher than Turkish ones. This is partially due to superior rifles in Turkish army, partially due to the fact that Turks were defending fortified positions. Turks lost this war because they were heavily outnumbered. When they occupied the Balkans, it was usually the other way around. Now they tasted their own recipe... On the other hand, for Russia the Christian oppression was just a pretext. Russian Empire expansion targeted Christian lands, too: Ukraine, Poland, half of Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Armenia etc etc

If you're going to look at it from Wikipedia, look right, the Turks weren't outnumbered in Pleven, I don't understand why you have the habit of lying to the Turks.

@@evelynn5000 Not the Turk was definitely being out number from all side they was forced being into seige. Beside the it always obvious the Russian have more man than the Turk especially when turk was some was being disarray.

It's a girl actually, she lied to be a guy so she could participate with her older brother in the war.

@@RomanianOrder, ah, that is why I love her. ;-P

what time

Does the trumpet has any function from a military point of view? I hear him/her just play again and again the same notes.

@@amtmannb.4627, of course. The trumpet leads the troops. They charge when and where the trumpet sounds.

Its so awesome theres many many battles in Europe that are unknown to us Americans stuff youtube has brought to millions and im grateful for it ive learned more on youtube than all my years at school i mean that too

Unknown to you, NOT to Americans. While your grasp on world history may be lacking, that is not necessarily reflective of “us Americans.”

Siz Amerikalıların dedeleri olan Avrupalıları 600 yıl Türk Osmanlı imparatorluğu yönetti , sana Avrupalıları savaşlarda nasıl tokatladığımızı istersen anlatırım 😀

@marchutton7640 Because he does not know should not disqualify him and reflection might be necessary, I mean not yerking off Europe but they know a lot of history especially the Balkans. Side Note: I was gonna say their history for Europeans but ehh... well either way I believe we tumble into this kind of stuff because it seems obscure and vacant from understanding making us curious.

Most things are unknown to muricans.

Yanınızda Ruslar olmasaydı asla biz Türkleri yenip bağımsızlığınızı almazdınız

Biz Türklerin Romanya'yı 400 yıl yönetmesi daha büyük bir başyapıt 😀😀

​@@cemugurgun5537😂😂😂😂😂YOU MAKE ME LAUGH YOU NEVER RULED ROMANIA YOU ONLY MANAGED TO LOSE MILLIONS OF SOLDIERS

​@@cemugurgun5537De ce nu vorbim turceste atunci? Plateam tribut, si ne mai razboiam din cand in cand cand se umfla tarata in voi. Pentru o tara asa mica cum eram, v-ati cam luat-o in barba sincer.

One problem with that was that the american winchester used to overheat very quickly thus one of the reasons for them to fail but romanians did show bravery. I applaud them

We🇧🇬 are a big enemies of Ottomans, the enslaved and killed our people during 500 years

@@velikoslavia1416 ...yah, the Balkans don't like colonialism or imperialism no matter what people bring it or supply it.

@@velikoslavia1416 siktir

Winchesters were used by Turkish irregulars. Regulars used UK-made Martini-Henries. Tte Ottomans simply bought them from their respective countries just as the Romanians bought their rifles.

Dacă ne uităm la pierderile reale, românii otomani i-au zdrobit și pe ruși.

Um... Romania took South Dobruja by force in the 3rd Balkan war. Bulgaria refused to give South Dobruja. As Bulgaria refused to respect the treaty, Romania got triggered and planned invading Bulgaria, but Russia stopped Romania in time. When the Balkan war came, and Bulgaria invaded Greece and Serbia, the campaign of Romania invading Bulgaria from north was a success, which led to the Ottomans joining the war against Bulgaria too. As Bulgaria was surrounded, they capitulated, and gave Romania South Dobruja, Turkey got land too, Greece and Serbia gained more land too, resulting Bulgaria to be cut from the Aegean Sea.

And you were actually supposed to give all Dobruja region, not just north.

@@acmusic9974 First - what connection does what you wrote have with the Russo-Turkish War of Liberation of 1877-1878? I will answer you - none :)

@@acmusic9974 Second, you are seriously mistaken. For example - there is no such thing as a Third Balkan War. There is the First Balkan War of 1912-1913 (the union of Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece and Montenegro against the Ottoman Empire (the Turks). There is also the Second Balkan War of 1913 - Bulgaria against Serbia, Greece, Montenegro and the Ottoman Empire + Romania, which included in the war with a great desire to annex territories from Bulgaria. The Second Balkan War broke out because huge territories, almost entirely inhabited by the Bulgarian population, remained under Serbian, Greek and also Turkish occupation, which carried out genocide against the local population characterized by many massacres, ethnic cleansing and even with the forced replacement of the Bulgarian names of the population with the names of the occupiers, as well as a ban on speaking the Bulgarian language. Women, children and newborns were not spared in the massacres... The Turks were the most diligent in torture and massacres. The same atrocities are committed by the Romanians in the Bulgarian regions of Northern and Southern Dobrudja, so the entire Bulgarian population is outraged by the atrocities on Sonaro his days remaining in the occupied territories and as a result the Second Balkan War began.

Zerg charge!! / ants's charge

David Ramos Vlad Tepeş?

The charge of Ottoman Empire and Fatih Sultan Mehmet(2.Mehmet Han)

=D

Stop it!

Yeah its terrible and amazing how time and time again military powers back in the day would just throw thousands of young men many not even 18 years old into almost certain death over and over and over until they gained a little ground and it was a “victory” and the thing that gets me is how did these countries keep fighting every 10 years with such large casualties the population was just mainly fighting men and boys it must have been idk how otherwise..

Takes a lot of manpower to do anything like that with any success and usually if you dig in hard like that the enemy will simply not attack there.

@@jimbob465 until that the trench some how reach to sea or other impassable terrain. Then everyone have no choice but to break through frontal charge to the entrench enemy. Which was the case of WW1. Literally trench everywhere.

Accuracy had a lot to do with it. Rifles up to the American civil war where horribly inaccurate. So to get an effective volley you needed to line everyone up and fire all at once. Otherwise, nobody would hit anything.

Battle of Alesia, Julius Caesar ordered his legions to dig thousands of foot sized holes and place a spike of metal or a small wooden stake in them. These acted like punji pits from the Vietnam war era. Disrupted Gallic charges and broke horses legs if the cavalry charged. The Roman line encircled the Gallic city was a multiple layered defence in depth Palisade and ditch fortification which faced inwards towards the besieged city and outwards to fend off the reinforcements coming to relieve the siege. The final days battle if the numbers are to be believed is still one of the bloodiest most devastating days in Human history.

Especially a full frontal attack uphill on a fortified position!

Comparing the confederacy and the romanian principalities is actually not that far of a stretch considering the fact that wallachia and moldavia were the only medieval european entities practicing slavery based on race.

mine to but Ottoman side. respect to romania from Turkey

mine to in the Ottoman side

Sounds like a old timey cartoon

Romanian movies.! Very nice.

Pentru Patrie

Normandy would disagree

@@justinmacarrhur1924 The allies had to tidal wave the Axis forces with lots of bodies until they drowned in blood and guts. It was very messy.

@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 and ? It had to be done and it worked.

Even if it works the casualties are heavy

Soviets, Chinese and IRGC human waves refuse to agree.

Most infantry in those days were peasants who couldn’t comprehend actual tactics, so everyone just worked with what they had. That goes double for film directors.

It works only if the attacker achieves surprise and the defender is not fortified on all sides. Otherwise - the defender would re-align his defense well before the atacker completes his envelopment maneuver. Also, envelopment costs time which is sometimes very precious. There is no universal war winning strategy, each situation is different.

Its 1877 the type of warfare was new and soldiers were getting used to this in comparison to the line battles of the early 19th. I seem to remember the last battle with troops of the line took place in the 1860s if Im not mistaken.

@@VersusARCH / I think we got it, thanks.

@CipiRipi00 / Good point. For various reasons I guess there was no way to just cut them off and wait em out.

You can't read the title of the video and the description ??

is a romanian movie called Pentru Patrie 1977 which translates to for the fatherland or for the country here is a link with English subtitles kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrt9n9x6yuC1l2w.html

the movie name: pentru patrie is a war movie of the 1877-1878 Romanian independence from the ottoman empire while at the same time the 1877-1878 was the Russo-ottoman war and Romania gave the right to the Russians to pass trough their country to attack ottoman empire while that happen the Romanian king i forgot his name but decide to join in the war and they won the war which made Romania independence and a win for the Russians

Yani kısaca sikmeliydik .atalarımız büyük yanlış yapmış.

As a British, I agree. But my kind didn’t impose religion upon the colonies. Selam from a muslim brother.

Where time traveling! :D :D

This movie was filmed in the communist times so I’m guessing they had a low budget

Jehova's Thiccness Ottoman Empire- Tsardom of Russia War(1877-1878)

They got broke

I would also say that they most likely had a lot of Mosin Nagant and other old rifles in the army stock, so they may have been used to represent the Krnka and other single shot rifles Romania had at the time (during the war, the main rifles used were the Krnka, Dreyse and Peabody M1867). Keep in mind this was done during the communist regime, when if needed, you could just call the army for hundreds of extras. But in other battle scenes of the movie, the Ottomans at least have rifles that are closer to their real counterpart at the time, the Martini-Henry. Another interesting detail in the movie is the artillery used. Some of the pieces lokk like converted 75mm Puteaux M1897 field guns.

They had single shot bolt-action, like the, then out-dated, Prussian neetle gun

Dr. Harmonica, calm down

@@Bruhganu-hj9qs They had also British Martini Henry single shot rifles, although not sure in what numbers compared to Wimchesters.

@@Bruhganu-hj9qs but the problem with the Winchester was that it used to overheat very quickly thus one of the reasons for the ottomans to lose the war

@@paki_baloch i doubt the ottoman empire was nicknamed europe's dying man because of some rifles. It was a combination of factors that led to its downfall.

American soldiers may have been armed with muskets in the late 19th century. But the Turkish army was armed with modern British rifles, and many of the officers in the Turkish army were British, including several generals. The Turkish army also received several hundred Krupp cannons. The British navy also acted in the service of the Turks and against the Christian population in the Balkans. In general, Britain and the countries of Western Europe have provided enormous military and material assistance to Turkey in this war, pursuing their own interests and not caring about the Christian population in this part of Europe, subjected to genocide, massacres, rapes - just because they are not Muslims.

Both sides used breech loading rifles by this point, Romanians used the Krnka along with the Dreyse of which they had like 31k (11k dreyse carbines, 20k dreyse rifles)

romanian soldiers Have mosin nagant m1891

Причём трёхлинейки.В 1877-м:)

@@aleksevdokimov9780 А где им знайти винтари 19 века. На несколько сотен массовки. Компутеров тогда не було.

😂😂😂 eroilor romani

Romania is a bitch She opens her leg to the strong The Turks are strong so that we will be followed by them No Austro-Hungarian Empire, let's follow them No, we are Nazis lol No, it's Russia and the Soviet Union, we're Soviets Russia has fallen, let us join the European Union 🤣🤣🤣

Yada romanyali cingeneler😂

@@ozgurpehlivan4816 voi sinteti rasa de tigani .voi turcii nu a ti avut tara si neam .Voi a ti ucis si a ti furat pamanturile tracilor .Noi romanii ne am nascu si traim in Europa de mii de ani .Primul popor din Europa nascut este Romania ce se numea Getia Pelasgea

turk =nomand .Nomand = cingeneler 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yes he Have mosin

They use Mosins for the movie, because they look a bit like Berdan 2 rifles, and it‘s impossible to find so many Berdans, there are few of them in the museums.

bence çok büyük aptallık

bosver onlari bicmişiz sen ona bak salak salak saldirirlarsa olacağı bu

Yh it's strange. No one wants to play anymore because of nukes

@@yoyo-lf3ld Except maybe Putin who is seeming ready to break that rule.

@Helion Prime if we didn't have nukes i don't think ww2 would have ended lol

@@basilmcdonnell9807 Not Putin.It started America British France part of Europe Australia Israel Canada & their Allies.All are liar cheater arms dealer murderer.They are the worst power in this World.Thanks.

Europe lost its balls.

No, musket

But in the movie, they use mosint

In fact, Romanians used single fire Peabody M1868, American rifle. Ottomans used the more advanced Winchester with repeater!

În reality Russia asked help from us. Not otherwise. We weren't interested with this war, so at first we allowed Russia to use our land for their military actions, but when they suffered too much losses they asked help from us, and we actioned. We participated in Pleven(actually we ended that battle by taking the Grivița redoubt, opening a clear path to the besieged city), Rahovo and Vidin, so the russians togheeter with bulgarian volunteers could advance southward without being threatened from western ottoman garrisons and liberated Bulgaria.

Kopek köpeğe yardım eder.

Sa distruga jegurile

So true, but eventually, you end up in front.haHa good luck.

Baru segitu sombong

But later ruled by the atheist communist.

@@AbdulAziz-zv6hh both are evil

F u

Wdym this is probably the most accurate movie about the siege, if you watch the whole thing there are a lot of scenes and moments which showcase the incompetence of Romanian and Russian command, those are just a few scenes from a 3 hour movie

Romania

In real life they used Martini Henri Rifles, but when making the movie only Mosin Nagants were available.

Love and support my brother from Pakistan

yes it was. very dominant at that time

Declining

Fuck off with ottomans empire

@Narcis Don and where the sultan Muhammad II gay

În the battle of Grivița, Rahova and Plevna the Russians didnt give us backup at all. The romanians where the cannon fodder for the first lines.

@@adryannthedefender701 I don't think so . It was Ghazi osman pasha of the ottoman empire who defeated Russians , Romanians 3 times with only 40,000 soldiers of his against the other 200,000 combined forces of russia and allies. He killed almost a 100,000 troops but with their less numbers they eventually lost

@Matthias Corvinus what do you mean by jihadic. Jihad is the exactly same thing as a crusade. Are you orthodox or catholic

If Russia saw you as a brother. It wouldn't have exploited you in the Soviet times.

@@A.Efe.Y Russians mowing hate births, Romanians forever brothers

They died for their freedom,for their culture it was a necessity

First comment stated that the ottomans had purchased 45k winchester rifles and 5k repeaters that were in fact used during this battle.

Vlad the impalers head was paraded through the streets of Istanbul 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@@syedabbas5822 yes, but Vlad had an army 9 times smaller, imagine if Vlad had at least half of the Ottoman army