this toro riding mower was donated to us after the engine locked up while doing fall cleanup, its a Kohler Command engine 18 hp, it failed in a way I have never seen before, can you guess what happened?
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@skonky3 жыл бұрын
i remember a couple of years ago i stumbled across your channel you inspired me to get into small engines this week i got hired at my local small engine shop thank you mustie
@michaelhartzell97583 жыл бұрын
Good luck. Learn that things can be fixed, but disposable engines are always a possibility.
@vinces89743 жыл бұрын
Good for you!!
@kevinritchie92273 жыл бұрын
Congrats to you. Ive also learned a lot from Mustie and from other similar channels.
@beakittelscherz54193 жыл бұрын
Awesome man! Done Good !
@DanEBoyd3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Enjoy!
@glossamano18993 жыл бұрын
My favourite time of Sunday evening, in bed, hot cup of tea and a Mustie1 video. Good evening all from Adelaide, Australia.
@hqwoody3273 жыл бұрын
Nice HQ, mate! 😉
@glossamano18993 жыл бұрын
@hqwoody327 Thank you! It’s just a 202 auto Kinga but it’s not bad.
@uawsux3 жыл бұрын
I had a wine tasting in Adelaide with a nice good looking tall woman who is very forceful but her husband was always in the pub
@M.TTT.3 жыл бұрын
same, except morning and a freshly brewed hi-caf tea
@Sjackson23693 жыл бұрын
I liked Adelaide, visited in late summer in 19
@grahammcnally47993 жыл бұрын
Banging on that crankshaft in double time was downright musical
@mosconi03593 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mustie for inviting all of us into your little operating theatre. First time I've seen you do "major surgery" on a riding mower engine like this. Even though it eventually turned out to be just an "autopsy" it was still very interesting to see what "killed" this fine specimen.
@mikeshobbiesandrandomstuff3 жыл бұрын
Geez one bolt fails and the crap hit the fan! Thanks for having me over to hang out in the garage bud it's a good time as always.
@tamberp3 жыл бұрын
considering the diameter of that bolt, relative to the hole, I wonder if the design got undermined by "yeah, but if we downside the bolt, it's a few cents cheaper per 1000", and then it snowballs *hard*
@baileyhatfield42733 жыл бұрын
@@tamberp The 40 cent bolt...IS NOW 30 CENTS! LETS GOOO. **sad 20 year old engine noises**
@paulmoir44523 жыл бұрын
This is just stupid. It's a counterweight: why not just use a really big grade nothing bolt instead? Reduced thread, machined nut, I can only imagine what this cost. But FYI airliner engines are held on with two bolts, so if one of those fail then figurative crap really hits the literal fan!
@bige.34742 жыл бұрын
@@paulmoir4452 CFM and v2500 engines have five mount bolts up front and four in the rear. They are all over an inch in diameter. I struggle with a four foot torque wrench to torque them.
@datadavis3 жыл бұрын
I can hear Project Farm going: Wow, thats a lot of damage!😁
@aserta3 жыл бұрын
Yup. This engine went to the great scrap yard in the sky.
@walmartdog11423 жыл бұрын
That damage is "very impressive!"
@dans_Learning_Curve3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what he "Project Farm" was testing?! LoL 😂😆
@darinblomquist4223 жыл бұрын
I think Musti should put it back together with out the balancers, see how long it will run wide open til it seizes
@Stealth69213 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahahahaha lol
@harveytr71063 жыл бұрын
I really like the wrap up synopsis- really helpful for you to run back through what we’ve seen as the final “act” of the video. Thank you.
@tomsommer543 жыл бұрын
Hey, I want to thank you for all the helpful videos. I retired and moved to Northwest Arkansas in the deep Ozarks. It's pretty much just my wife and me. Since I found your channel I have been able to work on my own small engine equipment. I can even help neighbors. It's been very rewarding. Thank you.
@kaprentice3 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here on a sunday morning and watching LSI (lawnmower scene investgations) and I couldn't ask for anything better. The way you look and diagnose what went wrong with that Toro was nothing short of amazing. And I always enjoy watching a master at work. Love your stuff and keep up the good work.
@marcryvon3 жыл бұрын
" LSI (lawnmower scene investgations)" Now that's a good one !!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@melnycmnscanada46083 жыл бұрын
Ditto on LSI. LMAO and no one got killed!
@shadoweagle98802 жыл бұрын
Threw the counter balance, Kohler courage for ya. I work in a mower repair shop and it happens all the time
@mjg2633 жыл бұрын
Loved every minute of it, 100x better than anything on TV!!
@mee14923 жыл бұрын
My neighbor gave me a honda push mower that was locked up. I soaked the cylinder with pb blaster and have been using it for 4 years. Love the videos musty. You have really increased the depths I'm willing to go before I give up on equipment. Thanks 😊
@oddtechman3 жыл бұрын
Your presentations are amazing Mustie ! The humour stands your channel well apart from others out there and we can relate to your findings as though in person. In truth i think we all watch for your trademark phrases lol.. "think it's got spark..." "think it'll run" ... "well that ain't good" ... and then .. there is the laugh! You Sir.. are an entertainer and a joy to watch with your tear down and repairs. Here's to the next video and thank you so much for sharing
@erniebeswick76753 жыл бұрын
No matter how old we get we're all still a little boys that like to take things apart to see how they work
@neilgibbons25323 жыл бұрын
But can we put it back together again ,is the question 🧔
@Koshunae3 жыл бұрын
See, I think after we learn how things work, we begin to regress in a way. We start taking it apart to see how it broke! After we get our giggles out, then we start to fix it.
@gispel70583 жыл бұрын
Too often we see how others failed at solving a problem and yes....made things worse. The Mustie types come along to fix the screw ups and then go after the original problem. Happens in my world every day.
@baileyhatfield42733 жыл бұрын
@@gispel7058 Hard trying to solve a problem with somebody else having their fingers in it. had a chevy cruze (ew) 1.4T car, misfire all over, everything looked ok ish. After we were doing some testing ect, had it running, full on oil, Turbo started just making awful noises. Long story short, they did horrible oil changes, clogged the turbo oil feed, the son put a used turbo on it, not changing the line, breaking the drain line, and then came to us for a missfire. So DIY gone wrong, aswell as poor maintenance.
@gispel70583 жыл бұрын
@@baileyhatfield4273 Its a problem alright. I don't work on cars and engines but I do mechanical work. Glad you were able to look at your problem and back track what the heck went wrong.
@tableturnah3 жыл бұрын
You are a power house, tearing into this thing at turbo speed. Love the energy!
@M.TTT.3 жыл бұрын
its inspiring, I have been getting faster working on my projects now
@capohd283 жыл бұрын
LIkely from years of working flat rate, in a prior life.
@brians.16293 жыл бұрын
Your videos are never long winded...always very informed and n depth...no one else would go into detail like you..ty very much for what you do and how you do it...never change your style or videos..
@swany83933 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love all your videos Mustie. I have learned so much about the functionality of anything mechanical to tool use. My hobby is restoring mowers, weed eaters, and pretty much anything mechanical much like you. I was wondering how/where to send you a thank you package. I’ve had some hard life challenges and your videos have gotten me through them. Please PM me to where I can mail you some thank you items. You’ve inspired me to track down the moped I used to have and start restoring it. Thanks again Mustie you ROCK!
@cassbiz3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your educational videos. Recently bought a 20€ lawnmower and within 30 minutes cleaned the fuel system and carburetor and now runs like a Briggs & Stratton 😀
@bykrmom3 жыл бұрын
Great autopsy on that engine. The synopsis you did to explain the failure was amazing. Thanks for posting this video :)
@glennscearce65203 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for all the information on small engines. Just helped my friend with a Kawasaki 15 HP twin with a bent push rod. Straightened it out, put it back, adjusted the valves and it LIVES...lol...never would have tried that without watching you. Keep em coming to Walkertown NC.
@SW-lu9cu3 жыл бұрын
Classic Mustie ..... "its comin out, it just doesn't know it yet" ! Oh how I love this channel !
@sergeblanchette42013 жыл бұрын
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@edwardbasco54753 жыл бұрын
@@sergeblanchette4201!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@randypenner61182 жыл бұрын
Low oil or oil pump and just because it's full of oil people have tendsey to ad oil after it has burnt lower balancer out
@randypenner61182 жыл бұрын
Or never change oil
@datadavis3 жыл бұрын
What a weird engine! Never seen a fixed counter balance like that? Thanks for getting your hands oily and showing us!
@aserta3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to guess it has something to do with the unbalanced (otherwise) magnet on the flywheel. Overly complicated POS if you ask me. Not only that, but there's cut corners everywhere you look. Thin case, no hardened surfaces against gravity effects (the part that Mustie was showing that got munched in the crank case), there's clearly no oil ramp, and this relies on other means to get lubricated... If i were to bet, i'd bet this engine started life as a vertical engine, then some smartass in the cost cutting department decided to swap it to horizontal, with the required modifications, to which there's no issue, it can be done, but if you do it whilst nursing your thumb with your .... it won't last. And a cursory glance on google for this engine proves my point. This engine platform is riddled with problems, from cracking to spun bearings and other stuff. What a piece of junk.
@joshuaolsen88443 жыл бұрын
@@aserta buddy...this is a vertical lol. The counterbalance is meant to oppose the vibrations created by a single cylinder’s piston oscillating up and down. Now most single cylinders just use a balance shaft including newer Kohler. The piece that was chewed inside was likely an oil baffle to avoid the foaming of the oil around the governor gear.
@helicopterjohns3 жыл бұрын
@@aserta "What a piece of junk" I will second that motion. John
@joshuaolsen88443 жыл бұрын
@@aserta flywheels are also balanced. You’ll find drilled holes along the perimeter to balance and reduce vibrations.
@photodan243 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaolsen8844 Oh jeez, and a bushing for the counterweight is completely inappropriate for the side loading that occurs in that orientation. It will always be pinching on the bottom/piston edge and top/counterweight sides because of gravity pulling it downward.
@jdmccorful3 жыл бұрын
Love the what ifs teardowns. Learned alot about the interaction of components. Thanks for the look.
@ginog44803 жыл бұрын
Man, I really got a lot out of this video. Thank you so much. I really appreciate the time spent on you explanations of the overall mechanics.
@TheWarjunkie6663 жыл бұрын
I have owned a mower with this engine for the past 8 years and have had no issues due to regular maintenance. One day while going over the mower I noticed all the top cover bolts have come slightly loose most notably the ones near the back where the locating thing that that screw screws into and is located in the top case. I think what you said about the bolt failing and working loose is true, but I think the reason said bolt was able to work loose was because of warpage or looseness of the top cover where that silver locating thing sits in the case. Fingers crossed mine keeps going haha.
@ericvaughn11263 жыл бұрын
Good show, Moe. The sinister laugh at the end when putting the crank back in with "Up Next. Will it run?" is cliffhanger material all day long. Hysterical and surely has us wondering how bad it will be and how long it will last!
@steve-ph9yg3 жыл бұрын
I have the popcorn ready for the microwave and time on my hands bring it on destruction here we come. Will he do it oh yes he ran the twin cylinder with one piston and jug let’s start the pool for how log it lasts. Edit: I give the engine 2 minutes 29 seconds before it locks up.
@danf46163 жыл бұрын
Mustie's enthusiasm is admirable. I'd be like "Crap, guess I gotta take this darn thing apart..." Mustie is "Cool! I get to take this apart and find out what's wrong!" 😁
@MrPaige2223 жыл бұрын
Once I found the huge gear thing and the destroyed spring looking thing, I'd have stopped investigating.
@garthwright40643 жыл бұрын
@@garymallard4699 Nope. Accurately diagnosing the problem, like he did, is the real talent. Then a reasonable assessment of whether it's worthwhile to repair, considering costs vs returns must be made. He didn't just "tear it apart", he methodically followed the evidence to find the root of the problem. If you don't like how he does his videos, make your own.
@garthwright40643 жыл бұрын
@@garymallard4699 who cares? Mustie did a great video, guiding us through the discover process of finding the problem. You come along with some punk comment about all he did was tear it down, which is easy. You missed the point of the video and took the opportunity to brag for no reason at all. Go away.
@BuckRodgers33 жыл бұрын
There is a huge emotional difference between "Lets take apart this mower to see what happened." and "My mower died now I have to fix it before I can get back to mowing." The first is a fun exploration the second is compounding work and can quickly get exhausting.
@tomtribur4583 жыл бұрын
There are trolls commenting on almost every video I watch, like the comment of having a happy wife, that guy is watching the wrong videos.
@jmack4283 жыл бұрын
Your trick to spin the allen wrench blew my mind.
@davidhoman38073 жыл бұрын
I saw that also!
@LonglacMax3 жыл бұрын
I saw that and was gonna comment how good he is with a left hand to boot.
@fredmetzel36283 жыл бұрын
Well I was looking for boat hull restore info and I find this vid that has nothing to do with boats. Well I have lawn stuff for parts or repair. So i find myself riveted to this video and here is why. I hate videos that sensationalize, monologue to much or can't hold the camera still or drown out the sound with some crazy too loud background music. Also hate that lots of vids have no point or just don't know anything but brag about themselves.. So this guy does an informative video that completely makes true sense of things right before your eyes and ears. So well informed, so thorough, so comfortable and easy to watch. Answers so many questions and makes you feel like your at your friends shop helping him figure out what happened. So now I am informed, learned plenty and gave mustie1 a thumbs up and subscribed. Mustie 1 should be teaching tech schools. He doesn't brag so I thought I would do that for him as in reality it should be. Give credit where it's due and dont brag. Put it in your resume'. Thank you Mustie 1.
@mustie13 жыл бұрын
thank you sir
@timssmallenginerepair14673 жыл бұрын
Good video. I finally found me a hammer like you have. At the flea market last weekend for $1.00. Been using it last week. Thanks for the videos.
@brianmcilvaine79653 жыл бұрын
Same found mine at a yard sale 2.00
@TASMAN-13 жыл бұрын
Such an inspirational & educational channel, & yet a minority still give a thumbs down. Those people need to go back to bed, have coffee or sit in a bowl of rice or something!!
@marcryvon3 жыл бұрын
Those are hopeless dingbats. They refuse to learn anything worth. I have no pity for that kind of people.
@JerryWalker0013 жыл бұрын
You can pretty much guarantee that they are the sort of useless people that have nothing to offer so just want to whine about something. None of them will have spent any time making videos to try to help or entertain others and they cannot understand the distinction between not liking something and disliking something. Not one of them will have left a comment explaining why they did not like the video so it says more about them than it does the video.
@Mrcrowley19673 жыл бұрын
Those are the people that think lawn mowers are Porsche’s and Mercedes and over think what needs to be done yea he is off the cuff mechanic but he knows how to make things work when they do not . Taryl said it best “it is not the space shuttle it cuts lawns”
@ScottGovey3 жыл бұрын
Those thumbers downers are probably people hoping for a fix on their own and it didn't help them. So much negativity around but mustie1 just blasts it away as always.
@bobcooke63462 жыл бұрын
You’ve got to love wrenching vicariously through Mustie, and maintain clean oil free hands, thank you for allowing us to be there with you whilst you do autopsies on stuff 👍
@keithrayeski31472 жыл бұрын
MAN! This has got to be my absolute favorite channel! Your depth of knowledge is astonishing! Mesmerizing actually! You should teach this stuff! I mean beyond what you do for us here! You didn’t have to go that in depth, but you did! And I’m profoundly grateful for that! And to think, we’ve got someone of your caliber right here in the Granite State! Thank you once again!!! I’m a Mustie junky!! Hey, that’d be a wicked cool t-shirt!! Mustie1Junkie Club!🤣👊🏻
@peteschiavoni3 жыл бұрын
I love the projects that you get into. The way you explain things is great. Thank you for sharing b
@SPW8123 жыл бұрын
I never tire of riding mowers.
@M.TTT.3 жыл бұрын
same or garden tractors and idk why, just good cheap fun to try and get them running.
@tomtheplummer73223 жыл бұрын
🤷♂️😏
@M.TTT.3 жыл бұрын
@@garymallard4699 nice! I got a few at the moment, from 60s-90s, but simplicitys and a snapper LT12, either got em all for free or under $85. Like you said, fun to just revive them, trying to figure out this valve tick on a briggs cast 10hp, need to replace the valves and then might need rings. Fun to learn on. Those Ropers are great tractors from what I've seen
@M.TTT.3 жыл бұрын
@@garymallard4699 nice! That sounds kinda like the attachments I'd like to have, but realistically don't use as much as I wish. The loader would be super handy though and zero turns are quite a bit faster, I guess overall a few mph to 10mph faster and turning. And yeah most cases with things I get free in the garbage is bad fuel/car or safety switch/no spark. Most my garden tractors were rode wet and put away hard though lol
@donjames7753 жыл бұрын
Good job, I'm hooked....I've been taking apart and most of the time putting together all my life.....I still push myself to do all of my own work [I just turned 72]........but the satisfaction of [gettin it fixed] is a great feeling...........I can hear your amusement when you [hear it run].........you've got a great personality thanks a lot for the intertainment.
@artszabo10153 жыл бұрын
Very good Mustie, I've never seen the inside of these newer engines. All of my experience is with the old iron Briggs and Kohlers. Thanks a bunch. Art
@sjsadler80613 жыл бұрын
Good morning Mr Mustie ... Good to see you today.
@rickestabrook49873 жыл бұрын
I'm a dedicated viewer as I learn SOOOO much watching your various challenges, diagnoses, and solutions. Apart from your mechanical understanding of engines (of all types), you include a strong understanding of the physics at play in engines. I'm curious, are you self taught? Hoping you might give us some insight into how you garnered such a deep knowledge of these things. Also, you uniquely speak to us as though we're there in your shop, further immersing your viewers in the process. No wonder you have a half million followers. THANKS!
@neilmerrifield96333 жыл бұрын
Don't know what his back round knowledge is? But what ever it is, he's like a regular kind of guy.
@gen1573 жыл бұрын
Mustie is like that neighborhood dad, always willing to lend a hand to anyone willing to learn. Show your interest and he'll teach you anything you want to try.
@derick2986 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he learned it from his dad. In a video of his parents his dad didn't seem very knowledgeable about engines.
@SalvageWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how the simplest little prick can cause such a BIG problem! The way that governor exploded was CRAZY!
@TheAncientOneYT3 жыл бұрын
Should see how the old Governor of Cali's head exploded in Total Recall
@16vSciroccoboi3 жыл бұрын
@Demonfang Arun nah the bolts just break. It's extremely common. His analysis was probably pretty close to the series of events.
@JetIgniter2k23 жыл бұрын
Dude!! Spoilers!
@Gears.and.Gadgets3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAncientOneYT now that's funny right there.
@bobbyshell25133 жыл бұрын
@Demonfang Arun s
@monkeybarmonkeyman3 жыл бұрын
What surprises me is the engineers would have to have known that bolt was completely wrong for the counter-weights. Yet, here we are. A more unusual reason for engine death we've seen on your channel. Much enjoyment derived. Thanks, Mustie1!
@photodan243 жыл бұрын
I think it's much worse than just the bolt. Think of the bearing side loads from the counterweight being pulled down by gravity. This sucker was never intended to be run horizontally.
@monkeybarmonkeyman3 жыл бұрын
@@photodan24 Very good point!
@BackcountryBeginnings3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the discussion as much as the wrenching. Definitely helps me learn.
@general51043 жыл бұрын
I, personally, like how He talks to us, just as if we were actually there with Him! He's a naturally born teacher! He is patient and takes the time to delve into something, with an inqusitive nature, and is always figuring on repair and riding it around the property a while, to check it out and give us a thrill ride!
@tollietime3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure and an education Mustie!
@acemobile98063 жыл бұрын
Kohler 🤦 used to be a tough motor, only behind Onan & Wisconsin. Now handily surpassed by Predator. Sad times we're in. Another great adventure Darren 🍻 I think your diagnosis is spot-on. I know those things like to eat those plastic cam gears too.
@kanadianken56733 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mustie - another great episode !! 👍. I appreciate you doing these vids - always learn something and have a good laugh as well. Cheers !
@expatron3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Thailand. Thanks for the small engine (including VW) education over the last couple of years.
@MrTarkus0072 жыл бұрын
it's amazing how he could pull things apart & remember how they go back together i see mustie as a teacher in a trade school he's that amazing as a matter of fact i watch his vids over n over again he's so amazing
@kstricl3 жыл бұрын
Back in high school, I made several old Briggs run with many parts missing - the preview did not disappoint me. Can't wait for next vid.
@bryancollingwood53383 жыл бұрын
Hi Mustie, I really enjoy your stuff so thought I would send you this one. 20hp Courage single would lock up at TDC. I thought it was either Battery or starter motor. Replaced both with new. still no go. THEN while fixing the leaky rocker cover gasket I decided to check the valve lash, 17 thou on the exhaust which of course rendered the automatic decompression in operative which made full compression too much for the starter motor. Reset valve lash to 7 thou and all is well. I haven't seen this on your site or any other but I am sure I am not the only one with this prob. Keep them coming bro. I am learning lots.
@strokenumber33 жыл бұрын
...... a couple more 'who's your daddies'......Gotta love Mustie's commentary .
@zw55093 жыл бұрын
Always a fun synopsis. The force of gravity allowed the lower side to drop and get out of alignment every time the motor was stopped and restarted. The upper would remain flush on the bearing surface. Look forward to the rebuild/re-power.
@danaitch38803 жыл бұрын
We have a twin of this Toro. Fingers crossed we don't experience this failure. I had to "re-engineer" the deck and pullies in an attempt to get it to quit eat belts. Nice detailed teardown.
@fireballxl-57483 жыл бұрын
This is the real, reality t.v. Very much enjoyed watching and appreciate the posting. Especially the information you gave during.
@kevin34ct3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting since 5:30 AM for this.
@craigsnook36053 жыл бұрын
Yay. Sunday evening with Mustie to watch. Hi from New Zealand.
@billwhite51882 жыл бұрын
Love each episode of Musti 1 ever since i met him and the karman giaha a couple of years ago. Learned lots from your videos sir. Thank you very much.
@65csx833 жыл бұрын
Good video, start to finish. I've learned avoid YT videos with AMAZING, GENIUS, and YOU WON"T BELIEVE titles. I'm glad I made an exception on this one.
@williamlewis93503 жыл бұрын
It was amusing watching you stand there and repeatedly try to turn the engine over by hand trying to figure out what was the matter. Reminded me of someone who gets an unexpected letter in the mail and spends 10 minutes trying to figure out who sent it or what they want instead of just opening it.
@matersworkshop61233 жыл бұрын
I have an Ariens mower with the same engine and the counter balance came apart. It was at idle and came through the side of the block. I replaced it with a Predator 708
@1988MowerMan3 жыл бұрын
Every engine manufacturer has gone down in quality. They are just not built to last anymore.
@orbitalair21033 жыл бұрын
@@1988MowerMan I was trying to repair oil leaks on my tecumseh 12hp on my riding mower. I pull the repair manual by the id code. Its a "long life" engine. it was made over 30 years ago and still runs. I was amazed to find I could get the entire gasket and o-ring kit for it. Oil leaks fixed, still cutting grass.
@dwaynehall48363 жыл бұрын
This guy is awesome
@bushmaster29362 жыл бұрын
@@orbitalair2103 Nice : )
@keithkilps82503 жыл бұрын
Mustie your explanations and mechanical skills are inspiring Keep em coming
@mkilptrick3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining how the oil flows through the crankshaft. Learned something new today.
@brianandrews70993 жыл бұрын
As Taryl said, they call it a Kohler Courage because you need courage to work on one! A Command would have never behaved this way!
@ColinWatters3 жыл бұрын
Makes me glad my Toro has a B&S motor. Only issue I've had is with the decompressor. If the valve clearances are a bit too big the decompressor doesn't work and the starter struggles to turn the engine over. I bet many people have replaced batteries or starters only to find that all it needs is the valves adjusting.
@shannonwittman9503 жыл бұрын
Another great video from Mustie1!! Love all the extended and "long-winded" videos! Judging from what we've seen in this teardown and from what folks have said in the comments, even if a good replacement engine was found it would likely break again. The engine design is over-engineered to the point of scoring high on the lemon-list. Probably better to find some other basic engine with a good track record. A few less horsepower would not matter a lot, this machine won't be competing for any off-road records. Uhhh ... right, Mustie?
@retro4402 жыл бұрын
Might be time for a Harbor Freght Predator!!
@danfox23452 жыл бұрын
Thankyou ,I have always been curious how they worked but never had a patient teacher. I love your csi style.
@rickleger35283 жыл бұрын
i have that engine on my Craftsman LT2000 nice to see how in works on the inside Great job enjoy all your videos
@kcraig513 жыл бұрын
Kohler really made a turd when they came out with that engine! The Courage twin was pretty good, but I shortblocked a ton of the singles under warranty because the cam boss in the bottom would crack and lose all the oil while running and BAM! thrown rod! Compression release was problematic too. 99% JUNK!
@philliphall5198Ай бұрын
I agree on junk
@howiedavis23163 жыл бұрын
I believe I saw what we called in the Air Force "military engineering" which basically translates to " if it don't fit, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway " lol. I love watching these break down, I hope you repair it.
@baileyhatfield42733 жыл бұрын
That's what it was in some parts of automotive too O_O if it didn't wanna come out easy, torch and BFH. Some stupid things like sway bar links, things are getting replaced anyways, the nut won't come off decent? Torch it. Gives a rookie like me some uh...experience with the torch.
@robertbiggs49343 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting...always learn something from your videos! Thanks for the "teardown" to see what probably led to the failure.
@josephsimanski31923 жыл бұрын
42:42 Southern Auto Auction note pad on the work bench! I was a wholesale buyer for 26 years, met my wife there in '92 she was a title clerk. I attended SAA up until 2017 just about every Wednesday.
@kimkeam20943 жыл бұрын
When I recently purchased a secondhand ride-on, the first thing I noticed was a lot of Koehler motors that had died on the ones advertised. All had counterweight issues that had let go and in most cases cracked the crankcase. I think you were lucky that it stopped without writing off the engine. Ended up with a Briggs and Stratton engine and runs like a dream.
@davelohmann91972 жыл бұрын
Koehler's are JUNK motors, poor engineering. Can't beat a Briggs. Worse case scenario in the Briggs 14-17 HP single-lungers is a Head Gasket. (also poor design, but a fairly easy repair) I've had 2 riders given to me with Blown H/gasket motors & repaired them & STILL have them MANY years later.
@andybub452 жыл бұрын
@@davelohmann9197 you can beat a Briggs, it’s called Kawasaki
@andybub452 жыл бұрын
Kohler Courage engines are junk. Old Command single cylinder engines were virtually bulletproof. The newer 7000 series Kohler is better than Briggs and Stratton but not Kawasaki reliable.
@the1spyderryder3 жыл бұрын
Mustie1 thanks for all the great videos! I am learning mechanics from watching your videos. Could you go through how the primer bulb fuel systems work on weed eaters or small engines. I bought a replacement but cant seem to get it replumbed properly. Thanks for the friendly humor too makes me feel like i am a welcome guest, or friend in your garage. Youre an awesome teacher!
@miker83683 жыл бұрын
That Kohler Command took a licking, but didn't keep ticking! Great video, as always...extremely knowledgeable!
@16vSciroccoboi3 жыл бұрын
It's not a command. If it was, it wouldn't have failed.
@jgarner11043 жыл бұрын
"Eh, yeah, that can't be good." Some of the best words to ever be spoken.
@Undermeman3 жыл бұрын
I was beginning to think there might not be a video this morning...whew.
@connorssmallengines66633 жыл бұрын
He uploaded this at 7:00 AM his time
@1crazypj2 жыл бұрын
In my limited experience of Kohler Command engines I think your pretty close to the sequence of events. The engineering involved to make sure a lower bearing fails is pretty impressive as it seems very common for balancer or lower main bearing to seize. (although in this case it was the long bolt holding balancer together) I'm pretty sure there would have been an increase in vibration before failure. The starter gear looks new, seems that the starter motor fails very shortly before bearing failure.
@jjryansea3 жыл бұрын
Always learn something from you Mustie. Thanks again.
@jackjacke46543 жыл бұрын
It's mouse revenge! One got pissed and got in there with a small jack hammer and had at it! : )
@ohioyodertoter68273 жыл бұрын
this channel is relaxing versus the chaos of hearing todays news :-O
@tarstarkusz3 жыл бұрын
What happened?
@langer241063 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about?
@Gadgetman19893 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth, the news is always some sort of calamity
@shannonwittman9503 жыл бұрын
ohio yoder toter ... Oh yes! Today's TV and print "news" is so messed up with "reporting their self-righteous opinions" instead, its not worth our consideration.
@davidvickers84253 жыл бұрын
As long as its not another attack on the whitehouse by a bunch of well below average IQ traitors, it will be good, happy mowing.
@waynebrundidge2062 жыл бұрын
Have been watching the channel for a time. Love to watch you and listen as you work. I have added to my bag of tricks as you might say. My first time to comment. Thanks for the video.
@critter37453 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the engine autopsy. This is one of my favorite videos of yours.
@fh134393 жыл бұрын
That's so Mustie: The whole engine is crap, several parts destroyed... Coming up next: WILL IT RUN? 😂
@steveearwig3 жыл бұрын
It probably would but without the balance weights it'd probably shake itself to bits. Yeah, I'd watch that...
@trevorjameson32133 жыл бұрын
Just remember that the bottom of the case where the crank rides is severely scored/chewed up. The case is ruined, there is no fixing that. Even if that case damage were filed down and cleaned up, the tolerances would be way off. I'm sure he could get it running again, but it wouldn't run for very long.
@fh134393 жыл бұрын
@@trevorjameson3213 It is not supposed to last forever. The only question is if it runs at all.
@charlesangell_bulmtl3 жыл бұрын
@@fh13439 That is a TRULY short sighted business model....
@charlesangell_bulmtl3 жыл бұрын
@@trevorjameson3213 BULLSHIT where's the Machinist friend...LOL
@Mizman763 жыл бұрын
Oh if Kohler only would reproduce the old Command series of engines. I had to make the move to Kawasaki once the Courage line made its debut. Love my Kawi's as long as you keep them oiled and the valves adjusted.
@christopherl21433 жыл бұрын
I Think That's What I'm going To go With On My Husqvarna MZT-61. It has A 30 HP Briggs Motor and The Sump Will just not Seal. Briggs Came Out With A Updated Sump but I kept My Hours Down. Only 150 Hour's. Briggs And Stratton Went Bankrupt Because of Things like This. And Kohler Isn't Much better.
@Niterider733 жыл бұрын
It looks like a Kohler courage to me. I've never been inside one of them nor have I worked on one, but I always remember they said that they are twin cam engines. Obviously I'm pretty sure they're not OHC or DOHC, but seeing both of those cam gears tells me this is probably a Kohler courage, that being said I have not heard one good thing about them. If anything they probably really hurt kohler's reputation. Can't wait to see what's coming up next. If anything it would be nice to see a video of this being repowered. Awesome video Darren!
@JPGuay3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis Mr. Sherlock ! I learned a lot again. Thanks !
@pcuser803 жыл бұрын
Coffee and snack time + a Mustie1 video = a great Sunday : Happy Sunday all
@davidfoulk30783 жыл бұрын
IKR, if only he would do a daily video....now that would be cool!
@shannonwittman9503 жыл бұрын
@@davidfoulk3078 ... yeah, every day at that certain time, KZfaq's circuits nearly overload from the strain!! Wonder why ...?
@davidhollis11173 жыл бұрын
Mustie’s small engine true crime is a great watch.
@dinodasbunce62243 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, it will be a great help in a Kohler that displayed symptoms like this motor did.
@tomtribur4583 жыл бұрын
Great video, funny thing, I was helping father-in-law over the weekend with his mower, 23 yr old craftsman with 20 hp Kohler v-twin motor. It just abruptly quit on him. Replaced blown fuse (probably from him trying to restart it). It’s full of oil. Crank only moves 1/8th inch or so, starter is good, pulleys underneath aren’t seized. We haven’t taken head off yet, but after watching your video I’m suspecting something similar. There is something jamming the crank because both pistons move up & down equally the same as I can only rock the fly wheel back & forth that little bit.
@gispel70583 жыл бұрын
"Magnetic Mush" was a lesser known heavy metal band. From the eighties!
@peterg.82453 жыл бұрын
I want to say that in my fakest Russian accent like your referring to Bullwinkle.
@mick23833 жыл бұрын
Good morning Mustie1 and alll the Mustielits from Maryland, USA.
@felinespirits3 жыл бұрын
Another Marylander sort of happy for the rainy Sunday morning. I can watch Mustie1 with no guilt about not being outside cutting my lawn. :)
@joshmanis98603 жыл бұрын
At another Marylander
@restaurantandcommercialkit61133 жыл бұрын
You really help me understand how the motors work
@theodoredugranrut82013 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mustie1, Good to hang out with you for a while. Central California Watching
@dandel3513 жыл бұрын
What a weird internal set up on that engine. You'd think standard counter weights would be fine but there you go, a whole motor wrecked after that one bolt snapped. If that bolt hadn't broken the next wear item would be that locator cam/slider thing. This is why Briggs & Stratton engines are as simple as they are.
@Bodhranarama3 жыл бұрын
Jeez I was just singing the praises of the old 70s/early 80s Kohlers on Diesel Creek the other day. This is what they have become, nylon gears.
@MrMattDat2 жыл бұрын
Mustie, love the diagnostic work you do!
@gizwiz55023 жыл бұрын
Awesome... it's these kind of tear-downs I really enjoy. Adding knowledge to why things fail. I'm sure at least 50% of it is bad initial design that simply will not last.
@TheBaconKing223 жыл бұрын
I’m a small engine mechanic and Kohler courage is our very notorious for blowing due to the counterbalance or they develop a leak and you just don’t know and then they end up throwing a rod or throw in the balancer
@andrewwitham54053 жыл бұрын
correct, seen that failure before. poor design and execution.
@compzac3 жыл бұрын
thats great to hear, ive got a craftsman riding mower with the 21 HP vTwin kohler courage engine, its 15 years old at this point, and well who knows it runs like a champ and i do keep maintenance on it, and its been a (pun inserted here -courageous) engine but from the sounds of it the courage engines tend to go boom boom often.
@bigtomato60573 жыл бұрын
@@compzac Mine had the bottom crank seal fail.
@compzac3 жыл бұрын
@@bigtomato6057 The only failures mine has had was a carburetor needle failure causing engine flooding, coil failure and charging system fault, which it still has since it only affects starting and the engine still runs just fine, none of my seals have gone and as far as i can tell the internal components are just fine. Even if my engine dies tomorrow though, its lasted 15 years so honestly i would say its had a fine run.
@MrCarGuy3 жыл бұрын
These things are still very reliable with a few easy precautions. Checking the oil before starting ensures oil starvation issues are prevented and adding loctite to those crankcase bolts prevents them from backing out
@JamesLatimer3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why I love these videos, but I do.
@marcemarc65162 жыл бұрын
On my tractor was running hot from years of no maintenance. Find packed with dirt and grease and black as night oil from never being changed, just added to, was super hard to get started. Piston wasn’t getting lubrication and carbon pieces were causing it to rub and even get stuck at times in the case. Cleaned it all out and reassembled. Runs like a champ now. Didn’t need any parts or valve adjustments
@patlilburn52513 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this, very educational and really like the “detective” thing. Nice work.