My $1,100 Mystery Auction Firebird Was MISDIAGNOSED! Got It Running & DRIVING For $35 In Parts!

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My $1,100 Mystery Auction Firebird Was MISDIAGNOSED! Got It Running & DRIVING For $35 In Parts!

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The first video on the Pontiac Banshee Concept Replica!
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My mystery auction Firebird which I've officially named the Banshee sounded pretty bad in the last video. I was able to free up the piston rings in the crate 350 engine and get it started but it sounded like it had low oil pressure. In this video, we continued working on the engine and find that it was likely misdiagnosed as having a bad engine, donated and then sold at the auction. I only paid $1,100 for this car and I was able to get it running well and driving for about $35 in parts! We take apart some of the engine, use a boroscope to investigate the cylinders and camshaft, we work on the distributor, take a look at the carburetor and overall just have a good old time working on the car in the garage. Oh and I find some really hacked up work that includes welding and the transmission. Of course, there are sound clips and a fun test drive. Enjoy and subscribe!
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@LegitStreetCars 4 жыл бұрын

What's the next car you want to buy? I want a V12 AMG.

@Dave16bit 4 жыл бұрын

I concur - an 80s or 90s AMG

@VegasShuffle 4 жыл бұрын

Something with a M120 please!!!

@bassel.m2988 4 жыл бұрын

A S-class with a v12 😍😍😍😍

@fndoc68967 4 жыл бұрын

The famous 1986 300 E 5.6 AMG.... A.K.A The Hammer.. if you could ever get your hands on one

@fndoc68967 4 жыл бұрын

V12 Mercedes are cool and all but very finicky and hard to work on if I'm not mistaken oh and very expensive to get parts for lol

@Korruptionen 4 жыл бұрын

The painted red coolant overflow tank is killing me.

@1XSTEALTHTWINTURBOX1 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't know why but it bothers me so much too. Lol It makes me feel like a five-year-old wanted it painted.

@montneymon-ta-knee6810 4 жыл бұрын

yea it should have be painted blue like the finder wells lol

@jasonwheeler8996 4 жыл бұрын

It looks like a spare gas can lol

@jdog5534 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can't stop looking at it I've never seen a red overflow tank.

@kennethwalker4551 4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonwheeler8996 Yeah that was my first thought that he was using a gas can to bypass the old gas in the tank.

@MeesterSteefy 4 жыл бұрын

Between Tavarish and the Pimp my Ride van, and these videos, I'm watching more KZfaq than TV lately

@jochenheiden 4 жыл бұрын

Brent Heritier I’ve been in that boat for a couple years now.

@THEREAL_GZUS 4 жыл бұрын

Brent Heritier what’s tv ?

@davidpistek6241 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I watched the same ones

@curtthacker43 4 жыл бұрын

Get on to vise grip garage,and junkyard digs and thunderhead 289 real cool channels

@vincentfalcone2354 4 жыл бұрын

LOL . i am addicted to cleetus mcfarland too

@TheHuell 4 жыл бұрын

It’s like he’s a great teacher and his Passion to get to the bottom of a problem is a joy to watch

@DanGoodShotHD 4 жыл бұрын

Now this is more my speed. No Lambos and Ferraris with a bunch of over technical jargon mumbo jumbo. Just some good old naturally aspirated American muscle. Subscribed.

@frankrosemeck9898 4 жыл бұрын

I just stumbled across your channel (on this car) after watching a bunch of other KZfaq "builders" and so far I'm loving it. You have a much better on-camera presence and speak eloquently, you seem to have a vast knowledge on the tech, but aren't afraid to ask for your viewers when you're not sure. Great editing and solid production value. Just a pleasant watching experience in general. As far as the next build? Do something fun and silly like LS swap a Subaru Brat. Find a solid 70's or 80's sedan and fuel inject it, lift it and make a "rally" car. Just keep having fun and making great content!

@LegitStreetCars 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That means a lot. An LS Brat would be amazing!@

@humbertocastaneda1443 4 жыл бұрын

Alex worked as master technical mechanic at Mercedes-Benz dealership for several years

@DeusVolo 4 жыл бұрын

@Frank AMEN to that.

@MikeKayK 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I usually can't stand watching these kinds of KZfaq videos (they typically bore the crap out of me) and yet I really enjoy watching Alex! I feel like I'm hanging out with an old buddy!

@rolandosanchez3664 4 жыл бұрын

Frank Rosemeck I say the same thing he does know about fixing cars but isn’t ashamed to ask for help and I can tell this guy is going to go places in life. 💯👍🏼

@daviskaufman3168 4 жыл бұрын

He goes “wow after cooling it down a little bit, it started tough!” Welcome to the carbureted life!!!!!!!

@timothym5678 4 жыл бұрын

Improper choke. Did all adaptations with advance off, now he needs to tune for cold start

@gregbenwell6173 4 жыл бұрын

I personally have never had a carb "start hard while cold"!! Say what you want about carbs, if you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, and you set up the choke correctly, it should start in a pump or two of the gas pedal and start just as fast in cold conditions!! BUT AGAIN you have to make adjustments to the carb and set both the idle adjustments and the choke adjustments properly!! Get it right, and a carb will start in cold climate as fast as anything else!!!

@daviskaufman3168 4 жыл бұрын

Greg Benwell exactly, but not all carbs have electric jokes

@daviskaufman3168 4 жыл бұрын

Greg Benwell and some just get tired... idk but some people don’t even hook up there chokes

@joshuaadler4259 4 жыл бұрын

@@gregbenwell6173 ive found that older or carbs running on dirty fuel tend to start harder so that may also play a role in how it started

@russianrick8403 4 жыл бұрын

I don't have much experience with automobile carbs, but I have been blown away by how much mileage you can get on atv carbs just be cleaning them. I'm at high elevation and most of my carbs don't auto-adjust for altitude, so if I'm taking a machine up in the mountains, I have to stop every 30 minutes or so to open up the air bypass a little. If it had gas sitting in there for a year or so, then some of the moving parts to adjust the mixture are likely sticking and not letting enough air in. I love carbs for that, because they are mechanical computers. As long as all the pieces are there, they are very reliable. Modern computer controlled injection systems, while also fairly simple, are not as fun as I have had to replace control chips or whole ECU's, and those get expensive, especially if the car is less common.

@straker454 4 жыл бұрын

I grew up working with my father on carburated cars so seeing someone surprised by old engine characteristics is rather amusing.

@mexital1159 4 жыл бұрын

Same. Seeing the kids tune new cars makes me think they are geniuses. Then you put them on an an old car and ...

@jeremysearcy8875 4 жыл бұрын

I grew around the old carb cars can work on then but the fuel injected cars from about 90 to 2008 are easier for me.

@roachjuice5146 4 жыл бұрын

Those edlebrock carburetors are super easy to tune. The top of the carb comes off. Also that choke is probably sticking. That electric choke on the side is adjustable.

@MrFosterj 4 жыл бұрын

on the edlebrock carbs are junk. You have to buy a special vacume guage from Edlebrock to tune them properly. If you look on the internet there a dime a dozen. better off going to a Holley carb

@timothym5678 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrFosterj what? I have had a lot of cars with edelbrock and I would never put on a holley.... Unless it was a ford. Holly is a ford thing and they put whatever on it 😋

@MrFosterj 4 жыл бұрын

@@timothym5678 Tim I have been racing over 35 years. I'm a certified mechanic. There nothing but a aftermarket quadrojet. There not bad when new but fail after a few years. I've work on so many of them its not funny. They were the go to carb when the first came out but almost everyone that I know who had one went back to Holley

@MrFosterj 4 жыл бұрын

I'm not trying to be offensive so please don't take it that way. I have many Edlebrock parts on my drag drug so I am a fan of them

@MSW-uf5zu 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrFosterj no the edelbrocks are a direct copy of the cater afb.

@jrsugalski5983 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on getting it running! One of the hardest things to do is diagnosis and undo someone else's mistakes. Lots of folks would have overlooked the firing order. Sounds like the last shop either couldn't figure that out or messed it up themselves.

@DiscoFang 4 жыл бұрын

Like with many things it is VERY hard to ignore numbers that are written on. Your brain just accepts them.

@curtthacker43 4 жыл бұрын

whatever shop that was sitting at if they didn't know the firing order for a small block Chevy I think they need just close up their doors and find a new profession

@GLDENGLOVES 4 жыл бұрын

Curt Thacker yes I agree..the reason i dont take my cars to shops to be worked on..they are to quick to diagnose

@BV-nq7wd 4 жыл бұрын

I recently retired as a Master tech from a dealership. The average person replacing us Master tech's now has never worked on a car before. For a lot of these guys they're only previous work experience was picking fruit in a farmer's field. These kids screw up so much stuff, but they've had the master techs available to bail them out and supply them with tools. The dealership I left from only has one senior tech left. Add to the fact that they don't want to pay the tech"s a decent wage anymore, you can see the disaster that is looming in the repair industry.

@kennygo8300 4 жыл бұрын

@@BV-nq7wd Not to mention you can get paid a LOT better as a diesel tech, especially in oil field areas.

@trevagraham1605 4 жыл бұрын

Curt Thacker Facts!!!! I mean the SBC has got to be the most popular motor of all time in the U.S.

@Eremon1 4 жыл бұрын

Too many shops just fire off the parts canon and call it a day. Proper diagnosis can save a lot of headaches.

@wingedhorsegarage473 3 жыл бұрын

Loving that 80’s style, especially the time and effort it took to make this concept car a reality !

@LegitStreetCars 3 жыл бұрын

The current owner is fixing all the body work and painting it again!

@gagestelly9634 4 жыл бұрын

There’s a idle speed screw that u need to adjust to 600 rpm

@tomlindo2863 4 жыл бұрын

Gage Stelly he should get the fuel ratio fixed first. I bet it will idle up when it leans to the correct ratio.

@Olds_Gold 4 жыл бұрын

750 works better 😁

@Olds_Gold 4 жыл бұрын

@@tomlindo2863 its a carb. You need a vacuum gauge and a screwdriver to adjust that to the highest manifold vacuum then set your idle at 750

@tomlindo2863 4 жыл бұрын

@@Olds_Gold agree, but if you set idle then mixture then your idle will be to high so you turn it back down. If the mixture issue is the choke stuck closed, he messed with a fine idle then fixes choke then idle to high so he turns it back down. As long as it is running I would just start with the mixture issue first whatever the cause is, unless it won't idle at all then I might turn it up. It's all a little moot and I'm fussing about minutes of wasted time, but just a suggestion to check the choke or mixture issue before playing with idle which might actually be fine otherwise.

@timothym5678 4 жыл бұрын

@@tomlindo2863 take choke out of the equation and warm up the car first...

@serpentza 4 жыл бұрын

Can I be the odd man out here and say that the car is probably one of the most hideous looking cars I've ever seen? I love 3rd gen firebirds but that car gives me nightmares

@bdd1469 4 жыл бұрын

Gota agree. I've had around a dozen 3rd gens but this one would be parted out and crushed if it was mine...

@jeffreymccarty1388 4 жыл бұрын

Come on... it looks like kinda an f body

@pier11francesco 4 жыл бұрын

What are you doing here wow I Just watched your video about doctors killers in china lol

@MyDailyUpload 4 жыл бұрын

Winston jumps in! Cool. The car isn’t beautiful but it was well done for using a 3rd generation to start with. A Banshee made out of a 4th generation would’ve looked closer to the concept IMHO.

@EMUISTHEONE 4 жыл бұрын

This is the ugliest "firebird" ever or WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT just take the motor out and put it in a real firebird or a Camaro or a truck and scrap that backyard fiberglass job the seatbelts scraps to open the door says it all, its garbage

@stlstinger5191 4 жыл бұрын

I have to say, I had a blast watching you go through the carbureted / HEI learning curve. One of the things that the HEI distributor needed on mine was replacing the original 1986 vacuum advance and fly weights, which were actually rusted and not moving. All of the things about your timing questions are spot on. They ARE touchy when trying to adjust the carb, the choke, get the proper timing setting and advance curve set up (it takes at least three hands to do all of that while maintaining the correct idle...), and I found it interesting that you didn't get oil spritzing across the garage when you had the rocker cover off without the handy-dandy oil deflector clips that you stick on each rocker ... so the hot oil doesn't shoot you in the eye..... LOL! Anyway, fun videos, and aside from not checking the tire pressures and whatnot because of youthful over-enthusiasm, great job of Sherlock Holmes deduction reasoning in solving the distributor issue, and, as a word of advice, after you get the old gas out, stick a can or two of some REAL octane booster in there (not the cheap crap that only raises it 1/10th of an octane point...), and that'll be a pleasant surprise too! Trust me!

@phillipbartlett1819 4 жыл бұрын

I love that car. I remember when the concept car came out everyone who was cool wanted one. A couple of buddies had 83-88 Firebirds. So cool that you found a close copy of it and put it back on the road.

@five0pd310 4 жыл бұрын

I'm loving these Banshee videos. I can't wait until the next one comes out. Thank you.

@martyg3757 4 жыл бұрын

When I was 15 (many years ago) first thing I learned about motors was how to rebuild a carb. I just followed the parts diag included in the rebuild parts kit. Alex, I think you should try it! I'll bet if you are lucky, there's a Skillshare tutorial or KZfaq video about it. Would make a great learning experience for you and lots of guys that just replace their whole carb. If you do, just watch out for the little "ball bearings" that are used as stoppers. Lose them and you've got lots of grief.

@niks983 4 жыл бұрын

That oil filter being that tight really grinds my gears

@waltermiller249 4 жыл бұрын

Most positive mechanic I've ever seen

@Robsav-yx6vi 4 жыл бұрын

Walter Miller : so true Walter such a nice guy too ..

@smiley165 4 жыл бұрын

Walter Miller I would’ve done beat the shit outa my car and gave up

@taunuslunatic404 4 жыл бұрын

He's not just a mechanic but a true car guy.

@327JohnnySS 4 жыл бұрын

Walter Miller, you have to be working with car's or anything mechanical. If it had tits or wheels it's going to give you prombles. Lol

@Rick-O-Shay60 4 жыл бұрын

LOL oh, I get it. Sarcasm.

@everythingexe 4 жыл бұрын

Man you started that drive and I was like wow that looks just like my neighborhood And then I was like wait That’s my neighborhood

@johnpisciotto7115 4 жыл бұрын

He goes south on Harlem Avenue and makes a right hand turn onto Devon

@dallasdeschatres3532 4 жыл бұрын

Alex always films at Caldwell Woods. I recognize it because I learned to ride a road bike on the North Branch Trail.

@dodgeguyz 4 жыл бұрын

I know the area well. Used to cruise Harlem back in the day!

@houstonOLED 4 жыл бұрын

Superdawg's ftw

@ianmangham4570 4 жыл бұрын

COOL

@newmexicojoe5443 4 жыл бұрын

I did mention in your first video, that cars can get tampered with at auctions (spark plug wires moved around). I have a bunch of experience with auctions all over northern Ill. So, you put the distributor back in and set it very close to No. 1, but then went on to other things. I never seen you set the timing correctly with a timing light. You could still be enough off, to cause a hard start. If you set it where it needs to be, you'll get a better start and may not even need to mess with the carb. So, DO THAT FIRST, or you may not get a good carb adjustment.

@garrettchapman8170 4 жыл бұрын

3 things.. 1 Check your choke.. It's most likely stuck causing rich mix.. 2 your floats are also probably stuck, dumping raw fuel into the jets..3 check your primary jet, and see if its dirty.. You will also need to syncronise the primary and secondary jets.. You do this.. Car will be a monster in no time.. Love the channel.. 😉

@FishinPhreak 4 жыл бұрын

LSC: "Awe, man...look at all this Chicago traffic." Also LSC: "Look, no hands!"

@LegitStreetCars 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a professional on a closed course

@FishinPhreak 4 жыл бұрын

@@LegitStreetCars The world is our Autobahn, my dude.

@StraightLineCycles 4 жыл бұрын

That green in the valve cover looks like coolant

@cjhill726 4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. I'm suprised there aren't more people noticing that.

@zacharytracy3797 4 жыл бұрын

I'm also concerned about that. Did he even noticen

@CarManiac125 4 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing some old kendall oil years ago and it takes on that green color for some reason. Just a thought

@RadDadisRad 4 жыл бұрын

I thought so too, but after a little thinking I’d the distributor was off it would compress fuel passed the rings and fuel would be mixed with oil. Mixed oil will have that sheen as well.

@wingman12r 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like coolant, but no surface rust or baby poop. Diesel oils like rotella can also have that look and are popular in performance applications.

@GOOSEAF 4 жыл бұрын

It's been a long time since I've seen anybody get so excited about something as simple as breaks and turn signals etc. working. It's refreshing, I had forgotten how much fun small things like that could be.

@csb772 4 жыл бұрын

Another mans misdiagnoses is another mans treasure. My luck in this category. Nice Honda CBR 600cc. Man said he installed new plugs and wires after riding it one time the engine started knocking. He sold it to me for $300. I got it home and found he didn't tighten the plugs snug because they came loose. The engine was running but missing so bad the engine made a horrible knock. I tightened the plugs and the knock was gone. $5000 I ended up selling it for a year later after I was done with it. 3 atvs I have now the three different owners said they ran but the wiring is messed up. Paid less than $600 for all three. I rewired them and now I have $6000 in ATVs. Riding lawnmower. Paid $125 its worth $1500. The engine needed a new valve cover gasket, plug, fuel filter and a oil filter. Previous owner couldn't get it to run and was to lazy. Plug was shot

@charlesc.6767 4 жыл бұрын

Im sure someone else commented , DO NOT TORQUE the rockers as you mentioned , youll bend valves break pistons, They are adjustable for valve clearance.

@kenseagle4169 4 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe that started with the timing as messed up as it was.

@danielhead6972 4 жыл бұрын

I don't believe timing was off tbh I think someone just numbered there plugs as they removed them vs putting firing order on the cap. Looking at the way the wires were running they were going to correct side of engine from what I could tell but I couldn't see if they were going to correct plugs I assume they were.

@kenseagle4169 4 жыл бұрын

I could maybe see two being switched. But no more than that.

@kennethgumm6870 4 жыл бұрын

You can be 180° out and it'll start and run. All be it, it'll run like absolute garbage, but it'll still run.

@TheMattc999 4 жыл бұрын

Ken Seagle right?!?

@22099dscott 4 жыл бұрын

@@kennethgumm6870 Timing 180 degrees off will never start. At 180 off you are trying to ignite the fuel with the exhaust valve closing, and the intake valve opening. The piston is changing direction, and will start pulling in the fuel mixture well after the spark has come and gone. It will however produce some exhaust backfires that can destroy catalytic converters. The most common cause of getting the ignition timing off by 180 degrees is installing a camshaft and a new timing chain and gear set with the dot on the crank gear on the top of the gear, and the dot on the cam gear at the bottom of the top gear. On a small block chev engine(actually any engine with firing order of 18436572), that is number 6 cylinder at TDC with both valves closed.

@gilbertvehicleservices 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats Alex! Years ago, I had a similar find on a 1966 Buick LeSabre. The car was super nice but barely ran. The owner had given up on it. I bought it and limped it a few miles home. I found someone installed the spark plug wires in a Chevrolet firing order. Once I changed them to a Buick firing order and retimed the engine, it ran great. Edelbrock carbs are easy to tune. Check their website for instructions.

@DalekBuilder 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to see it running and driving. Enjoying watching its progress from when it arrived on the back of the transporter.

@Steveindajeep 4 жыл бұрын

you still have to adjust the valve lash on a hydraulic lifter chevy 350 btw

@rmxrider20032000 4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. LOL

@brianburkard6101 4 жыл бұрын

When he said they get torqued down i died.

@andrewallen9537 4 жыл бұрын

@@brianburkard6101 me too!! I have adjusted hundreds of them. loosen until it clatters then tighten until clatter stops then a quarter to half a turn.the book says three quarters of a turn but I have found that to be just a little too much.

@parrottmatt23 4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone else think that someone took out the good motor and threw that motor in there? Hold down bolt is way too long, starter wasnt shimmed and wires crisscrossed

@brianburkard6101 4 жыл бұрын

@@parrottmatt23 definitely possible. doesnt sound cammed, stock stamped rockers, if it was a crate motor i would expect centerbolt valve covers. Its definetly been rebuilt crosshatches look almost new.

@jasoncrabtree552 4 жыл бұрын

Their is a adjustment to the rockers they dont torque down like newer engines.

@kennethgumm6870 4 жыл бұрын

Yup. Getting rocker timing, carb tuned, and general timing to all mesh can be a real pain in the ass. Just went through it with my C10.

@ginaboos9563 4 жыл бұрын

i always spin the pushrod and tighten till it stops spinning then tighten half turn. hydraulic lifters.

@327JohnnySS 4 жыл бұрын

With the engine running I back them off till they clack, slowly tighten until noise goes away.(zero lash) then one half turn from there using 1/4 turn increments. You can also use a old valve cover and cut about a 3/4" window down the length of the valve cover over the rocker arms. This way oil is not flying all over the place when making the adjustment.

@wolk3n 4 жыл бұрын

The only Chevy motors of that vintage that you torque the rockers down is the tbi 454

@charlesoutdoors2424 4 жыл бұрын

@@327JohnnySS This is the way we did it back when I worked in my dads shop years ago.

@mindtouchone 4 жыл бұрын

A quick check for a bent pushrod is to start the engine and adjust for a very low idle. If the pushrod is bent the rocker arm will move back and forth across the valve tip, not up and down but move in a lateral motion. This can be done with the engine not running too by spinning the pushrod with your fingers while the valve is closed.

@UsedBrain4U 4 жыл бұрын

I am not a "car guy" but I you showed up on my feed and I have enjoyed seeing your series of videos to get that Banshee going. Great job on your videos.

@srp365 4 жыл бұрын

Short pins 1 and 2 on the OBD connector with a paperclip, turn the key to on and count the flashes to get your codes.

@draysum1234 4 жыл бұрын

That car has had all the emission controls removed anyway. No need to check the codes, just remove the check engine light bulb.

@novavroomvroom4759 4 жыл бұрын

Yesssss....thank you for reminding me of that trick

@srp365 4 жыл бұрын

@@draysum1234 it's old enough it doesn't have to pass emissions, true

@9Apilot 4 жыл бұрын

The codes would probably indicate there wasn't an engine installed.

@normanmanske 4 жыл бұрын

In California it would still need to pass emissions because there emission exempt is 1975 and older

@jdog5534 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that this car found a good home, good job on getting it running right.

@michaelbloom5342 4 жыл бұрын

A paper clip doubles as an OBD-I scan tool.

@trevagraham1605 4 жыл бұрын

That's a fact. You can also use one as an OBD 2 as well. Used one to reset the Steering Angle Sensor on my Lexus RX 300.

@LonnieKII 4 жыл бұрын

mechanicbase.com/trouble-code/obd1-codes/

@LonnieKII 4 жыл бұрын

Used a paperclip or a short piece of wire for the longest time, got an actual GM key in the last few years I had my 83' (Knight Rider T/A) in 2001

@kendewitt5811 4 жыл бұрын

Beat me to it! I think it was the two right most pins on the top row of the ALDL? Been 20 years since I had my 3rd Gen Fbody

@thepodgram9268 4 жыл бұрын

You can read the codes with a paper clip. Short the A and B pins of the ALDL connector. These are the last 2 pins on the right top row of the connector (and if memory serves, the only place on the connector that has 2 pins side by side that have contacts in them. Once you short them together, turn the ignition to the "run" position (withouyt starting) and the check engine light will start flashing. It will cycle through the code "12" 3 times. (One flash, pause, 2 flashes = 12). Then, after the third cycle of "12", it will move on to any stored codes. It will flash a few times, pause, flash a few times. Count the flashes. For example, if it flashes 3 times, then pauses and then flashes 4 times, that would be a code 34. Once it cycles through all of the codes, it will flash "12" 3 times again and then start all over. Once you have your codes, turn the ignition off, pull the paper clip and get to work!

@KemuriKatani 4 жыл бұрын

You just have to know the right people to get an inspection in NY.

@demonsaint1296 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Santiago it’s like that in Virginia. If safety inspections were legit all insurance companies in the US would demand them in every state.

@jameshall4385 4 жыл бұрын

the computer won’t work because the distributor is the wrong type and none of the emissions look like they are hooked up

@MfEVoL 4 жыл бұрын

My dad has been a mechanic for 30 plus years, and he says set the timing to 4,and yes, there are two different speedo cable seals for that trans.

@toddstidham8374 4 жыл бұрын

People always misinterpret the distributor install instructions. When they say the rotor should point to the No. 1 cylinder when that cylinder is on TDC, what they really mean is "point the rotor to the distributor tower or connector you will use for the No. 1 spark plug wire". You could, in theory, pick any one of the 8 distributor connectors to be the No.1 spark plug wire, set the distributor in pointing the rotor to that new selected connector, then follow the firing order for the remaining wires and it will run the same.

@jasepoag8930 4 жыл бұрын

Now that I've seen the Hotwheels version, I definitely had this toy as a kid. I think it was actually one of my favorite cars.

@richdoingstuff 4 жыл бұрын

Gen1 and gen2 small block chevys need their valves lashed even if the lifters are hydraulic only if they weren’t lashed properly in the first place. Wouldn’t hurt to double check.

@LegitStreetCars 4 жыл бұрын

Cool thanks

@AJGreen-cn8kk 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, zero lash plus 1/2 turn to preload the lifters.

@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 4 жыл бұрын

@@LegitStreetCars For hydraulic lifters you can even do it while it's running, just don't rev it or squirt oil everywhere and even better if you have a set of valve covers with the center cutout if you can borrow some maybe?

@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 4 жыл бұрын

@@RedXray sure, it's just a little more complicated process, finding TDC, doing a few intakes, then roll it over & do the exhausts, etc... my Firebird had solid lifter so I had a Ford solenoid relocation to the fender well and used a bump switch, feeler guages and polylocks on the roller rockers every 3k miles, ugghhh. It's a long time ago, in my 1996 VHS "Burnouts and Boobs" in the Cars & Randy Metal playlist

@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 4 жыл бұрын

@@RedXray That's how it's done! compensate for that last turn of the outer nut before taking the feeler out {;o)

@fff-cf4fx 4 жыл бұрын

If it says hecho en mexico on the bell housing, google that casting number. Lots of info out there on specs on it. GM spec sheet for the corresponding part # for the long block they sold for years will help you get the right plugs, etc.

@MonzaRacer 4 жыл бұрын

Timing Advance set it at 12 to 16( check tab markings) initial, I like using advance recurve kit and install light springs on stock weights. Adjust idle speed and mixture. THEN hook advance up to manifold vacuum, then readjust carb at idle. Also if its got a 700r4 make sure to get throttle valve cable properly adjusted. Your car has all the emissions/electronics removed. You have standard HEI and what looks to be Edelbrock carb. You may also get dinged if it hasn't got cats on it.

@hermanshelton3660 4 жыл бұрын

I can tell you haven't dealt with a carburetor in a while. Adjust the idle screw bro hahaha.

@TimberWolf429 4 жыл бұрын

Actually, I'm thinking he has vacuum leaks, he did mention that it clears up with a little throttle. I have had the same experience on a few engines, rough idle, rich condition, and it all came down to vacuum lines being bad

@dazasc3994 4 жыл бұрын

@@TimberWolf429 i had a huge leak from my pcv grommet! old rubber goes hard and suddenly you have all kinds of crazy issues

@TimberWolf429 4 жыл бұрын

@@dazasc3994 yeah, it's crazy alright, I even had a tiny vacuum line come loose, and prevent an engine from starting. Never over look the importance of the engine's vacuum system.

@darrenswails 4 жыл бұрын

This guy sounds like a car guy version of mark rober

@madmagyver9981 4 жыл бұрын

Good to see it running. If that is a goodwrench 350, it's probably a 4 bolt main block. It's a great engine, it takes a lot of abuse. Your on the right track with this. A tune up is a good start, tune the carb(cold start/high idle) and (once the engine is tuned) set the transmission kick down cable position. After all that, the car should rip. I had a setup like that in a late 80s caprice. It would burnout all 4 gears and chirp the tires when full throttle downshifting.

@matthewsullivan1572 2 жыл бұрын

I used to own this car in NY. Bought it from the second owner who bought it from the builder. Was an eye catcher.! Good Luck with her. Glad it's still going.

@AlejandroMartinez-pl4np 4 жыл бұрын

Did you say that you set the timing at 12 degrees “after” Tdc? Google says “12 degrees BTDC”.

@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 4 жыл бұрын

... and even that is too much, should be about 8degrees at idle with vacuum disconnected and plugs, then 36 total

@fwddodge22 4 жыл бұрын

@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS i used to run 12 in my 350, it was forged flatt op with camel hump heads, 10:1 comp, that engine is probably no higher than 9.2 depending on the head. it'll run great as long as it doesnt have crappy gas in it.

@JW...-oj5iw 4 жыл бұрын

@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS ... You are right. Basic SBC initial timing works pretty well in the 8° BTC range. Did you look at that idiotic distributor clamp bolt and shake your head, too? Should be ¾" to 1" length. Something tells me that the intake manifold is punctured into the valley. May not be anything worse than crankcase venting a bit, but there's a chance that #8's runner is cracked. Oh well.

@hotrodZack1948 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s on a stock motor not a jegs crate motor. What he wants to do is rev it up and set the timing at full advance 32 degrees.

@eelecurb 4 жыл бұрын

LegitStreetCars is my new favorite car enthusiast channel.

@LegitStreetCars 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother!!

@greggv8 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting way to make a front pivot mount for the rear axle torque arm. The factory Camaro and Trans AM transmissions had special tail housings with the torque arm mount built in. But *welding* the fabricated mount to the car? That's just crazy nuts! It would be a very good idea to cut it off then weld in some nuts or use RIVNUT HRT inserts. Having that mount break off while going down the road would be a rather bad thing. Wouldn't pitch the car onto its nose but it could rip the rear axle out from under, along with some of that fancy fiberglass. That hatch is begging for some electric linear actuators to make it operable by mere mortals. Throttle body injection would be a good thing. Definitely want a kit that uses a Vehicle Speed Sensor. Jags That Run has a VSS with the mechanical speedo drive through it. They sell all the goodies for stuffing fuel injected Chevy V8's into old Jaguars. So much that could be done to turn this into a winning show car, or just fix the crappy bits so everything works and there's no gotchas laying in waiting to break, then flip it for a profit. If it was the fake supercar K.I.T.T. from that one episode, that would;ve really been cool.

@purefkingmagic2391 4 жыл бұрын

Dont worry about base timing, set total timing at around 2500-3000 rpm to 34degrees. Plug vac, let warm up and bring rpm up to about 3k and set. If balancer isn't degree'd that far will need to mark or have adj timing light. You might have to change centrifugal springs in distributor stiffer or lighter to achieve total mechanical timing from that 2500-3000 rpm range. Then put vac gauge on and adjust carb idle circuit then tape vac gauge to window and take out and mash it and see how close to zero engine pull vac at wot and adj jets to achieve closest to zero reading, closer to zero means engine is running more efficient. Also make sure distributor vac advance is on ported vac not full manifold vac port so at wot it's running strictly on mechanical advancement not vac advance. Drivability wise you can see as much as 50+ degree advance at partial throttle street driving but under heavy loading you don't want to go much over 34 degree mark or will get detonation issues and could damage if goes lean

@purefkingmagic2391 4 жыл бұрын

Also to adj idle circuit will vac gauge set idle to about 750 in park, 650ish in gear, adj idle mixture til you get highest stable vac reading, recheck idle rpm and adj back and forth til they match and engine responds well to throttle blurpping in gear with surging afterwards or dieing

@bucksnortbumblefuk6872 4 жыл бұрын

Last comment, you want to adjust total timing w vac line hooked up. Idle up engine to 1500 and see what total timing is.

@aaronguerrette 4 жыл бұрын

6:50 I disagree. You can and should adjust the lifter while the engine is running. Adjust out the rocker nut until the engine tone changes and creates a lifter pump up and the. Hot lash it. Google for amount of turn.

@ariyanadumon4549 4 жыл бұрын

If memory serves it's two turns.

@aaronguerrette 4 жыл бұрын

@@ariyanadumon4549 yea I used to do a turn and a half. On my Gen1 SBC in my 70 Chevelle. 87 Monte and bunch of other cars. I'd only do cold lash on a new engine or solid lifter but with the heat and fluids I'd rather be adjust based on operating temps

@andrewallen9537 4 жыл бұрын

@@ariyanadumon4549 half to three quarters of a turn any more than that and it will run like crap

@ariyanadumon4549 4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewallen9537 thanks, it's been a while.

@Paulie_KITT 4 жыл бұрын

I would check your choke, and set the fast idle to 1000 RPM. Once the choke opens, set the normal idle to 800 RPM. Also read up on how to set the idle mixture screws. Your SEL is lit due to the carb swap, it was probably EFI at some point. I've rebuilt countless 3rd gen F-bodies, and I still own an 1985 Trans Am, and a 1992 Camaro. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions, I'm always happy to help!

@joedoe4642 4 жыл бұрын

You’re a cool dude, why can’t I ever get a neighbor like yourself. Awesome vids, keep them coming

@the74impala 4 жыл бұрын

No code reader, just a jumper and count the flashes.

@JUST_ONE_ID10T 4 жыл бұрын

I've done that in a 1988 fiero. :)

@FishinPhreak 4 жыл бұрын

Yep. OBD1 scanner, otherwise known as a paper clip.

@lumpylowell 4 жыл бұрын

You can get a key chain jumper for $5 at AutoZone

@572chevybb 4 жыл бұрын

They make an OBD1 reader for $25 on Amazon but a paperclip is the same thing

@mark197508 4 жыл бұрын

With all the factory stuff removed the obd port worthless

@monzahunter 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely need to adjust valves on gen 1 small blocks, not hard.

@buckaroobonsi555 4 жыл бұрын

I put a Chevy Small Block and 700R4 into a 1986 Toyota 4Runner. I kept the 4 wheel drive. On a 4 wheel dyno I was getting 350HP to the wheels. I had a lot of issues with 700R4 Dipstick seal going bad every 6 to 12 months. I always knew when it went bad because it would shoot ATF onto the exhaust and you would get that paraffin smell. Occasional weeping from trans-pan no matter what brand of gasket I used. I ended up going to "The Right Stuff" black RTV and that solved the pan weeping. The speedo and governor would weep every now and again never could get that to stop. I used a Carter AFB with manual choke and mechanical secondary's. I live in Michigan and ran 5W40 Rotella T year round. Today I would use M1 0W40 unless it was an oil burner. My then girlfriend now wife drove it as well. I have been using M1 0W40 in 03 Camry, 07 Camry, 1995.5 Tacoma and 2008 Saturn Aura for about 10 years now and none of my car's or truck consume oil between my OCI's! IDLE SHOULD be between 600rpm and 900rpm depending on cam and stall converter in transmission. A good aiming spot for warm idle would be 700rpm in park 550 to 600 in gear again warm and around 12 degree's. That is ball park not cast in stone!

@geneolson6618 4 жыл бұрын

If you want to stick with the carburetor set up, get the spring and jet set for the Edelbrock 1405 or 1406 carburetor. I ran the same carburetor and it treated me very well. The 1405 kit is for the manual choke, but it has more spring, jet and metering rods choices. Just spin the electric choke until it acts how you want it--make sure it has power to the electric choke. My old 350 had a little bigger cam than yours and it really liked around 31 degrees of total timing after all advance is factored into the equation. You probably do not need to rebuild the carburetor, but it is easy to do so knock yourself out.

@nutsackbear8053 4 жыл бұрын

Removing a five speed manual to put in an automatic is blasphemous!

@jacksmith3097 4 жыл бұрын

Especially a 700r4

@HFV_Junkyardin 4 жыл бұрын

IIRC the manual in a third gen can’t take more than like 250hp. That’s why you could only get a manual with the 305.

@nutsackbear8053 4 жыл бұрын

@@HFV_Junkyardin right, but that is not the point! Why not drop a 4 speed in it? Or a stronger 5 speed?

@zundfolge1432 4 жыл бұрын

because shifting with a clutch is so old school(sarscasm truckload delivered). Why he can have an auto trans and blow that up then spend more money getting it rebuilt. old school manual trans got better gas mileage. Today most people cant drive stick and would much rather pay for a auto trans that cost double or triple a manual trans with much more shit to fail or crap out taking the whole trans with it.

@nutsackbear8053 4 жыл бұрын

@@zundfolge1432 right, also, not many of those cars came with a stick from the factory! That is kinda rare for that! I just can't believe this was a hotrod guy doing this! I think he said it was the second owner who put the automatic in it! At least the guy who built it understood! I'm sure he chose one with a stick intentionally!

@Olds_Gold 4 жыл бұрын

Next time use a bottoming tap when blind tapping

@KontoVonMir 4 жыл бұрын

You wanna power time it. Vacuum disconnected and plugged like you did already in the video. Warm motor, rev it up to 4000 (depending on the springs for the mechanical advance in the distributor, sometimes it stops advancing after 3500). Then rotate the distributor until it hits about 34 degrees. That's a pretty safe number. With good gas you might be able to do 35-36. This is the amount of degrees where the engine will make most power at WOT without the risk of detonation. It's significantly more important than the timing setting at idle!

@coachnutt61 4 жыл бұрын

Paperclip to check the codes. To get the check engine codes to flash in your dash panel, use a jumper wire or a paper clip and connect terminals A and B of the diagnostic connector. Turn your ignition key on with engine off and the codes should start to blink. All codes should start with code 12 which is one long flash followed by 2 short flashes

@stevep8525 4 жыл бұрын

is that hold down bolt to long? bottoming out?

@LegitStreetCars 4 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought but I got it to work

@mark197508 4 жыл бұрын

Ya that bolt way to long. Inch an half is all it needs an way to many people over tighten that bolt

@mark197508 4 жыл бұрын

8 degree of timing for that stockish engine.an I would put a total timing at 36 degrees all in by 3600 rpm

@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 4 жыл бұрын

@@mark197508 Uh oh, ur getting way too complicated talking about initial vs. total timing advance curves here buddy... people will be doing this with the vacuum lines still connected now.

@mark197508 4 жыл бұрын

@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS lol..I get ahead myself sometime.to me it's natural tuning carbs an distributor. I have done a couple ls swap s an they are even carbed

@Darth-.-Vaper 4 жыл бұрын

The obd1 in my Silverado is literally just a jumper in obd connector and codes flash on dash. You can probably get your codes with a staple

@SkylineFTW97 4 жыл бұрын

I do the same with my Civic. Has a stubborn code that won't go away, but it doesn't have to pass emissions, so I don't really care. I trust it enough to drive it every day.

@Ridinfixinman 4 жыл бұрын

The orientation of #1 wire on the cap is immaterial. You can put 1 anywhere, as long as the rest of the firing order is correct.

@tonyt3509 4 жыл бұрын

Those heads are lighweight castings of '70s 882s that are pretty common with 76cc chambers. I do 30-36 degrees total timing, maybe 4-8 base. Turn the front idle screws all the way in, then back out 1-1.5 turns to start over on the mixture after motors warmed up.

@greaterajax13 4 жыл бұрын

You passed by as I was getting coffee at Dunkin donuts @ Devon and NWH.

@brianburkard6101 4 жыл бұрын

That start up before driving sounds like timing is off. The engine light is on because the engine in it isnt connected to the computer

@TwentytenS4B8 4 жыл бұрын

You can also use a drinking straw in the spark plug hole on cylinder 1. When the piston reaches TDC, it will pop the straw out and watch for it to start to go back down then back the engine up, line up the timing marks and you're golden.

@bobbova8708 4 жыл бұрын

nice to see she runs and drives!regarding the check engine light it seems pretty clear that you have no computer feedback carb or dizzy-do not see any o2 sensor either.light is on because ecm is bypassed.

@jpal1486 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see her when she's running pristine.

@PAFORM350 4 жыл бұрын

Also ditch the ac that’s sitting there not hooked and for the love of god vacuum the trash off the windshield cowl

@truepatriot8947 4 жыл бұрын

BEST DEAL EVER!!! Way to go man! Somewhere somehow the previous owner got screwed..But you landed and hell of a deal on a sick car!!!

@Buc_Stops_Here 4 жыл бұрын

That is so lucky. Just a misdiagnosis and an incorrectly installed distributor cap. That is amazing! Great video!

@andrewmattera6205 4 жыл бұрын

Go talk to thunderhead289 about carburetors

@andrewmattera6205 4 жыл бұрын

1967 Chevelle LSx it’s nothing compared to a quadrijunk carb but it’s still useful to talk with one of the community’s de facto carburetor guy. He’s got dozens of insightful and helpful videos and tutorials, that I figured would be helpful

@tomp3981 4 жыл бұрын

That firing order was messed up and that bolt was way too long .

@peterdarr383 4 жыл бұрын

The firing order was simply sequential counter-clockwise for someone's reference. Same fool put in too long of a bolt for the distributor.

@JW...-oj5iw 4 жыл бұрын

@@peterdarr383 ... SBC engines from '55 on have clockwise distributor rotation. 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. One of the common errors guys did back in the day was cross 5 and 7, since they are adjacent on the engine and the cap. Engine would run, but very poorly.

@mcalvinscott 4 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter where on the cap the wires are. As long As the rotor matches the cylinder that is at top dead center. One of the first lessons an old timer taught me 25yrs ago, all older Chevy motors have the same firing order as long as it has a factory firing order cam. He made me sing it. 18436572. Over and over.5x a day. Never will forget that.

@adamkirkham4628 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but that brown wire off of the distributor that you pointed out is how you adjust the timing without the computer advance trying to pull out the timing. With the electronic timing you set it to 0 and the computer will pull the timing. I am not entirely sure how this works for your setup as it looks like your distributor has the vacuum advance and your engine is carbureted (my 89 GTA and 90 Silverado have the electronic advance and fuel injection/tbi respectively). Also to check the OBD I you just have to still a paperclip in to connect pins A and B to make the check engine light flash the codes.

@travishill908 4 жыл бұрын

I’d pull timing back to 8-10 and adjust your idle screw

@GoldFireX 4 жыл бұрын

Ditch those door straps and get some electric door poppers.

@TRIGGERHAPPYXX 4 жыл бұрын

I concur

@dontebravo3788 4 жыл бұрын

For ODB1, use paper clip to jump ports a and b, then the service engine light will flash the code(s) that it has stored. So dont need antique reader to pull it, and cost less than 10 cents. :)

@Ridinfixinman 4 жыл бұрын

The sbc likes a bit of timing. Anywhere from 8 to 12 degrees is a good place to start. For thr idle and starting, check mixture. Also some edelbrock carbs will boil a little fuel over after sitting about 15 minutes. Try cracking the throttle plates open a bit while cranking when hot.

@everydayj9330 4 жыл бұрын

Somewhere in NY a garage foreman is getting their ass chewed by the former owner of this car, is my bet... ;)

@tonyadams09 4 жыл бұрын

Great job again the car was a steal im sure and your a great mechanic.

@Mike-xt2ot 4 жыл бұрын

The rocker arms ARE adjustable. Look it up on any site. Very simple to adjust. If you just " torque them down " you will bend pushrods or bend valves upon spinning it over trying to start it.

@OpenRoader 4 жыл бұрын

I am really enjoying this series. Keep'em coming!

@donMocceci 4 жыл бұрын

luv it & looking forward to next episode! Greetings from Zagreb, Croatia

@Dex99SS 4 жыл бұрын

An OBD1 Scanner is a paperclip... short the data pins, count the flashes.

@ratvette6156 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta love GM OBD1, easy to get the codes. But...if the computer is there at all, there is nothing left to control. No computer carb, distributor, O2 sensor, MAP sensor. The computer has as much control left as Nancy Pelosi!

@hopelessnerd6677 4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't have believed it could sound that good after hearing it the first time. This whole car is proof that just because you can buy tools without a license doesn't mean you should.

@parrotheadlasvegas 4 жыл бұрын

AWESOME 😎 Here’s a tip for OBD 1 😉 How to Check the Engine Light Codes for car and trucks made on and before 1995 For GM domestic vehicles made before 1995 The diagnostic connector is located under the dash panel by the driver side. To get the check engine codes to flash in your dash panel, use a jumper wire or a paper clip and connect terminals A and B of the diagnostic connector. Turn your ignition key on with engine off and the codes should start to blink. All codes should start with code 12 which is one long flash followed by 2 short flashes. This code 12 means the diagnostic system is normal and will repeat itself continuously if there are no trouble codes. Otherwise, code 12 will flash 3 times before flashing the fault codes.

@peruprofundodance 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta see this thing in person at a car meet!

@LegitStreetCars 4 жыл бұрын

Totally! I'll be out and about for sure

@ericjenks9596 4 жыл бұрын

Ethanol gas in upstate ny. Gums carbs up like nothing else around here

@chilled_24_75 4 жыл бұрын

actually ethanol cleans up gummage you just get bad gas

@taxfreedollars 4 жыл бұрын

The main problem with Edelebrock carbs is the bushes for the primary and secondary shafts are made of rubbish material and wear out. The primary ones wear out first and as result the engine will never idle properly, the engine will suck air in through the gaps in the shaft and and upset the mixture and the shaft never returns to the same place when revved, giving it an erratic idle. Apart from that they are not to bad, the bushes can be replaced but it is a bit time consuming, I have only done it once, a long time ago and after that the engine ran great, prior to that the engine idle was all over the place.

@ExtraFungus 4 жыл бұрын

A lot of shops can't be trusted with carburators and distributors these days. I went through it in a friend's RV, the PO spent a bunch of money at one or more shop. The main problem turned out to be just the fuel filter in the quadrajet. They did all kinds of shinanigans with electric fuel pumps and more.