My Caribbean Medical School Experience

My Caribbean Medical School Experience | This Was Unexpected...

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4 жыл бұрын

I visited St. George's University, one of the big 4 Caribbean medical schools. The experience was anything but expected. Here's what I learned about Caribbean medical schools.
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03:00 - Things I like
03:36 - Things I don’t like
04:37 - Step 1
05:21 - Match rate & attrition
08:48 - Anatomy lab
09:39 - Culture shock
10:22 - Cost
10:56 - Student culture
12:03 - Student support
14:08 - Updates to my original Caribbean videos
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@kevinjubbalmd 4 жыл бұрын

This was a great practice in me being mindful of the reciprocity rule from Influence by Cialdini. I liked a lot of the staff and people I met at SGU, so no disrespect to them, but I cannot allow myself to be filtered or have premeds be lied to without calling this stuff out. If I'm fortunate enough to be on KZfaq and have people watch them, then it's my responsibility to serve my viewers. Thanks for watching. I love you all. EDIT: No disrespect at all to Caribbean students. I have tremendous respect for the doctors and residents I have worked with who were trained in the Caribbean. They worked an uphill battle and overcame the odds. Will be making a follow up video to elaborate further

@oreman011 4 жыл бұрын

I was afraid clicking on this that this would just be a shill. Thanks for staying true!

@justinmoore5589 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos. I love how thorough and well thought out they are. Your videos have really helped me understand the process behind becoming a physician. I decided late in the game I wanted to go to medical school. Therefore, I am lacking in a phew key areas that might allow acceptance in traditional U.S. based medical schools. With that being said, do you have data showing how often or if any U.S. medical schools misrepresent their attrition rates, pass/fail rates, and Step 1 averages? I would be very interested in learning this. Thank you so much for all you do! You are the man!!!

@its9333 4 жыл бұрын

Damn..I missed him...

@moniquedavidson988 4 жыл бұрын

Please do an analysis on Cuba med schools

@MV-qw2dw 4 жыл бұрын

@@moniquedavidson988 would be interested! Please do!

@tigger911ish 4 жыл бұрын

SGU probably regretting their decision to invite you DrJ.. Lol

@tq131 4 жыл бұрын

it was a great video showcasing the other side of Caribbean medical school. It should be your last straw, but if anyone decides to go there, I believe they can be successful with the right mentality. 30% of students are dropping out because those people shouldn't have been qualified to go to medical school in the first place. They probably kept the lazy study habits that kept them through university at average GPA. Anyone watching this and decides to go to Caribb school, you will need to change. They won't hold your hands like Canadian medical schools (i.e. UBC realllly don't want to fail you). Don't think about being put in prison. You are only going to be there for 2 years before rotations, and those hard few years will change the 50 years of your future life.

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

@@tq131 SGU is like damn someone with a brain actually proved how shady we are not a great business model

@preppypuppy2638 4 жыл бұрын

tigger911ish They were the ad that played before this video...I'm choking on the irony.

@insidemansions453 2 жыл бұрын

😩😩😩😂😂😂

@trevorwatkins7171 4 жыл бұрын

You should absolutely go around to U.S. Medical schools and do this same assessment. It would be incredibly enlightening to know how culture differs around the U.S. and which medical schools are just bullshitting. There is NO appropriate source online for this sort of thing right now. U.S. News and Review is a joke. As an applying student, I want to know what it's like to actually go there. How about a series where you travel around, visit a ton of medical schools, and talk to all of the students?

@kevinjubbalmd 4 жыл бұрын

I like this idea

@TerenceThomas 4 жыл бұрын

I agree US news sucks lol this would be a great idea

@thanhthanhvo5191 4 жыл бұрын

THIS IS SUCH AN AMAZING IDEA!

@stephenr4185 4 жыл бұрын

Kinda like Flexner 2.0. Maybe we’ll just call it the Jubbal report.

@aubreyingram3582 4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Especially some of the “big name” DO schools. Tuition creeping up to $80k annually, decreased student resources, difficulties with combined NRMP Match, etc.

@knzay 4 жыл бұрын

i was so ready for this to be a fluffy, ass-kissing video about how your mind has been changed since visiting the campus. boy was i wrong

@ngoctam850 4 жыл бұрын

Ke La same, can’t believe I put this school as my backup plan😬

@hassanarshad3805 4 жыл бұрын

SGU: invites Dr. Jubbal on an all-expense-paid trip to make them look good Dr. Jubbal: I'm about to end this school's whole career

@smiley8106 4 жыл бұрын

Hassan Arshad lmaoo

@chrisnettles3133 4 жыл бұрын

SGU is the 2nd largest provider of physicians in American and have placed more students into US residencies for the past ten years combined than any other school in the world, and you think they will go away? Who would fill those spots?

@hassanarshad3805 4 жыл бұрын

Chris Nettles no I don’t think they’ll go away, it’s just that “I’m about to shed light on this school’s predatory practices but ultimately not affect their profits” doesn’t make for as good of a punchline

@MV-qw2dw 4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmcgwire849 apply to polish med schools. Cheaper , better and able to get residency in the US. Some schools allow student loans. Not many know of this option. It's often kept a secret.

@littlejackalo5326 3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisnettles3133 it's called quality over quantity.

@mahidac 4 жыл бұрын

Caribbean MD here, also a cardiology fellow currently - every student considering a Caribbean pathway for their MD should legit watch this video. Very well done

@LilJbm1 3 жыл бұрын

If you are the hopeful orthopod I want to say I respect you so much and much love, the blog was heartbreaking. If not I very much recommend reading that blog, the $1M mistake. Wonderful med student, wonderful resident, wonderful researcher it seemed, and all the points people make about you/the blogger being egotistical are not fair as the blog makes the clear point that even an insanely successful physician is just worse off at the Caribbean. I very much am a believer in objective metrics, the P/F reform of Step 1 will be terrible, and if you have the skills, and a heart in the right place, you'll make a great cardiologist!

@kevincorrigan1754 3 жыл бұрын

@@LilJbm1 is that the guy who wrote the million dollar blog?

@LilJbm1 3 жыл бұрын

@@kevincorrigan1754 Not sure but they were both Caribbean MDs and cardiology fellows so on the off chance they were the same person I wanted to share. How many Caribbean cardiology fellows are there in the states? A few dozen maybe?

@Valcreee 4 жыл бұрын

well that backfired for SGU lol

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

terrible school man im speaking from experience unfortunately stick to a US school

@tiffanyjoyxP 4 жыл бұрын

George Lampros what was your plan after leaving them ?

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

@@tiffanyjoyxP text me personally

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

@@tiffanyjoyxP NP

@Hepacivirus 3 жыл бұрын

@@georgelampros4593 why is it a terrible school

@DavyBoy81 4 жыл бұрын

My cousin went to an IMG school, came back to the states and ended up becoming Chief Resident. You need to put in the work most definitely.

@isaiah3787 4 жыл бұрын

That wouldn’t have anything to do with your med school though.

@OrganicDolphin 2 жыл бұрын

This is completely irrelevant

@DrAdnan 4 жыл бұрын

“...and that’s it for things that I like” -straight savage 😂

@littlegiant101 4 жыл бұрын

I go to a Caribbean medical school, because I'm from the Caribbean and currently MS4 in the US, and I was on this one rotation, where the attending called all of us into a patient room and called on one of the students and asked him to identify the rash on a teenage patient. It was clear cut what the rash was but this student he called on didn't quite understood what he was asking, as the doctor him self had a very strong accent. The doctor got so upset and into front of the patient and he's mom said "JUST IGNORE THEM, THEY KNOW NOTHING, THEY'RE NOT FROM HERE, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WORK HERE!" I was shattered and felt extremely disrespected, I worked hard to get here, got amazing step1 and shelf scores and for this man to say "IMG's" know nothing!, I was crushed! Still crushed, I get teary eyed, every time I think of it!

@MV-qw2dw 4 жыл бұрын

What an ahole..

@lovefunkrockmusic 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that happens in healthcare. It’s a dog eat dog mentality. Just work hard and smart and prove that preceptor wrong

@amretsekhon976 4 жыл бұрын

Former Carib student, I was always told I was less than US grads for picking my path, but when I did, it was the option I had (I advise against it now bc of a lot of the challenges). Because I knew no one would take me seriously I WORKED my butt off and at times during fourth year was put in charge of training US MD/DOs on certain rotations. It sucks that people can just let our work speak for itself, you'll frequently be seen as "less than" purely for where you went to school. but Caribbean school made me more self-sufficient than a lot of our US counterparts, we had to struggle with admin that didn't care about us, take a lot into our own hands, and meet challenges most people in the US don't. It definitely makes you a stronger and more empathetic clinician in the end. also, all that being said, I loved living on the island. At the end of the day, not having a dozen poptart flavors to choose from at the grocery store isn't that big of a deal when you get to live in perfect weather all year round.

@trcherrera 3 жыл бұрын

@@amretsekhon976 Same sentiments here. This is relatable coming from a southeast asian physician. My take is that not everyone will eventually wanna work in the US which is I think consistent with what Dr. Jubbal was telling. I am for any medical school simply because we need more doctors than we actually have. Some go back to the US and some dont. Patients need doctors everywhere. Schools like SGU or any medical school offers a unique opportunity for those who decided to go there to rise above and be exposed for their particular challenges and it will end up contributing to their uniqueness as a physician and strengths in future I hope. So for physicians really wanting to be working in the US, then probably this advise sounds reasonable. But also consider the other side. Doctors who want to be doctors at their core need institutions for them to become one. Its up to them where to go from there and conquer that next step themselves.

@failyourwaytothetop 2 жыл бұрын

@@trcherrera You speak like a winner that will rise above any obstacles life has to offer.

@Kickbackfool87 4 жыл бұрын

I knew all of this from past research, but I still watched it to see if you'd let yourself be swayed. Your honesty and trustworthiness is refreshing. There are a lot of people who would have been in your shoes and let the smoke fill up their ass until they couldn't see straight. I appreciate your objective approach despite the wining and dining they did.

@WeamAhmed95 4 жыл бұрын

My man Dr. Jubba did NOT hold back 👏🏽 very informative

@doctorlife 4 жыл бұрын

Woah, that’s insane - a huge eye opener. I hope this video helps future students with their decisions and the universities to up their standards! You’re filmography has upgraded as well, I like this change 💪🏼

@philtastic1 4 жыл бұрын

Kevin, you are the most ethical and moral premed advisor. Great job for staying unbiased and honest. I respect you so much brother!

@venusd1946 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!! YOU ARE THE BEST PRE-MED advisors!! This guy is like an investigative journalist!! In the premed world!!

@kevinjubbalmd 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@smiley8106 4 жыл бұрын

So true! I don’t waste my time with advisors anymore. Last time I saw an advisor was first semester freshman year lol. Then the rest was KZfaq.

@dmdm9232 3 жыл бұрын

Deep RESPECT to you Doc for being so transparent with your truth instead of being bought by the fancy offerings by SGU. May you soar to tremendous heights in all that you do! Wishing you so much love and blessings to come your way! 🙏🏽

@AN-gz6xm 4 жыл бұрын

Extremely helpful! Straight forward, honest and thorough just like always! Thank you for putting in the time and effort to make useful quality content. Much appreciated 😊

@Am-Not-Jarvis 4 жыл бұрын

"Honorary pre-med adviser". I think with all you have contributed to students in need, you can drop the "honorary" title.

@mets3245 4 жыл бұрын

I have to say, I stumbled across your channels today and I'm obsessed. I clicked on this one expecting you to cow from a free trip, but you gave a really fair and insightful perspective. I love how you speak, I love your priorities, you're incredibly charismatic and I only wish I discovered your channel sooner! I'm going to be searching your channel to see if you have any videos on preparing for SOAP- 8 days until Black Monday

@jsanjuan93 4 жыл бұрын

This is a critically important video for those interested in medicine. Thanks for doing this as pre-meds need non-biased perspectives, especially with the changes to Step 1 coming in the near future.

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

Do you believe that the new changes to step 1 will make it harder for carribean students to match?

@stellawine4976 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for being honest about your experience with SGU!! This video is super helpful even after watching your previous video about Caribbean medical schools.

@PrincessPeachGummy 4 жыл бұрын

Honest, unfiltered, blunt truths about the med school admission and residency application process is so rare and precious. Students who perceive this as hurtful don't understand how valuable and empowering this information is! Advisors don't care about you--they care about their institutions. They have little incentive to help students achieve their true goals. Anti-fragilism is ESSENTIAL to beating the odds and and becoming the physician you want to be. It's so easy for people to sugarcoat things and give you a cookie for floating along and carrying out tasks that require little effort. A healthy amount of stoicism supplemented by the motto "nobody cares, work harder" helped me to swallow my pride, work my butt off, and get me to the medical school and ultimately residency position I wanted.

@damian8827 4 жыл бұрын

This is why I'm subscribed to your two channels. Keep up the good work. Really appreciate your videos

@frantzfudoshian1548 4 жыл бұрын

You should definitely make a series where you (possibly a team of others) visit many medical MD and DO schools in America and see if it's "Jubbal Approved" Complete transparency and pulling the curtains before our eyes, it'll definitely help applicants make a better school list as well as schools see their faults and actually tackle these challenges And bring light to the sacrifices when pursuing medicine and not have this stigma of being nearly impossible and something unachievable

@lovefunkrockmusic 4 жыл бұрын

Frantz Fudoshian Especially DO schools. There are DO schools that are questionable like Nova Southeastern

@taylorbarney1772 4 жыл бұрын

lovefunkrockmusic what are your reasons? What is their Match rate and average step/COMLEX score?

@samhitanair4072 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being such a genuine mentor.

@victorian1010 4 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how I was so confident and prepared to apply to a carribean school especially SGU but now you really have given me something to think about and I really appreciate that.

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

He is absolutely right I went to SGU baaaaad

@Derek.Mitchell 4 жыл бұрын

Insightful video! I was seriously considering SGU as a safety school and this helped guide my decision to exclude it from my list. I would love to see similar videos contrasting public vs private schools, university location vs medical center location, etc.

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

go to a US school yup

@mustafashah373 4 жыл бұрын

Love you honest review! Thanks for posting this kind of info.

@johngrey1074 4 жыл бұрын

US MD > DO > Carib MD Retake the MCAT. Do a post-bacc/SMP. Boost your ECs. Do anything you can in order to avoid a school like SGU, even if it means delaying your applications by a year or two. Don’t gamble with your future.

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I had listened to this advice

@DrMaja9Urkel 3 жыл бұрын

Have you gone to SGU?

@youreokay7888 3 жыл бұрын

is DO the same as MD or worse, and why?

@johngrey1074 3 жыл бұрын

@@youreokay7888 The degrees are equal once you're a practicing physician. But when you're applying for residency, you have more options available to you as a US MD graduate. But IMGs (people who get MDs from offshore schools) are the worst off.

@jaysmith6013 3 жыл бұрын

Every potential med student needs to watch this to make an educated decision about where to go

@pamkaur1426 4 жыл бұрын

I went to SGU. It is true that this school is very cut throat. It is true that for some, the amount of work that is required of them is so overwhelming that they fail a class or drop out. I personally did not look at attrition rates when I was looking into carib medical schools. There are people from all walks of life at this school, with all kinds of personalities. You cannot say that this many people failed or dropped out so I will too. You have to know what YOU want and how much you want it before even thinking about medical school at all, no matter if its a US school or a carib. I think SGU should portray the attrition rates accurately, but even if they don't it is irrelevant to your decision if you know that you are willing to do whatever it takes to achieve your goals. St George's is the number 1 provider of doctors in the US. They know what they are doing and they do it well. It is ALLLLLLL about way you put into it. And if you do, you will ultimately be a stronger, more caring and more confident doctor knowing that you overcame so much to make it to that point. I know I certainly am. Lastly, going to Grenada for med school was the first time I left my small hometown and my family... a culture shock was inevitable BUT it was not nearly as extreme as portrayed here. SGU does a lot to make the transition as seamless as possible. The island is beautiful... I don't know of any student that doesn't miss it after they leave. It was my favorite part about medical school.

@shl2133 3 жыл бұрын

I want to like your post 10000 times if i can. I agree with you 100%. SGU is definitely not an easy path to become a physician but it definitely will make you a stronger person mentally and emotionally so we can serve our patients with more humility.

@MikeSmith-zo6eu 4 жыл бұрын

Let me tell you, being a SGU student. It don’t come easy, nothing is handed too you. It’s extra tough, and you have to want it. I didn’t get to 4th year by mistake, I worked my ass off. The people that fail out go and party and don’t study and fail term after term. U have to want it, it’s not going to be given to you.

@luisalfredo74 3 жыл бұрын

your right, i’m term 5 now in sgu and it takes hard work just to pass the exams and i’m not the best student

@shl2133 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. The drop out rate is high just because the incoming rate is too high. It doesn’t portray the incompetence of the school nor students who survived

@Hepacivirus 3 жыл бұрын

@@luisalfredo74 is it a good university, I was thinking about it

@luisalfredo74 3 жыл бұрын

Hepacivirus idk if its worth it anymore since step is pass/fail

@Hepacivirus 3 жыл бұрын

@@luisalfredo74 oh I see

@Painter38R 11 ай бұрын

My son graduated in 2021. High honors throughout college and pre med. Received Md from SGU and still has not matched! Very few residencies take SGU . We have applied 4 times for em and fm. He went to SGU because of a scholarship. BIG MISTAKE. The folks have little contacts to help...your rotations are in the worst hodpitals...he added an MS in bioengineering from NYU ..honor roll in 2022, certificate in medical coding in 2023, MS in computer sci before med school, extensive travel in Asia and speaks japanese. $600,000 in debt, unemployed. Planning to move to Japan to teach English (got certified to teach english as second language). My son is a workaholic...and did not get ONE EM interview. US citizen born in Mt Sinai Hospital. As a caucasian male he is the bottom of the list for hire...add carib grad to that.... SGU adds more mds to USA...but mds CANNOT PRACTICE medicine unless they have a residency and most residencies won't interview them. One more issue...If you are a US citizen you are still considered a foreign student even though you rotated with everyone else in US hospitals. A nother issur...Lincoln hospital...funded by our tax dollars...check out fm residencies...Directed by foreign dr...all residents from India, pakistan, saudi arabia, syria! Do not do Carib med schools..look at eras...check how many matches...sgu said 970 matches this year....they do not indicate how many years of graduates...they graduate 2000 students more a less a year....where are the others?..I was blocked from the SGU parent gtoup for telling the truth! Sorry...Sunday morning rant. Supporting depressed md living at home again...single mom and his twin brother investigating every possibility daily as another match season approaches.

@Painter38R 11 ай бұрын

Sorry about typos...no edit button😳

@sonnyreel289 7 күн бұрын

Really sorry your son has had a rough time. My daughter graduated last year and just finished her 1st year of residency in EM. Her boyfriend went to SGU and just finished his 1st year of residency also in EM. Both are in the Miami area of Florida and did their rotations there also. Tell your son not to give up...keep pushing forward!

@juliansolotorres 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Dr. Jubbal, thanks so much for the video. I’ve watched it before applying to medical school, and I watched it again as a medical student at SGU. Your overall opinions are spot on (at least in my perspective). I’m thankful to have a chance to become a physician someday in the US and know I have to get through another year here in the Caribbean before I go back and do my clinical years in the US. If you’re a current pre med and are thinking about applying to medical school in the US at least apply twice if you don’t get in the first time before applying to the Caribbean. I was already older and wanted to get my medical journey started so that’s why I applied to a Caribbean medical school, but I do see now the difficulties that has come with my decision including; cost of housing is outrageous, food is expensive and almost always out of stock, people aren’t the friendliest and all that piles up. But I do believe you will come out of this experience as an overall more patient and tolerable person.

@spreadlove8947 4 жыл бұрын

🙏Thanks so much for taking out the time to educate us and keeping it real on what to expect

@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro 2 жыл бұрын

Woah! I did my surgical rotations w/4th yr. SGA students, many years ago. They didn't tell me ANY of this about their school! This was really an eye opener! 😯 Thank you, Dr.Jubbal.

@KukiRoxx 4 жыл бұрын

I am a senior undergrad student and I will be applying to medical school this cycle. Thank you so much for posting this video, Dr.Jubbal! MY GOAL is to apply and go to a US MD SCHOOL!!

@rider03 4 жыл бұрын

I'm an SGU grad, matched Internal Med on the first try, completed residency two years ago. I worked as an attending and then decided I wanted to go into interventional radiology instead of pursuing any of the medicine sub-specialties. I then stepped into the match for a second time and am currently almost done with my first year of residency in radiology. I agree SGU is not for everyone however, the bleek picture painted by Dr. Jubbal is not as accurate as it may seem. My classmates and I matched great specialties and many of our seniors are in high positions academically in various institutions throughout the U.S, SGU gets more respect than you think in clinical practice. In the end though, I agree exhaust your US options first, only because this stigma follows you for a few years and you constanly feel as if you must prove yourself, but for whatever reason, if you have to go to SGU its all about what you put into it. When its over you wont regret it.

@Mercyforthewicked 4 жыл бұрын

its awesome that it worked for you, however, things have changed drastically over the years included the number of applicants. i argue that the average med school applicant now compared to 10 years ago has much better stats. Its just incredibly competitive. Nonetheless, it does not mean its not doable.

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

@@Mercyforthewicked Jasleen you're so right

@MV-qw2dw 4 жыл бұрын

@@Mercyforthewicked this is absolutely correct. SGU has change in ownership and sold to a for profit company in 2015.

@sakethmeka1086 4 жыл бұрын

Dr. J you are insane and probably one of my favourite channels ever.

@raspberryK1 4 жыл бұрын

Dr. Jubbal, keepin' it so real. You are awesome! I hope I get to talk to you one day if you are ever in Chicago!

@CosmicFox808 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience. I really appreciate your honesty!

@joelthomas180 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you man. Seriously, thank you.

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

go to a US school

@jasminerennie3986 3 жыл бұрын

Currently an SGU student. And everything you say is true. And it’s so bad during the pandemic because in no way are they trying to re-incorporate people slowly but surely into the cariculum so that we can atleast try and get some practical stuff done. It’s 10x harder working online trying to figure out how to do all these physical examinations but at this point all I can do is give it my best

@kevinjubbalmd 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck my friend

@zerakhu 4 жыл бұрын

Your mindset in so refreshing to hear more of these kind of videos 🔥

@adilnusair8607 4 жыл бұрын

Bro I'm not even joking, I was planning on applying to the university because they gave me a too good to be true speech about the university. You saved me man!

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

I went there for over a semester and it was pure crap

@adilnusair8607 4 жыл бұрын

@@georgelampros4593 bruv after wut I've heard, if I went there i would feel the same way

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

@@adilnusair8607 Bro stick to a US school now thank me later lol

@Gross126 4 жыл бұрын

George Lampros so what did you do? Did you reapply to US med school?

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

@@Gross126 nope im becoming an NP

@jawaadhassan8866 4 жыл бұрын

I am a SGU grad, I put in hard work, Step scores were 250+ and matched a decent residency (non-surgical), and I take the credit for most of my achievements. Dont completely agree with the anatomy lab part of the video. My co-residents are mostly US grads and my anatomy knowledge is better than most of them andalthough I am in a non-surgical fields, there is a lot of anatomy in radiology. What you put in is what you get out.

@Mr-E. 4 жыл бұрын

Do you think the match rates of your peers was decent? Did it seem like a high attrition rate or low matching?

@squiggs1002 3 жыл бұрын

He wasn't talking about specific individuals he was talking about as a whole. Can you honestly say that the rest of your class was on your level? What was the average student like at your school?

@failyourwaytothetop 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr-E. Residency rates are pretty poor but I don't care whether I match or not. I only like pathology. I'm not interested in the living and pharmacology.

@issta7618 2 жыл бұрын

هلا جواد هل لى أسالك عن بعض الاستفسارات لو تسمح ؟

@MrE03 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your honest review, Dr Jubbal! Don’t let the downvoters get in the way of you telling the truth!

@hetvikhetia4354 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this Dr.Jubbal! I just dodged a bullet

@kevinjubbalmd 4 жыл бұрын

Woot! I do it for people like you. Premeds shouldn't be lied to

@DRCMassunken 4 жыл бұрын

Gold review! Thank you 🙏🏾

@jonlock5705 4 жыл бұрын

I always respect your honesty.

@nihalsatyadev8753 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Dr. Jubbal - I go to a Caribbean school (UMHS) which is not one of the big 5 but is accredited. I agree with some of your comments here but our school does have: A) real cadavers B) personalized experience C) a very low attrition rate

@solmaramos5112 3 жыл бұрын

Nihal Satyadev I’m surprised they don’t mention the 2 medical schools in P.R. Which are fully accredited and as good as any US school because they are US MD.

@bernardlz 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing Kevin!

@AdamNessim 4 жыл бұрын

great points kevin! I bring up the internal exam to allow students to sit for step1 with premeds all the time who don't realize that is how the statistics are skewed

@kenziemayrae3568 2 жыл бұрын

Wow this was really helpful. I'm organizing a pre-med club meeting about Caribbean Med. schools and this was a great resource. Thank you!

@TejasM14 4 жыл бұрын

Phew a person of integrity! Solid.

@Qwabyna 4 жыл бұрын

This life is not about the school, is what you use your education for and how smart you are. You can go to a Carribean school and be a great doctor same as someone will attend a US school and fail badly. In life just focus focus focus and bring the best out of you. All schools are profit making entity

@TheEpiphany101 4 жыл бұрын

Dr. Kevin coming with the facts, per usual.

@heathertoomey7068 2 жыл бұрын

My conclusion: Caribbean is LAST RESORT

@shriszz 3 жыл бұрын

He’s videos are literally my adviser rn❤️

@savvydocfinancialplanners Жыл бұрын

Brutally honest advice. This is crucial information for premeds. Outstanding video.

@Rpere387 3 жыл бұрын

Here in south Florida a lot of our doctors come from overseas medical schools. Some from the Caribbean and others from schools in their home countries of Venezuela, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Colombia etc.

@yaseenme_ 4 жыл бұрын

you keep it real bro.. great vid im def subscribing

@-H30 4 жыл бұрын

Ty Dr. J for taking the time to do research on Caribbean medical schools and make a video that is very informational. This video helped me strive to apply and hopefully attend a U.S MD or DO medical school. Thanks for all you do!

@User1Mac 4 жыл бұрын

You nailed it! I’ve been waiting for someone to tel the truth. People have to hear this before going

@TerenceThomas 4 жыл бұрын

When I saw the day in the life, I was wondering if you had actually gone down there for yourself. Crazy to hear all the tricks being played. I appreciate your honest reviews🙌🙌

@angisonfire5464 4 жыл бұрын

you always hear "dont go to the carrib" but damn this was THOROUGH lol now i know actual reasons not to go there

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

I went to SGU for 6 months and it was a total joke stay away please

@ninachan3067 3 жыл бұрын

@@georgelampros4593 could u tell me what happen?

@georgelampros4593 3 жыл бұрын

@@ninachan3067 in a personal chat yes

@nadiaalli 2 жыл бұрын

@@georgelampros4593 can you please elaborate ...?

@MA-tl2ht 2 жыл бұрын

@@georgelampros4593 same here and seriously it was a complete joke.. saved my soul

@dannyzamir7675 4 жыл бұрын

Refreshing to see your blunt honesty... it’s sad to hear about the vibes that you felt there. I feel like that has a lot to do with students failing...

@korylove7293 3 жыл бұрын

As a Caribbean person you have to think about this, Caribbean Schools are more cost efficient for Caribbean students especially since attending us schools cost us over 100k a year. St. Georges accept so much students because we have no where to go really to get such good education. Also Caribbean students are 3rd world and we don't have much universities so obviously we go to the best we have and, that school accepts us generously because they probably understand. I'm currently in lower 6 and after doing so much research I realize how much international schools cost and St. George's seems to be my n best option

@sunflowers_n_coffee 4 жыл бұрын

I like this your voice, very calming!

@user-wn6np1yt2l Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this!

@JayJay-xc4xl 4 жыл бұрын

I wish there were channels like this for Dental School. I’m just watching these things as pre-dental student. Anyways, very interesting videos

@bluesmon54321 4 жыл бұрын

I graduated from St. George's and was chief resident in my program. They said we'd never be chief resident or Chairman of the Department but, guess what? Many SGUSOM's ARE Chair of their departments. Here's what I don't get. Except for the University of Illinois grads there are more physicians practicing in the US who are grads from St. George's than from any other med school - American or foreign. And if the trend continues St.George's will soon be number one because for the past few years more first year residency slots were filled by St.George's grads than any other med school. So, if more physicians are being pumped into the system by St.George's than any of the American schools it begs the question: why haven't the American med schools expanded their class size to fill a greater number of available residency slots? It's a curious situation.

@J-jizzy_ 4 жыл бұрын

Here in canada the government heavily subsidizes the actual cost of med school so the class sizes can’t be bigger because the gov is only willing to put in so much money. ALSO the high competitiveness ensures that those who get into med school will be able to handle the rigours of the 4 year program. I assume America is the same. One more thing: in regards to there being more physicians from SGU practicing than most other US schools (I’ll assume it’s accurate for the sake of argument), you have to take into account that there is over far more people graduating from SGU than any other university-therefore there should be a discrepancy there... however, you need to take into account the nuance of the situation, such as the failure rate of matching (which is quite high), what they are practicing etc etc.

@Mr-E. 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Edward, do you see any issues going forward now that the DO MD fusion occurred? Basically, DO students taking the spots from Caribbean students? Also the new pass/fail system for Step 1.

@jdbricksquad1017 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I was about to apply to SGU but I'm going to work hard and get into a Canadian med school

@tsastsastss 4 жыл бұрын

Good shit. Tell it like it is. We appreciate you!

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

yea these schools suck and are probably gonna get worse since STEP 1 is pass/fail...

@ScarfLess117 4 жыл бұрын

Why would anyone expect a med school that is outside the US to have close to the same match rates as an american school? The US is going to favor or match more students from within their own country than outside. Also, any student that travels to another country and culture shock is causing them to drop out, then i don't think they knew what they were getting into and they small minded. How can you expect to leave a country as big as the US and expect a tiny island to come close to their lives back home? Why don't the US schools increase their class size?

@sonnyreel289 7 күн бұрын

My daughter graduated from SGU and is now in residency. SGU has a campus in Grenada and England. Their home office is in New York, where all graduations are held. They are the only Caribbean school that is accredited with the US.

@farazr2 4 жыл бұрын

One thing I never see mentioned is that just because the school you go to doesn't provide for you, or is bad value, doesn't mean that GRADUATES from that school are subpar. If someone goes to Caribbean, makes it through the shitty environment and attrition, rocks STEP, rotations, and matches, they should be seen as equals to US counterparts. Even in /r/medicalschool, there was a post recently about "what do we owe IMG competitiveness" where people shit on those whose only options are international. I also think AUC is better than Ross and SGU for having smaller class sizes and mitigating a lot of the downsides you've listed here. They have student-performed cadaver labs with 7-8 students dissecting at once not prosections, and ready access to mental health on a moment's notice.

@christinekwon1858 3 жыл бұрын

THIS!!! As a non US Citizen, a carribean school is my only option to practice medicine in the US. But I am scared that once I do start practicing, I will be judged as a carribean medical student and looked down on. I wish there would be some positivity about carribean medical schools or at least respect for those who survived to the end so that there isnt this awful prejudice against them.

@thomasb5828 4 жыл бұрын

Loved the video! Would you make a video on masters programs (or SMP) designed to help prospective medical school student who might have a low gpa or another deficiency in their candidacy.

@skiw168 4 жыл бұрын

im from SGU and in residency now :) . There are so many truths in this video. It was definitely lots of hard work in order to get into the residency program of my dream. Nothing is handed to you for free. I did feel that I have to study so much harder compared to many US medical students, mainly because I had to compete with them for good residency spots. In the end, the pro is a sturdy knowledge foundation, but cons is the stress of catching up everyday, and anxiety of being kicked out. However, one thing i would disagree with the video is about the student life. I met some of my closest friends in SGU, and they were the main reason of how I stayed sane and got my support. I do agree with ur observation, I did lose a few friends during my studies there. It was painful to know someone close has been kicked out because they didn't pass a class. Adding to choosing a caribbean medical school, make sure the place you are applying is accredited in EVERY STATE. Not all of them are accredited equally. Also, consider how many hospital affiliations they have. This will become very important in your clinical years when deciding where you might match at. For the ppl already in Caribbean schools: Work hard, stay disciplined and persevere! Don't ever give up.

@hangettingstronger 3 жыл бұрын

How do you check if the uni is accredited in every state?

@cs3518 4 жыл бұрын

you just saved this premed, thank you kevin

@TheOnlyTinMS3 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! It is a fact that students are too afraid to speak up about the negatives because they are still in the program and who knows what will hapen.

@rantianifowose4683 4 жыл бұрын

I am in sgu so accurate

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

sounds awful

@Hepacivirus 3 жыл бұрын

Is it that bad, I was thinking of applying over there

@cristenflewellen1692 2 жыл бұрын

Good Day, Dr. Jubbal. We would enjoy hearing your perspective on HBCU medical schools!

@NeuroNate24 4 жыл бұрын

Finally an honest review of a Caribbean med school based on someone's actual experience of it! I love the transparency and the no bullshit honest facts about the program. This is exactly why I'd never lower my standards and apply here even if it was my only option. Thank you very much for making this Kevin!

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

don't go to a Caribbean school man good thinking

@furhany1159 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Dr. Jubbal, just wanted to say I have been watching your content since I was a pre-med and it has greatly helped me in the application process. I love how you always back your statements up with SOLID data and facts and not just anecdotal evidence. The information you have shared has allowed me to be admitted to a DO school and also land 2 US MD waitlists. Fingers crossed I get off one of those, but I would be happy attending either school as I will be a practicing physician one day. Keep up the good work, we need more content like this on youtube to help pre-meds who did not have the best academic advisors in college. Thanks for all that you do!

@shashi3719 4 жыл бұрын

Hi... I'm a srilankan ... your videos make so inspiration .... I still watching your vedios ... So amazing and thank you alot

@nadiaalli 2 жыл бұрын

Whilst US med schools is hands-down the best, advising the public to only focus on that specific prize is not the best thing to do because the simple fact remains that the number of applicants exceeds the amount of medical schools and their accommodation capacities by incredibly far for US medical schools. This therefore means that it is next to impossible for all applicants to secure a seat in a US medical school unless they're willing to wait for years and continuously repeat the same process, cycles after cycles to get an acceptance letter. Not everyone may get into a US med school but we must also recognize that there are successful doctors in the US with caribbean roots. It's about the work, luck doesn't exist.

@albert7830 4 жыл бұрын

US medical student here. My school is Alonso prosection. Can’t say that this will affect me in the future but so far I feel like I know my anatomy pretty well

@Sam-qe5cn 4 жыл бұрын

The type of content YT needs!!!

@TheAlextv100 2 ай бұрын

Hey Dr. J, great video! Personally, I have had quite the opposite experience as a medical student at AUC. Our class size is 150 students, anatomy labs allow us to do full dissections with lesson plans on brand new cadavers, mental health services are extremely easy to schedule and are prioritized weekly, and the culture on our island is incredibly friendly and positive! I know I am only one opinion on the matter, but I have truly had a great experience at this school. Would love to see a video of you out here in Sint Maarten!

@1a_jaromay271 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Dr kevin i am your # 1 fan in the Philippines

@etherealbae2160 4 жыл бұрын

Lol their plan to invite and persuade you backfired. I'm glad your opinions couldn't be bought.

@dianavillavicencio5865 4 жыл бұрын

I consider myself as a great student who wanted to start medical school young and didn't have time or money to take the MCAT 3 times, let alone do 3 useless masters. I go to AUC in St. Maarten and I love my school and the opportunity it gave me to become an MD, my lifelong dream. My class is not of 1000 students, and several other weird things you mentioned also didn't apply here. It does require a lot of hard-work like all medical schools and your performance is on you! If you study hard, you will stay and become a doctor. And please reconsider recommending students to try DO because they didn't get into MD. Students who chose to become DOs should have as motive the love and interest for Osteopathic Medicine. I really think theres a lot of people obsessed with the Caribbean issue, I swear we don't even talk about US MD, DOs who wanted to be MDs or blah blah... We just live to study and go to the beach a few hours after block exams. Also, remember we all take the same board exams and we all study with the same resources. And remember that all of our clinical rotations are done in United States, in cities that many "US school" would love to see might I add. Advice to pre-meds; when looking for med school options, look for students who have had the experience at different places, and get the info from successful people who have actually done well in their respective programs. There isn't a perfect path for everyone either. Medicine is hard everywhere folks, but it is the best! Good luck.

@kevinjubbalmd 4 жыл бұрын

Shouldn’t take 3 MCATs or 3 masters to get into a US MD or DO school

@finerton 3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOUUUUUUUUU!!!!! You just preached nothing but a word!!!

@xniks101x 2 жыл бұрын

What a long way to say “I chose to slash my U.S. match rate chances in half because I didn’t want to retake mcat nor pad my gpa with an smp”

@MohamedAhmed-wc3pw 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing these out! Really mind boggling about how they try to lie about these facts

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

they have every incentive to lie

@xStephMarie 4 жыл бұрын

You should try to see if you can do this assessment in Mexico. The environment that you were describing... I feel it.

@MetallicaGNR247 3 жыл бұрын

I personally don’t think it’s fair to include prosection based anatomy as a negative. While I’ve had both and do prefer dissection based, a lot of U.S. schools are doing it too given the high time demands of med students currently. Very well researched and explained on everything else! I appreciate your hard truth demeanor about it because that’s what students need to hear!

@lulunemonexe6051 4 жыл бұрын

This really opened my eyes I was really considering Caribbean med school after my gap year

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

Do not go I went there and it was awful seems to be gettin worse

@jackie5164 4 жыл бұрын

@@georgelampros4593 I second it. Don't chance it.

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

@@jackie5164 did u go to SGU?

@neji9012 4 жыл бұрын

@@georgelampros4593 did you fail out and become a nurse?

@georgelampros4593 4 жыл бұрын

@@neji9012 did not fail out by any means in term 2 I was like lectures are so bad, no help, no nothing, so I left lol

@WillJ99999 4 жыл бұрын

poor caribbean med students seeing this, it must really have crushed their hope....i'll say this though, whether a person succeed or not, it really depends on their mentality. If you know youre being underestimated, know that your opportunity is lower than other people, do try hard and do your best, dont just aim for "bare minimum", aim HIGH, higher than all the US average student, in fact, aim 250+ in the USMLE and dont listen to anyone, not even this dr on youtube (his advice is not for you anyway). Youre there now and your goal is to be a doctor, giving up now won't make you become one, the only down part is you just have to try harder than other US med students. But i assure you when the day come when you finally got a match to the program you wanted, u'll feel way more rewarded than any other average US med students can ever feel. In fact more impressive and honorable if you ask me, for someone who majority of the people keep doubting they'll ever b in the same level as the US students.

@adakuudoyeh6960 4 жыл бұрын

I think I'm going to frame this ❤😢

@jovansiacsmatthew 4 жыл бұрын

Born and raised in the Carribean...Thank you saying this. It really means a lot. After watching this video, I felt so discourage.

@moyes2584 3 жыл бұрын

The best comment ever. God bless you

@angiecortes1 4 жыл бұрын

Hmm...My brother is a third term student at SGU and absolutely loves it. You should contact students and graduates of sgu to make a decision vs this vlog. :)

@dm_1236 4 жыл бұрын

No looking at the objective facts and stats instead of anecdotes is what premeds should use to make a decision.

@HasanKhan-fc8fd 4 жыл бұрын

What are your opinions on the best med school to go to abroad if 1) You want to practice or get a residency spot in the US and 2) If you have exhausted your options within the US. I do see the points that you make, but there are many many grads that do come back to the US/Canada after going to SGU or Ross and have practices that are just as good.

@gdaymates431 2 жыл бұрын

I think a good idea might be to follow up with the two lovely people you followed for a day. Maybe in a year and see what their thoughts are and how their journey is going. After a few years removed from school, they might have more to say.