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Nico Prien

Nico Prien

2 жыл бұрын

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@MARG2327PA
@MARG2327PA 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing that everyone needs to know about gybing is that it is not a relaxed transition. You need to be committed, concentrating and fully body powered. When you are free riding with feet into footstraps and harness it’s very comfortable and relaxed. But gybing is a fully athletic transition . Don’t be realaxed . Focus and spend energy through the transition in order to get out of the gybe fully planning
@norfix_
@norfix_ 2 жыл бұрын
Since Lars jibes very similarly to mee this video helped me so much thanks nico.
@ScrattleGG
@ScrattleGG 2 жыл бұрын
I don't fail my jibes. I just practice my water starts accidentally
@lisadean538
@lisadean538 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nico, your videos are so helpful. Ive been sailing for 3 decades, with breaks for having children, and at 61 I'm still chasing the planning carve jibe. All your suggestions have helped me immensely and I'm getting there. We're heading into winter in Australia but I'll be out there practising your moves every chance i get. Keep the videos coming I'm a huge fan! 😊
@surfsportroyal
@surfsportroyal 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many things to take care about in a short term and no jibe is similar to each other because of gusts, chop and so on. Some windsurfer can jump a frontloop before they can do a proper power jibe. Greetings from Germany
@barney3444
@barney3444 2 жыл бұрын
That duck jibe blew me away! 11/10
@sharewavestv
@sharewavestv 2 жыл бұрын
That was a master duck jibe! Like a boss
@Reise_Flo
@Reise_Flo Жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@kev-the-windsurfer.
@kev-the-windsurfer. 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest Lars swap his grip from under hand to over hand before the Jibe, I sail with under hand grip on the front hand, and had to get into the habit of swapping my hand over before I jibe, but I see you caught that. The nice thing is gabbing the boom underhand, and you're already set!! I enjoy this type of video with looking at jib analysis, its a very complex move, it takes a very long time to get it right, I am still progressing to be as good as I can possibly be, I am planing most of the toime out of my jibes and feeling comfortable. But it has taken a lot of very hard work!! Perhaps a good subject to discuss might be the difference between jibing a Slalom Free/Race type board and a Free Wave type board. (iSonic or Futura versus a Kode or Ultra Kode?) I have two Kodes and one Futura, they do jibe differently, I wonder if you have something you can tell us about the difference between jibing the two different type of boards? Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience!! Greetings from New Zealand.
@JaviHP-de3be
@JaviHP-de3be 2 жыл бұрын
Nico, can you do a video like this one about foiling jibes?
@windsurfer3329
@windsurfer3329 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Nico :-)) I'll tell you what: I have been windsurfing for decades. For a long time I really had problems during the transition phase of the jibe when you are flipping the sail. My board slowed down, I was able to flip the sail but then I found myself in an awkward position in the new tack because the board went too much upwind, slowed down considerably, and most times I found myself in the water. It was no good! Then I found the trick! You have to "really" lean forward when you get into the turn and be "assertive" about it. People get scared of leaning forward because they think that something bad is gonna happen with all that speed, they lean backwards, the board slows down to standstill, and they fall into the water. You've got to do just the opposite: leaning forward aggressively saves you from going into the water :-) The second thing is to flip the sail as you are carving. If you flip the sail after the board turns, it will just take too much time to grab the other side of the boom, and again you find yourself in an awkward situation because the board loses all its momentum (you are not planing), and sinks, and again you find yourself in the water. Great video though.
@robemery11
@robemery11 2 жыл бұрын
Lars is a good mate and your critique will help a lot of people with their jibing. I was happy when he moved his front hand forward before flipping, but sadly that was after he went underhand.
@stevesummerfield1731
@stevesummerfield1731 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Nico.
@leamyoi
@leamyoi 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very profound weedio on jibing . The toe/hill switch advise is the last piece of the puzzle for me .. cant wait to get on the water to try it out
@guidolaroque9280
@guidolaroque9280 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nico. Improving takes a lot of thinking and mind preparation. Good detail spoting is essential. I have improved a lot in the previous years thanks for foiling, wich is 95% of my riding now. But I think many should give it a try. Foil is more demanding but overall easier : you sail smaller, no chops (dreamy smooth ride), you glide longer depowered, so you have way more time to concentrate on your movement, 10 times more opportunity to train as you can fly as soon as you have over 12kt (with a wave sail). And if you don't make it correctly it simply doesn't work whereas you can do it incorrectly for years with a fin and still manage to avoid swimming. And this leads to carve incorrect technique in your musle memory. Just don't think foiling as an extention of slalom. Keep on riding.
@BillBradstreet
@BillBradstreet 2 жыл бұрын
The most useful advice I've given myself... never wait until the edge of the strong wind to practice jibing. Initiate the jibe well within the wind zone. I tend to wait until I'm at the edge of the lake where the winds are gustier and end up losing wind as I throw a jibe. I'm going to have to get some footage to you! Your videos are awesome!
@corrdude
@corrdude 2 жыл бұрын
Picking out Lars' windward rail dig is excellent.
@survived21
@survived21 2 жыл бұрын
Good job nico. I think that one of the biggest problems is that after the apex the surfer wants to take the same angle again and thus always falls out of planing.
@ketang5438
@ketang5438 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, glad to see such an explanation, know that in China the technical explanation video about windsurfing is almost blank, only a very small number of amateurs translate your video and other windsurfing videos on youtube , bring us some materials that can be learned, thank you very much Nico ! Thank you from the distant Chinese fans!
@IanCocking
@IanCocking Жыл бұрын
As well as over hand grip for the gybe/Jibe, Lars also needs to slide his front hand down towards the mast just prior to the rig flip. But always fun to watch and breakdown others technique
@knmatt_7578
@knmatt_7578 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder it if there would be windfoiling gybes tutorial
@Kostis_playsDrums
@Kostis_playsDrums 2 жыл бұрын
This is gold! Thanks for all these videos Nico! Very helpful indeed!
@westwindsailer
@westwindsailer 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I was there sailing! springs a month late here in Canada , ice on water still...ughhhh. Your right, set up is massive important. I tell gybe learners to make sure they have enough wind and practice fast carves on the flat water.
@notyouraveragewindsurfer
@notyouraveragewindsurfer 2 жыл бұрын
send it!!!! so cool to see this footage and everyone that windsurfs knows the struggle!
@horsemadf1
@horsemadf1 2 жыл бұрын
As I said I have problems with my gybes but one thing I noticed with Lars was he wasn't sliding his front arm up to the mast pre flip.. he got better at the end which helped..If you don't do that the rig is too far away from you when you try and get it on the other side..he's going well though..I doubt I'd be able to try as many and take the stacks..lol's
@gatesurfer
@gatesurfer 2 жыл бұрын
He’s not sheeting enough and not bending his knees enough. It’s almost better to sail in overpowered conditions to learn this. What happens in that situation is that the moment you unhook, you have to get real low, into almost a sitting position with your knees very bent, to stay sheeted in. That’s where the term “hanging from the boom” comes from. You take your back foot out of the strap, still saying in that low position, and then, rather than actively trying to turn the board, just let the sail pull you upright so that your head is above or slightly ahead of your knees. But keep in that sheeted in position with your back arm. You want to go from that low, seated position into what I consider to be a typical, athletic stance - leaning slightly forward, but with the head and shoulders up, knees slightly bent to be absorbing bumps. You see similar a similar position in almost all sports - tennis’ ready position, skiing, basketball, a goalie in soccer awaiting a free kick. It’s balanced and strong, and you can make adjustments very easily from it. If you let the sail pull you into that position with the sail sheeted in, the board will begin to turn, simply because the sail’s Center of effort will be pulling you into an arc. From there you can make a slight adjustment with your feet, lifting your front foot or pointing your back foot, to shape your carve. But he’s so upright that every bump gets transferred to his upper body, and so of course he’s going to be off balance. And if you let the sail sheet out when you unhook or take your back foot out of the strap, the board is going to straighten out and you’ll have to try to force it through the arc, which is difficult to do. He should switch his front hand to an overhand grip just before the jibe, you are correct, but he should go for an underhand on the new tack, because he can reach further down the boom on the new tack.
@Sequoiaandpines
@Sequoiaandpines 2 жыл бұрын
great vídeo!! pls do more like this one😊
@aeroegnr
@aeroegnr 2 жыл бұрын
Nico, thank you for putting these out! You just waited until all our wind went away :D
@elliottaylor8344
@elliottaylor8344 2 жыл бұрын
Lars is using a underhand grip to gybe looks awkward and overhand puts more mast foot pressure on the board ?
@foobar1013
@foobar1013 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing another one of these review episodes, always supet interesting
@barney3444
@barney3444 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly timed video, just yesterday I was practising and felt like I could really do with another of your tips videos. Thanks a lot
@maciejg.8653
@maciejg.8653 2 жыл бұрын
great video Nico! thank you for leading the "mentoring sessions" with Lars and others - this makes you a true WS leader that ppl want to follow! Cheers!
@postiebren
@postiebren 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nico and Lars! Many great tips to try out here :-)
@thomasfolan2716
@thomasfolan2716 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nico, and Lars. Very helpful
@LarsWcmn
@LarsWcmn 2 жыл бұрын
;)
@simonjandrell5897
@simonjandrell5897 2 жыл бұрын
i am gonna have to have a go at a dodgy jibe this Summer
@apaskalss5159
@apaskalss5159 2 жыл бұрын
just before switching the sail, move the front hand near the mast. this will help to flip the sail
@RaisingGambler
@RaisingGambler 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video with specific advice! Regarding Lars: he's not keeping enough pressure on the mast base after un-hooking, is he? Good training exercise: take a wide grip (back hand far back - more than you think 😉), then un-hook and learn to keep the speed and pressure in a straight line first. Helped me a lot! 🤙
@atonenjr
@atonenjr 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly as you say Julian. In the last sequence Lars managed to keep speed after unhooking, which made the biggest difference IMHO. Even more respect to Lars for being a windsurfer.
@RaisingGambler
@RaisingGambler 2 жыл бұрын
@@atonenjr I just hope that someday I can jibe nearly as well as I analyze others people's mistakes 😄
@dairyairman
@dairyairman 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that in some of Lars' jibes he was unhooking and then taking his back foot out the strap almost at the same time. I usually unhook first, then reposition my back foot three or four seconds later. I think doing both things at nearly the same time could contribute to some of the bouncing he was doing.
@steffenernst3234
@steffenernst3234 2 жыл бұрын
Great comments & cool that you engage Lars in this too. He made good improvements. Well done Lars! But I crack up about his wetsuit Steamer outfit with gloves 😂😂
@coolfox999
@coolfox999 2 жыл бұрын
Great series thanks
@martijnwindsurfing
@martijnwindsurfing 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Nico, I will keep trying my jibes with your tips!
@sharewavestv
@sharewavestv 2 жыл бұрын
The complicity of a normal jibe is one of the biggest reason why many windsurfers quit the sport and they move to kitesurfing 😔
@MARG2327PA
@MARG2327PA 2 жыл бұрын
Try tacking on a 80lt board . You will find jibing so easy then 😄😄
@antoinedechillaz8000
@antoinedechillaz8000 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video thank you for the tips!! Can't wait to jibe
@marctenhove874
@marctenhove874 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for this informative video! Tried some of the tips yesterday on a perfect day and almost half of my jibes were planing jibes 😎
@caetzar
@caetzar 2 жыл бұрын
I really found the part at the end about how your weight is distributed in your feet useful. Also I'll try it sheeting the back hand in as well. 😀
@alexvantee6938
@alexvantee6938 2 жыл бұрын
That is some good improvement Lars!!! Too bad you didn't have any wind in makkum last weekend to practice in the perfect spot for that! 🤙
@rymszak9633
@rymszak9633 2 жыл бұрын
very helpful episode 🌊
@cobbiepalm6790
@cobbiepalm6790 2 жыл бұрын
Thank for the hand tip and toes to heels tip! There is some debate about rig care between salt water and fresh. Can you talk about packing up rig and care. Roll up wet? Rinse? These are important concerns as equipment costs are so high. Thanks!
@mis100tubos
@mis100tubos 2 жыл бұрын
Good job! Much better 👍😜I’m learning a lot (and English language too😅)…I can’t wait to be on the water 🤟💪💪💪
@1212354a
@1212354a Жыл бұрын
Hallo Niko! My windsurfing jibes are much like Lars; I lean back too much and the sail flip troubles me. I generally finish the jibe, and most of the time I stay dry. On the foil, the movements are much less, as I often loose the carve and turn the other way if my feet aren’t right. I hope to improve my foil jibes, but I think I should windsurf more to practice the jibe.
@lucahoffmann4508
@lucahoffmann4508 2 жыл бұрын
Sehr nice, danke für die Tipps!
@ernstmeindersma7037
@ernstmeindersma7037 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@paulsp2k
@paulsp2k 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Lars' jibes look very similar to mine especially when I'm getting tired, and I finish the jibe reaching for the boom and stalling the board in the process. I have listened to you Nico, and others and tried to keep the front arm extended, and my body close to the sail, but this more often that not sees me hooking back into the harness just before flipping the sail with the obvious result being I get dragged into the sail as I'm hooked in. Super frustrating, and unfortunately has reinforced the idea that I need to keep myself further from the sail, and hence the reaching for the sail, and/or leaning back - all fatal flaws
@antoinerichard9192
@antoinerichard9192 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate to your situation and I think I could have written this comment. I find these video and comment sooo useful and relevant to me. I can see myself on all Lars' jibe footage.
@RaisingGambler
@RaisingGambler 2 жыл бұрын
But you can't hook in if you bend your knees sufficiently 😉 "Drive" forward with your knees and stay below the boom
@markbrady5594
@markbrady5594 2 жыл бұрын
A question Nico, I wonder what the main benefit of laying down the sail in a jibe is , beyond looking great 😊 so basicslly curious about the technical aspects, e.g., is it to depower or a way of keeping power or turning faster, etc. I really have no idea 🤷‍♂️ cheers ☺️
@avivbgaming
@avivbgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Laying down the sail usually comes from a point of depowering the sail while keeping the speed, usually when going extremely fast or having a big sail that would just rip out of your arms at the rig flip
@atonenjr
@atonenjr 2 жыл бұрын
If you do not close (lay down) the sail in jibe it remains powered up. If it is powered up you have to move back on the board to hold it. If you move back on a board during the jibe you will sink the tail. If you sink the tail you will stop. Back to step one, lay down the sail, depower it, move your weight more forward on the board, engage the whole rail of the board for smoother turn.
@renzondaziano4880
@renzondaziano4880 2 жыл бұрын
great video!!!
@OlliGarchow
@OlliGarchow 2 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für die guten Tipps. Manche Fehler, wie der Untergriff von Lars, müssen sich doch komisch anfühlen? Ich wechsle unterbewusst beim Einleiten von Unter- zum Obergriff und rutsche mehr zum Mast. Das fühlt sich dann einfach natürlich an und bringt wohl auch etwas mehr Sicherheit. Viele kleine Puzzleteile, die zusammen eine ideale Powerhalse ergeben. PS: geile Duck Jibe 👍🏼
@niclaskarlin
@niclaskarlin 2 жыл бұрын
15:40 I was just going to write that! :-)
@aus140
@aus140 2 жыл бұрын
Lars needs to raise the boom another 5cm. For mast foot pressure, pulling-down is easier than pushing-down.
@SuperFlo8888
@SuperFlo8888 2 жыл бұрын
Different conditions different jibing!
@HassanSahin
@HassanSahin 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you have been at Selenter See with Lars? Nice Spot, im gonna try that one soon!
@davidGrainger
@davidGrainger 2 жыл бұрын
He's sheeting out as he's setting up for the jibe. Needs to sheet in. Counterintuitive for sure because the way to depower when sailing upwind or on a reach is to sheet out (open the sail), but the way to depower when sailing downwind is to sheet in (close the sail). Instead of spilling wind off the leach, you spill wind off the luff. 8:45 not 9:34. Forget about jibing for a while. He should practice sailing downwind and depowering by closing the sail. Until he can do that he won't be able to learn the rest of the motions to complete a jibe.
@pawel7318
@pawel7318 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Nico ! That's kind of funny that your quality of operating camera is the same as Lars' first jibes - maybe he can payback to you with some training on that field 😉
@LarsWcmn
@LarsWcmn 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@fredericklane745
@fredericklane745 Жыл бұрын
I’m commiting to Windsurf this year by investing in a board and sail for me, my girlfriend and daughter. I now have a Future Fly 135 and a couple of Challenger sails. My location is Brouwersdam and Bruinisse/Herkingen, The Netherlands. Just getting into a harness and build confidence in planing. Next stop, beach start and then these jibes?
@marcpollrich8440
@marcpollrich8440 2 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for this vid. mai in almanarre i will improve my gibes.
@roj0088
@roj0088 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review or tell us what you think of the "shox mast extension" system?
@MrSimonetbenoit
@MrSimonetbenoit 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico, appreciate your helpful vid, as I'm after perfecting jybes as well. I left south pacific, where I've reached a reasonable level. Now based in Belgium, I saw you are running a shop in Netherlands and I'm looking forward to visit you there. Do you give lessons nearby? Is there opportunities on testing gear and also need good advice and tips on sailing under cold weather as I'm used to 30° tropical waters for comfort and security. Talk hopefully soon. Cheers
@wingo.jimbo84
@wingo.jimbo84 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video nice cut! Pls Lars buy a bedder wetsuit :)
@horsemadf1
@horsemadf1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm struggling to overcome 20 years of bad habits. I bend the front arm as I enter and pull back and open the sail. I can get away with the bent arm and do planing gybes in flatwater but it comes undone powered in chop. Any tips for relaxing the front arm and letting the rig go into the tunr?
@problemsolving1695
@problemsolving1695 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, give Lars a wetsuit!
@flummyproduction2145
@flummyproduction2145 2 жыл бұрын
what about doing a jibe while let the sail shift at its own? I tried the jibe last week during my holiday in denmark (using freewave + wavesail). My brother was watching me and told me afterwards to shift the sail earlier. So i tried to focus on shifting earlier and let the sail shift at its own. Is it a way to do it that way or should I still focus on shifting powerfull and press it into the wind like you said? I dont have any problems with speed and carving, but still with shifting and leaving the turn in downwind. Cheers
@philippefourcade1156
@philippefourcade1156 2 жыл бұрын
Salut Nico As tu une solution pour avoir un sous titrage pour tes vidéos. Merci
@VicenteM
@VicenteM 2 жыл бұрын
kneel down a little bit helps to keep balance.
@aw244
@aw244 2 жыл бұрын
I think Lars needs to improve in straight line planing at the first place to carry the necessary speed. Or am I wrong?
@Nico_GER7
@Nico_GER7 2 жыл бұрын
I think when he commits he has enough speed. In complete flatwater it could work I think. But generally he can improve speed, yes :-)
@eastcoastsailingcenter7768
@eastcoastsailingcenter7768 Жыл бұрын
No foil at OBX?
@ingotaraske6996
@ingotaraske6996 2 жыл бұрын
Lars also has a big disadvantage due to his gear, comparing to Lukas for example. He’s already fully out of control, fighting the conditions, before even approaching the jibe. With a wide Slalom board, a decent carbon boom, new sail and 90% mast I bet his entire session would be more relaxed.
@LarsWcmn
@LarsWcmn 2 жыл бұрын
yea but that is expensive ;)
@iotarask77
@iotarask77 2 жыл бұрын
@@LarsWcmn I've been there too, as a young professional with a low budget, during or after the studies. All material bought based on what had the highest discount could be or obtained used, 30% mast, Alloy Boom, Freeride Sail, wrong board (I was lucky my father jumped in once to buy a board for Fuerte conditions, but found myself trying it at Lake Garda to no success, and Strand Horst, then finally bought a Futura Wood which I still have to this day, best investment ever). 50-100 catapults later I was planing sometimes, but control was never great, in particular when conditions were not perfect (too much wind, chop, too few wind, gusty etc.). Eventually replaced all that stuff with 70-80% masts and decent Freerace or Slalom Sails (and thinking if that was a mistake too, and I should have bought 100% right away).You should consider taking a loan and buy good Slalom material once, even if it hurts :) Or charge Nico higher rates ;)
@stefanobalistreri8349
@stefanobalistreri8349 2 жыл бұрын
Lars is beginning the jibe with all his weight on the left foot, causing the board to be instable creating friction and small jumps on the small chops. Then he can't release the left hand in time because he is already too slow. Personally I switch the feet immediately after I get the boom on new side with both hands, if you mantain enough speed the sail will rotate very easily.
@kapamk
@kapamk 2 жыл бұрын
Lars macht immer die gleiche Fehler - Lars vergisst beim Switch fordere Hand zum Mast zu schieben, er hat immer 30 cm. Abstand zwischen sein vorderen Hand und dem Mast . Diese Fehle mach ich auch))
@Nico_GER7
@Nico_GER7 2 жыл бұрын
Nein, stimmt nicht. Am Ende bringt er die Hand ganz an den Mast rein.
@kapamk
@kapamk 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nico_GER7 "Am Ende" hat er doch geschafft ))
@professionalfreerider9133
@professionalfreerider9133 2 жыл бұрын
The camera skills of Lars are much better than his jibing ;-) But a lot of space to improve
@chrisisinthehouse1
@chrisisinthehouse1 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Lars! Learned a few things watching this 🏄 PS: What kind of gloves are those? Do you like them?
@LarsWcmn
@LarsWcmn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks ;) that were some of nicos actually dont know what kind of gloves that were
@berndsieveking212
@berndsieveking212 2 жыл бұрын
Okay toll gemacht,aber in meinem Alter muss ich mein Englisch mal wieder ein bisschen verbessern😬 Trotzdem: weitere so. Bis ich auch endlich die perfekten Powerhalsen fahre
@DexIndustries
@DexIndustries 7 ай бұрын
You didn't say anything about switching the hands, but he did do it in the last session...
@peterplanlos7761
@peterplanlos7761 2 жыл бұрын
Echt cool, wenn man sich gegenseitig helfen kann
@jonmullet5739
@jonmullet5739 2 жыл бұрын
It is so helpful to see Lars and hear Nico's coaching. As the only windsurfer within a 700km radius of myself, these videos are golden. How heavy is Lars? I am 193cm and 105kg, and it is good to other tall people windsurfing as I often wonder how much difference that makes. Very encouraging, thanks for making these videos. Now all I have to do is wait for the ice to melt off of the lake....
@mis100tubos
@mis100tubos 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to get the perfect jibe to then try windsurfing with the foil: Oh My God 😳😱😰😅 The catapults are waiting for me!?!
@greysmile1
@greysmile1 2 жыл бұрын
Moin
@Fenris1on1
@Fenris1on1 2 жыл бұрын
Ask Robby or Björn how to do it 😎
@michaelcarlsson5246
@michaelcarlsson5246 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should give Lars a better wet suit so that he does not have to freeze after every waterfall he makes.😜😜😃👋👋 After all, he is the one who makes the films.
@Nico_GER7
@Nico_GER7 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, he just started, I know him since not very long. Don't worry we'll take care of it :-)
@anfauglir56
@anfauglir56 2 жыл бұрын
Lars should avoid looking at his feet but more the trajectory of the jibe.
@luigilasagne5067
@luigilasagne5067 2 жыл бұрын
My Jibes are far from perfect so I'd better not comment on Lars Jibes- but I still do ;-) It would be easier if he'd take a smaller sail without cambers to learn.
@LarsWcmn
@LarsWcmn 2 жыл бұрын
it is without camber;)
@luigilasagne5067
@luigilasagne5067 2 жыл бұрын
@@LarsWcmn Oh sorry, I didn't see this. But he still looks overpowered. If you have trouble to control the board going straight, jibing ain't easy.
@testdriver8475
@testdriver8475 2 жыл бұрын
looks like Lars Board isnt that Great to jybe. I also had some boards that did not like to jibe. Björn Dunkerbecks Race Jibes are still "Überirdisch".
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