It's something we work very hard to strive for. We work with our hard drive partners extensively to test drives and bring that communications out to our site. Unfortunately we cannot control what drives the reviewer requests so when an issue is indeed found, we work around the clock to fix it. A fix for Seagate's Ironwolf drives should be coming soon.

build your own nas is really the only thing to do, if you have the ability

a single 960 optane is ~1/2 the cost of this asustor nas. their latency and endurance is of course legendary, but maybe too expensive for this case, provided that you can find them.

@@giornikitop5373 In the second section i go over why most people should buy the worse value 118GB drive because it is M.2 instead of U.2, and why it wouldnt work in this NAS. I was giving the use case i have for Optane and if you can install it, the 905P 960GB are a better value, even if it is more than half the price of the NAS. I have 4 of them in my NAS accounting for more than half the cost, including the 7950X and ECC RAM. The 118GB are $75 right now and would be a perfect fit for this NAS, and really the only way to get Optane in this NAS without having a tangled mess of adapters to go from M.2 to U.2 The 905P are still $400 so not as good of a value as when the $118GB was $219 but still a great value comparatively, almost 10x capacity, for 5x the price, i have a stack of 8 i'm just holding onto because i expect the stock to dry up and for no other tech to come close to the endurance of these until we get something like holographic storage, but that would be slow AF. I want to be able to use my stock of them for 20+ years

We sell budget options for people who just want file storage but also want to remove the manual aspects of numerous things like backing up. Even if you are the only one in a house, a budget friendly NAS can streamline and take the guesswork out of things like, backing up, scheduling regular backups to external drives and cloud storage for maximum data protection, consumption of stored photos, audio and videos, games storage if using a laptop, archiving content creation hobbies and more. One might see it as a complex device, we prefer seeing it as a custom experience.

Yea please!

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We are absolutely working around the clock to fix this issue and we thank Tech Notice for finding this problem. We have identified the issue as a firmware issue and are working with our SATA controller partner for a fix. We will notify Tech Notice as soon as we fix and pass the drives in our tests. We did not send the SSDs, the SSDs were of the KZfaqr's decision.

​@@ASUSTOR_YT did the 2 port 10gbe expansions ever get released? If so I would like to buy the Nas and expansions right now.

Synology are great devices.

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I misread "file handling" for "file hording" haha

Not at all. Should just use 7200rpm drives. Read my comments to him. This setup is just silly.

Clearly the guy got it for free, but yeah.

It's for small businesses not content creation

Makes no sense. Nas will top out at 700 MBytes/sec with both rotational and SSD due to processing speed of the box (maybe 900 for raid 0). An exos 16tb drive runs at 270 MBytes/sec, so 4 will max out the box, as the data is striped across the drives. Write speed will depend on the box and raid type, but 500Mbytes/sec is a minimum. SSD drives will not improve this. The other thing that does not make sense is the sw really does not benefit from faster drives as it's usually GPU and cpu limited not I/O. Putting the fastest gen 4 nvme on your creator pc does not make davinci or premier run twice as fast as a gen 3 nvme. You may shave a second or 2 in a long render. Where are the files being pulled from, an external SSD or card. How long does it take to plug in the card and upload the media as well as download music and add on content. Creators need to invest in better GPU or cpu to save time. As for silence, use quiet drives or put the Nas in a sound proof box.

Yup, especially when producing your own music for your video and 3d stuff. That is simply insufficient.

Hello there! Long time no see!

How would you build a Plex server today?

Asustor makes a series of NAS units called Flashstor that uses M.2 drives instead of 3.5/2.5-inch. But no model directly for 2.5-inch only.

Any proof ?

Correct. He did not mention he enabled jumbo frames so the network is the bottle neck, not the drives. Notice how the speed increased when he doubled the network connection. If drives were limiting then the speed would not change. Raid 5 stripes the data across 5 of the 6 drives, so read and write are 5x of a single drive. He was getting close to 180 mb on a single drive, so 5 will put him close to 900mB , and maxing the ethernet link. Not sure about asustore but Synology 8bay Nas will max 10gb connection with spinning drives. The nvme are best used for running apps on the Nas like Plex, or other transcoders as well as security apps with 4k and 8k security cameras.

by the way the cpu gets tapped out real easy on these.. just be warned

PCIe expansion card? you mean HBA or SATA to PCIe adapters? well it's depends, if you already have multigigabit switch (atleast 2.5GBe for using all SSD storage speed potential) and also have the 2.5GBe network adapter for your PC, NAS is better solution especially if you gonna share the files to other person in the facility. But if that's not the case, you better off buying an HBA and running internally, but you have to consider does your PC have the capabilities to put several drive on the case, and also the PCIe slot situation on the motherboard (bandwidth related).

@@pingtime Yeah, that makes sense. I can't say I've invested in a solid switch or adapter I think... ^^ Thing is that most of the work I do is pulled from a "cloud" server with version ctrl such as Github. Therefore a PCIe X16-adapter for an nvme stack is something I've wondered about. More so because I deal with large files a lot & my current ATX motherboard have an unused x16 PCIe slot(With capacity to use the lanes I believe) I think I've seen asus call them expansion cards but I guess my question is if someone have looked at it & know that it works well & makes use of the write-speed of the nvme's that's in it?

@@VertexCarver @Slevin Kelevra 1st thing, what platform do you use? AM4 + X570? can you be more specific? 2nd, about the Asus (or gigabyte/MSi one) 4 NVMe to PCIe x16 adapter, that only worked on specific motherboard (mostly server and high-end workstation motherboard) that support PCIe bifurcation (AKA PCIe Lane splitting) to make full x16 slot to worked as x4x4x4x4 mode. 3rd, I'm afraid if you're using consumer grade platform like AMD AM4/AM5 or Intel LGA 1200/1700 platform, even if your motherboard support PCIe bifurcation, the unused x16 PCIe slot is not actually running at x16 speed electrically, this limitation happened because the processor itself only support between 20-24 PCIe lane total + 4-8 PCIe lane from chipset (usually with lower speed and higher latency). Now if you're using single GPU running at x16 speed + 1 NVMe SSD already taking 20 (16+4) CPU PCIe lane, with the rest of M.2 slot, ethernet, and some other built-in PCIe based peripheral handled by chipset (connected to CPU by Intel DMI bus or x4 PCIe lane on AMD), so yeah, It's not worth the hassle, except you're running EPYC/Xeon W/Threadripper or other HEDT CPU (I'm typing this comment on older Xeon E5-2650v3) that have tons of PCIe lane (mine have 40 PCIe 3.0 Lane) and supported motherboard. But hey, just check your motherboard datasheet/manual to see the Block diagram and PCIe slot allocation first, maybe you just got lucky that your motherboard have very good compability for allocating PCIe bandwidth or even having dedicated PLX switch. My best guess if you're running standard consumer grade platform, just buy used server-grade HBA like LSI 9305-24i based card, and plug in on empty "x16" PCIe slot and buy bunch of Seagate Ironwolf NAS/WD RED 2.5 inch SSD and you have awesome fast bulk storage, and if you didn't mind runnning it 24/7, you can make a samba share out of that drive. For the software, just use software JBOD from windows disk management. Don't forget to buy the HBA that already flashed with "IT mode" firmware so we bypass those pesky built in RAID management software. Or if you didn't like buying used, you can get afforable SATA to PCIe adapter, just becareful about the specs and do some research first, my reccomendation for best compatibility is card that running ASMedia ASM1166/ASM1164 chipset (lol even ASUSTOR using this exact chip on some of their NAS) or JMicron JMB585. heck if youre have spare M.2 M key slot you can get one that using M.2 Form factor instead of full PCIe card for space saving, i'm using both those PCIe card and M.2 one on my DIY NAS right now.

It depends on your use case. A Nas is not an nvme card. Typically it is used to store your entire library of media so you can access it from anywhere and on any machine. It is usually running 24/7 or always when working. If you have a desktop is all your media stored in it, or spread around on various plug in drives which are slow. How can you edit on a laptop or on the road, or can your friend help. The other benefit of a Nas is that it can run automated backups to das drives or other storage. You can setup a Dropbox so you can upload media from the field. Finally a powerful Nas can be used to run media servers or security systems or docker apps like home automation so you don't need more computers running in the house.

@@pingtime Ah okay, I definitly need to read up some! Half of the stuff I'm a bit unsure of the terms & how it all goes together... x] Currently running an Asus Prime 370Z chipset with an I9-9900 KS at home. ( It's... ancient by today's standards so to speak. ) Funny thing when reading the documentation, I think the m.2 slots was listed as something like test slots for next gen storage. xD I'll definitly look into a used server-grade HBA (LSI 9305-24i) for a newer workstation- or an appropriate server board. Been dreaming of not have to juggle around things on external drives so much... Thanks again for the advice^^

Use it as a backup perhaps? Keep a copy files safely offline and they will be protected from online threats like ransomware or user error.

Hi there. SMB is short for Server Message Block. That is the implementation found on Windows. SAMBA is the open source reimplementation of the SMB protocol for many unix-like systems, including Linux, macOS and BSD. SMB is proprietary and SAMBA is open source. Tech Notice does not have a managed switch so he cannot use Link Aggregation. We do support Link Aggregation but we also support SMB Multichannel. SMB Multichannel is a way to combine the Ethernet ports on your NAS and attain double, triple or more depending on the amount of Ethernet ports both your NAS and client PC. Unlike Link Aggregation, it does not require special managed switches, but requires the same amount of Ethernet ports on your NAS as your client. Example, plug in two 2.5GbE ports from your NAS to your switch while your desktop also is plugged in twice with its own dual 2.5GbE ports for a total of up to 5 gigabits per second of speed. SMB Multichannel only works for SMB transfers. Hope this helps!

@@ASUSTOR_YT Thank you for the explanation! I thought CIFS was the open-source version of Samba which was part of my confusion.

@@nicholash8021 No problems! Hope you're having a great day! Microsoft tried to rename SMB to CIFS in 1996 but the name never stuck and Microsoft eventually abandoned this idea.

@@ASUSTOR_YT Oddly enough, Linux is still hodling onto that name. I had to use cifs-utils to mount my SMB shares. LOL

@@nicholash8021 Yeah. It's not always easy to change names or addresses or modules inside an OS without breaking something. Easier to just keep it. Humans are funny.

Hi there! What would you like to know?

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Hi. EZ Connect was not the vector and we have published such information onto our website. We shut off EZ Connect and DDNS as a precaution. Deadbolt is not the only ransomware and no NAS device is ever going to be fully secure from all threats. All anyone can recommend is to back up your data against all types of data loss. We have taken numerous steps to change how we tackle threats and hope to regain your trust in the future. The route of entry was an at-the-time unknown vulnerability inside the UPS module.

Each M.2 slot provides x1 speed of Gen3 performance. The intention is that M.2 SSDs are more useful in their random IO instead of sequential IO for a NAS device and that even 10-Gigabit Ethernet can't saturate the full x4 speeds. It's simply better to have four slots at x1 than one slot at x4.

​@@ASUSTOR_YT when doing rebuild , will X1 lanes limited the rebuild peed ？ Looking for new nas ：) Thank you

Hi there! These SSDs are not on our compatibility list. We encourage people to visit our compatibility list before buying hard drives or SSDs. We test SSDs and hard drives all the time and update our NAS regularly to ensure they work. We did not send the SSDs for this video and were not involved in the procurement of the SSDs. We were informed of the incompatibility and we are working hard to fix it. I too would love to have everything work flawlessly all the time, but alas, we do not live in a perfect world and thus we continue to work hard with our partners to test as much as we can. Hope this helps!

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@@ASUSTOR_YT OK, apologies. It was a solid review, I just took exception to the HW claims. I have to give HW power to QNAP, with Synology historically the weakest.

@@lastsonofthewest2444 I'd love to hear more! What kind of hardware or features would you like to see? We do have desktop class components in our higher end NAS devices, but for us a vast majority of the features on a NAS do not need i5 performance unless you're serving the needs of hundreds of users or running virtualisation. We chose this hardware because it was the most efficient for the use case and the money goes into creating and improving the software to make it easy and seamless. The i5 will not make the primary functionality of the NAS, the Ethernet ports, whether they are Gigabit, 2.5-Gigabit or 10-Gigabit faster than the SoC used in the video. At the same time, keeping desktop-class components cool in a smaller footprint is much harder than the SoC used inside. The SoC doesn't even need a chipset, reducing complexity and heat output. There is nothing wrong with building your own server with an i5. But for us, our claim to fame is that our device just works and that the hardware is reliable and software receives updates for many years while ensuring that our solution takes the guesswork out of data protection and backup. Even with TrueNAS, we use many of the same open source components like SAMBA et al. and thus share the same exploits. All we can do is encourage people to keep proper 3-2-1 backups and regularly update our software.

@@ASUSTOR_YT Well said, and I do understand the positioning, and bifurcation. For me personally, my first NAS was a 1st gen Asustor, a 4 bay embedded. Marvel chip? Circa 2015/2016. It performed well, I needed it only for PLEX and media streaming, my needs were simple. Today, not a lot different, although I enjoy running containers (Docker/K8s) and some firewall apps on my TrueNas build. As a former product manager, glad you are in here asking questions. My QNAPs had first an i3, then an i5, and I realized the transcoding capabilities were much higher with Intel iGPUs. My IDEAL consumer/prosumer NAS today would have 10 GbE, or an open PCIe or expansion slot. 32 GB of DDR5, a 12th or 13th gen i3 or i5, 6 bays, and slot in between $999-1299. I will check the current Asustor lineup, as the QNAPs have been security compromised for a while, and while their app ecosyustem is very deep, it is really messy. Synology wins on app usage, but their machines previously were weak in the 5 bay/6 bay space, without buying more of an SMB NAS, that still lacked some streaming power, and was too expensive. I will say, TrueNas has come up quite a bit from FreeNas in 2016, when I bought one of their 4 bay appliances. I found that was a nightmare for my skillset back then, and the 8 core Atom CPU also was pretty weak for 4k, multistreams.

Checked the product line, the AS6706T would be perfect for my needs, IF it had an i3 in lieu of the Celeron. Understand that might push cooling and BOM costs, but, that would be perfect!

What do you mean? :)

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jumbo frames must be enabled on the switch too, i don;t think that switch he has supports it.

@@giornikitop5373 Excellent point

@@barryobrien1890 but you're right, that's a total waste, not because of the weak cpu or the few incompatibility issues, those happen, but because of the price. $900 is insulting for a nas of that class. it's just a very bad value product.

@@barryobrien1890 but i guess it's all about profit margins, right?

i lied