Project MMO continues as we step into our first Destiny 2 raid - the Vault of Glass. We went in completely blind, not properly geared, no proper builds, no foreknowledge - it was tough but we had so much fun taking it down. Let us know what you thought of the raid, and should we be afraid when we step into Last Wish?

I strongly encourage you to grab 2 of the people that raided with you and do the dungeons too. They are the equivalent of smaller scale raids for 3 people and are made in a similar way to the raids design wise.

I think the Trash Problem that you point out doesn't really register in most D2 player minds because even the jumping puzzles and transitions are treated as encounters most of the time, where you can actually get loot or at the very least get the bonus chests or other triumphs and collectibles.

Raids in destiny always are meant to be locations and the inbetween zones let you relax, explore for secret chests and collectibles, and laugh during parkour. I think it adds values to the raids, especially with how fast you can blaze through them(30 seconds between many encounters).

I like the down time between the bosses in Destiny. A moment to relax and wind down while enjoying the amazing environment that Bungie has made.

The fact that they wont get to do Scourge of the Past with all it's first play through "holy shit" moments is so maddening.

D2 raids get much better as time goes on, raids like Last wish, Deepstone crypt and Vow of the disciple are SUPERB, can't wait to hear you speak about them

Point is the "Fun" between encounters is to find the hidden Chests that contain Raid loot and Spoils and colectives for triumphs

As a long time destiny player, it's very fun and refreshing to see an outside perspective. Most of the community is "in the know" and seeing other MMO perspectives is awesome! If you are planning on doing another d2 raid, id highly recommend "Kings Fall". It's another d1 remake, but it is one of my favorites by far. The mechanics are more complex than vault and it likely will require a tune up in the team's load outs, but it's very worth it. Can't wait to see more!

The in between serve as platforming/Jumping puzzles most of the time. Something you have to understand with Destiny raids is that it is essentially a story mission inn a sense. The raid is trying to tell a story and get you to feel as if you are embarking on a mission. Diving deeper into the vault of glass and finding your way is part of that story. We have had these since 2014 and they're never leaving lol. They can get annoying eventually but serve the purpose of showing your traversal through the raid and gives you this feeling of discovery and searching.

Going through all the D2 raids? Bruh I am SO here for this. Lets go

As a destiny raider, they definitely improve over time as the devs figure things out. I also recommend you check out the dungeons in destiny they act like smaller three man raids.

I like the inbetween segments between boss fights.. it gives a sense of scale which bungie excel at with what I saw from the raids and dungeons

Jumping puzzles are a HUGE part of the entire Destiny experience. I personally think its great. So many areas are so carefully crafted and are so... spectacular in their size and scope than it's just breathtaking. The size and verticality of these spaces just feel impressively enormous while not being annoyingly mundane to traverse.

Fun fact about The Oracles, each Oracle location has a set note that plays when it spawns. This means if you are good enough at hearing musical notes you can have one person simply listen and tell you what order they spawned in based on the note played.

To say I am excited to see Preach's thoughts on Last Wish is an understatement. CANNOT WAIT for THAT encounter...(if you know, you know)

Side note, as some others mentioned as well, the one thing I particularly LOVE about Destiny is the sheer scale and scene setting. Their raids are always massive, epic scenes no matter where you are. I personally haven't done any of the raids (no friends that play lol) but love watching the playthroughs and poking my head in the raid ingame and just looking around as much as I can. They absolutely nail the design everywhere IMO. All of their locations are just stunning to look at.

Can't wait to see you guys work your way to Last Wish. Genuinely one of the best raids ever made in any MMO

It’s always interesting to see a first time raiders opinion of Raids I know inside and out.

As a Destiny veteran, I love watching new people figure out raids. Keep this series up I’ll definitely keep tuning in

An LFG system is being added in one if the coming seasons this year, luckily

Love seeing some one dive into the raids truly blind, most people find a sherpa to teach them but the blind experience is incredible. So excited to see any other raids, especially King's Fall and Last Wish. Also would love to see a blind dungeon, maybe even a blind solo dungeon since they're designed for 3 players but always solo-able.

Really glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully more to come. EXTREMELY envious of the first time through feelings you got from it haha.

The raids and dungeons in D2 are absolutely amazing. I did VoG back in D1, and they did such a good job translating it into D2. King’s Fall is one of my favorite raids, and I hope you enjoy it. It was a lot cooler in D1 because it perfectly tied up the campaign for The Taken King, but mechanically it is great. After I quit WoW I hopped over to D2 in Beyond Light after being gone since Warmind(I played the campaign of Shadowkeep but that doesn’t count rly) and it’s the game I devote my daily gameplay to. The gunplay and builds bring so much to the experience for me, and it is so enjoyable to me that I enjoy hopping into strikes and doing them over and over again. There’s always something to grind, and when I have my sights set on it I won’t stop. I’ve almost got 1k hours into the game, and it’s fun to be able to go hard for a few weeks then take a week off and play single player games just to get back to grinding.

The 3 rooms for the final boss are the same room at different points in time. So past, present, and future.

yea the raids are easily the most memorable and worthwhile experiences destiny has to offer, whenever ive taken a break from the game, what are those moments of the game that pop into my head that i remember so well? those first raid clears, it can be a good motivator for doing the other busywork the game has to offer (busywork = better loot = better raid clears), but ive gotten bored of it for now hopefully the next day 1 raid experience will be a good one, the recent one was a bit of a letdown difficulty wise

Man Put into perspective As someone with 9 years into the series how that sense of Discovery feels doing your first raid. On the surface Almost everything in destiny holds your hand is some form or fashion. But a raid you just drop in and get to figuring it out. Once you get it down it there are simple concepts but figuring it out is just a great feeling. I just don't have that feeling so much anymore when you've played that game so much you just know what to expect to a certain degree. Watching you fight templar really reminded myself of how it was back in 2014 for me. Now these days I just get my team and we kill him in 10 seconds. To have that sense of fun and discovery I do hope I find again. Really put well together video, Hit the nail right on the head. day to day stuff in destiny is not something you really want to do, But the stuff that leads you into what this game can become in raids in dungeons is so good.

I definitely hope you continue on your journey through D2's raids and dungeons, they're some of the best experiences the game has to offer. Also the areas in between encounters are meant to be low-tension where you're just kinda parkouring around collecting secret chests and collectibles/watching your homies fall to their deaths repeatedly. Excited to see more!

The way you guys used compass directions in the final boss encounter is actually super interesting. Even the way you handled those rooms by standing in the middle looked far more exciting than the method D2 players use. Tbh I'm wondering if the way you did it was how Bungie intended it to be. Fighting off the adds while killing the Oracles and the Relic holder killing the shield guy as well, instead of just standing in a safe spot, looks far more enjoyable

Can't wait to hear your reaction to Last Wish and Vow of the Disciple! Also consider trying out some dungeons like Grasp of Avarice and Ghosts of the Deep!

i'm a new-ish fan of the channel and I cannot WAIT for you to get to some of the newer raids and dungeons, they are VERY fun and cool

Super interesting video I enjoyed your take and it’s one I have been wondering about hope you enjoy the rest of the raids!!

My brother and I stumbled upon a strange dungeon called "The Whisper". Easily the best experience ive had in all of Destiny. ❤

If you enjoy the raids then I would highly recommend trying the dungeons as they are also some of the best designed pve encounters that destiny 2 has to offer. They are so much fun to do with a couple other people or if you feel like more of a challenge you can also take them on solo.

Awesome to see you in D2. Very happy, hope you enjoy it, their take on raiding and dungeons is very unique.

Congrats on your first VoG clear 🤠 that was fun to watch and I loved hearing the cheers after an encounter was done. Brings me back.

As far as activities between boss go, I loved the sparrow section in the Scourge of the Past raid. Sadly this raid is not in the game anymore :( Some of the dungeons have similar sections and I would recommend running them in addition to all of the raids, they are like mini raids for 3-player groups. Very fun to do blind like the raids!

The destiny community myself included love the sections between bosses because they are filled with platforming, puzzles, hidden stuff and scene setting. If Destiny raids became boss rushes I would stop playing.

Would love to see the journey of your progression through the raids. The jump in difficulty in a certain raid will be interesting to see you all tackle! Glad you enjoyed your experience

Loved the Video. Would also love to see video like this for every raid/dungeon. Seeing your team figure stuff out is really interesting

Can't wait for them to do LW and Vow. I'd even come back to watch it live, holy crap

This is one of the reasons I love Raids in Destiny. There may be strategies that the community have deemed "The correct way" but really it gives you a lot of freedom in how to execute the mechanics. Like when you mentioned true north, Thats fine! Thats awesome! There are so many different strategies for the raids. People even 3 man or 2 man raids so the strats change up there. Im glad you enjoyed it. Garden of Salvation is one of my favorite raids, I hope you get to do them all though.

Yeeessss. I really wanna see you do all the raids and Dungeons. I genuinely think you'll enjoy that part of the game at least.

I love that you enjoyed the raid! It’s great having everyone involved and having to do something, there’s no room for passengers. Something you’ll learn about destiny raids is that the breaks in between encounters do get better but they are also there for secrets and triumph completions. If I remember correctly(it was nearly 10 years ago) there was a challenge back in D1 to kill all the gorgons in the maze. They are super beefy and with each one killed it buffs the remaining ones. It’s things like that in those areas that I love because if you don’t want to engage with it you can just move on past it. Or you can take the time to do something a bit different and get something for it.

Please do all the dungeons as well! They are basically 3-man mini-raids with more unique and fun mechanica

You are going to have a blast in King's Fall, easily one of the best raids in Destiny. It's a bit of a step up in difficulty from Vault of Glass, but it's pretty easy to figure out.

As a Destiny veteran this was really fun to watch. I hope you do more videos about Destiny-raids in the future :)

It was really nice to see your perspective on Destiny raids! While the later ones have way more refined mechanics, i think VoG still has one of the best difficulty curves and each encounter leads neatly into the next! Looking foward to see you play the other raids!

Doing the original Vault of Glass on release in destiny 1 with randoms was a nightmare, I must have attempted the raid like 20 times and never got to do the final boss.

19:00 you CAN just send one person to do it. Everyone else goes to orbit, maze runner goes ahead, gets through it and far enough into the next area so that when the rest of the team warps back down by joining the runners fireteam, they spawn in at the beginning of the next area.

I can't wait to see your videos on Deep Stone Crypt, King's Fall and Last Wish, since you seemed mostly to enjoy your time in the Vault! I'm quite curious to see if you'll enjoy a certain walk in the Crypt. Very atmospheric! Honestly, it's very much worth turning off voice comms for a bit and just... enjoying the moment. Thanks for the video, and I can't wait to see what's next! :) Cheers!

I love hearing your first thoughts and impressions on this raid. I love living vicariously through nee raiders which i why i love to teach them. It brings me back to when i first raided. Incredible experience of intense gameplay and coordination with a surge of excitement once completed. Please do this for the other raids. They are amazing too. The scenery and the music is insane. I would love to see what you think

The raids get a lot better after vog its also their first raid encounter they designed. and if you had better gear the door would prob open faster : D

this was really interesting to watch. Been so long since VoG was new to me. I'm quite excited for you guys to do the Last Wish raid... that one is pretty damn epic.

Very refreshing to see you play d2. Quit a few weeks ago, though still play with my dad. Wish I could play without being expected to watch a 3 hour raid walkthrough. The way you guys play seems so fun!!

Been my main game for years with about 4000hs on it. Love that you’re trying it’s best part out 🙏

im subbing just to keep updated on this D2 raids series, please keep em coming!

I still enjoy my time in between encounters, it’s a wonderful time to walk and enjoy the scenery and listen to the ambiance

Hey Preach - I've been watching your content for years, even after I quit WoW and picked up Destiny. I have to say that seeing you take on this challenge and come away so enthused has filled me with delight. Even though Vault of Glass is the oldest of the Destiny raids and the most outdated in terms of its design, it still has a sense of magic to it and it's so good to see that come through for you. I would love to see you try out some of the other raids - in my opinion, they get better and better as they go along. I can't wait to hear your thoughts of Deep Stone Crypt or the Garden of Salvation. Thanks for all your content, and for putting a smile on my face!!

I've never seen your channel but loved that youtube recommended this! Can't wait to see you tackle the King's Fall and Last Wish. This two are mechanic HEAVY! There's a last wish's first completion was 18hrs long. Hope you enjoy Destiny 2! Also try the dungeons in the game! They're mini raids for 3 player fireteams.

I love that this was your feelings towards the V.O.G. Many of us who have been playing Destiny for years holds it in high regards because of its mechanics. I think you should do dungeons as well. It's shorter with a smaller team, but the design for some of them are great.

Hearing this recounting is bringing back so many memories of trying to progress these blind. I really enjoyed most of the jumping puzzles from what I remember, but I think class choice and comfort level with their movement abilities has a huge impact.

As a Destiny 2 player myself I’m very glad you enjoyed your first raid. I’m also glad to see you guys go in blind and figure it all out on your own. I can’t wait to see you guys move up to some of the harder raids and get more of a taste of what Destiny 2 has to offer.

The main thing I love about destiny raids, is like you say, everyone is involved, it's hard to get bored because you have to do a task.

Really cant wait to see yalls next raid! I get why you wouldnt like the "in between" sections of raid, but i feel like they do end up adding to the overall raid, even if some of the segments arent super engaging or interesting after running it 20+ times. The first few times through em though, theyre really exciting since you never know if theres a secret chest or lore colletible or puzzle that unlocks something hidden somewhere, or some incredible sights that you cant get anywhere else in the game. so theyre really fun to explore and experience those first few runs. After that though, its a good down time between encounters to bet your friends that they cant make the jumping puzzle in one try as you try to grief them. Some of them drag on a little too long imo (especially in the latest dungeon), but for the most part i would rather have them than not have them

I remember this raid, what a great time proging that lol. Glad to see you branching out into the more untraditional mmos.

If and when he does return, i think he's gonna love the Music in the Oryx fight. The Trumpets blaring as he climbs into position!

So glad your gettin into this :D

Was great watching you guys figure it out. It was frustrating at times 😂but all in all great to see you all come together

Me and my friends love the jumping puzzles...makes for super memorable moments.

good luck on the blind last wish run, thats gonna be a banger video

-hates jumping puzzles -going to kings fall next gonna be a hilarious stream lmao

Yeeeeeeah! Destiny2 the best meh casual game with fun pvp and INSANE COOL Raids. I miss them so much! Cant wait to See you play the other ones

As someone who loves raiding and especially VoG, I am happy you like it for now in D2. Imo the raids only get better. I am excited for your team to meet Rulk and his legs or the DSC chaos :3

Man, I wish there was a way for you to experience Destiny 1's other raids (Vault of Glass was the very first raid of Destiny 1, here remade for 2). The Taken King Raid was my absolute favorite from Destiny 1, but I implore you to try different ones out because they mostly all have unique puzzles that were crazy to figure out. Good luck and have fun raiding!

Can’t wait for the next video love this :)

hands down best intro from a d2 content creator on youtube ever.

PREACHA!!! love the fact you are playing Destiny, long time subscriber from your WoW days.

The "day to day play" that you describe isn't actually the day to day play, that's the blueberry (new players, in blue gear) stuff to just go out and grind materials and things to setup your account. As a new player you need an obscene amount of legendary shards and glimmer to unlock class fragments and aspects, and build some sort of an arsenal to get into end game content. The day to day experience for someone who has already unlocked all of that, has every exotic weapon and armour for their class as well as a vault full of weapons is raids, dungeons, Grand Master level nightfalls and seasonal content. As a high level player you will rarely if ever find yourself wondering around patrol zones doing public events, patrols and all that busy work.

i hope to see videos for each of the d2 raids! excelent content.

Destiny 2 raids some of the best content out there. Always so much hype on release. To jump in day 1 destiny 2 raids when released for first race I am glad you are eager to be apart of the action but prepare to grind out power (unless it is not increased at the time) or get drilled into oblivion xD. Most of the time I have had a group but it is always substantially easier after the first week.

So glad to hear you're enjoying D2's raids and I hope more people give it a try because they really are so kuch fun! If you liked Vault just wait till you get to Last Wish, Vault is the base level entry D2 raid experience and it just keeps climbing from there. As far as the story goes the Lightfall writing was universally criticized but the Forsaken campaign and writing from that era is so good and much better than D1/Lightfall so hopefupl you can experience the older campaign content

Great video and love that you got to do VoG blind! Excited to hear your thoughts on king’s fall!

This was so much fun to watch!

Hey Mike, big fan since late Cata. I actually played Destiny 1 since its late beta stages and to answer your question about how raids, a social aspect of a game, were actually formed. When I played it, I actually had a ton of (at the time I was a xbox console boy) friends I met doing strikes (dungeons) and some were good enough that I befriended them and continued to play with them for PvP matches and higher level dungeons. But for raiding, your best bet to find people to do Vault of Glass, which was the first raid of Destiny 1, was to sit in the main hub area. You'd get a lot of personal messages through Xbox message system asking if you wanted to raid VoG, and some asked if you wanted to help a learning team beat VoG (cause you had cosmetics to show you beat the raid). I would say that launch Destiny was a lot like 2004 Release WoW, where you would venture through your MSQ and did the odd strike with randos that became your friends, and you would in turn invite those friends to clear the daunting raid. It was also the time were a lot of things were being figured out by the player themselves instead of guides or walkthroughs of Destiny (until later on in its lifecycle ofc). Hopefully this gave some insight about Destiny one pre discord era.

The events inbetween the encounter is probably my favorite part of destiny 2, getting the opportunity to explore the raid and discover mysteries. chest for the first time. I would see it being boring after doing the raid over and over again, but loot is loot.

Enjoyed the vid. Destiny vet and always like to see peeps reactions to first times in Destiny. Stick with it. Look forward to more raid vids. Try the dungeons too.

Raids are always composed of beautiful scenery along with pretty entertaining boss encounters

really enjoyed this! I laughed out loud at North/ South. Most of us D2 players play the day to day to be prepared for Day 1 raids as they get a contest modifier. Have to be on your A+ stuff there. Subbed because I can't wait to see your thoughts on Last Wish, which is my absolute favorite piece of content in any video game. Ever. Cheers!

Pretty cool video its very different to see the pov of someone who has experience in mmo playing this game because honestly u got the understanding pretty well, literally the only thing your missing is better weapons, better loot, coordinated dpsing ,buffing all that stuff but very interesting to watch and see, I will be honest some parts of destiny are just u slugging it out so u can do what u want to do later but u become more experienced and learn that things like public events, patrols which are a small part of the game that seem important are pretty much worthless. its really just carried by the sandbox, dungeons and raids.

Loved this! Subbed!

would love to see you guys do every raid of the game. Subbed

Love seeing newer D2 figure stuff out. I haven't done legit Atheon since doing my flawless run. Too used to having everyone jump off the edge and having someone solo oracles.

Kings Fall is a blast can’t wait to watch you guys clear it

Lot of fun to see someone with genre raid knowledge but not D2 raid knowledge. Looking forward to see how you like the other raids (VoG is definitely the most primitive, even after it was reprised)

youre so right, raids are the pinnacle content and very replayable. story was amazing in witch queen, unforunately the ball was dropped in Lightfall

Can't wait to see your reaction to Vow. There is a lot of communication in there. The first encounter basically has everyone having to do call outs based on what role they are playing. V.o.G. and Vow are my 2 favorite raids. You have to give the dungeons a go too. They are all good hard to pick a favorite.

As a long-time Destiny player who has never played other MMOs (since I was a shooter fan first), it's interesting to hear your characterization of the "Trash Problem." Destiny's raids having interstitial traversal sections is such a fundamental part of the Destiny raiding experience to me. They provide a breather between encounters, a chance for everyone to catch their breath, socialize a bit, compare loot, etc. But more importantly, they play into something that sets Destiny, as an FPS, apart from other MMOs. IMO, a huge part of Destiny's unique fun factor is your fluid mobility - that unique combination of Bungie's top-shelf FPS control "feel" and the borderline absurd in-air height and distance you can travel using each class's unique jump mechanics. The jumping puzzles are a chance to play around with the mobility sandbox in the same way that the encounters test your gunplay, puzzle solving, and team communication skills. I wonder if your view of the traversal sections will change over time. Bungie does ramp up the complexity of the jumping puzzles in later raids, but more importantly, they dramatically increase the eye candy factor. As you know, Vault of Glass was the first Destiny raid, and suffers visually from the fact that it was built to work on PS3s. On top of that, Bungie leaned hard into the "dark mysterious ruin" aesthetic of this raid, whereas later raids featured more of the spectacular vistas and skyboxes that Bungie's art design is better known for. Your first time through the later raids, these jumping puzzles become more than just filler - they're a core part of the raid's visual storytelling and help give the raid a feeling of exploring a real place rather than just moving from one video game level to the next. Regardless of whether you do or do not end up coming to enjoy the traversal sections, looking forward to seeing more! Thanks for giving D2 a chance, those of us who love the game are all-too-familiar with it being something of the red-headed stepchild of modern video gaming, and we're always happy to welcome new Guardians to the world.

This is why Lost Ark was so incredible. There is extremely few trash, then it's just the boss, for the most difficult and entertaining fights that you'll ever take part in.

Jumping puzzles in Destiny have been a mainstay since Destiny 1, Vault of Glass being the first raid in D1, I believe was the first jumping puzzle. Yes they can be annoying, but they also teach you how to use your jumps. The jumping puzzles in Destiny 2 have always been fun to me, not so much for my other half, but I have loved all of them. Whisper of the worm was an blast to run thru, and Im glad they are going to be putting all the Exotic guns missions on a random rotation.