Please read: Those of you telling me that I am tightening the stem plate in the wrong place, thank you for informing me and I will use this information to fix the scooter. HOWEVER, just because the stem issue CAN be fixed does not make the Mantis a quality product. 500 miles is almost nothing for a high end scooter and for it to be loosening in such a significant way is a major issue for me. I DO NOT feel safe on this scooter. I shouldn't have to be popping the thing open to work on it after such a short amount of time. This is besides all the other issues that I listed in the video. Also, YOU not having the same issues with this scooter does not change my personal experience with the scooter. You can tell me a million times that you like the scooter and you won't change my opinion because I have my own personal experience with it. That is what MY channel is for: MY experience. I told my story about my issues with all the flat tires as a warning for my American viewers because Fluid Freeride is the main or only distributor here, and I want them to know that I did not get the correct innertube replacement from Fluid. If you have a place where you can quickly get quality innertubes for the Mantis, good for you. I have not had that experience though. Thanks for watching and supporting as always.

I have a I Ninebot Max it's great very solid and dependable machine. I had my heart set on a Mantis but the hard truth and harsh reality of this video has changed my view. I appreciate this video for telling it like it is.

thanks for being honest with your review. your experience is your experience and honesty goes a long way and could help someone in the future...keep up the good work

Dude I got over 1200 miles on my mantis 10 and it's still going strong as ever.... battery hasn't lost any power and all I've had to do so far is replace my tires and brake pads... my brakes work beautifully.

Im own a mantis im currently 1 thousand kms. So far so good and here in the Philippines we are always given PMS and update parts for free.

I knew something happened when we didn't hear from you and your Mantis vids for some time. My Mantis is doing fine for now but I do see low quality issues with mine. All scooters have issues though, even Dualtrons. Spend your money wisely folks!

Newer mantis is built with a forged single piece of aviation grade aluminum that stretches from the part that connects the deck to stem, to the rear kick plate. This insures the problem at 8:14 will never occur.

Thanks for your insight, you saved me a ton of head ache and grief. Great job

In a pinch you can use two ring spanners to bend a valve stem. Feed the two spanners over the stem and lever them against or away from one another.

Sooo happy I’m not the only one with all the mantis problems. I didn’t have the greatest of experiences with the distributor. I have the pro model and it is not any better. Thanks for this video.

Another great video and so sorry to hear the issues you're having. I'm up to 700 miles on my Mantis with no problems yet. Here's hoping that it stays that way. This is my third scooter and I had a similar issue with another brand and it just seemed like I got a lemon. I'm still loving the Mantis for the amazing way it rides. It's really early days for the scooter industry, so let's hope the general quality of products continues to improve as things get more mainstream. Love the channel as always...

Finally a real review. These top youtube guys get their scooters for free and every single scooter they review is "oh so good, best one yet, insane, crazy" yadda yadda. Complete bs. Thank you! Unfortunately I wish I saw this a week ago. I just got the mantis king gt, brand new the front tire won't hold air.

I have a mantis pro and these are valid concerns. Thank you for bringing them to my attention. I'll keep an eye out for these issues. Its ridiculous that they are not selling the right part for their scooter on their own website and overcharging you as well. These are definetly manufacturing issues and they should replace the whole scooter especially now that you've attempted to fix them yourself. Thank you. I hope your replacement doesnt have the same issues.

... There are bolts on the sides of the Deck, they become accesible once you remove the front "Bumper" ...if i ever encounter that stem "problem" ill tighten the bolts and also JB weld it together permanently

Thank you for this follow up video. It's what we REALLY need. All the "wow, look at the new XXXXX model" are useless for determining the quality and longevity of a scooter. Only after being used for at least 3 to 4 hundred hours is a true review possible. Thank you for this. Great information.

Thanks a lot for this review. I was actually considering the Mantis. I can't believe the poor design, engineering, and manufacturing of a $1600 scooter. Very disappointing.

I almost bought a Mantis Until I saw this. Thank you. I will be waiting until they fix this issue. Keep up the good work!

Flat tires on a scooter are really a nigtmare. This was the reason why I sold my Xiamo 365 after only a few weeks, even though I really enjoyed riding it. Besides the inner tubes required, also the process of replacing them with these tiny wheels is pure torture.

The thing I love about this rant is very true - nobody does any follow up, sturdiness or longevity testing on any scooters. A consumer hands the seller a couple thousand or more dollars, then the companies change the models every 12-18 months. Dualtron for example has about a dozen different ones, they also have the Speedway models and now they carry the BlueTran models. Why in the world does a scooter company need so many models and who is going to keep track of their quality? In reality I only see room for maybe 5 speed versions of a scooter with interchangeable street and off-road tires included in the price: 0-15mph, up to 30, up to 45, up to 60, and then highway speeds 60 > 80+mph I would also make the scooters modular to change deck width, stem height and be able to install a reinforced bracket to mount a seat that sits back closer to the rear tire or add a basket to the same seat post. Dualtron is not alone in this hype driven platform so what I would like to see is longer warranties that I don't have to pay an extra $400-$600 for 3 years. If the product is good then I shouldn't have to pay extra to insure it and possibly get the run-a-round when I make a claim. Don't care if someone gets offended because if I'm paying thousands of dollars for a big battery and a few hundred dollars in parts that get imported and manufactured from overseas, I want to make sure it will last. These scooters are rated for people 220 to 350Lbs. so it should tested rigorously with the heaviest listed weight for at least 1,000 miles before bringing it to market. The electronics, brakes and other components should all be tested as well and have certificates like they do with other products costing thousands of dollars.

Thank you for sharing all of this. I was going to go test ride a Mantis Pro today but after seeing this will be passing on Kaabo altogether.

Luckily I avoided the mantis myself, the stem bolt issues were enough to scare me away. Have 2100 miles on my t10-ddm(10x factory direct) I highly recommend it because it has none of those major issues. There’s a couple trivial things but nothing like you’re describing here. Kaabo always been a little shady with the recalls/replacement stem bolts...

I was going to include a picture to help you out, sometimes thinking outside the box works best, especially different circumstances, in about 25 seconds on eBay, I found the same exact tire you and I have on the Mantis without air... Instead of a tube they have a softer compound foam that mimics a pneumatic tire, problem solved indefinitely for $30

To everyone trying to purchase a scooter that’s kinda similar to the Mantis. Please get the Dualtron Eagle Pro 🦅 it’s very similar to the Mantis. I have already put in like 400 miles, and haven’t had any problems. It’s all about maintain your scooter correctly.

Get a dualtron eagle pro or zero10x. As a Mantis owner, really saddens me to see all these issues. Such a fun machine but not worth the risk. I’m only at 200 miles with no major problems but only a matter of time. Thank you sharing this video, will educate riders on what to look out for. Ride safe!

Been waiting for your next video! And have been looking at a Mantis because of you specifically. Thank you for this video!

The high cost of tubes is probably due to a very small and specialized product. That always costs more.

Sorry you are having so many problems with your scooter. I can’t help but think that most of your damage was caused by that high speed collision with a curb early on. You nailed that curb hard. I would have expected damage to the wheels and especially the steering head and deck. The fact that it didn’t break in half is surprising. The factory tires are easily damaged by impact and this will cut cords inside. This will make the tire eat tubes. Constant flats until the offending tire is replaced. Any scooter with theses tires can have this same problem. I have a Mantis Pro that has almost 700 miles on it. Tightening bolts with thread locker is a must on these machines, just like off-road motorcycles. The 3 inch wide tires that are available for these fit perfect and are much thicker and can be purchased with tubes that fit fine. I have had no flats since I made this upgrade. The bolts that come on all of these Chinese scooters are low quality and will stretch if either over tightened or over stressed in a crash. Super high quality replacements should be considered. Cheap and fairly easy to change out. I think the Mantis is just fine if it is checked and maintained regularly. All of them will need this. Good luck.

Your main issue is due to the bearings, change them and you will be fine.

You can bend the valve for the tube I drive semi some times we have to bend valves to fit all the time

I just purchased a mantis 10 duo V2. And they have fix the issues you are talking about.

2,000 miles on my Kaabo Mantis. If you need help fixing your issues let me know. I'd be happy to help.

Why didn't you get it fixed under warranty. The hub problem would have neen covered

Wow!Do Not continue riding that scooter. I can't believe the front section is totally coming off. My god. Confirming everyones suspicions about the mantis. Just be glad your stem didn't snap mid ride like others... Curious, what was your psi In the tubes when they kept going flat?

509 miles is very new. That’s ridiculous. Thank you so much for this video. It helped a lot.

Holy crap if inner tubes are impossible to get then that's honestly a show stopper. Tires (and tubes) are one of the most important parts on a vehicle expected to be used on the road

That's why I went with Zero 10X it had the most long term reviews and aftermarket support. I received it August 22nd and already have 834 miles and no mechanical issues. I'll be doing my 1000 mile review shortly on my channel.

I just got one KM 8. This is an old video so hopefully they have improved the quality. So far is great.

I appreciate the honest feedback. What's going to consider buying the Mantis today. Keep up the good work you have a subscriber just for courage of speaking out the truth

1. Did you try to bend the tire valve w pliers to the correct angle 2. For any loose parts you can try to weld them together. This is regarding the loose footboard

This was the Fluid Freeride version of the scooter correct? Im seriously considering the newer Kaabo Mantis 8.

What is your thoughts on the Mantis Pro SE from Voromotors? It looks like they are making a few upgrades that may fix some of these issues.

i think you made your points, ppl defend it just because they have one of them.

Get rid of flats forever by putting tuffy tire liners on it. I used to have a e-longboard with off road tires and was constantly getting flats. Put tuffys on and wrapped it so I had 3 layers thick. I never ever had a flat again. I couldnt even puncture through with a needle when I was testing.

3 thousand km on my Ride. LED strip died after 600 km, rear hydraulic brake started leaking and died after 800 km. Besided that all well. Of course, as a precaution, I waterproofed it and re-tighened all bolts with glue.

Scrapping the Mantis as a choice - very informative video - thank you!

Order zero 10x I've bought it at the same time when you bought your mantis. It's still perfect

A bit of locktight on the front plate will resolve this of screws coming loose.

Love your videos. But the way you ride your Mantis, these issues were expected. I would suggest making videos on how to fix this issues. By the way i don't even have a Mantis)

Does the Apollo ghost have any of these problems?

Thanks. I was looking at the Mantis, but will cross this one off the list.

Thanks for your honest opinion, I will cross this one off the list.

wow thats shocking and dangerous , thank you so much for reviewing this , i have to say upgrading a e scooter is such a hard thing to choose from

thank you for your honesty. I wont get on one of these. and omg what a pain with the tubes. Have a nice day.

Thanks for a great review as I was looking at a Kaabo.

I had this scooter and it was great. Super fast. I only sold it because I felt I would be more comfortable on an ebike. Not going to get the same speed out of an ebike but will be way more super chill as 2000w scooters are like constantly being on a roller coaster. Fun for a bit but bound to be extremely dangerous over time.

Im so glad I bought the Varla Eagle One!

I have to disagree with your views on this scooter, in a brief segment within your video, I seen you jumping off a curb. Okay the machine can handle it but how many times do you think you can ride hard without expecting give or take... Murphy's law. Problems your experiencing including correct tube purchase!?! (Huh lol)Maybe it's just me but I felt your problems are minimal in this video and redundant, loose construction of the neck on top of the battery box could be fixed with a quarter inch piece of aluminum or carbon flat stock ( 7'-8'inch X 3'-4'inch) but instead you discredit your previous videos and expect the world like it's never going to have issues...

thank you for making this video! i have been saving for a few months now and was going to get a mantis, thanks for the honest in depth video! keep up the good content

Kaabo needs to send you some freebies for just the pain in the ass time you had and even tried to defend them for such a long time.

thank you so much for doing a review of the problems on this electric scooter I wanted to buy this electric scooter but changed my mind thank you so much you saved my money...

I was thinking about getting this scooter but now I guess I'll look for one that doesn't use inner tubes flats are a pain in the butt.

The stem on my Kaboo mantis cracked around the clamping point thanks god i noticed it quickly cause of a strange wobbling i contacted the supplier in china via Alibaba and they sent me a new upgraded stem, it was really difficult to replace due to the wiring and bake lines i have the mantis pro with hydraulic brakes by the way, and last but not least the common brake noise that most of us know about i had to replace the rear disc brake cause it was slightly bent but other than i have had a lot of fun with the scooter no flats tires so far.

I’m having the same issue with my mantis 8 with the base of the deck. Kaabo keeps saying it’s the stem. I sent them a video and it’s taking forever to deal with this issue.

There is no way those two little screws secure the front frame. You either need to take the thing apart and loctite all fasteners, or if you aren't comfortable doing that, get someone who is. And maybe some solid tyres or a run flat variant would help you. Best of luck.

The inner tubes are easy to find, they are 15$ shipped on Aliexpress for a pair of them. The mat is easy to tack down with some glue. Stem issues have been resolved and updated with the newest models, there have been no reports that I know of regarding stem issues. That motor wobble is deffinitly unacceptable though, I hope they improved the quality control and design of it by now. It also sounds like you have had many bolts/screws come lose. This can cause a lot of wiggle and play in the joints. This only makes things worse, so you need to make sure that you lock tite them, when they come lose so that they don't come lose again. Towards the end of the video I see where the stem meets the deck, the whole insert is sloppy. There should be bolts underneath the deck, those are likely very lose! Lock tite and re tighten to spec. Also lock tite and re tighten the screws on top of the deck. Without lock tite, it'll just come lose again

Thank God I saw this video. I almost bought this

Are these the same problems on the pro se? I’m looking at a used one and a decent price. Should I steer clear?

Thanks a lot man. And glad i came across your channel. I was about to order one. And it is true, spare parts distributors are important, that's why i am going for the Segway Ninebot max G30. A friend of mine who owns one, recommended this to me. That's why i think it would be wise for me to order one from a shop nearby who has all the parts instead of ordering a Mantis from China.

My Mantis Pro shows up tomorrow and my heart sank after a seen this post..

I've had a Wide Wheel Pro for 3 years and its a tank. Brakes suck and have to be adjusted but other than that no issues.

I have 1,586 on my kaabo mantis pro with zero issues... it's maybe because I don't jump it 🤣 with zero flats .. kick stand is till working the mat is junk that got unglued no big deal I replace it with skateboard grip

I had the same issue with my mantis, you can fix the shaking part by taking off the from covert where the light are and tightening the 4 screw on each side

Oh man I'm just reading all the reviews. Now I feel weird about this. I ordered the mantis because all the positive reviews that I saw. Mine is actually on its way and arriving today. I'm hoping that I don't have this experience. I was thinking that maybe you just got a lemon or a defective one. Its on a 6months warranty so I can't change things now.

Have you tightened the stem. Because I feel like there is a bit of wiggle to my front stem and don’t know where is best to tighten from. Also any of the tires side nuts DO NOT COME OFF. No matter the force those bolts will not losen without cracking the frame. Don’t know if the hulk tightened it at the factory or super glued it but I hope I don’t get a flat bc won’t be able to change. Sad for a 3k scooter w all fluid free ride Bells and whistles.

I have nanrobot d6+ and I can relate to him from the very first day I am having troubles with inner tubes. The replacement inner tubes are always 1 in small in width so it causes strain on the tube and it does not last long. Not sure where we can get the correct inner tubes or is it just a monopoly in China 🙄

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences with the Mantis scooter, I was just about to purchase a Mantis scooter but now, after watching this video, I wont buy it. Thank you for the updated review.

thank you for honest review.

Hiboy? That’s your recommendation?! Seriously dude..

Subbed and liked! Thanks for sharing!!

Abit late now mate I bought it on your recommendation... the only problem I am having with my mantis pro is the deck wobble if you have found a way to fix that please do let us know.

i had my first flat and innertubes for mantis pro are not available at fluid, after a couple tries and returns from amazon ,i found that you can get them on ebay and the same innertube for zero 10x ( cant remember the company name that sells zero 10x) ,they worked just fine.i have 300 miles on my scooter and the only problem i have had was my front brake caliper was leaking fluid since day one i had been riding with only rear brake, , fluid sent me a new one free of charge,nice to have both front and rear ,big difference, and since i was changing the rear i went ahead and switched to the off road tires, i was concerned that the clearance would be an issue , but they run just fine ,no issues at all.

Thank you so much for this brilliant video.

Eyes Opened! Thank for the great in-depth video. (New Subscriber)

Which Kaabo Mantis Scooter is your review about?

I'm in the shower, on my way to go pick up the last Mantis pro Se 2022 but, I just changed my mind and I'm not even dry yet.

Thanks for saving my nerves and money. I was just debating on buying Kaabo Mantis Lite. Not anymore

Thank you RK9 , I Was contemplating buying this scooter but you have definately given me an eye opener about it......Shame that You spend between $ 1000 and $1600 and these companies still get it wrong or they are purely in it for the Maximun profit .....Either way its a shame , Im looking for my First scooter , would like something that can reach 23 or 24 miles per hour with decent suspension , 1 Honeycomb tire and 1 Pneumatic Tire , with a 24 to 25 Mile range , Decent lights and no rattling of the Stem or other Parts while Riding ....Open to any recomendations .....would also get a scooter that has both Pneumatic Tires as long as they are not difficult and time consuming to change .

Looking at the stem issue, I don't think it will be causing problems in Europe where I live. The BMI is much lower over here and extreme overweight is rare among scooter users.

Apollo is a very high quality Canadian brand which we'll purchase soon. The GHOST or the Phantom or the Pro.

Hi! 🖐️ How did you managed the first problem, cause yesterday i got a second hand Kaabo Mantis 10 Pro + and i got the same problem, but only this time it's on the front motor.. The scooter is only at 370 km and the front motor i wobbling like a lot..

Has kaboo fixed all the issues yet

Thanks soo much for this video. I was on the fence between the Mantis and the Zero 10x and this helped me make a decision. I will be going with the Zero 10x.

I was looking to upgrade to a mantis after my Apollo explore got flooded and is no longer working. Thanks for review I will no longer consider the mantis as a replacement. Sorry that you had to go through this.

I now have owned my kaabo mantis 10 pro for 2 months, riden 505km and only 2 flats (same hole) went to the Thansen (mecanic shop) and they had one that matched but the wrong angle, i got it fitted tho. No problems otherwise a great scooter

Hello thanks for review i want to know if you have the v1 v2 or v3 of kaabo mantis is appreciated your answer!

Thqnk you very much for this review

Very much appreciate the heads up. Thank you!!!

Thank you for an honest review.

You can get the tubes on Amazon 2 for $10 they are tight like they are showing but hold up fine. You need a different pump or at least an extension hose. I am currently using g one with no issues. As for the hub I had the same issue on my pro SE same issues with the tire waring and break disk clipping. Mines about a month old and the pads are toast I purchased it from voro and they were very cool and sent me a replacement compleat rear motor/hub free of charge. On mine and probably yours. It’s the clips or what look like clips. That you screw the rim to the hub through. They are drilled off center. At this point your probably sol but for new owners. And dude your tightening the wrong screws for the stem wobble pop off the front headlights cover those bolts and the bolts under the body need tightened. This is normal maintenance bro. The only real issue you have is the hub and yea that sucks. But the rest is because your not taking time to learn the proper way to care for your scooter. You don’t have to change the oil or pay for gas but you do need to keep the screws tight. All of them. Loc tight is very helpful. And while you have the headlight cover off waterproof that compartment with silicon. That’s the most important thing you need to do ASAP. The hub well you can always switch it to the front and pull the break caller off but fluid should have replaced that. Maybe you can ask companies that sell/ repair the mantis if they have a blown motor you could buy/ have check if it’s straight by looking at the gap on those tabs. If they are uneven it’s no good. Heck even the one on voros commercial is wobbly. Well hope you get it working. I don’t see any reall issues that would make me give up on it. Just take some time to learn how it works and how it is put together. And what care is your responsibility and you’ll have a bad mofo ride I promise

Whoaaa i almost bought the mantis 10 lite...went with the blade mini instead