My MOTIV Bowling Arsenal for USBC Nationals

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Motiv Jackal Ghost: bit.ly/JackalGhostBP
Motiv Mythic Jackal: bit.ly/MythicJackalBP
Motiv Venom Shock: bit.ly/3zzC9OJ
Motiv Primal Shock: bit.ly/PrimalShock
So, we have a limited arsenal and challenging conditions. Given that, if I were exclusive to Motiv Products, these are the bowling balls I would bring with.
The first ball always in the bag is a spare ball. Motiv makes this choice pretty easy in only having one option in the laser sniper. I had previously owned the arctic sniper which was definitely reliable, but also hooked a bit as it was urethane. This newest green option is one that is a poly and urethane blend, so it’s fair to expect it would do the right thing to make those single pins.
Moving on, The next ball in the bag is going to be urethane. Again, Motiv makes this one rather simple in only having the Carbide tank in their line. I would have preferred a blue or purple tank myself, but they have been discontinued, so I would definitely be putting some reps into the carbide tank to walk in with some lane shine on it. It is a very strong cover on which you can always bring the surface back down, but please, save yourself a bad decision and stop sanding your equipment in the squad room.
Then we start getting into the reactives. Having 4 spots left, I’ll stick with the rule of thumb I used for the storm arsenal in having both a shiny and dull symmetrical option, and a shiny and dull asymmetrical option. It’s not a perfect science, but it gets us close.
Jumping to the most performance, my dull asym choice is the Jackal Ghost. Interestingly enough, the Ghost has been in production longer than any asym of any other brand, and I don’t think that’s by mistake. Motiv made the best of a bad situation with the ban of the original Jackal and the Carnage by bringing this piece out soon thereafter and it still being a great performer. With a little extra surface on it, I see this being a great option for the fresh.
Jumping to the shiny asym, this was actually pretty simple as the options are again limited. The Mythic Jackal is one that doesn’t get a lot of recognition and I wouldn’t be surprised if it is on the chopping block to be discontinued, but with the other two choices being the Pride Empire and the Blue Coral Venom, and the mythic being hybrid instead of pearl, I would prefer more core to control the midlane and be a little easier off the spot downlane.
Moving to our dull symmetrical option, this was by far the easiest choice. It’s just too legendary to leave it out of the bag. The OG Venom shock is just one of those pieces that you have to bring with. I think at this year’s event, if you can get the surface to match up with the pattern, this might be one that gets used more than all the rest combined, so don’t be afraid to adjust the surface during practice!
And lastly, the shiny symmetrical option. This one was difficult as I was really hoping the new Supra would be announced by now, but nevertheless, FLASH, the Primal Shock is a great option to open the lane up and generate downlane angle. I don’t think it will need to be much shinier than the box surface with some lane shine, but if you see it as being early, consider some slight polish to really make sure it clears the fronts when you have to get in and wheel on it.
And that rounds out my Motiv nationals arsenal.
If you’re headed out to Reno and bringing some motiv balls with, let me know what they are in the comments!

Пікірлер: 49
@thebigeasy8609
@thebigeasy8609 Жыл бұрын
Before I see your Motiv arsenal my choices would be Pride, Pride Empire, Carbide Tank, Jackal Ghost, Forge Ember and Venom Shock. Let's see how I fair...................Ok first off I have a Pride and absolutely love that ball, I know it's not in the current line up and I don't care! I do like your picks but I'm a bit straighter and on the left. So my stuff is cleaner with some back end. Good stuff sir!
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
The pride was great if you could see it right. Like an asymmetric Forza
@mrsatan2229
@mrsatan2229 9 ай бұрын
Sniper, yellowjacket tank, blue coral venom, venom shock, primal shock, and the new sky raptor here.
@PurpleHammers
@PurpleHammers Жыл бұрын
Teasing me as I wait for the Brunswick Ep!!
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
67 choices it was hard to narrow down!
@lonestarpatriot876
@lonestarpatriot876 17 күн бұрын
My Arctic Sniper stays true and straight as my spare ball. In defense of Motiv, they are 1 brand rather than several brands owned by 1 company.
@babydriver6860
@babydriver6860 Жыл бұрын
Another Nice Video, Ben. Great job 👍.
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Christopher68Young
@Christopher68Young Жыл бұрын
Not motiv exclusive but being a lefty I like quite of few of the cores since they match up great for me but the 6 I took was ghost, primal shock, sky raptor, widow hybrid 2.0, venom shock, purple hammer/spare ball. Good luck to who all made it out to Reno!
@Jackal_Blitz
@Jackal_Blitz Жыл бұрын
Solid assessment on all points, Ben. While Motiv's pickins are slim, it does relieve some of the decision fatigue from the equation for you, which I appreciate.
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Decision fatigue is real for sure! I have written down 100 arsenals for myself and I still haven’t picked!
@Bloodth3Butcher
@Bloodth3Butcher Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to tournament bowling in the future. I've only ever bowled in leagues for a year and am working on physical game, but I have really liked Motiv gear. I feel like the Mythic Jackal is a killer ball, but the Sky Raptor I have even used on sports patterns and have really liked it. First ever sports pattern I bowled on I bowled a 229 when I avg 194 on house. I was very impressed.
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Sky raptor is good, but for me it's a little too slow around the corner for being a pearl sym. Similar to the 900 Global Zen, I think some are quicker off the spot, but it's dependent on the individual pour of the ball.
@Bloodth3Butcher
@Bloodth3Butcher Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 I agree with it being slower like the Zen off the spot, but I feel like that's what I need from that ball. The Mythic Jackal is what I use to have the strong right to left in the backend if that's what I need. I drilled the Sky Raptor slightly stronger than my Zen and it helped tremendously imo.
@nothumbbowler1802
@nothumbbowler1802 Жыл бұрын
I have a Carbide and Blue tank. Carbide is much, much earlier. Once Blue Tank has some lane shine, it's a great control ball for sport shot - has been for me. Blue Tank is a bit more of a light oil ball, than an early hook thing for short. But it can be used on both. A month ago in game 2 of a tournament my ball roll was just whippy and uncontrollable. 150 with a bunch of splits. Went to Blue Tank for game 3 and shoot a 267. It's now my first choice ball for tournaments. Carbide Tank is just about the absolute worst house shot ball I have ever thrown. Which it wasn't for. But it's been hard for me to just judge it in practice, that I haven't bothered to bring it to tournaments. I just have no idea what it would do. Unfortunately, when it's not the summer, and sport shot league is not on, I have no opportunity to practice on sport shot. Hopefully it'll work on sport shot when I get a chance to try it.
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Carbide was definitely made for sport shots. If you know the blue tank well, just bring that. Sometimes it’s not about what’s “best” but actually what’s best is what you know.
@petermilder1912
@petermilder1912 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I get your picks and I agree that the Motiv lineup has some holes/limitations when it comes to nationals. I'd make one suggestion. I would replace the Mythic with the Black Venom. Don't get me wrong, I love my Mythic however I feel at nationals, you really don't need it. I feel the Black Venom might be a better choice to control the back end more than the Mythic. I think in minors at nationals it's more about controlling the break point more than getting a ball to hook. There is plenty of hook on those lanes at the stadium. Would love to hear your reaction. I used a Jackal Amush for all of majors and had a really nice look. For minors, I struggled to find a comfortable look. I wish I had a Black Venom but couldn't get my hands on one before our events. Will have it drilled this week. Really like your reviews and content.
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Let's start here. I struggled keeping the Black Venom off this list. That ball is good. But in my own experience, I have put myself in the trap of controlling the pocket with every piece I bring with, and never being able to carry. I'm more of the mindset to bring a couple control options, and a couple that shape the way I am used too in a regular league setting. As friction builds in, I should be able to move into a comfort zone and swing a ball I know will run through the pocket rather than just try to jam slow hooking balls through said friction. The Mythic is a great option to open up the lane, as is the primal shock. Focus on control with the other three, then score with those two. I hope that makes sense.
@TenBack10
@TenBack10 Жыл бұрын
PRIMAL PIN UP/ BLACK PIN UP/ BLACK PIN DOWN/ SHOCK PIN UP/ SHOCK PIN DOWN/ RALLY
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I can dig it.
@ns671fr
@ns671fr 5 ай бұрын
Good picks, with the crimson out now you would replace the mythic
@ns671fr
@ns671fr 5 ай бұрын
Ghost with 1500 to 2000 finish, VS, Crimson, Carbide, and any spare.
@Vinny_fonz_bowls
@Vinny_fonz_bowls Жыл бұрын
I’m bringing the blue tank, coral venom, venom shock, mythic jackal, and pride with the hammer envy Tour as my 6th. I live in the Bay Area so I’ll be driving. Since I’m driving I’ll be bringing another three ball tote and 7-8-9 are undecided still. The gem is a top consideration in case I need a snow tire
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I can dig that mix for sure!
@Caladuun
@Caladuun Жыл бұрын
Not a huge rev bowler, casting over the 2nd arrow for most of my shots, so bringing my tank the Ambush. Practicing on previous years oil patterns, does what I need it to. From there the rest I am bringing (all non Motiv): Storm Crux (my GOAT), 900 Zen, 900 Eternity, my spare ball and...I had planned on the Storm Lock but it's never worked well for me so I might pick up a ball while out there. Any recommendations?
@J9Dalton
@J9Dalton Жыл бұрын
Took Sky Raptor, Primal Shock, Black Venom, Venom Shock, Supra Rally, and Laser Sniper.
@cmminbr3405
@cmminbr3405 Жыл бұрын
I second guess my self a lot. After watching this video along with some others & reading the comments I am questioning my purchase of both the Motiv Ripcord Launch & the Pride Empire at 16lb.. I purchased the Ripcord Launch because I wanted a ball with more length & backend & the alley I bowl at has inconsistent medium to dry lanes causing my Scandal/S to be hard to control. I then impulsively bought the Pride Empire as I wanted to try an asymmetrical ball & it seemed like a good one to start with the low 0.10 int diff. My pro shop also recommended I get them drilled 70x4x20 due to my angular style & speed of 16-18 mph. Is there really much difference between the 2 of them?
@rickshort4902
@rickshort4902 Жыл бұрын
I leave Monday May 15th and i am bringing my Pride @1000, Shock @ 2000, and the Blue Coral @ 3000.
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Best of luck!
@LetsTalkwithIJH
@LetsTalkwithIJH Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, looking for some advice, looking for 2 Motiv balls to add to my current arsenal. Currently have a Jackal Ghost, Venom Shock, Carbide Tank, and Midnight Sniper. As a two handed bowler, what would you recommend to round off my 6 ball arsenal? Thanks!
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Black Venom and Supra Rally.
@christopher7310
@christopher7310 11 ай бұрын
Three ball bag. All Motiv balls. Venom Shock as benchmark... What to pack as a ball up and a ball down ? What Motiv ball for the fresh? What motiv ball for the burn?
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 11 ай бұрын
Black Venom and ExJ Sigma.
@stellaraudioaz
@stellaraudioaz Жыл бұрын
Do you think it's going to be easier or tougher for the lefties in Reno? I'm a MOTIV user and for the most part, lefties can stay in a piece longer. Do you think that picking pieces that are closer together would be best because the transition doesn't happen as fast?
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
From what I hear, the left is really touchy this year. I’d probably flip out the venom shock for the black venom and the ghost for the ambush to have that extra cover strength since you’re all alone.
@stellaraudioaz
@stellaraudioaz Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 that's what I figured. I've got the Jackal Legacy and the Forge Flare for my big, dull sym and asym, I honestly don't think I'll need any kind of pearls. Hybrids with a little surface maybe, like the Trident Horizon or the Forge Ember. I've got my Venom Shock always at 3000 and I'll be getting the Carbide Tank soon and I have the Purple and Dessert Tanks also.
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Don’t be afraid to bring one that makes angle. If it somehow opens up for you, you want to make sure you can maximize carry.
@byronfranek2706
@byronfranek2706 Жыл бұрын
I used the Blue Tank (3.375" x 50) almost exclusively in both Team and D/S.
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a rough idea of your rev rate, tilt and rotation? Also, right handed?
@byronfranek2706
@byronfranek2706 Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 RH slightly rev dominant (roughly 350/16 off hand), 50 AR, 17 AT.
@Zudoarichidoari
@Zudoarichidoari Жыл бұрын
Wonder how a short pin Carbide would be for you considering how it looked pretty bad in your review. Could imagine it just slowly rolling into the pocket with a short pin
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t kill the hook potential on it like that as it’s not really made for house shots. I personally never short pin urethane.
@Jackal_Blitz
@Jackal_Blitz Жыл бұрын
I've been mulling over trying a short pin layout in the near future, but I think the Forge Ember is a much better candidate for it than the Carbide. When bowlers tell you coverstock is 70-80% of the ball reaction, the Carbide is probably closer to 90%. It digs in at your feet, and even with a strong pin, the Gear Core really doesn't flare that much. In my eyes, it's really just there to create some oil ring separation, not to create downlane motion. I honestly don't think you'd see much difference between a normal drilling vs a short pin on the Carbide. The Ember, on the other hand, appears more balanced to me. The Detonator Core is angry AF and immediately wants to start pummeling the lane when you roll it, but the cover on the Ember is suuuper slow off the friction. Again, this is just the way I see it, but the Ember is kind of the same shape idea as urethane and MCP, just a lot more of it. It digs in early, stabilizes slowly, and just rolls off the friction. And that is exactly what you want a short pin layout to do.
@mikeseabrook3380
@mikeseabrook3380 Жыл бұрын
Would you leave the Mythic Jckal at box finish?
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@ryanreid5859
@ryanreid5859 Жыл бұрын
More doesn't mean better. Brunswick has so much over lap they have the same balls with different names
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I never implied better, but more options does inherently mean more bases are covered. Less gaps in the line overall. Whether the options are better or worse is up to you.
@timothymcdonald5987
@timothymcdonald5987 Жыл бұрын
Vip
@bowlersparadise2255
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe that was an option at the time of shooting this video. Had it been, I would have picked it.
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