And we thought the fake news was a recent thing

the media is truly the devil, it giveth and it taketh away. a media star is at the whim of the supernova that is the publics derision. The power that you allow those who would call themself "journalist" is almost absolute if you court their attention or are drawn to it.

There is a TV movie about him!

@@bostonblackie9503 Do you recall the title? I'd like to see it.

It was blew journalism that got him

i had no idea either- and that is a pretty impressive resume. i feel so much sadness for him.

Sad what happened to Fatty.He mentored Chaplin and Keaton? Amazing!

For sure! I had seen some footage and thought that he was using their material, to think he was the genius. All the footage here was HILARIOUS!

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but whoever made the video grossly exaggerated that part. Chaplin was already famous in his own right when he started working alongside Arbuckle in the same studio, and the two didn't like each other very much (they had very different personalities). As for Keaton, he was already a famous vaudeville performer and Arbuckle simply helped him make the transition to film. If both credited Arbuckle as a positive influence it was more due to the fact that he preceded them, and in Keaton's case their friendship was also a big part of the equation. That doesn't make Arbuckle's career any less impressive, but some people just like to exaggerate things to make them sound more exciting.

But he not round to see it

Was just about to comment this. I really hope someone does, too.

There were talks of Preston Lacy from Jackass portraying him in a movie of his life story. I don't know what happened with that.

Chris Farley didn't have the talent to play Roscoe Arbuckle.

I agree with you.

Here's a few choices of who I think would play Roscoe Arbuckle in a biopic. 1. James Corden 2. Patton Oswalt 3. Danny DeVito 4. Nathan Lane 5. Wayne Knight

i remember watching that i believe roscoe had saved her from a wild dog and her mother(?) or some other woman grabbed jean and scowled at him

I enjoyed the duo between Mabel and Roscoe. I believe it was Mabel Normand who got Roscoe into the scene and vouched for him from the getgo. She was one of the leaders of her time in the silent film era. They even had a short silent movie called "Mabel and Fatty Viewing the World's Fair, at San Fransisco". (Found it, it's here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m6h_mqaJ2bu9ZI0.html )

Actually they survive because Buster rescued them from the basement of a house he owned just before the stock detriorated.

Maude Delmont... Excuse my language, but what a f****** b****!

@@rufust.firefly2474You are so right, I want to say that too about this f**** b****!

From what I understand, Delmont crashed the party. Arbuckle is probably one of the few Hollywood men she wasn't blackmailing, which might be why she decided to blame him for Virginia's death. The whole thing smells of a criminal abortion. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5iknaaZyZyalGw.html

@@thesisypheanjournal1271 I had read the woman who died had an illegal (at the time) abortion that day. Complications from that event killed her. Mr. Arbuckle did nothing wrong

@@K.Spade7902 That's what I think. If you follow the link to my video I explain why this is the explanation that makes the most sense.

Read the same thing in a huge book of true crime I had It did state though that Roscoe was innocent however

"Worked for Pinkertons" is all I need to know that Hammett was a lying scumbag. The Pinkertons are the worst.

To be fair the thing with Hollywood was probably the reason why people were willing to believe what was said about the guy. Had it been true it wouldn't have been that surprising. Granted what definitely isn't surprising is how bad the media have been thanks to people like Hearst.

we just love to tear down heroes...

It was more what the media told them to believe, that hasnt changed either

Amazing how over a century later the media hasn't changed at all!

CobraDBlade It's cases like this where there should be some law to protect the falsely accused where the media is involved. I know there's freedom of the press, but slander and Cancel Culture's been taking some ugly turns.

@@jenneacubero1036 Falsely accused? The guy who accused Obama of being born in Kenya became president. Give me a f*** break

Not to mention the presstitutes in the media.

The most likely scenario is that Virginia Rappe died from an abortion that Maude Delmont had helped to arrange. Delmont is the one who arranged for Virginia to be taken to Wakefield Hospital, where they performed an illegal autopsy and threw away her reproductive organs. I'd love to find out who else had been availing themselves of Wakefield and thus had reason to cover up for them by throwing Roscoe under the bus. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5iknaaZyZyalGw.html

The most damaging weapon a man has is their Tongue..

@@idkwhoknew908 Grandpa on the Munsters said a woman's tear is powerful stuff, when he carefully put three drops in a magic love potion.

I feel robbed that i wasnt exposed to this mans amazing talent They never played his films. Terrible

Very true, but politics has a lot to do with it. Chaplin is rightly famous for his on-screen work and historical importance to the development of film entertainment. His too often obsessive methods, his personality and his chasing underage females (he was tried but the jury acquitted) are ignored because the intellectual class loves his somewhat hypocritical class warfare, Stalin wasn't so bad, politics.

@@jackmorrison7379 You are both forgetting Arbuckel was up on a murder/rape charge for the death of Virgina Rappe. How does "genius" fir into that?

Hollywood slammed door on his career and life. He banned 4 ever

Neither had enough agility and dexterity to equal Arbuckle; no one his size does. His nephew Al St. John was a terrific physical actor as well.

@@MrTruckerf I haven't yet watched Roscoe's films, so I don't know how athletic he was. I have a vague notion that /maybe/ D. Boon might have fit, if only he was: into acting as well as being a musician, and if he didn't die at 27 from a rear axle failure in a van. He could move about on stage a good bit, but I don't know *how much:* he was the singer, he had to be by the microphone.

John Candy was too. Preston Lacy and later Eric Stonestreet also had biopics on him in the works at some point.

Wow. Did not know that.

@@HatsOffEntertainment so did Belushi. The movie has been in development hell for the longest time.

@@HatsOffEntertainment As much as I love John Candy, I think Chris Farley would have been a better fit for the role. Chris looks like Roscoe and had the physical comedy talent.

+Funk Yeah I so highly agree.

I mean Arbuckle did help them launch their film careers so they did have gratitude towards him

I've read that Buster wanted to testify to defend Roscoe's reputation, but he was advised against it. Buster couldn't testify anyway because he wasn't at the party in question.

That’s the goal! Cheers!

@@HatsOffEntertainment Here's that DVD set you spoke longingly of. [kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMiWeKudssfXlH0.html] Dunno if its in print...

Fancy meeting you here! 😁

I don't think he knows who you are mr big.

@@pod9538 I'm not sure Mrs. Big Car knows who I am!

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed.

It’s not about them believing the blackmailer: just as with the press today, a shocking headlines sells papers. Nowadays, however, someone like Roscoe would have a very strong chance of suing the media outlets for defamation, so something of this magnitude would be far less likely to happen. At the time a headline about one of the world’s biggest stars going to the gallows - an extension of a guilty verdict - made far better front-page copy than ‘known blackmailer makes another story up’. So even though they knew it was nonsense, they simply didn’t care. The fact that religious groups were simultaneously trying to censor what they saw as profane entertainment didn’t help, either. This kind of underlines my cynicism with religion, because ultimately these groups should have been able to overlook Roscoe’s ‘sinful’ profession and support him with respect to the lies and deceit that was being thrown at him, rather than using him as a poster boy and hammering nails into his coffin. The one heartwarming thing in all this was the dignity shown by the jurors, who were presented with all the evidence and were clearly horrified that this event had ever been allowed to reach the court. The speech they wrote still resonates with me, and it reassures me that despite all the shit that goes on in the world, there will always be good people.

Ms. Normand gets the short end of the stick historically speaking as well. She was a true pioneer of early American cinema and an outstanding comedienne.

I believed everything until... 'They Got Away With Murder'.. Roscoe Fatty Arbuckle And The Death Of Virginia Rappe,

@@teegee0 I saw that video too. A load of rubbish. The facts are well known. His accuser was Maud Delmont, so unreliable that the prosecution never called her as a witness. Imagine that , the very person who pointed the finger at Arbuckle was never asked to testify.

That’s wonderful to hear!

I think the big thing with Buster was that he took it a step up to being something that could have killed him. I remember hearing crew walked off in protest or at least just couldn’t bear to watch it happen.

Now I see where the Stooges got a lot of their gags.

Thanks so much!

Virginia Rappe was found dead in HIS hotel room, she had a lot of bruises and so I understand why people still think he raped and murdered Virginia. But the court found him innocent. Just a horrible tragedy

@@fredrikalarsson3962 Miss Rappe died in a hospital four days after the party. She did not die in the hotel. She was conscious at times during her suffering, and never accused Mr. Arbuckle of attacking her in any way.

And the fact that we even have access to them is the greatest thing

Yes, the early silent films and early sound comedies were superior than most of the 'comedies' today. Think of Arbuckle, Chaplain, Lloyd, Langdon and Laurel and Hardy.

@@DwayneIsKing Indeed. I read somewhere that estimates are that roughly 3/4 of all films made are lost forever. Truly a shame. I think there was a Warner Bros. studio fire that did the most damage.

@@mikewrasman5103 and Ben Turpin.

So true....

"False allegations"? He was found in a room with a naked woman who it was later found had evidence of sexual assault. Just because he was acquitted doesn't mean he didn't do it. It just means the evidence they had wasn't good enough for beyond a reasonable doubt.

When you are the best payed actor of your times? Bad things that never happened will be believed by millions because of humans, (Rest in peace Roscoe, I still watch you on a regular basis)

@@gladspooky9455 "Acquittal is not enough." Statement by jury. Did you not watch the video?

@@gladspooky9455 Lol “just because he was acquitted doesn’t mean he did not do it”- Yes it does it means exactly that. There was no evidence of sexual assault . You are getting your information from the lies that had been printed at the time. His accuser was Maud Delmonte, so unreliable that the prosecution never called her as a witness. Also lots of people had been in the room he was having a party.

@@thefairhairedboywiththered2951 they also had tainted they put the victim on trial. Something happened look at the autopsy photos. There was bruises, the bladder was damaged by external force.

Very surprised nobody's mentioned how much Oliver Hardy looked like him, bowler hat n everything! He definitely inspired Laurel and Hardy! You just need to look, and magically, you don't even have to listen. Brilliant! Go Fatty! 😊

Not saying what happened to him was right because it wasn't. But Arbuckle was alcoholic and drug addict. He was a known morphine and codeine addict and was spending 1200 Dollars a day on cocaine. I think that had more to do with his heart attack then a broken heart. That ant the stress he suffered having his career destroyed by Hearst and Hollywood, losing all of his money and the stress he suffered because of it. If it wasn't for Chaplin and Buster's support morally and financially he wouldn't have made it as long as he did. Buster was giving him 25 percent of his film profits and had it written into his contracts so the couldn't screw him out of it

He was found not guilty far from innocent. He did do something sure not intend of killing but he had wanted rappe for a min. He probably could not perform.

it wasn't a murder, it was accidental

She had a ruptured blater probably from a botch abortion attempt

@@POPPALUVIT80 He crushed her with his weight. As you say, he is far from innocent.

Seeing a fat man move the way he did with such swag was hilarious

Yeah but a woman was found dead in his hotel room

@@fredrikalarsson3962 She did not die in the hotel. She died in hospital days later.

You’re right

There were tons of people destroying Beatles merchandise because John Lennon made an objectively true statement about Jesus' popularity.

Yes but they never destroyed the Beatle's original master recordings. Arbuckle's films didn't have master recordings to make copies of.

I had that same thought. Not far off from the time Patton slapped a bawling soldier (the first snow flake) and they tried to cancel him. 🤡🌎

i guess you missed mccartheyism day in history class

@Plastic Icon 2 - Freewheeling Gunslinger Edition yeah bro youtube keeps deleting my accounts lately its annoying af!

+Rufus T.Firefly I own the vitaphone shorts collection volume 1.

I appreciate all the vitamins shorts. It's really cool that they become available and in such nice shape. Of the earlier one I would suggest anybody also look up Trixie friganza,, the Fantastic Billy Jones and Ernest Hare, certainly Al Jolson in Plantation Act going to see which I remember being lost as hell for many years and they finally put it together from a disc that has been broken in four pieces!) as well as the many other Bonneville pieces that have been preserved so Faithfully by the Warner archive and other film institutions.

I noticed Shemp was in one of his come back films.

I absolutely 100% agree with you there. John Candy even sounded like Arbuckle! But perhaps Chris Farley had more of the youthful physical strength to pull off some bits.

Don't underestimate Chris Farley

+Vic I disagree strongly.

Both were equally funny but I personally think John was more talented than Chris. Just my opinion, not stating a fact.

Agreed. Although I enjoyed Chris Farley’s work, from early on, I felt he had a Belushi complex. My opinion, Farley would have been good, Candy would have been great portraying Arbuckle.

Denise Matthews you can type in on KZfaq Fatty Arbuckle movies and his movies will come up. Silent and talking

@@theresaholguin699 Thank you! I will check that out!

@@denisematthews6215 you're welcome. You can also type, silent movies, then many movies pop up also. I watch so many silent movies almost every day. You can also go on Google and type in, list of silent movie stars. And Google will have a list of almost all silent movies stars.