My Poor Man's Ricoh GRIIIx
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Күн бұрынIf you're like me and drooling over the Ricoh GRIIIx but just can't quite squeeze it just yet, then give this setup a look. This is the Panasonic GX1 and the Panasonic 20mm F1.7 lens. Now, you can choose just about any Micro four thirds camera you want, the lens is the real star of the show here. But the GX1 pulls out a lot of detail from that lens and is a good camera in its own right. It's also cheap and compact. A perfect combination.
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@borderlands6606 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest Lumix advantage - you can remove the lens to clean the sensor.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
That is definitely an advantage worth mentioning ;) my GR original is really starting to fill up.
@Fedorevsky 2 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@Screenshot1015 Жыл бұрын
I have gone through eight ricoh GRs (admittedly several older GRDs in that lot) over the last ten years. I basically only shot ricohs or Sony rx100s for about 12 years. Dust and lens motors dying were always what did them in. Even the aps-c sensor models had about the same failure rate. I fix machines for a living and I got very comfortable disassembling ricohs for sensor cleaning but inevitably the ribbon cables begin to wear and then you start losing random button functions. Eventually I ended up cannibalizing parts from some GRs to keep other GRs working and when I finally killed my last one (about a month ago) I saw this video and got myself a GX1 and the 14mm 2.5 (also the 7artisans ufo lens for my pocket) and have essentially eliminated all reliability concerns of the compacts while having arguably more functionality while shooting. It’s been a massive relief.
@MuhammadKharismawan Жыл бұрын
@@Screenshot1015 so do you think a fixed lens camera like Leica Q and Sony Rx1 will have the same lens dust and motor problem? Seeing they have a fixed lens which have no movement to stow their lens inside.
@rico925 6 ай бұрын
I love my GR but I’ve had to clean too much. If Ricoh made a camera the was easily disassembled to clean the sensor I would be a brand loyalist.
@yelonheslindo Жыл бұрын
I loved the photos in the intro to the video. Congratulations on the channel!
@OneMonthTwoCameras 2 жыл бұрын
The Panasonic 20 mm is still my favorite all-time lens believe it or not. Slow to auto focus as a lens does not have a great motor but just an optical jewel and the only lens in my micro 4/3 kit that I will never part with.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
I can definitely believe that after using it. It's one of the best lenses I've used on any system optically.
@taylorbrawner2052 2 жыл бұрын
I sold mine a few months ago with an ep2 body and am regretting it now 😢
@OneMonthTwoCameras 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorbrawner2052 noooooo!
@kamilpotato3764 2 жыл бұрын
As long as it paired with Panasonic body. On Oly body it can have severe banding issues when shooting low light with higher iso.
@hannomatt 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned the mark 1 version of this lens for 10 years and I love it to this day, I use it on Olympus bodies, no problems with that.
@earlfenwick 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine showed me pictures from one of these back in the day when it was new and I have never quite recovered. Beautiful!
@stevieb7121 Жыл бұрын
The GX1 is a much underrated/ignored camera that can produce excellent results. I love using this camera despite having other more up to date options to choose from.
@goodmythicalmukbang3757 2 жыл бұрын
I used to rock that exact same setup!! Oh man that takes me back!
@taylorbrawner2052 2 жыл бұрын
Love this idea. Those old m43 cameras are really great.
@SokolHazizi 2 жыл бұрын
It looks really good! First time for me seeing this camera, and I am really blown away.
@kennyj604 2 жыл бұрын
Love my 20mm. Mated with my GX7. Always fun to use.
@darwinwins Жыл бұрын
the best part of this line of cameras is that the flash swivels up and down making for an excellent bounce flash in closed spaces.
@thissidetowardscreen4553 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the style and look of the photos! I think we forgot how good past cameras are even though they do not meet "todays" specs.
@scottsfowler 2 жыл бұрын
Totally true, i never buy a camera less than 7 years old since the lenses make more of a difference than the body in most situations. I am convinced that 90-95% of people cannot tell the difference between a 7 year old camera vs a brand new camera, especially if the photos are posted online! People aren't looking at the meta-data to decide whether or not to like a photo!!
@jwootang 2 жыл бұрын
Had a GX1 a while back. Had fun with it
@denniscrommett 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. In fact (and I plan to post on the forum about this), I'm trying Micro 4/3 for the first time; coming this week is an Olympus E-M10 and the Panasonic 20mm f1.7. I've seen some samples that just blow me away; color-wise especially. Anyway, great plan and another great video!
@denniscrommett Жыл бұрын
Replying to my own comment here, I thought I’d note that while I really liked the E-M10 in almost every way, what ended up making me sell it was that when using auto ISO, you can’t set a minimum shutter speed. I’m just very used to using that from my Fujis.
@andrewbaxter9395 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! Great set up for family shots and walking around. The lens itself has notoriously slow AF but if you can live with it the rendering, bokeh and colours it can produce are fantastic for the money.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, so it's more the lens than the body. It felt pretty slow.
@shred3005 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 and it’s a very nice little lens. AF is decent on a 6 yo Olympus OM10 but the lens isn’t a ‘flat’ as the 20mm but that’s ok. I just wish the body was nicer to shoot with. I’ve never fallen in love with 4/3 system except for size.
@hannomatt 2 жыл бұрын
@@snappiness Yes, it is the lens. It also hunts quite a bit in low light on my Oly bodies. But I love it none the less!
@duanestanton3738 Жыл бұрын
I happen to have that setup, it’s very good, never thought compared to other cameras. Bout this system back when it came out.
@abchappell01 Жыл бұрын
What an excellent idea 😊
@yesteryearcameras 2 жыл бұрын
The lens is very good, I've owned it in combination with the GM1, which looks very funny. A few month ago, a was looking for the exact combo like your's. Nice to see it now :D like always, great job!
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
That GM1 looks tiny!
@domtomazo 2 жыл бұрын
Great combo and I think this is where micro four thirds shines. I have used the combo shown here, but in the end I went for and kept the Olympus E-P5 and 17/1.8 combo that would be quite similar in terms of size, age etc.. also has the optional EVF.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
How does the 17mm/1.8 compare then?
@domtomazo 2 жыл бұрын
@@snappiness I like both lenses, very useful combination of small size, large aperture, general purpose focal length. I never did a technical side-by-side, but have used both quite a lot (20/1.7 2014-2018 and 17/1.8 from 2019-). Optically I think both are good, without any major flaws. Bokeh highlights on the 20/1.7 can be a bit highlighted sometimes - not too distracting to my eyes. The bokeh on the 17/1.8 can be a bit busy though, a kind of "double bokeh" effect at close focus - my only real complaint of that lens. For build quality the Olympus is for sure the better lens. Full metal construction, manual focus clutch, fast and silent AF. Slightly larger and heavier though. In the end I think they fill the same need and are both "good enough" (with a large margin), and I would go for Panasonic lens on Panasonic body, and same for Olympus. Feels more right so :)
@raksh9 2 жыл бұрын
That viewfinder is not bad at all, it also fits the Panasonic LX7. Not only does it tilt, but it has a retaining button that stops it from being pushed off the camera by accident. Now I'm curious about getting a GX1!
@mistergiovanni7183 Жыл бұрын
love that you have rescued the GX1 and even more that you have been encouraged to compare it with the "queen of the streets". Yes, it is true that it is APS-C, faster focus, better dynamic range, but you condemn yourself to using a single focal length and, on top of that, you make sure you have dust on the sensor in short time. There are other cameras on your channel that could well replace the GR and save you a lot of money. Happy photos and trails.
@tosvus Жыл бұрын
It's actually 4/3 sensor so a bit smaller than aps-c, but that probably evens out pretty well as his Panasonic lens is brighter than on the Ricoh. The Ricoh is only a single focal length as well.... dust could be a factor, but at least with detachable lenses you can clean the sensor pretty easily.
@glsracer Жыл бұрын
I have since moved on in the M43 world and primarily use a GX85, G95, or G9 depending on the situation. The GX1 was my first M43 camera and I bought it in late 2012 or early 2013. It was and is an excellent camera and I used it as a compact travel solution for years with a 14 f/2.5 attached. Single point AF is quite fast even when compared to newer models so long as the lens is capable, C-AF is a bit dated. In your case the AF slowness is due to the 20 f/1.7 which has a slow motor and doesn't support C-AF, even on the newest Lumix bodies. As you reported, it is still an amazingly sharp lens and is my go to for portable setups along with the 14 f/2.5 and 12-32 f/3.5-5.6. M43 is really an amazing system. You can be out with a GX1, GM5, or GX85 and a compact prime or zoom one day, and photographing a wedding the next day with a G9 and G95 plus a PL10-25, Oly 40-150 f/2.8, and a couple fast f/1.4 primes.
@nikytamayo Жыл бұрын
This is, bar none, my favorite lens of all time. The 40mm equivalent focal range puts it right in the sweet spot between portrait photography and street photography. Mine has survived through four different M4:3rds bodies, and while I'm muling selling the GX1X (getting old due to wear and tear), I'm keeping the lens against the possibility of getting a smaller M4:3 body later on.
@cosecaduteperterra 7 ай бұрын
fully agree, I have Canon L primes, Leica lenses... but this small panny is a perfect mixture of perfect ingredients. Fav lens of all times. It's a lens I'm never ever going to sell
@mortenthesbl5535 2 жыл бұрын
Thx again for great videos - you just have the best pace and its a joy to watch and listen to. Thinking the GM5 is also a very good alternative - it has EVF built in!
@donsnow4564 Жыл бұрын
I've had this camera since release. Was primarily my back up but I love it paired with my Canon fd 24mm 2.8. It's my go everywhere camera now. Always in ny car for the impromptu moments.
@bobamarmstrong 2 жыл бұрын
Wooo this camera is amazing
@vaidehiarts 2 жыл бұрын
The GX85 is somewhat heavier, but incredibly versatile. That paired with 12 mm f2 Oly, 15 mm 1.7 and 20 mm 1.7 makes a dream street setup without breaking the bank
@Fedorevsky 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! That's the camera I rock too for street photography.
@martingreenberg870 Жыл бұрын
@@Fedorevsky I too have and use this body. It sports IBIS that I love. I use the Panny-Leica 15mm lens. The video on this body is very good but there is no audio Jack. Bummer. The dynamic B&W setting gives great contrast. It is more expensive than the GX1 as it is new. It also has an EVF. Mask On Nurse Marty
@borislebeau524 Жыл бұрын
Got exactly the same set up since 2014, still use it everyday. In fact I have 2 GX1 the other one has the 14-42 fixed on it.
@northof-62 2 жыл бұрын
That viewfinder is the icing on the cake! Just brilliant and huge. I love Sigma's 30mm too on these cameras.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Cool that it's an option! The Ricoh GXR had an EVF option (which I now own too, by the way) but for some reason they stopped for the later GR series. Seems like there's at least some demand.
@northof-62 2 жыл бұрын
@@snappiness I see. How do they compare? I have the GX7 as well. Much smaller image in the viewfinder and no option for the LVF2 there, sadly. But at it's tiltable and that's a bonus..
@misteragb7558 Жыл бұрын
I just swapped my old Lumix 25mm for a 20mm and I'm blown away by the sharpness wide open and the character of the bokeh (I would expect really clinical boring bokeh) but it looks like that of a vintage lens... In my opinion this lens has the best of both worlds when it comes to modern and vintage performance
@pirhan 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Sony Cybershot F828 because of your channel. Really looking forward to trying it. (Especially the infrared.)
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I hope it treats you as well as mine has. I've really gotten such a kick out of it. And very good image quality given the age and only 8mp.
@d30gaijin 2 жыл бұрын
My GR alternative is an Olympus Pen Mini EPM-1 with a Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 lens. It's a 12 mp camera but those 12mp pack a lot of punch. It's even smaller than the GR. I have also been using the Pen Mini with the new Pergear 10mm f/8 lens, making for an even smaller package. The Pergear is a mild fisheye that is easily defished in post. It's an excellent tiny combo.
@scottsfowler 2 жыл бұрын
Robin Wong just made a video 'Ricoh GR III Alternative For $150 - Is It Good Enough?' using that exact setup. Although it obviously doesn't directly compare to the GR III, I do think it is a worthy budget alternative, especially for someone who wants to try out super stealthy street photography, someone who is just getting into photography, or someone who just wants a very pocketable camera for travel!!
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool small camera!
@Gustavostarke Жыл бұрын
I just bought a GX1 and 20mm lenses in craigslist. I’m very happy.
@snappiness Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@jianfeiwang1654 2 жыл бұрын
I love the IQ and the compactness of 20/1.7, however I missed too many shots because of its AF speed, so I replaced it with DG15.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
That's understandable, the AF is really quite slow...
@timatwater8247 Жыл бұрын
I use hyperfocal focus, set lens to manual focus at maybe 10 feet, use aperture priority at maybe f8, focus is roughly 5 feet to infinity. I've found the manual focus point remains the same after restarts too at least on the GX1 and E-PM2 but good to double check now and then.
@JensMHA Жыл бұрын
It is a very nice combo, the AF on the 20 is slow, possibly one of the slowest in the whole M43 system along with the Olympus 17 mm f:2.8. You can get both the III and the IIIX on the one GX1, just add the Lumix 14 mm f:2.5 to the 20mm. The 14mm adds about 50 grams to you load-out. It is the smallest proper lens for that system out there, excluding the lens like Olympus 9 and 15 mm Body Cap Lenses, which are more towards the toy-lens segment. :-)
@dimasnameee23 Жыл бұрын
My favorite on the go camera
@vivangreco1710 Жыл бұрын
I've been shooting micro four thirds for more than a decade, and there are so many "obsolete" bodies available for so little cash. My favorite film cameras for street photography are the Canonets with the 40mm 1.7 lens, so the 20 1.7 Panny lens feels right at home.
@KankukanAiki 2 ай бұрын
You have in me a new subscriber!
@kcphotogeek6207 2 жыл бұрын
Heard a lot of good things re the GX1 I’d recommend the GX80/5 also I’ve taken some of my favorite street shots with that paired with the 15mm & 25mm f1.7 lenses. That camera takes lovely 4K too I’ve seen it for as cheap as 250USD recently, about 12000php here in the Philippines. The 20mm is an interesting gap in my mft collection but reckon I’ll get the 25 f1.4 instead
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds sweet. I had the G85 (maybe you saw that, blinked and you would've missed it, haha). I bought it as my standalone video camera so I didn't have to keep using my Pentax's, but then sold to help fund my k3III splurge. I always planned to buy it back, but now I think I'll try the GX variant. The main difference for me before was getting a mic input, but now that I record the audio externally it doesn't matter.
@Fedorevsky 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I use the GX80/85 with the 20mm f1.7 II lens for street photography and at family gatherings. I got both in a bundle at a major discount about 2 years ago.
@dave-iq3dq Жыл бұрын
I agree that the GX85 is amazing. I keep going back to GX7 and GX8 with flip up viewfinders. The flip up viewfinder seems useless but it’s great in the sun and remind me of my old 90s camcorders.
@JuanBuhler 2 жыл бұрын
I have the first version of the 20/1.7 (yours is the second version, yes?) and it's one of my favorite lenses ever. The rendering of that lens still makes me smile when I run into an image made with it in Lightroom. I shot it with the GF-1 in a similar setup as yours, and I've been tempted to pick up a newer body just for the 20mm lens. Too many cameras though!
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
After using this lens I can see why. It really is fantastic. Yes, mine is the second version, although I don't know how much that really matters. I can't remember what the updates were but they sounded minimal. I just happened upon this one for a deal so went for it.
@kcphotogeek6207 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no stop it both of you gas enablers before you know it I’ll have the 20mm in my cart 😂
@sdhute 2 жыл бұрын
Those 16mp M43 sensors have alot of personality.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This is my first 16mp m43, I've only used old m43 bodies.
@futc.photography Жыл бұрын
All of your videos are gonna make me buy a compact camera sooner or later 😂
@youngThrashbarg 2 жыл бұрын
For me the "poor mans" version was Canon Eos M with 22mm f2 lens. Thanks to all the reviewers focusing on the poor auto focus, I was able to get a camera that produces nice image quality.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
That Canon M series just seems to fly under the radar and doesn't get much attention. Nice find, sounds like a great setup.
@andreasphotiou1886 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me (sort of). I have an M100, having previously owned an M10. They are fantastic, underrated cameras.
@yesteryearcameras 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me too, the original m and the 22mm is such a nice combo! Very underrated.
@RonScibilia Жыл бұрын
I'm also a fan of the EOS M line. The original M is good; so are the M100 and M200. And there's the Ricoh GR II, used; that's an excellent camera if you are OK with a fixed lens.
@cinemafia Жыл бұрын
The 20/1.7 is a deservedly-lauded lens. I had one for years, and although I’ve since replaced it with the Oly 17/1.8, I miss how light & pancakey the Panny was. Along with m4/3 I’ve also shot with the confusingly-named Ricoh GR ‘digital’ IV, and it was a fantastic camera that I got some great shots out of, but I was a clutz and managed to destroy it on a trip to London. I’d love to try the new GR III but the price is just…yeah.
@GetOffMyyLawn 2 жыл бұрын
I have had the G1, GF1, GX1 and GX85. If I were buying one now, the GX85 would be the choice... it has a 16mp sensor with no AA filter, image stabilization, and really good 4k video (not so much audio) and a built in viewfinder (not the best, but it works). Also the built in flash can be pulled back to bounce off a ceiling which is an underrated feature. Another great travel lens is the kit 12-32.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
That is the camera I am thinking to replace my video setup. I had overlooked it before because no audio jack, but now I record my audio off a different recorder anyway so it doesn't matter. Looks like a nice compact camera with some really nice features.
@boerge0712 Жыл бұрын
Ich habe auch eine GX80 (so heisst die europäische Variante, in Japan GX7 Mark II) und ich liebe sie! Ich habe sie im einem sehr guten Zustand gebraucht gekauft. Mit dem 12-32 und dem 35-100mm (nicht die 2.8 Varianten, dafür sind sie winzig) für schlanke 325€. Dazu das Panasonic 25mm 1.7 - ein grandioses Reiseset!
@jovandevijver9400 2 жыл бұрын
My poor man's GRIIIX is a GXR with the A12 50mm. I bought it on a flee market, it was a bargain. I'm happy with it!
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to find a bargain on one of those! I also have the A12 50mm. Very nice lens and sensor too.
@LeeIveson 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! That 20mm f1.7 sure does produce lovely images as demonstrated here mate. I'm going to say my "poor mans" equivalent is the Canon M100, I need to pick up the 22mm f2 lens to complete it though. There's something so satisfying about being able to carry a super small setup around, it opens up lots of intermit photo opportunities.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I keep hearing from Canon M owners - that the 22mm f2 is a keeper.
@andreasbuder4417 Жыл бұрын
The Canon M100 is THE sleeper in general. I picked my three copies for 100€ each by carefully looking. 24MP APS-C and a snappy AF, even in video.
@LeeIveson Жыл бұрын
@@andreasbuder4417 Its great! I use the M100 & my Hero 5 for my YT videos.
@martingomez7502 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my first M43 this year buying a cheap Lumix G9. I was so impressed by the lenses. I was also able to find a olympus ep-1 for £30 and a ep-3 for £60. The Olympus colours are amazing (not as good as Fuji). I'm on the look out for an Olympus ep-5 now which I think will be better than a Lumix GX1
@martingreenberg870 Жыл бұрын
I also have the G9. A very powerful body. The video is stellar. It has interchangeable lens capability so if you don’t like the 28 or 40 equivalent focal lengths of the GRiii or iiiX you can pick your poison. The G9 has a super EVF. The video is better and has great IBIS.The thing is the body is as large as a DSLR. As such, the G9 is not pocketable. This is one killer feature of the GR. As suggested above, the GX85 is my choice. The GX 90 or 95 will both do. Of course these bodies are much more expensive than the GX1. Mask On Nurse Marty
@earlofmar11 11 ай бұрын
I also have this lens and love it, also because 40mm equivalent is my favourite angle of view. I also own the very compact GM5 which has the advantage of a built in electronic viewfinder, which makes it a really compact combo (also with the 12-32 very compact zoom that came with the GM5, or the 14mm f/2.5.
@lgude 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the 20mm LUMIX is my favourite street lens. Gets me just close enough in most situations. I use it with a GX 85 because the built in Eye level viewfinder is a must for me. I have an Oly accessory viewfinder and an EPL 7, but the separate viewfinder is too fiddly for me in a camera I’m going to pull out Of a pocket. I also use the 12-32 LUMIX pancake zoom which adds versatility at the expense of lens speed and my overall favourite the 14mm LUMIX pancake for walking around cameras. In short, All the pancakes are worth exploring on your camera.
@petermach8635 2 жыл бұрын
I gave up earning my living from photography after a satisfying quarter century career when digital came along, I was a wet process person and digital felt cold and impersonal. Last year I finally bought a digital camera and after much thought settled on a Panasonic GX9 ..... there's far more to life than megapixels and it does way more than I need but it does what I need very well indeed, along with the 20mm f1.7 that I bought as my prime lens ..... I wanted one "do it all" lens while I learnt about the camera .... and the lens is truly excellent for something so compact and reasonably priced, I can't recommend it too highly.
@PaulWilkinson 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of micro four thirds. The sensor may be quite a bit smaller than APSC but they provide excellent image quality. I bought the Panasonic GM1 a couple of months back and paired it with my Olympus 17mm 2.8 pancake. There's no viewfinder but that doesn't bother me. It's so tiny, I can just get it into the side pocket of my jeans, it fits in the back one easily though. The GM1 is really small, without a lens, it's smaller than a pack of cigarettes but it's superb. It's got a brilliant touch screen and it focuses really fast to. To many people are hung up on big sensor camera's and don't consider M43, however, I think everyone should own at least one! 🙂
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's exactly right - for some reason the sensor size throws people off. That GM1 sounds super fun!
@PaulWilkinson 2 жыл бұрын
@@snappiness It is, if I get a chance, I'll pop on the forum later with some black and white images from it. I still use my Panasonic LX100 too which also has a M43 sensor inside, it's also got a damn sharp lens on it! I'd like to see more company's join M43 (and a phone manufacturer too 😍)
@RobertLeeAtYT 2 жыл бұрын
I have this setup. Only difference is that my is in 90’s silver. It’s been retired for a couple of years now. I’ve since moved to its successor by a few generations, the GX-85. Pick on up if you come across one at a good price. It’s a worthwhile upgrade. The main advantage is the in-body stabilization. That and a fast lens like the 20mm f1.7 makes for a wonderful pairing. The built-in viewfinder reduces bulk. 4k video is good. Focus peaking makes using manual and adapted old lenses a better experience than on the body those were originally meant for. No need for align a central patch or split prism; no need to focus and recompose. Compose and do so with the aperture closed down. Have what you want to be sharp show the peaking outline. That also directly shows you what the depth of field is.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
I had the g85 for a while for video and loved it. It was a short time though because I sold it to fund a fancy purchase. I went with the g85 over the gx so I could have a mic port, but now I record my audio externally so it doesn't matter. That compact gx85 looks very nice. I always planned to pick it back up for my main video camera again.
@markstoker3077 2 жыл бұрын
Oh James, you've just fed my GAS illness! I now need that 20mm lens. I don't just want it, I NEED it!!
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Haha - oh dear 😟 It really is something else though.
@ulfjonsson2122 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I use 2 GF1:s vith 14 and 20 mm lenses, and one E-P1 with 17/1,8 lens. Love the output of all 3. I also use a pair of GX7:s and a GX8 with other lenses, love them too! / Regards Ulf
@Fedorevsky 2 жыл бұрын
For street photography I use the Lumix GX80/85 with the Lumix 20mm f1.7 II lens. Very similar set up. I believe it's the same 16mpx sensor.
@molnarandrassandor3448 2 жыл бұрын
I recently bough an Olympus Pen EP3 with the Panasonic 12-32 pancake lens as a run around camera for 170 EUR on mpb, it is great. And I can use the lens from my Oly EM1 on it too!
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
that 12-32 is tiny! Nice compact setup.
@scottsfowler 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Panasonic 12-32, although i don't use it much since i have an Olympus 12-40 f2.8 Pro, but every once in a while when I don't want the weight and bulk of the 12-40 Pro, I take the Panny!!
@collagen1738 2 жыл бұрын
would wanna see a video about my camera: the ricoh caplio gx100. It's pretty cool, it's like a GRD II with a zoom lens. great video as usual, and hello from New Jersey.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to grab a gx100 or gx200 one of these days. @Juan Buhler picked up a gx200 recently for his channel. He takes great photos and shares them there.
@howardtowler6146 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about the camera. But the 20mm Lumix lens is very underrated.its an absolute gem
@kevinlui8601 2 жыл бұрын
The 1st version is notorious for slow AF. Is the newer version improved? Would you suggest this lens if my subjects are toddlers and family pets?
@BillWhitworth 2 жыл бұрын
I still keep an Oly EPM2 with the Pan 20mm in my bag for the same purpose.
@amirulhakim2858 2 жыл бұрын
GX800/GF9 + 20mm f1.7 is the perfect for me 4k Tilt Display Compact
@theMF69 Жыл бұрын
Just bought the Olympus OMD EM-10 Mkii M4/3 as a secondary for street photography and the autofocus is very snappy, it has an EVF built in, vibration reduction, and a tilting screen all for £160 ($191) and takes crystal clear shots with the 40mm prime lens I bought for it, it had a few dead pixels when I bought it but since it has pixel mapping that wasn't an issue.
@snappiness Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@OneHarp 10 ай бұрын
I had a GM5 with that 20mm. It was a great combo. I have both a GRiii and iiix now. The GRiiix is about 30% better IQ, and I love the pop out lens and better controls....
@jamilor 22 күн бұрын
I have this exact setup. The 20mm lens is slow to focus and borderline unusable for video, but that’s not what this setup is for anyways. The important thing is the lens takes absolutely beautiful pictures.
@traintrambus 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Fuji XA3 with the 27mm Fuji as an alternative. The Fuji camera is a bit quirky but takes decent apsc image. The Fuji camera is not so practical as the Panasonic camera being built for the point and shoot Market but if you know how (using it in manual being the best option) you can get super pics. Interesting video.
@kevinmarkham6385 Жыл бұрын
love your channel, i'm trying to find an older/cheaper compact/point and shoot camera with good autofocus as a backup camera. The problem with most of them is the autofocus is bad.
@ssthapit 2 жыл бұрын
20mm/1.7 is a great lens. The only thing that didn't suit me was a slower autofocus speed compared to Olympus 35mm/1.8, which is what I went for. Still long for the 20mm/1.7 though.
@Michaels_Angle 2 жыл бұрын
I use a Lumix DC-ZS70 for street photography and a backup camera - just over 20mp and 30x zoom, Fits pockets well but might feel a bit heavy. I keep it in a case attached to my belt for an everyday carry .
@Michaels_Angle 2 жыл бұрын
And oh yeah - an integrated Leica lens
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome - I love small cameras you can take wherever you go, but still give you the controls and quality over a phone.
@davidharle8794 2 жыл бұрын
I use a GX9 now but still rate the 20mm f1.7 lens the best value micro 4/3 lens . It is not the fastest to autofocus, but it is sharp, almost the perfect all purpose focal length, and amazing value. I have the Olympus 17mm f 1.8, which has better and faster autofocus and is a great lens but it is not the one I choose for street and candid photography. I don’t know quite why, but that’s what works for me!
@the_wiki9408 2 жыл бұрын
You can also snag the 14mm f2.5 and have both a GRIII and GRIIIx alternative. 14mm f2.5 is even smaller and cheaper than the 20mm f1.7. And then instead of the GRIIIx teleconversion adapter, you can pick up an Olympus 45mm f1.8 and have a wide/normal/portrait prime setup for less than the cost of a used GRIII. GX1 is fine, but there are some Olympus alternatives like the E-PM1 or E-PL5 that came with a slightly more modern Sony sensor and IBIS that should not be overlooked.
@frankartale1026 2 жыл бұрын
I just got the ep1 w/20mm 1.7 for $150 and it is great. Pretty fast. Very sharp. Very very good value and its smaller than my x100
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great find, nice one!
@frankartale1026 2 жыл бұрын
@@snappiness i posted it on insta a while ago and i just got a second one with a pentax 110 lens set
@dave-iq3dq Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned this lens a few times and got used to the autofocus but I wonder if just making a newer better focusing version of this lens could almost cause a M4/3 resurgence. Just about all of the other Panasonic lenses focus very quickly for photography.
@snappiness Жыл бұрын
That would solve my only complaint :)
@rickychu0122 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Slow AF because of this LUMIX 20/1.7 lens. Suggest you try the 12-32mm or 14-42mm PZ.
@NeverToBeSeenAgain 2 жыл бұрын
Normally I would be all over ebay right now to try an experience like this, but since getting my MX-1, I haven't felt a desire to use another compact.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
The MX-1 is a really special camera. Nice grab :)
@productguru8323 Жыл бұрын
Is MX1 so good?
@neverknowsbest4994 2 жыл бұрын
that's pretty amazing. i would actually like to see it compared to a high end phones camera though. is it better enough than that?
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Phones are good until you blow up or crop in, and that's where you're going to see major differences. As long as you just view it on your phone screen, I've gotten great shots on my phone.
@timpiotr4857 2 жыл бұрын
There is a comparison on KZfaq between a old Lumix (GF1 I think) and a brand new iPhone. Lumix won hands down.
@timpiotr4857 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8ChiNyJt9yxfYk.html
@Paul_Wetor 2 жыл бұрын
I have two of these, my intro to M43. It is prone to shutter shock at speeds under 1/320 sec. but with a 20mm lens it should be okay.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's interesting, I didn't notice any of that but maybe the lens and maybe just shooting high enough shutter speeds most of the time.
@riveracollazo 2 жыл бұрын
How is the EVF? I have a gx85 that I stopped using because of the small EVF when compared to my E-M1 mkI and I haven't tested Panasonic ever since getting that camera.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have an Olympus EVF to compare - might have to compare the specs. It's the Panasonic LVF2. I found it adequate. It's a neat option, especially for mounting manual glass and manual focusing. Being a GR user, I actually find myself not using it much.
@Zobeid 11 ай бұрын
I had this lens years ago with my Olympus OM-D E-M5, and it was great. However. . . To me the whole point of the GR, anything in the GR series, is being able to carry it in a pocket. If a camera is not pocketable, then it's a different category. And if you are willing to carry an interchangeable-lens camera on a strap, then there are so many possible combinations that would fit the bill.
@protestagain Жыл бұрын
I have the Panasonic GM1 and GM5, with the Pana/Leica 15/1.7. Even a smaller setup and the same sensor.
@CZOV 3 ай бұрын
Most people use GX80/85 and the 15mm 1.7 lens. I went with GX7.
@SkylerKing 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned a ton of cameras over the years, but never this one. I have always been curious about it, though, as it seems to have a cult following (here in Taiwan, anyway). I still see friends posting photos and love letters about this camera. No doubt it shows its age and has a few shortcomings, but it obviously has a certain charm and a lot going for it, as well.
@gordonbrown5901 Жыл бұрын
This setup can also be had with a Fuji X-E1 or 2 or 2s with the Fuji 27mm lens. But the cost will be almost twice the Panasonic though good deals can be found and no need for an EVF add-on. I have the X-E2s/27mm and it's a great informal walk around camera.
@scottsfowler 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a nice little kit. I was thinking about picking up an Olympus PEN series camera for a super small setup. I have an Olympus E-PL5 that's broken and may have to get that up and running somehow. I did try to fix it but ended up making it worse by tearing a ribbon cable in the process I may have to pick up a Panasonic 20mm f1.7 for my Olympus E-M5 Mark II, looks like a really nice lens. I do like my Panasonic 12-32mm (24-62 FF equiv) f3.5-5.6 kit lens, the only Panasonic lens I have, being pleasantly surprised with its performance for a mid-focal range kit lens, and for being mounted on a non-Panasonic body. The auto-focus is super snappy (pun unintended, lol). I never would have thought to buy a Panasonic lens on my own but it came with my E-M5 and now I need more Panny lenses!!
@DavidMBanes 5 ай бұрын
I'm using a Panasonic GX880 with this lens. Put together for the same reasons :). You can also use the Panasonic 14mm lens to get your equiv 28mm.
@paulmcwilliams8641 Жыл бұрын
Stick the lens on a Pan GM5 and you will have a setup that will fit in your pants pocket, but also comes with a small yet functional viewfinder when you need one. I carry mine when I am out with my wildlife shooting Sony A7iv/200-600 combo, just in case I come across something intesting. I use the Pan 14mm for landscapes and an Oly 60mm macro that fit in various pockets of my camouflage jcket.
@codyLady62 Жыл бұрын
I see you haven't mentioned the Nikon P7700. After an eye injury l was looking to pick up a cheap P7800 but not many around and the last one for sale in Australia was sold for close to $300.
@williamgoss4691 25 күн бұрын
Hey, that looks like exactly the camera I’ve bin looking for, am not convinced by the fuji Cams, or the price of them … (the ‘f’ is ‘cheaper’, but the lenses looks quite soft - althu I know some fans say that’s ‘poetic’ or ‘filmic’, but not convinced… And also I really liked your images, so I will investigate further .. Many thanks !!
@jeffslade1892 Жыл бұрын
Alternatively the Olympus E-PL7 with the Lumix 20mm or pancake PZ14-42. And VF4 EVF. Won't quite slip into jeans pocket but will a jacket. With that you get 16Mp and IBIS, and a tilt screen.
@oreziopancrazio3685 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Got a question: are those pic straight out of camera? Tjank you,bye!
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
Some are and some are not. :) I know that's not very helpful, haha.
@SLLYT Жыл бұрын
I'm very satisfied with my Panasonic Lumix GX8 and the 20mm Mark II lens because the combination is compact enough and the performance is excellent. My Ricoh GXR is more compact than the GX8, but its 50mm lens is far bulkier than the Panasonic 20mm Mark II.
@snappiness Жыл бұрын
Agreed. And that sounds like a fantastic combination!
@denniscrommett 2 жыл бұрын
sweet shoutout to agentlossing from the forum!
@user-pb8de6hx7s 3 ай бұрын
Check out the panasonic lx7 and either gm1 or gm 5.
@hertsman5 Жыл бұрын
Nice set up but I would go just that little bit further ( which I did) and get the GX7...
@snappiness Жыл бұрын
Very nice!!
@tomtakumi 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Sam Streetlife create a mini Leica using Lumix GM1 with Leica 15mm 1.7f. This one is just as good 👍. I think.
@snappiness 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that one too! The GM1 is supposed to be even smaller. The smallest M43 potentially.
@tomtakumi 2 жыл бұрын
@@snappiness actually I just remembered that Robin Wong just made the same video 2 days ago. Another m43 setup.
@jackslater8688 11 ай бұрын
Just bought this setup today! US version. Will use manual lenses.
@manichaean1888 4 ай бұрын
The slow autofocus is probably not the fault of the camera, but the lens. 20/1.7 is notorious for the slow AF.
@KevinRedder 3 ай бұрын
I have this setup and I don't think the af is slow at all
@DanniPortillo 7 ай бұрын
What's your profile picture tune? Or you just shoot in RAW?
@cosecaduteperterra 7 ай бұрын
I use this exact setup since 2014, I ended up selling my X100V since I still preferred the GX1+20mm over that overly hyped "vintage" camera
@The_Hero_Is_Back 2 жыл бұрын
Any older GF or GX Panasonic with a 20mm makes a good GR IIIx alternative. Put Panasonic’s 14mm f/2.5 on and you have a GR alternative. The 14mm is a great lens. My GR IIIx alternative is a 40mm full frame Olympus Trip from the 1970s. Found it on a junk stall in Croatia for EUR35 a few years ago. Slightly dreamy photos if you get the focussing slightly off and super sharp if you focus dead on. Love it.
@alang253 Жыл бұрын
I rented a GRiiix. Wonderful camera, but decided to save my money and continue using my 10+ year old GF1 + 20mm for EDC. Even though I have an em1mkiii for serious shooting I prefer the GF1 because of the way it renders Jpegs. All the presets (std, vibrant, BW, nostalgia) are very film like in rendering and I don’t have Fujifilm envy anymore! Seriously check it out, also I wasn’t too impressed with the AF on the Ricoh GRIIIx, hunts a lot and misses even in decent lighting.
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