Glad to see you asking for safety gear. So many channels I watch, the creators think they are bullet proof. Currently building a shower and I've learned a lot from your content.

I had a customer that was in financial hardship and had the same issue. I told them i'll try something to get this working but no guarantees and only pay for the new tile since i had the other material. The supporting flooring lumber was in good shape. I removed the existing drain and drain body; applied Redgard liquid membrane over scarified clean tile, 2" up the wall surround and inside the drain hole; applied a 2" mortar bed over the tile pitched to center drain; applied a second layer of redgard then tiled the flooring and portion of the wall with modified thinset. I'm in NY and the basement height was about 7'H. That's what i did 9 years ago and it still fine. I would never recommend this repair but it worked

Everyone is amazed..well if your bathroom has a chance to go through a wet dry cycle...and mortar is sloped properly...this is a testament to what can be done....meanwhile every manufacturer and contractor wants to sell you the newest... membranes, curb material... waterproofing...new plumbing.....I can tell you this that those floor joist are to one side..of the load bearing beam, creating alot of deflection on that concrete mortar pan.....big bucks Wendy....👍 Thanks tile coach

My house was built in 1964, when I ripped the original shower out, the only waterproofing was a 1mil plastic sheet under the mortar bed. Needless to say the water damage was extensive. I had to replace every sill plate in the bathroom, luckily it was slab on grade so I didn’t have any subfloor damage.

Coach You’re unbelievable I’m learning so much from your videos that it’s going to save me a lot of money on two shower upgrades in my house God bless

Gotta say o tile is one of the best! He is here to stay for the duration! Your work is warranted….

My exact problem! Spare shower rarely used cracked when it started getting daily use. Going to tear it all out and either do it myself or hire somebody. Thank you Issaic for the knowledge you are teaching us.

In the San Francisco Bay Area in the 60's I can't ever remember seeing any showers with sloped shower pans or even pebbles around the weep holes. Most of the pans were hot mops and at best the hot moppers might try and slope their tar a little bit. But as time went on and codes became more stringent and the need for improvements became evident new products appeared such as hot mop slope boards along with an array of other new innovations in shower pans. So this shower pan does not surprise me but I am amazed there is no water damaged wood. Thanks for all the great videos, 52 years of setting tile and I am still learning! lol😀

A bunny suit is less than $20. It keeps the fiberglass AND spiders off of you when you're crawlin'. I also wear a full face respirator wit P100 pancake filters when working in crawls... that keeps EVERYTHING out of your lungs and eyes too!

Hope you get the job. Wendy is good looking too. Love the wallpaper

awesome video and honest opinion.

That’s some really cool wallpaper!

These are the videos I like., the challenges .

There used to be a pan liner made out of that material . its probably around the 60s era. I've torn out several in North Carolina. Its like a paper with a tar and fibrous material.

My house was built in 1962. I had a similar setup in a shower that I replaced earlier this year in a big bathroom remodel job. From the looks of that wood that shower didn't get used much.

I’m liking the lotus sweatshirt!!

"i don't like spiders, i don't like spiderwebs" -TileCoach 🤣🤣

Waiting until you got back into the house to take off your filthy hoodie was a power move. Also. You jacked bro.

Interesting to see the different home construction methods throughout the country. Here in South Florida we have concrete slabs mostly so we wouldn’t see issues like this (but certainly other kinds).

TC you know your stuff but I do hope that you've done additional support from underneath to those existing subfloor planks. They are definitely flexing! Especially under all the weight of old-school float walls, mud bed plus the weight of a person in that shower. That is the reason why floor cracked in a such particular cross pattern from wall to curb all the way and from other wall to wall across. Am curious to see if you'll have a followup video. 💪

"I'm just weird" Isaac- no comment 🤣

Woulda been something to crawl all the way from the other side of the house, just to go by another opening right there 😂

“I’ve never seen anything like this” then turns around and say “typically when we see this there’s more water damage” 😂 contractors ALWAYS have the same script 😂 😂😂

The felt was used as an uncoupling membrane. In the era that this shower was built, a copper or rubber pan, integrated into the floor drain was used. No waterproofing was used, other than quality cement work, tile work and grouting.

That was how it was done in that time. Tar paper and really well mixed Portland cement and sand.

I would expect seasonal expansion/contraction of the 2x subfloor, even in your climate. Up here in the PNW, we will watch our soffit and siding material move like crazy as the seasons change. Cedar, pine, fir.. it all expands and contracts. We can install a t&g soffit with zero gaps in the winter, and when summer comes around we will see 1/16” gaps everywhere. My first shower project is coming up and I’ve decided to use either 3/4 MDO or a marine ply under the foam pan.

Tripping wallpaper

My house was built in 1957 and had the same tile, mud cap, and float.... that curb was thicc

Down here in south west Georgia USA 🇺🇸 we love your videos 0:33

I would bet that it was a guest bedroom and the bathroom was rarely used - the reason for lack of mold. Since you're in the Bay Area, perhaps it was seismic activity that cracked it; making them use the bath even less.

The fact the crawl space is that free and that there's virtually no waterproofing is why there's no rot. Rot happens when there's something soaking it and it doesn't breathe, the fact half of these planks were in an areated crawlspace was this owner's saving grace. If they were in between floors with insulation, it would've been a nightmare.

We have house built in the early 70ies. The shower walls in the tub were put directly on the drywall. It was used every day by 2 children until 2000. The grout at the tub failed and the tiles got soft at the bottom. I replaced it with a fiberglass tub and shower unit. Were you able to see if the walls had deteriorated.

Older houses with a plank subfloor used felt paper on the entire floor, that's not for waterproofing it's a vapor barrier. They counted on the tile being waterproof.

The cracks are the only Problem. Of course now we have water proofing materials, but back than the shower was fine without all the plastic stuff we use today. The shower worked perfekt until it broke.

That 2 x1-1/2 adapter no hub band didn't look to old...

Are tile shower's better on a house built with a slab Foundation? Or should i just do a 1 piece prefab, after watching your videos I am scared of doing a tile shower.

I don't like it, but it's gotta be done, and then you do it. That's when you know that this guy is determined to fix it right the first time. Todays world, that work ethic has been disappearing at an alarming rate.

They knew how to waterproof showers in the 1960s. This was done on the cheap by someone that didn't know what they were doing. Aside from the lack if waterproofing with the pan, the pan was put in after the wall tile.

i believe this was a closet at first and the shower was added . That collar attaching the drain looks newer than 1959

So.. how much did u charge for that.? We need that information to know if we are competitive

I call those showers in that kinda shape the "frag out"

The only time I’ve seen shower pan tile crack is from wood swelling from moisture…Or some person using concrete for a mortar bed….Yea…Some General contractors try to do tile….They call it pouring a pan! Lol! Soup it up and move it around…😆

Fix it for her, and show us the repair 😎

Looks like the shower drain wasn’t properly supported by the subfloor. Maybe someone was cutting out old pipe and didn’t properly support the shower drain, and that caused the break.

I demoed a shower once that had roll roofing on the walls and floor. I would guess it was from the 40s

Good advantage to be 1st floor. 2nd floor that leak would show immediately.

might wanna renovate the wall paper while your at it, this place is dated to about 1979

I was looking for Mosaic tile yesterday for a client. I stumbled across a bbw mermaid Mosaic... Why would they even make that haha 😂 something for everyone I guess 🤷‍♂️😂

Hope you charged her for your time and consultation and probably right will go with cheapest bid

You need to realize that water proofing has come a long way in 45 years, we didn't have a whole bunch of options back then.

Do you take your mask off for the camera? They do make a huge difference around mold and insulation?

Weird wallpaper, hate wallpaper in bathrooms but that is her preference.

100% full gut... i wouldn't even offer a repair on that 40 year old shower.

Tar paper on the subfloor and a mud pack. That’s the way it used to be done.

Anything I’ve ever ripped out from that vintage had a lead pan

How do you get these gigs tile coach? Do you charge the customer for your demo work?

I should have lead pan or shower liner

I’m from Baltimore Maryland and yes we do got basements but we also have crawlspaces too and a lot of our counties unless it’s a add-on or an addition bathroom we only got about between 12 inches maybe 18 if the house was done correctly or it’s not a old house from the mill area in Northwest Baltimore and old historic Camden😮 they got some shades in the back of the yard up there that people built around that were old outhouses that they’ve excavated and turned into toilets and powder rooms, but it’s like why can’t some shit be a little bit easier I’m thankful I’m only 165 pounds and I’m 5 foot eight muscular build but I’m smaller than you and my little ass gets up in the areas but I got the other day try to give me a shoebox opening next to a gas meter and I’m like how do I get pipe wrenches in there and my little arms, God bless what you’re doing brother I need to check out the full video of that house you went back to. I started to watch it and I lost it where it was like one of your first jobs and the material off the factory drain edge failed.!! it’s Man you go back and reevaluate it and look how you do things a lot different and better!!! I wish you a lot of luck in this year of 24 and safety along with it bro all the way from Baltimore city

What about using that old bs as your "foundation" membrane over that then new thin set and grout and title on top. Raising it just 1/4" 1/2", gut the middle for a new drain??

my original shower was exactly like that and built in 1978 , as an add on, but it had a rubber shower pan so looks like whoever did that shower just used what they had

She's definitely going with the cheapest bid

Type d paper, aka stucco paper

At first I was expecting a lead pan

Someone get Isaac a headlamp.

I would have put some caulking in there. 🙃

Don’t Go with the cheapest Guy Wendy! Go with Tile Coach! Would love to see an update on this video to see if she goes with you and what you would do!

Just fill the cracks with clear silicone. 😂

You never want “the drip”.

Felt board 50 60,

Holy smokes, the shower area its so small, can't even fit a cat there.. lol

Likes when it's not "cookie cutter" in the same breath "let's keep a 4" white Daltile ceramic."

That's how it was done back in the 70s

She’s going with the cheapest bid. Don’t do it Wendy.

thats one small shower...big house lil shower lol

I hate water damage

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Id say that shower wasnt used much at all, she said the main one is nearby

Cant u just use paint to waterproof nowadays?!

it did last decades tho

Yikes

If you can't stop water, at least let it drain easily. That's what the ancients did in this shower.

That looks to be a 50's or early 60's shower.

OMG! This shower was built in the 60's-70's.... Possible insurance Restoration later in the showers life.

Dude , you need to invest in a good set of coveralls.

Definitely could have been redone. Just wasn't enough money in the job for him to do the floor over!

Drop in a pre fab base, Slicone and jobs done.

this shower was built in the 70s or 80s, wendy how old is this house its built in 59.. see zack i was right lol hahha... sorry i had too. lol

Crawl spaces don’t breathe enough to avoid rot. Only explanation is that this is a two-shower suite. The smaller shower must have gotten used less, and once cracked, not at all… for years.

I vote for putting a new layer of roofing paper down and a concrete bed and tile and it will last another 50 years. whats the problem??

I thought at first that lady wasn't wearing pants and it was tattoos i was looking at. 😮

Easily a $25,000 repair

This is such bullshit.. This shower dont need to be ripped out. You can repair this shower with some fine print in your contract. Why would you have to rip out anything above the 12 to 18inches is beyond me