My Top 10 Favorite Defensive Boxers of All Time

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8 жыл бұрын

This is the countdown list of my all time favorite defensive boxers, it was quite difficult to narrow down to just 10.
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1. Nicolino Locche
2. Willie Pep
3. Hilario Zapata
4. George Benton
5. Wilfred Benitez
6. James Toney
7. Miguel "Happy" Lora
8. Pernell Whitaker
9. Johnny Famechon
10. Miguel Canto
Highlights Knockouts Tribute
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@ericksantos4555 8 жыл бұрын

I love how people come here to correct an individual's favorites. If someone's favorite food is pizza, you can't correct it and say it has to be steak.

@germanc.2294 4 жыл бұрын

@ WTF???

@cautiondonotsubscribe.1199 4 жыл бұрын

@ agreed

@spirgtudsrubec7776 4 жыл бұрын

But there is lots of things about a pizza, that you can pick and change to make it a better pizza. And my pizza is always best, until a better pizza comes along. Ain't that right.

@umadbro998 2 жыл бұрын

You're wrong Your favorite food is in fact steak!

@bbq878 2 жыл бұрын

How dare you have a different opinion than mine!

@Va1eri3405 5 жыл бұрын

RIP Pernell Whittaker, one of the best Defensive boxer to ever step foot in the ring. Glad he's in the your top 10 list

@adv_jaco7883 4 жыл бұрын

Locche was called The Untouchable for a reason. That fight against Fuji in Japan is historic.

@androlibre9661 8 жыл бұрын

I think Locche was the GREATEST defensive fighter ever. EVER. WHy? Because of all the other defensive fighting greats he's the one that didn't have anything else. His hand weren't that quick, he wasn't very athletic, no power to speak of BUT he won over 100 fights because you just couldn't hit him. Competition wasn't great I suppose but still 117 wins 4 losses and 14 draws and 1 no contest. For somebody whose only skill was his defense that is incredible. He did have 14 knockouts but shit after not hitting somebody to 10 rounds or so I'd bet those guys were exhausted more than knocked out.

@RobsterRulzDude0518 7 жыл бұрын

He(Locche) was what they call an anomoly(Sp?). Funny word. It means exceptionally different. He didnt look like a boxer. More like an accountant,or a highschool shop teacher.,especially with that badly receded hairline. Also,He smoked cigarrettes and barely trained. "Benitez" was the same as far as the training. I believe his only training was sparring. I dont think he did any roadwork or situps. Also with Benitez,he would take a nap just before his boxing matches,thus why he always entered the ring dry as a bone and also,check out "Benitez vs Shields". Benitez yawns as the ring announcer talks. I never saw a boxer yawn while in the ring getting ready for they're fight.

@rondocombatgems3949 6 жыл бұрын

Robert Decker Jr. lol

@matiasnardelli7232 5 жыл бұрын

Andro Libre naturally gifted, nicolino didnt like to train. on one ocation an argentinian friend and journalist went see him before a fight. HE WAS HAVING A NAP. He smoked and drink too You can see him in some videos talking to people in the front row WHILE doging puches from the oponent. Beat them out of frustración. Real genius. Could be even greater but he decided To enjoy life beside being a world champion. Make an effort with my english jaja

@badcornflakes6374 5 жыл бұрын

@@RobsterRulzDude0518 well, Benitez is basically a vegetable now. Still a champ, still the youngest ever champ actually.

@thetulianrenegade1827 5 жыл бұрын

Locche is the best defensive fighter ever seen, naturally gifted with defensive insight, a true prodigy.

@CommKommando 7 жыл бұрын

After seeing George Benton, it's funny to hear people say Floyd invented his own defensive style. That's Benton's style lol

@jasoncruize3271 6 жыл бұрын

Josh C. These people now a days don’t know who’s great defensive teachers like him .

@omer1234341 6 жыл бұрын

lol who is the idiots who say the mayweather invented this style?

@ghostboy7072 5 жыл бұрын

Josh C. Floyd's style is the track and field strategy

@Uberboy07 5 жыл бұрын

Fuck floyd. He one of those bitches that have take/steal them say it's his... Parnell is my fav. btw

@jaydub2971 5 жыл бұрын

Famechon, too. Both used the "Philly Shell" well before Pretty Boy.

@isuckatthisgame 5 жыл бұрын

I'm overwhelmed by this video. Too many great defensive techniques in 9 mins of tape. Outstanding!

@neocollective 6 жыл бұрын

Great video ! Defensive boxing make the sport utterly artistic and beautiful. Nice that you ended up with Locche " The Untouchable" earning his world championship in the most elegant way a fight could possibly be won: having your opponent refusing to go back to the ring.

@franciscorebecchi7689 7 жыл бұрын

De acuerdo con la clasificación. Locche en 136 peleas, sólo fue derribado 2 veces, y de las 4 que perdió, sólo 1 por fuera de combate, pero no por caída, sino por un corte en la ceja. Peleó con los mejores de las categorías liviano y súper-liviano en los '60 y '70. 10 de sus rivales fueron campeones del mundo y 6 están en el Hall de la Fama de Todos los Tiempos; incluido el mismo Nicolino.-

@Nacho-Telmo 7 жыл бұрын

Lo de Nicolino no tiene comparación. Jamás ha existido un boxeador así. E incluso es injusto encasillarlo como luchador defensivo, muchas veces cacheteaba a sus rivales, teniendo la posibilidad de aplicar un golpe de lleno. Era un artista con todas las letras. Técnicamente, el mejor boxeador de la historia, libra por libra

@jorgepeneano3262 6 жыл бұрын

EL REDENTOR Y FRANCISCO: ASI ES. ESTOY DE ACUERDO CON LOS DOS. LOCCHE PEGABA CUANDO SE LE ANTOJABA. ERA UN ARTISTA DEL RING, UN SHOWMAN. LE PREGUNTABA AL PUBLICO (CON QUIEN SIEMPRE HABLABA EN LAS PELEAS): - ¿QUE HAGO? ¿LE PEGO O NO LE PEGO? - Y LA TRIBUNA LE RESPONDIA: - Y PEGUE, Y PEGUE, Y PEGUE LOCCHE, PEGUE.

@studplayrico 5 жыл бұрын

Recordemos como el titán puertorriqueño Carlos Ortiz descifró a Locce pero solo se llevó el empate en una de las peleas más controversiales de todos los tiempos.

@erickriv5485 5 жыл бұрын

@Efren Medina ,los tres mejores de esa lista son Wilfred Benítez, Nicolino Loche el intocable y Willie Pepp. En el orden que los quieras poner.

@jesusoropezaoviedo6029 5 жыл бұрын

Francisco Robecchi Buenísimos datos! La derrota por nocáut técnico fue frente al colombiano Kid Pambelé en Maracay, Venezuela! Y una de sus dos únicas caídas se la propinó el caraqueño Carlos "Morocho" Hernández, en el 2° asalto, en Buenos Aires, en el conocido como "el round corto"... Nicolino Locche fue un auténtico mago de la defensa!!!

@salvatormundi5184 5 жыл бұрын

I never heard about Wilfred Benitez. Such a genius, to me, the smoothest defenser on this video. He fought in the era of Hearns, Duran and Leonard, and face them all !!! He last 15 rounds against Leonard and won to Duran !

@rafiqje9791 3 жыл бұрын

The most efficient head movement I've ever seen

@bbq878 2 жыл бұрын

Best headmovement ever. He wasted no energy doing so. If he neededto move an inch to make his opponent miss,than he moved an inch.

@getschwifty9531 4 ай бұрын

You didn't mention he lasted all rounds against Hearns without being knocked out!

@pablohectorbarrera4347 4 жыл бұрын

NICOLINO LOCCHE genius !

@alemao1352 5 жыл бұрын

Nicolino was unreal

@jon-francis9289 6 жыл бұрын

Loved it that Johnny Famechon got a mention. Willie Pep in later life refereed Fammo's first fight against Fighting Harada.

@jasoncruize3271 6 жыл бұрын

Boxing fans who don’t like defensive fighters are those who don’t know how to learn it or teach it. They just don’t understand it

@deconsturm9004 8 жыл бұрын

Awesome locche is my number 1 too

@franciscorebecchi7689 7 жыл бұрын

Coincido con vos en considerar a Nicolino Locche como el N° 1. Gracias.-

@tatax85 6 жыл бұрын

Locche es el mejor boxeador defensivo de la historia del boxeo =)

@luisasanchez265 4 жыл бұрын

juan manuel Roldan grande El Hombre fantasía; sencillamente magia sobre el ring🙏🏻👍🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷

@ZerikLaps 3 жыл бұрын

Willie Pep . Although he wasn't blessed with powerful hands, he was sure as hell blessed with, and worked towards having, immense footwork and defensive skills. What a legend. Great fights with saddler. Locche is very good it's a shame his overshadowed in the game because I feel like a lot of people can learn from him. El intocable. The only reason he isn't as known is due to most of his fights being in Argentina. All legends in this list. Great vid and great list. My personal and biased person I'd might put on my list would be Henry Armstrong. More of an offensive fighter ironically but his head positioning made it impossible for people to hit him and he was great at avoiding shots can probably be a better person defensively but I like Armstrong's use of head and shoulder as defense along with using the shoulder to set up shots.

@michaelclay3990 4 жыл бұрын

Locche,could stand right infront of a person and still couldn't hit him..amazing

@hassan123456killa 4 жыл бұрын

This is an outdated list with the wrong fighters on there. People missing from this list are Mike Tyson, Jersey Joe, Ali, Mayweather, Nseem Hamed, Wilfred B, Roy Jones jr

@spirgtudsrubec7776 4 жыл бұрын

@@hassan123456killa yes i think you are right in what you say, they seem to lean toward the one weight divisions alright. Having said that, these guys are definitely there or there about too. But those guys you mentioned deserve to be there also, bar Tyson and Mayweather. I believe Mike Tyson's defensive system was thought to him . They were not naturally spontaneous. I admit he put a lot of hard work into his defense, but when the going got tough and after D'amato's demise, Mike lost his way and his defense went with it. I also believe Floyd Mayweather fought all the best fighter's he fought, when they were over the hill. I'm not saying he was not great, what I am saying is he did not prove it. When a mans reflexes are slowing down, it is not as difficult to evade his punches.

@colorado2455 2 жыл бұрын

@@spirgtudsrubec7776 nah not tyson. He still got hit pretty often. Nowhere near ali or the guys mentioned here.

@kingofbubbles6220 2 жыл бұрын

@@hassan123456killa If he had to update his favorites list to accommodate your favorite boxers then it wouldn't be his favorites list anymore.

@mymonitoreatsmice Жыл бұрын

@@colorado2455 ali got hit plenty, it was his iron chin that kept him up a lot of the times, not his defense

@getsmart3701 7 жыл бұрын

Great video mate. Locche the untouchable is the only choice for the number 1 spot.

@clm3888 2 жыл бұрын

This guy knows which clips to put in a highlight video. He understands the beauty of the art of boxing. I love watching your videos. I visualise myself doing these things. I learn all the time.

@53redcobra 6 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree with this...Locche is #1.

@jorgepeneano3262 6 жыл бұрын

53: YES, THE BEST.

@Lexthebarbarian 3 жыл бұрын

Your choice of music is sublime.

@paolotondo2463 4 жыл бұрын

Locche difense was simply insane...no power punching,no boxing skills ,only exceptional reflexes..they couldn t hit him. ..a Legend

@wellsnathan Жыл бұрын

To say Locche had no boxing skills is crazy

@gaminghunt5837 11 ай бұрын

@@wellsnathan agreed

@jorgepeneano3262 6 жыл бұрын

COMPLETELY ACCORDING TO CLASSIFICATION. NICOLINO LOCCHE THE BEST OF ALL TIMES.

@miraclemeditations3919 5 жыл бұрын

This is one of the best KZfaq boxing videos I have ever seen. Well done! I feel I learned a bit, thank you!

@kjackson9000 8 жыл бұрын

Hilario representing Panama! Finally got into the Hall of Fame this month

@hanzagod 8 жыл бұрын

Don't know what took them so long to induct him, Zapata was amazing!

@marcoantonioc5437 8 жыл бұрын

+haNZAgod suprised I dont see mike tyson..he was the slickest heavywieght of all time he never got hit

@hanzagod 8 жыл бұрын

Marco Cano I definitely wouldn't say Tyson was the slickest Heavyweight of all time. A prime Ali, Gene Tunney, Jersey Joe Walcott and Chris Byrd were all more defensively sound than him, Tyson had a tendency to abandon defense when things weren't going his way but for an offensive fighter his defense was pretty good. He doesn't compare defensively to the 10 on this list.

@marcoantonioc5437 8 жыл бұрын

+haNZAgod ya I guess, tyson was an all headmovement defense fighter, he didnt shoulder roll or block or parry , he would just be constantly moving his head so he was a bit 1 dimensional

@markant9534 7 жыл бұрын

+haNZAgod Tyson needed Rooney around to keep him calm and focused! Watch film study by Wilson Kayden!

@libertarioporsiempre3612 5 жыл бұрын

Todos muy buenos, pero nadie como Nicolino Loche, el mejor de todos

@thami7044 3 жыл бұрын

Wilfred benitez and pernell sweet pea had God given ability no one can ever do what they could do

@matthewstephens6848 8 жыл бұрын

Fucking amazing. Obviously you take Floyd as a given but watching these guys is an absolute treat. The hip movement of these guys is unreal.

@eduardopaz1 4 жыл бұрын

THE ONE: NICOLINO LOCCHE...

@virgokarma3853 Жыл бұрын

Locche is my favourite too. I haven’t really seen anyone else in who can move the way he does and just his knowledge and understanding of distance / reach makes him “untouchable”. There is a lot of great defensive boxers with good footwork and head movement but from the looks of it he seems to be the hardest to hit out of all of them, opponents have such difficulty landing punches on him I haven’t seen anybody else quite that good at defensive head movement. they call him the untouchable and it’s not too far off from an understatement, he is literally untouchable.

@francoarrua011 5 жыл бұрын

7:57 wtf

@husain4718 4 жыл бұрын

I know right. He was untouchable and he didn't even take training seriously.

@techeiras3998 4 жыл бұрын

Nicolino Locche

@jesusaguilar4585 3 жыл бұрын

@@husain4718 I just picture him reviewing video of opponents during "training", with a beer in one hand, a cigarette in the other, a pack of cigarette in his shirt sleeve and an ashtray littered with cigarette butts.

@osvaldopatria1003 5 жыл бұрын

NICOLINO LOCCHE #1

@abudujana13 Жыл бұрын

Number 1 Mr. Locche...agreed! Thanks for another great video

@calcagnolibero 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the beautiful video. My all time favourite is Nicolino Locche “The Untouchable”

@dritanvarfi5274 Жыл бұрын

Very good ranking! Had never seen fighting style like Locche's before!

@caferastas8591 4 жыл бұрын

As always marvelous video, marvelous content and music!

@Ezequiel-jo3dj 2 жыл бұрын

Nicolino Locche! Convirtió un deporte brutal en arte.

@bertrodri8008 6 жыл бұрын

Wow no conocía a Nicolino Locche tremendo boxeador defensivo vi sus palmares y sorprende un monton, sin dudas mucho respeto y tambien me alegra que le dieran un reconocimiento al gran campeon hilario zapata de panama , representando mi pais, tierra tambien de grandes boxeadores defensivos como ismael laguna tambien.

@enriquemarcelobarbano1033 4 жыл бұрын

La pelea de Ismael con Nicolino , fue peleada , como no podía ser de otra forma entre 2 camp eonisimos

@Danieljordan2 Жыл бұрын

Loved the list. Amazin boxers I didn’t know. Thanks!

@eranliber5993 11 ай бұрын

I loved that list. Well done sir

@austinferrin2633 8 жыл бұрын

Just discovered your channel and about to watch all your videos! This is awesome!

@marcoslopez127 3 жыл бұрын

Locche being number one shows how good Carlos Ortiz was.

@crazykocounters4741 3 жыл бұрын

You got the same taste as me, like it or not, el intoncable Nicolino loche is the best i just love to see him just swings his head to dodge all of those punches 7:56

@kristopherhall140 7 жыл бұрын

Nice vid bro! I respect your list.

@gragrn 8 жыл бұрын

Great video hanNZA, Nico is my number one as well. The real art of boxing is in the defense and all these guys are masters!

@escariotnah4872 8 жыл бұрын

Very good list. I'm partial to the guys with slower feet like Mike McCallum, Dwight Qawi, and James Toney, but these guys are as good as it gets. Floyd Mayweather has one advantage, however, in that he is probably the most defensively disciplined fighter. Benitez sometimes fell back on his cheat code level spatial awareness.

@robertg305 4 жыл бұрын

Love this channel

@CarlosRodriguez-jm8jp 4 жыл бұрын

De acuerdo excelente selección Locche el mejor de todos. Y es más impresionante si tienes en cuenta que no le gustaba entrenar. No habrá otro igual. Ni siquiera uno

@conormcnagger4703 5 жыл бұрын

James toney is my favorite boxer of all time, such a natural beast at boxing and the dude never trained lmao

@MaysFavFootballVids 4 жыл бұрын

Naw he was trained bruh...do your research....I came from Kronk Gym

@user-tf3dk5ev5k 11 ай бұрын

Of course he trained, lol. May be not like Roy Jones, but in most of his fights he was pretty sharp. He had also great speed and stamina, speed is always result of training, not nature

@mollylemonk 4 жыл бұрын

Famechon was the man, tragic about the accident. He was gifted.

@JohnSharpe-vn2vo Ай бұрын

Wouldn’t even of known lora if not for this upload brilliant

@armandoandrada9606 4 жыл бұрын

Muy buena selección , y nicolino loche fue lo mejor de lo mejor , inigualable

@alejandroescuderogrellmann9090 4 жыл бұрын

El número UNO para el intocable, N.L!

@osvaldopatria1003 4 жыл бұрын

N1: NICOLINO LOCCHE

@bradtaylor5828 Жыл бұрын

Love your list man good job Floyd needed on the list but other than that love your list

@zacthurman3701 4 жыл бұрын

That is a fine list sir

@tonygalento9191 3 жыл бұрын

😊 great,nicolino 1🥇🎖

@sb848 3 жыл бұрын

Locche and Benitez could make a fighter miss by the most minuet movements.

@787Martin 2 жыл бұрын

Locche the man that not entered but lived in the matrix. I like Mark 'to sharp' Johnson to, good complete boxer. And for me Emanuel Augustus just is refreshing eye candy every time i whats one of his fights XD

@Kevin-ci4mp 3 жыл бұрын

as a colombian im glad you put happy lora there, but yeah loche its the defensive god

@missionsbibleministry 3 жыл бұрын

Locche's timing and balance whew

@NickDDDD 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks H! Very educational. Please can you now do 10 separate videos doing an hour long breakdown of each fighter listed?..."avec" fancy graphics & text please this time mate. Cheers, N

@matiasnardelli7232 5 жыл бұрын

Nick D kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtJ7pdl4l7XWkas.html nocolino, el intocable (the untouchable)

@chadtep7571 4 жыл бұрын

Benitez is no. 1 for me. Competition was way harder that Locche. No argument against Pep. Sweet Pea is too low and Mayweather will be more appreciated in down the line. My take. Defensive geniuses throughout this video. You never disappoint.

@JEM-fo6rs 8 жыл бұрын

Great video and music.

@Gulf_Garage51 7 жыл бұрын

El intocable nicolino lochee

@DopeBoysofAtlanta 5 жыл бұрын

+haNZAgod what were the names of the other 2 songs in the video and who are they by?

@ritzkola2302 4 жыл бұрын

Can you list a stamp for each individual song track? I’m trying to figure what that song is at the 3:00 mark. I’ve downloaded a lot of music you’ve put me on through these videos

@lisandrogermankelly5354 5 жыл бұрын

Nicolino Crack!

@DissFunkShunIll 8 жыл бұрын

Damn where da 1st beat come from? I found the original version here on youtube but it wasn't the same so I'm guessing this is a remix

@zoro_3054 8 жыл бұрын

cant disagree with you with ma man at number #5 #ElRadar

@badcornflakes6374 5 жыл бұрын

Heck ya. And Willie Pep

@bighova09 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting list. Put me up on a few cats I haven't really checked out yet. Makes me wonder though, how do you feel about Floyd?

@fratferocious80 3 жыл бұрын

I love this channel.I wish I could get the oppurtunity to meet with it's owner...Life...

@christiant.3712 7 жыл бұрын

Do you think the shoulder roll defense is the best method?

@kernel1kadafi 5 жыл бұрын

Great video Only for the lovers of the sweet science

@j-bmash5641 6 жыл бұрын

Damn sweet pea at no.8 has to be at least top 5 for me.

@Uberboy07 6 жыл бұрын

J-b Mash in saying...wtf

@finnneilson6229 6 жыл бұрын

J-b Mash I'd say top 3 haha

@goricaj1 6 жыл бұрын

J-b Mash sweet pea drove me nuts by making fights to close by playing around.Still a defensive master!!

@MaysFavFootballVids 4 жыл бұрын

Same thing I said bruh....He should be too 3 and he was trained by George Benton

@kevinsagastume762 2 жыл бұрын

This is a favorite defensive boxer list not the greatest defensive boxer list

@JohnSharpe-vn2vo Ай бұрын

Watched this like six times good music too

@Mikhail-Stark 5 жыл бұрын

As a panamanian, my favorite one is Hilario Zapata. A legend.

@DissFunkShunIll 7 жыл бұрын

It's a wonder Willie Pep was so hard to hit with such a massive fucking head.

@thedude4232 6 жыл бұрын

fkn dead...............LOL

@roberthaynes4923 5 жыл бұрын

Chris Byrd is unmentioned here surprisingly. When you consider the fact he was giving up so many pounds and fighting monsters he was unbelievably good defensively

@hanzagod 5 жыл бұрын

I do like Byrd just not in my top 10 all time. It's pretty hard to narrow down to just 10 and I hate doing countdown lists like these.

@8House Жыл бұрын

@@hanzagodYour list is excellent.

@calvin6772 7 жыл бұрын

awesome video! and btw What's the first theme song called?

@mclean1248 5 жыл бұрын

What is the music in this video? Description only names the 1st song

@dawudbeyal-rasul2764 6 жыл бұрын

What’s the name of the first song on this video. Can u tell me please?

@angelangel3742 5 жыл бұрын

Locche 👏👏👏👏👏👏

@gregk199 8 жыл бұрын

Perfect! Could please also do like a top swarmer list? For example Joe Frazier

@hanzagod 8 жыл бұрын

Hmm yea that's a really good idea actually. Give me some time to think about that, I'll come up with a decent list.

@gregk199 8 жыл бұрын

+haNZAgod cool thanks 🙂

@johntobysharpe9769 3 жыл бұрын

Great picks Willie pep and sweet pea for me ☮️

@tabitalpulaaku2593 6 жыл бұрын

Can you tell me the song @ the end zapata through locche?

@carlosromero6387 2 жыл бұрын

HanzaGod. Do you add to the list Canelo or Floyd Jr?. Excelent list. And you list of the 50 favorite boxers add to Pacquiao? If the aswer is Yes What place? Greatings

@clm3888 5 жыл бұрын

What's the song starting with Hilario?

@UndeadFool 7 жыл бұрын

Great list! All great defensive wizards. Any chance you can do one of Joan Guzman's defense?

@hanzagod 7 жыл бұрын

Yea that sounds like a good idea.

@hanzagod 7 жыл бұрын

Here it is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdaonMd3usCteps.html

@0469708827 6 жыл бұрын

Great choice

@omniexistus 6 жыл бұрын

two questions: isn't it illegal for a boxer to bend down below the opponent's waist? also doesn't that open themselves for an uppercut? why does the other boxer keep trying to punch straight jabs and such?

@m.b.c.boxing9177 5 жыл бұрын

No, it is not illegal to bend below your opponents waist. It's called leveling, which a lot of great defensive fighters do. If your opponent is leaning over his knee with his head, yes the uppercut is perfect. But if your opponents technique is good, he could catch the uppercut or step back n counter your uppercut

@jacobharris954 Жыл бұрын

Mine is Floyd but I am new to boxing and young but always looking to learn the O.G'S

@LittleRapGuy 3 жыл бұрын

happy new year

@mis-tur-tay-bur 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you included Famechon in that list. Fammo was one of the most underrated champions in history. The only world featherweight champion not to have a kayo loss on his record at the time. Was robbed when he lost his title against Saldivar.

@hanzagod 5 жыл бұрын

Fammo was a great!

@Trekzity Жыл бұрын

@@hanzagod why not Ali?

@hanzagod Жыл бұрын

@@Trekzity Ali had excellent reflexes but I wouldn't say he was an all time great defensive fighter.

@Trekzity Жыл бұрын

@@hanzagod fair enough