My Week With The 911 Sport Classic [Better Than My GT3?]

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11 ай бұрын

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I get behind the wheel of the ‪@Porsche‬ #911 #SportClassic ... essentially a beautifully bespoke manual 911 Turbo.
On paper, this car is a 'bit of me' and potentially a bit more me than my own 911 GT3, so I spend a week with the car to find out if one day I might want to replace my car with a Sport Classic!
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@nickb- 11 ай бұрын

What you've described is exactly what everyone said about the 997 Sport Classic when it came out. Lovely car, etc, but the value proposition simply doesn't stack up at all. Of course, the 997 SC has ended up being a real collector's car . . . and now sells for silly money. I assume the 992 SC will probably do the same thing? Personally, i get much more excited about the 992 S/T.

@Mini360 11 ай бұрын

Yes and no I feel. The 992 has been produced in far greater numbers than the 997 (1250 Vs c.300 from memory?). Having been fortunate to experience both 997 and 992 Sport Classics, they're both special but I do feel the 997 is the more special car.

@ajcgolf69 11 ай бұрын

Hard to say on the values but if I had to guess I don’t think 992 SC will go as crazy high as the 997 SC. They only made 250 997’s but are making 1250 992’s The extra 1000 cars supplied should keep values more sensible

@technom3598 11 ай бұрын

@@ajcgolf69that's for the world... 1k cars for the world... Isn't a lot.

@PaganiZondaF650hp 11 ай бұрын

Honestly I feel the 997 sport classic is only hyped because of the rarity compared to modern Porsche limited editions. Apart from the ducktail and Fuchs Felgen it was just a standard 997 with all options

@PaganiZondaF650hp 11 ай бұрын

Regarding the 992 sport classic: Good on people that can get it, but the ideal 992 sport classic would be a 992 gt3 touring manual with the sport classic‘s ducktail (and rear seat retrofit if you want that)

@STERNWAERTS 11 ай бұрын

I'll have a Singer and a Sport Classic, please. And when I'm not driving them, I'll be staring at them, for hours, eating M&M’s.

@andrewbond7949 11 ай бұрын

The new S/T may be the sweet spot in the lineup. I hope you get the opportunity to drive that model.

@tomasz899 11 ай бұрын

Just stop this "sweet spot" nonsense, already... Everything "in the middle" became "sweet spot". The other one is OEM+. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Either something is OEM or it is not.

@djones1304 11 ай бұрын

And until 992.2 comes out. And is a tiny bit better

@nolanmackey4175 11 ай бұрын

@@tomasz899lol you good? Who hurt you? I get the sweet spot issue however the OP did use it correctly in questioning if the new product is a good middle ground. However sweet spot is quite subjective. OEM+ however is a correct distinction of products added to a vehicle that are offered by the OEM but not originally a part of the car. Like taking a standard Golf and putting a GTI or R component on it. All of it is OEM parts but the upfitting of a standard car with higher trim parts IS OEM+.

@tomasz899 11 ай бұрын

@@nolanmackey4175 But then it is not a standard Golf anymore. It is modified. And people use this often for aftermarket suspension, wheels, other bits and bobs. You are standard or you are not. OEM+ is just stupid term unless your golf could have exactly the same part as an option from factory. Sweet spot is very subjective. Probably thats why it annoys me. Sweet spot to what? 911 range? GT product range? What about GT3 Touring? It is much cheaper and 90% the same car. How you measure this "sweet spot". By what criteria? It is just moonshine talk...

@teabagtowers3823 11 ай бұрын

@@tomasz899 Sweet spot is whatever you want it to be. Personally for me this Sports Classic 911 without the decals would be my sweet spot. However for some people it might be a GT3 touring but it is subjective so I think you are looking way too deeply into this.

@rtsmith3921 11 ай бұрын

This is my bucket list car. So fortunate Sam to spend some quality time to really evaluate the vehicle beyond the short term impressions. Well done.

@90041Ferrari 11 ай бұрын

Loved the driving scenes and sounds through the Forrest on the sunny day.

@Paul-D 11 ай бұрын

I agree, The looks of It are lovely - not to say you couldn't get near it elsewhere in the 911 line up. But as an out the showroom example its almost perfect.

@askiff1415 11 ай бұрын

Saw that you dropped into the Madding Cafe at Whipley Manor Farm in Palmers Cross just south of Guildford. We use Taurus Wines situated there for all our supplies so it was easy to recognise when you pulled in from the A281. 😊

@conner.9262 11 ай бұрын

How refreshing is it to see a 911 interior with some zing ? Plus Burmister sound system …. Fantastic looking car, great content !

@sidrens1047 11 ай бұрын

As a modern design I have to agree - certainly one of the best! Compared to an 80’s and 90’s 911 exterior design… not even close though! 😁 great video!

@yugas147 11 ай бұрын

This is a good video Sam, congrats, very well explained.

@Sam_Stanton 5 ай бұрын

Sam you always capture the beauty of living with these cars Beautiful roads, popping in to coffee shops Makes me almost like England lol

@AlexanderdePooter 11 ай бұрын

What a masterpiece the Sport Classic is! Especially looking at all the details in and out and the mechanical changes that were made from the 911 Turbo set-up

@bloodredeemed1586 11 ай бұрын

Agree that it is one of the most beautiful 911's... saw a similar spec in Chicago on Sunday and it's absolutely captivating! And that was even with a F1 GTR in Gulf livery nearby 😉

@cowanscott9047 11 ай бұрын

...and the GTS arguably sounds better when you wind it out. Perhaps you just need a 992 GT3 Touring instead.. slightly quieter, less nervous, ever so slightly softer.. cheaper.. Just a thought.. Great STG production as ever!!

@ratxq 11 ай бұрын

He has a touring

@jake4030 11 ай бұрын

The GT3 Touring is mechanically identical to the winged car.

@cowanscott9047 11 ай бұрын

@@jake4030 It is mechanically but there are some subtle difference.. The aero has been slightly adapted at the front to compensate for the lack of that rear wing, plus the camber is slightly less aggressive which helps to reduce the amount of bump steer and.. the tires are different and have a little bit more sidewall flex.

@dumbledoor5577 11 ай бұрын

I've been waiting for Sam to review this beautiful car!

@timburton1080 7 ай бұрын

Nice tour of the Kingston, Hampton Wick, Ham etc areas

@cookefamily3255 11 ай бұрын

Really enjoy the rear seat camera position while driving. Stick and tach in view … thx

@RannsD 11 ай бұрын

You got me excited then Sam when you mentioned Tony. I thought he was going to feature!

@martinboulden4388 11 ай бұрын

Both great cars - But sometimes you don’t get the chance to choose. It’s up to the OPC to decide what your buying ! But you got PTS and chose an awesome colour ! ❤

@jryalls 11 ай бұрын

The green dials and wooden trim are also added when you choose the heritage design interior on other models.

@gibgo333 11 ай бұрын

Depends which region the leather replaces the wood

@911aircooled5 11 ай бұрын

The SC and GT3 are different beasts, and you just need both! However, all 1250 are allocated so both you and I have buckleys of getting one new. The ST will be a much better machine, but that too is fully allocated at 1963. For info to others. You can easily change the seat inserts (I did mine in tartan), and the ducktail is available from DB Carbon in DE. So yes a GTS is the way to go on a budget.

@avmelidor 11 ай бұрын

I dig this spec. It an awesome bit of kit

@peterwebb2362 11 ай бұрын

I know you and many other KZfaqrs are obsessed with manual gearboxes, but I still believe that pdk is the way to go on cars with this level of performance. I'm fortunate enough to have experience with both my 992GT3 Touring and a 992Turbo S and they both suit the pdk perfectly IMO. For normal road use the auto setting is fine and if you want 'involvement' a quick flick to manual and the paddle shifts will give you all the fun you need playing with the engine whilst concentrating on steering and braking inputs. Left foot braking is fun too. On track, even the great Richard Attwood says that you won't get a better set up than pdk in SportPlus mode. So, no, I won't be interested in a Sport Classic, with it's detuned engine and two wheel drive, a job the Turbo S does much better IMO. The Touring does a different job altogether as Sam says, there's nothing much out there with an engine sound like that one...

@AndyHillier 11 ай бұрын

Great video as always.

@edmi4816 11 ай бұрын

This Sport Classic spec is gorgeous!!!! 😍

@Carsaddiction 11 ай бұрын

Just happy for you that you've gone from a Jaguar F-Type to a GT3 ... yep long time subscriber here.

@markwatson4106 11 ай бұрын

Good honest video as usual 👌

@jamespugh 11 ай бұрын

Very cool sam . Looks like porsche been keep u will taken care of while ur gt3 is in for repair plus with some work for your channels

@GM-fh5jp 11 ай бұрын

If you don't come to Perth I'll bloody well haunt you. Hope you can make it, Sam

@GazMoby 11 ай бұрын

Very enjoyable as always 👍

@michaelj.kastner5165 11 ай бұрын

Miami FL- West Broward Porsche has 2 of this flavor listed for $650,000 Mental

@richardkennett4086 11 ай бұрын

All the modern Sport classic cars are special. The targa is the one I love the most, having had one and completed 8000 miles in one. With every 911 it is about how it makes you feel and how special it is when you look back at it. The other point is about watching carefully the values, when to buy and when to sell. Porsche is now producing so many "special editions" which are collectable its a tough decision if you have the funds or finance options to suit. However just as the 911R was the ultimate a few years back and the 911ST is about to be the latest super special car. Maybe your ultimate Sam would be a 911 ST Speedster. Swan song for the 992?? 992.2 not far away.... Current Porsche bargain the first Caymen GT4. Great time to buy that car which surely will return to classic status soon.

@cnormanton 11 ай бұрын

Kingston acting as a lovely backdrop for some B Roll there 😉

@Dotherightthing832 11 ай бұрын

Great video Sam, genuinely.

@jonny5514 11 ай бұрын

Yes love the look both inside and out 👌

@scalecrawlnl 11 ай бұрын

Fun video Sam, thank you. Perhaps look into a classic 911? One which is ulez compliant. Just 'an oldie but goldie' for say a year. Inspired by a well-used aircooled I came across recently in my hometown. Great roar and driven like it is supposed to! Alternatively, slate grey restomodded 911 Carrera Classic at Forza Line in Coventry, nice! 115K £ though :-)

@Goooooo 11 ай бұрын

Amazing, as always!

@betaich 11 ай бұрын

HI Sam, nice video. WHat are your thoughts on the newly c´launched 911 S/T? WHen I saw that car I was instantly thinking of you and it is the GT product with the retro and special interior.

@brubru6819 11 ай бұрын

Looking awesome those wheels and interior- get the swap done you know you want to❤

@richardhoulton4016 11 ай бұрын

I’d have done it in Gulf Blue with that interior. With orange brake calipers. But honestly, the 911T spec is more than enough for any road car.

@Aadyi 11 ай бұрын

"Guten abend, my darling. Wochaa Wachaaa" 🤣🤣

@casual9982 11 ай бұрын

This is the most nerdy Porsche video ever, I love it😂👏🏻🤝🏼🍻

@Driver_88 11 ай бұрын

Final thoughts on just ordering a special GTS is a good conclusion :)

@helipeek2736 11 ай бұрын

Does the Sports Classic come with two functioning driveshafts? If so, I think I can see what it offers over the GT3.

@dpsimply 11 ай бұрын

It might benefit you to stop positioning your hands at 10-2 and move to 9-3. Better leverage for when the rear steps out and quick correction is needed. Also, if you crash and deploy the airbags you are less prone to punching yourself in the face. Another great video Sam!

@jgreenjeans 11 ай бұрын

It took a bit of getting used to but 3&9 feels natural to me now. Also, I don't wrap my thumbs inside the wheel; I don't want them snapped off by the airbag either.

@Yakman18 11 ай бұрын

I had a Porsche factory driver tell me 3&9. He stated that Porsche designs the steering wheels for one’s thumbs to lock in at those positions

@davidjames-maddaford4531 11 ай бұрын

When I learnt to drive *40yrs ago, You were taught the “quarter to three” positioning. “Ten to Two” was NOT a thing. Now that we have more inconsiderate and less educated drivers on the roads the airbag has replaced driver intelligence. If you use the “quarter to three” position in a car with airbag(s) on the steering wheel; you stand the slightly higher chance of performing a dissection of your hands known as “de-gloving” if the airbag is deployed. This means that you can in the millionth of a second the airbag inflates in peel the skin, tendons from your hand. So smashing your face and breaking your hands against your face, I think, is better than NEVER being able to eat or play or write, etc… Your choice. Thank for reading.

@ve1902 11 ай бұрын

@@davidjames-maddaford4531wow, thanks for letting me know about a new nightmare fuel

@harvinmahal 11 ай бұрын

I love Sam. Im always promoting his videos between my friends but one of my best friends refuses to watch him simply because he cant stand the way he holds the steering wheel 😂😂

@43lbcat 11 ай бұрын

That interior....... stunning

@SimonInSanDiego 11 ай бұрын

That interior is lovely

@lestatelvampir69 11 ай бұрын

Cool interior combination! 😍😍😍

@donaldridley7826 11 ай бұрын

I love the colour scheme. I own a white car (370z). I’d love some subtle decals, maybe something like this :-)

@beano6452 11 ай бұрын

My favourite beetle yet 😊

@amaraldnifat8580 9 ай бұрын

You can spec a GT3 to the same spec as the sport classic. I’ve seen actually a GT3 Touring on sale with heritage design wooden interior. The Porsche Sonderwunsch (Special Request) will do anything you want

@jeffreykilpatrick3592 11 ай бұрын

And with a GTS you could get a sunroof on a GTS or a targa GTS with heritage interior. But heritage edition interior removes ventilated seats. I like that the ccrnter stripe is painted on. Porsche should offer painted stripes on the GT3.

@nigel.w 11 ай бұрын

IMO, the best manual 911 'turbo' for road use is not the GTS but the T. GBP120-130K fully optioned, depending on whether you choose PTS. The only downside for me is that you can only have a black interior, though for most people this would not seem to be an issue, as that's what most people choose. Why the T over the GTS? IMO, the T has more than enough power for the road, and the smaller turbos are essentially always on boost and deliver a more linear response. The T is also cheaper, although the whole 911 range is now rather expensive, especially when compared with the Boxster/Cayman range. As always, YMMV.

@MrRoyck10 11 ай бұрын

I like my BoxEngine served with a manual clog, there is no such thing as a redundant left leg even in the London traffic, nothing beats analog Porsche 911 and the classic looks like a modern incarnation of classic Porsche 911.

@ANDRE_675 11 ай бұрын

15:58 Wrong you cannot get any of the options you mentioned on the GTS models. However, the heritage interior is available for the rest of the range as a very pricey option. The Sport Classic wheels cannot be specced on any other 911, as well as that colour.

@jameshampton8730 11 ай бұрын

Great evaluation

@WilliamStevens007 11 ай бұрын

I think this has to be the pick of the range doesn't it. I really would buy one if I ever had the mony. Just looks superb.

@christopherklanica4155 11 ай бұрын

Great conclusion. I'm glad the collectors are out there that will spend the $$$ on special edition cars but being one that loves to drive what they own, the concept is lost on me. Great video like always.

@MegaRetr 11 ай бұрын

This is a good video Sam

@christaylor4946 11 ай бұрын

Can hear Tony… “Pointless” and “Crash” when referring to 550bhp, rwd, manual, turbo 🤣 I do love the way these look though 👌

@kahuhipajae4088 11 ай бұрын

Absolute Perfect spec.

@blakewhite8831 11 ай бұрын

Wow, when I first saw the list price on the SC, I thought that there would be no way that would be worth it considering what other options you have with all the different 911s. But honestly, it's beautiful in that color, the exterior and interior set up is spectacular, you get so much torque, and the rear wheel drive, 7 speeds, and mechanical changes are huge. However, I don't think anything has caught my attention quite as much as the 911 S/T. I believe that will be the ultimate 911 variation for road use. Though it may not quite be the best daily driver considering the lightweight flywheel and the challenging clutch. Nevertheless, that's the one I'm desperate to hear about with the first test drives. The GT3RS is absurd in it's capabilities, but I don't think that would be great as a daily, and that wing is just too outrageous despite the downforce it provides. Can't roll up to the supermarket with that without looking like a bit of a child. However, if you could get the duck tail on the S/T, that would be my ultimate 911

@BassStevie 11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you can’t spec the 5 spoke wheels or the heritage interior on a GTS…. that was my ideal spec, I had to compromise on mine. You’d have to do that on a C2S - and save even MORE money!

@elderinmoi1571 11 ай бұрын

I totally understand you 😅. I would prefer this car over the gt3. Price ? How does that matter if you can buy this new and sell it for much more later down the line.

@dash-ryan 11 ай бұрын

Dude you need to meet up with Luke of Cars With Luke. Your video dropped around the same time as his video of his GT3 ownership experience. Given that both of you have the best cinematography and also both own GT3's, you're brothers of different mothers, quite literally!

@R-Tap 11 ай бұрын

997SC was my fav 997 and one of my fav 911's. Is the 992SC a limited numbers car like the 997SC was? That colour.... Saw one in Ibiza 2 weeks ago, it was a bit anonymous but the minute I noticed that SC colour, well my phone was out.

@acalthu 11 ай бұрын

How many of these are allocated to the UK? Honestly this will be a bit more special than a GT3 Touring I believe. Limited production run on a spec otherwise unavailable.

@TheFunkhouser 11 ай бұрын

Yeah!! That colour and those wheels!! OMG!! 😍🥰🤩

@chrise2329 11 ай бұрын

Wasn't fussed about these until I saw one on the road, lots of road presence.

@RogerBond007 11 ай бұрын

FYI, @ 15:15 you mention that the 911 Turbo Classic is the only turbo one can get in a manual transmission. What about both the 911 GTS & 911 T that are also turbos & one can get them in a manual 7 speed ⚙️📦 ?

@michaelh.9866 11 ай бұрын

The best 911 to take on a road trip? Steve McQueen's green 911S in the opening of LeMans.

@caliwong 11 ай бұрын

The GTS is always going to be the sweet spot in the 911 lineup, since it’s kind of conceived with that specific goal in mind. Sport classic will appreciate but you need to be pretty well off and connected to get one in the first place.

@aviator-kn8zq 11 ай бұрын

sweet spot is the spec/variant you want. not the GTS.

@caliwong 11 ай бұрын

@@aviator-kn8zq I guess we are arguing over semantics. The sweet spot for me is the car that does everything pretty well, which is the GTS, but the car I want is a GT3.

@carfan3762 11 ай бұрын

Very interesting comparison. It seems that a 911 GT3 is in its own league. So, no clash there.

@iamspyvspy3077 11 ай бұрын

Forget the GTS, a Carrera T is all the 911 you need :)

@ToreHansen 11 ай бұрын

Great video and hope its not to grim up north (KLF).

@LiqdPT 11 ай бұрын

I know this is a Porsche video, but next to the Speedster was that a new Aston Martin V12 Vantage?

@eSysmanSuperYachts 11 ай бұрын

Nobody is looking at this car as a practical daily drive. Every single person who will eventually get one of these will be a collector. And unfortunately you will rarely see done on the road. Having said that I saw two at my local Porsche dealer BBQ on Friday. One drove in and one in showroom.

@carloscontreras3633 11 ай бұрын

Wow that is a nice looking car.

@ThunderApache1604V 11 ай бұрын

Nyaah! Keep your GT3!

@bobpachner7528 11 ай бұрын

Wonderful video. Always enjoy your knowledge and enthusiasm. However, at 70 years old and having owned a number of “fun” cars, I have lost interest in the differences between Porsche models. I’m likely a minority on this channel but I’ll continue watching for the entertainment value.

@benpenagonzales6014 11 ай бұрын

That whole interior is available for £7k or so in a base 911. I specced one online. Then a litchfield ecu flash. Le bingo.

@paulcruse 11 ай бұрын

I still can’t keep up with all of the models! What’s wrong with good old L, GL, Ghia and Sport? 😀

@Will-ho1su 11 ай бұрын

A great daily that’ll never be used like one.

@amarjit_singh_ 11 ай бұрын

The 992 Carrera S and GTS with a manual are rwd, manual turbo nowadays!

@krissolson7043 11 ай бұрын

In the United States there are 6 of these available. They're all priced $300 USD over sticker.

@matthewyoung3942 11 ай бұрын

I'd have one in a heartbeat, although saying that I'd have it alongside a GT3 and a Turbo s 😂. GT3 as a Sunday morning coffee blast or Road trip car, Turbo S as the daily and the Sport Classic as the special occasion/car meet car. If I could only have 1 it would be the GT3 and if I could have 2 it would be that and the Turbo S but if I was a collector being speculative you have to go sport classic. So in short in truly Porsche fashion they've made a 911 for every occasion so we'll played Porsche.

@bryan5744 11 ай бұрын

Porsche trying to bring out their own modern “Singer” style model 🤔 Love it 😏

@Miamissimo 11 ай бұрын

Such a beauty. I mean the car.

@trenthazbroek5602 11 ай бұрын

Please tell me you're bringing the podcast to Perth Sam!

@lvervoortify 11 ай бұрын

Following your channel since the Carrera T, you should get a 991 GT3 Touring and drive it for a million miles, which is exactly what I’m going to do. Approaching 50k km so far, still a way to go 😅

@Braydenplaysallday 11 ай бұрын

My dealer has one of these listed for $650k!! You’re paying $400k ADM for a ducktail.

@georgewashington7374 11 ай бұрын

And there are DF’s with more money than sense that will pay it! Amazingly.

@simonsauter3229 11 ай бұрын

Beautiful car! Sam is one lucky lizard person 😂

@tylerbetthauser7647 11 ай бұрын

Id keep the GT3. Seen other youtubers and the like not like the power delivery in this trim

@Nyx_88888 11 ай бұрын

Were you wearing a plastic case old school tag formula one?

@Gavin-oq5tt 11 ай бұрын

… and ECU tune the GTS and maybe change the exhaust and then you have similar power to the Sport Classic. But, if it is a daily you are looking for, 4wd and DCT are awfully convenient.

@jongib6096 11 ай бұрын

YES. It’s definitely better without doubt

@AthenaSaints 11 ай бұрын

0:51, latest Porsche 911, they all look 95% similar. I am glad Porsche still offers manual, but I will never say Porsche 911's are unique beautiful cars.

@waldemarieofrow653 11 ай бұрын

I like Sam, and whilst I've watched since the 4C days, I've set a counter for every time he says "whilst" and just click off the video by the tenth time and whilst it may seem like I'd get further, I barely reach the mid-point, and whilst this may seem like a problem, I keep clicking on the next one whilst I eat my lunch