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Who is this machine for? It's for ME! It's absolutely perfect. It's the greatest machine ever made, by a huge margin. There is only one drawback. I don't have the money to buy it! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

I've been following Descent for years and just love their philosophy. The fact that when you comment on KZfaq or send an email John himself answers is huge. This machine is not built built for consumers, it's built for a community by an incredible engineer. That is what I find outstanding, they manage to be a profitable company by being open source and staying close to the community. That is just inspiring. I still hope to get one one day to go along with my Descent thermometer and milk jug, yes, I started small by buying those 😂

I have owned a DE1 Pro for over 2 years now. I agree with everything in this review, which is far and away the best review of the machine I have ever seen. Bravo!

Great review. I have owned a DE1 for almost 2 years now. Having owned a GS3/MP, La Spaziale S1, an Isomac Tea, and numerous other machines, I can say that none even come close to the DE1 in terms of consistency and capabilities. If you are buying a machine for aesthetics and not the espresso it produces, you would be better of traditional. If you want the most flexible and consistent output, the DE1 is by far the best machine available. While I understand you comment regarding the cup warming capability, I will gladly trade the warm up time vs having a "space heater" sitting on my counter. The DE1 comes up to temperature in less than 4 minutes vs over 20 for the GS3. While I had to adjust my workflow, I no longer even think about it. What John and the team at Decent have created is absolutely the state of the art in espresso production.

Very fair review that perfectly describes the machine. This has been the best coffee experience I've ever encountered and ownership of the machine comes with a high level of company support.

Man, I have had mine for a year now and I can’t agree more. Very good review!

It’s because of you that I now own a Breville Barista Pro. I know this has nothing to do with this video, but, it’s a testament to how awesome a presenter and teacher you are.

videoing every machine leaving the factory has been an idea I ve had with dealing with problematic shipping/production as a small startup, nice to see someone actually did it

You say it's a tool and a test bench, and I think that's true, but the reason I was an early adopter and the reason why I don't plan on switching any time soon is for what I call, "great walk-up-ability" meaning that I can just walk up to it, pull a shot, and know what I'm going to get. I found a profile that I like, a brew ratio that works for most coffees, and I very rarely deviate from that experience.

Thanks so much for an excellent review! I'm about 3 months behind you in DE1 ownership, and it's been so much fun. Lance compared the DE1 to a Tesla, and I think this is so apt. Most espresso machines will degrade in value and functionality as soon as you get it. The DE1 is unique in that it improves over time, through software updates like a Tesla. The analogy continues with how the DE1 treats efficiency. Boiler machines are inherently more inefficient and radiate a lot of waste heat. This is put to some use in a cup warmer, but it's important to note that it's because there's a large boiler (or two) leaking heat. Compare this to a gas engine that also radiates a lot of waste heat that is then used to heat the cabin for "free", but are actually only 35% efficient. A criticism of electric cars is that their efficiency goes down in cooler weather, but I argue it's opposite and that you're consciously heating your car when you need to and saving that energy when it's warm and you don't. The lack of an active cup warmer on the DE1 follows this same logic. You can also see this with the water tap on boiler machines. As most are connected to the steam boiler, the water is usually way too hot and highly mineralized through the creation of steam (I think the tap is traditionally there just to empty the boiler and wash the portafilter!). The hot water spout on the DE1 isn't perfect and a bit slow, but it's at the right temperature and mineral composition. One note is on manual control. You can actually control flow or pressure in real-time with the GHC by dragging your finger around the dial. While not as tactile and satisfying as a manual lever, this with SEP is how several classic lever machines were modeled, like the Leva. I think this feature is currently overshadowed by all the new profiles available (I swear I'll try Extractamundo one day), but it's there when we need it. Have you tried the tea portafilter yet? I think it's sneakily one of the best accessories for the DE1. You're able to automate a gong fu style tea in 3 minutes. I've modded a few of the profiles to stop on weight (much more precise), and have had excellent results. Any interest in a 3D printed drip tray indicator? I've made one for my setup with the Sheldon drip tray (both the tray and the indicator work great!), and I think I'll extend the design to the stock and Euan trays. Excited to learn the DE1 with your channel!

This was a very useful review. I was looking at this as an option, but don't think I am ready for it yet. I still love the tactile aspect of making coffee. Fantastic non biased review. Thanks.

I absolutely love my Decent! Your reviews are extremely helpful, especially the previous DSx skin video, which clued me into all the extra functions it provided. Keep 'em coming Matt, thanks so much!

Let's appreciate how well this kid speaks.

Dear Lifestyle Lab, Having experimented with various espresso machines, and having worked with some pro systems, I was almost breathless listening to your review of this machine. Your "definition" of this device as a piece of scientific equipment was impressive and if true represents a complete change in the more "artistry" driven machines that have existed in the past, where the user had to come to know the machine intimately ( assets and more importantly faults ) and to juggle those qualities to create a quality result, and perhaps us the reason why there is such a reaction to the manner in which this machine presents itself. In all honesty if I was not a poor starving artist, I would purchase the DE1 in a heartbeat.

Thanks for the video. I'll never get that geeky about the espresso I so enjoy each morning. :)

In my opinion the hot water dispenser is actually one of the best features of the DE1. I think your problem with splashing is due to your using a scale recessed into the drip tray. I use Decent's blue tooth scale (which is quite thick) placed on top of the drip tray and don't have a problem with splashing when I make my americanos. The cup is closer to the dispenser, thus eliminating most splash. And with it's thermocoil system, you are ensured of fresh hot water - compared with stale hot water from most traditional dual boilers. The only issue with making americanos is the relatively small capacity of the water reservoir, which requires refill every fourth americano (about every other day for me.)

I run a 6 sec group head flush to warm my cup while grinding. Works for me.

I don’t know how people criticize the looks of the Decent! It looks so clean and futuristic.

I was incredibly excited about this machine, until I saw the price tag. I guess that's what happens, when you want to buy a tool, that really does everything

No matter the coffee machine you still need, Good Coffee Beans, a Good Grinder and the Ability to distribute and tamp your coffee correctly. So if the above is not done correctly the decent will be no better than any other machine.

I don't even drink coffee but this machine is awesome. After seeing this video I got the urge to have a nice cup of tea 😄

I really like your conclusion. Very concise and complete.

Excellent review - thank you! You are quickly becoming the best espresso mind. Beautiful videography as well. Bravo!

Wooo, been waiting for this!

Amazing review. I've been certain that this would be my first espresso machine for over a year now and you've only reinforced that for me.

Outstanding review! TY for sharing it with the rest of the world. Can't wait for the pour-over and tea capabilities review.

so excited to see this one posted!!! great work

ngl, that intro is fire

Excellent review... Really like the light roast experimental ability. Where the natural coffee flavours come through vs tasting different roast levels...

It looks amazing, but tbh, part of what I like about espresso is the manual process. However the inner geek in me is pointing and nodding that it wants one :D It costs 3x my current dual boiler, so I'll pass for now until prices come down or there's a future update that make it irresistible.

Wow. I've got the v1 DE1+ and it's WILD the number of improvements that they've made!

I use 2 XXLs and 1 XXXL in my coffee shop. I love the de1. I switched from the lunar+drip tray to the decent scale 1.1 where I cut out aluminum trays due to Bluetooth drop issues from the lunar

I've had a DE1Pro for almost 2 years now. This I can confidently say: It makes impossible things possible and easy things complicated.

Awesome review, thank you!! This is on my wish list once I’m able to afford it

I actallly really like how the machine looks. Other than the sucktion feet thingys.

I get all giddy when I see the Decent, just love the machine. Will be a customer as soon as I get more shot pulling experience. Will gladly give up the manual process to have the lovely data and settings present.

Excellent review. I love that you waited a long time to release it. I feel that while it can attempt to make a lever machine profile, a 58mm machine cannot reproduce the type of shot that you can get out of a 49mm or 51mm unless you use the 25g triple basket.

Love the look because it's just the right size as it will fit in a normal kitchen absolutely. There are great portable espresso machines for camping use too...a whole World worth a review to. Great watch!

Tbh, best video to date! Good job mate!

Great review. Well done!

I just ordered mine I have the jitters! I haven't been this excited for something in a long time!

Very insightful and informative review. Thank you for making the video!

Loved the intro music… feels like I’m on a journey with you!

it's like you said, a scientific device. This is the main reason it's not for me. I'd feel detached from the experience if I used a machine like this, it starts to become an automated science project instead of a making coffee experience. I'll stick with manual.

Can’t wait to never have this machine yet still watch videos on it

Just one thing. I’ve read repeatedly on the Home-Barista forum that espressos made with Decent lever profiles don’t taste the same as one’s pulled on actual lever machines. Apparently this is because the Decent cannot shower water on the puck initially with the near instantaneous force and volume of a column of water in a lever group. I think the main taste difference has to do with mouthfeel but there may be other parameters.

This is one of the few machines that intrigues me. Over the decades have owned, rebuilt and repaired lots of home and com semi-com pump and lever machines. Never had a commercial lever though, just Olympia, Pavoni, and Faemina. The Decent can be any machine you tell it to be as it can duplicate the profile of such. Minimalist clean design IMO that will do more than a big LM or Slayer for much less cost. I wonder if the ceramic trays were used to add weight to the machine? Lighter thermo machines are easier to move but can also dance on the table if the PF is locked hard. A question, can you set the brew temp to "no heat" as to pull a cold shot?

Great review as always, greets from Edmonton!

Great video. I have had my Decent for about a year now. Love the machine, company, community, etc. However, if I had any nitpicks it would be around the water storage and drip tray material. I have the white version and I find that it stains quite easily and is extremely hard to clean once that occurs. As for the water tank, if I leave the water for a few days, I do see some dust, etc floating on the surface- some people sell covers for the tank for this reason. A simple pyrex style glass or even stainless steel would be easier to clean. Otherwise no complaints 😎👍

Super comprehensive review! Owning a BDB myself, I’d love to know what you meant by at the end of the vid: “it is not the same as a tactile E61 machine”. Do you mean the automation the Decent brings? As opposed to having to manually stand there timing your shot? I am so keen getting a decent for my next machine (and likely end machine), this video has been so informative on every facet and ins and out 🙌🏼

The best review yet!

Really enjoyed watching this, despite me being a year late to the party. What is your workflow when flushing the group, considering the aftermarket drip tray, housing the Lunar?

Excellent review. Would be great to see you do tastings with the same bean but different profiles. Those B-roll shots are sweet 😏

I'm curious what the cleanup and maintenance are like, compared to a more conventional E61 single/double boiler machine. I presume the usual Cafiza for the portafilter, but what about periodic descaling? I presume no caveats there? Any other maintenance that you find you have to do more/less of? Obviously some occasional cleaning of the touchscreen as one would do with any laptop screen, yeah? Guessing it's not Gorilla Glass, since it's not exposed to the same degree of (mis)handling that your cellphone would experience.

Amazing review!

Would love to hear an update. You haven't shared as much content with your Decent as I thought you might based on this video. How are you getting on with it? How does it compare with some of the other machines? I'm in the market - is it worth the premium vs something like an Ascaso? Have you used the custom profiles as much as you thought you might?

Truly exceptional and crystal clear review of a revolutionary machine

This review is really well put together.

I saw an app update video from them recently that shows how they fixed the hot water sputteriness, and an example for heating cups! (Though, not with a dedicated heater as you mentioned.)

Love your content. Keep it up!

I think we will use these in our shop…. Nice review will subscribe

Just timing how long are your shots, adjusting the grind setting, is enough to alter the expressions of your espresso in many ways. With remarkable impact. More controls from a machine may or may not improve the extraction, but it's likely to add confusion to a novice user. The condition of a coffee is never stagnant but oxidizes all the time, which affects flow rate which in turn affects the taste. A "perfect setting" from both the grinder and espresso machine will never last. On the other hand, the extra electronics, poor serviceability will definitely haunt the user one day when the components start to fail. A simple heat exchanger is still the most ideal for performance, quality, and reliability. That's just IMHO. Am a tech and coffee specialist servicing professional espresso machines for 15 years. :o

really nice video :) would be cool video, would be happy to see your view for commercial application using Decent 😀 i am very happy as this machine is from Hong Kong my home town 😆

Please add metric units in future videos. Thank you!

Personally as much as I love this machine (cuz it's end game for coffee nerds). I can't get passed the fact that you gotta use electronics, tactile buttons etc in order to use the machine. I prefere the feel of an e61 group or like a LMLM.

Thanks for your deep reviews. Wha do you think about portafilter height is too high for a small cup and may spill coffee.? Can you buy two cups portafilter? Does it have an scale in order to weight the target shoot? Can you give a good quality option for a consumer coffee lover less than 2000 k? Thanks so much

My main concern right off the bat-how difficult is it to get replacement parts? Repairs? Being such a technical machine, will the average tech be able to troubleshoot and repair?

Can you please please review theSolis grind & infuse perfetta

You can also use the Decent to make tea!!!

It’s beautiful, but… NO - Sticking with my old-school Gaggia for now. I like the clicky switches. I can take it apart and mod it. And, I like a challenge LOL!

I wonder when they release a DE2 what the improvements would be. I hope they are able to make a cheaper entry friendly version

How does a espresso taste with this tool vs. Barrista Exp? Which one would you use on daily basis?

I watched this review a 2x playback speed to get the full caffeine jitters experience

Tell me more about Decent.... for Beginners. Will I be overwhelmed? Can I use it on "autopilot" until I want to play around?

Very interesting point regarding the water spout, I wonder what Decent has to say about it - it just seems like such an oversight?

Wow! What an AMAZING presentation looks very expensive cause I have not even seen this anywhere. Must be a thing of the future ☆ The UFO 🛸 of Coffee Machines!

Been watching for a while, love the evolutionary journey… I’m not ready for decent me thinks and your video certainly helped me to get to that conclusion. So I’m looking at the plethora of pro(ish)sumer machines. Any thoughts on the Elektra verve?

Nice informative video, can't afford the machine (maybe one day) But just wanted to ask the make of that black cup you have on the machine please as it looks really nice

This machine is what I was thinking an espresso machine should be like ? And Kept asking myself why such a machine don’t exist then found out it does and that I can’t afford it so I really hate myself right now 🙁

Amazing video again! Really useful info! In this video I think I saw a quick glimpse of the Zerowater pitcher? Would be amazing if you could one day make a video about the water you use as well. Currently I’m still buying super market water which isn’t really good for the environment and is quite expensive. I read great things about zerowater, but did read that having no minerals in your water makes your espresso taste not so great either. Love to hear your view on that. Keep up making these great videos 👏🔥

Great video, this is very intriguing and a little intimidating coming from an Apartamento 😅 How long does it take to heat up? I’m assuming you can schedule a time for it to turn on as well?

The perfect machine for someone who was with Microsoft in the 80s.

Just ordered mine this week, hopefully I don't get completely overwhelmed

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Do you recommend using a "below drip tray" scale solution over the "built in"? Yours looks slick but isnt the scale constantly getting wet?

Good review

The short burst sound from pump when it's running shots was because it makes higher flow rate as recipes require and without building up the pressure like regular machines, normally pump machine would build up its pressure within 5 to 7seconds up to 9bar, depends on what machines, and that's not good enough to explore espresso nowadays, how do you gonna achieve up to, let's say 7ml/s without the pressure builds up, short burst with two sets of pumps, however, this approach isn't possible for many other machines out there and it requires integration of hardware and software, that's root of other manufacture are lacking, or should I say that's the approach what they are not willing to take, at least my opinions. Oh, if I may, did u try the bloomging+allonge, this recipe would get you more out of your lighter beans(I don't have a Decent, but I now fully understand their approach and tested on my flow control machines with all those recipes).

Thank you for this. amazing review! one question, can't you use the steam to warm your cup?

Machine looks epic. So does the functionality. The software interface however looks like it was put together rough and quick. Needs a lot of work. Way too many buttons and options loosely grouped together in a clunky interface that looks like Windows 95.

Glad it makes a decent coffee :D :D ..... i'll show myself out!

Nice review. A nice machine and interesting but long term I would worry about what happens with these things when software goes out of date.

When I make espresso, I am not looking for a "hands-on experience". That seems like a completely different hobby to me. One that prioritizes the look and feel of a machine and not the actual outcome. My hobby is getting fantastic espresso repeatedly without negative surprises as fast as possible. I don't want to wait 15 minutes for my machine to warm up. I also like to explore different flavor profiles. This machine sounds like it's the ticket for me.

Terminator of coffee machines 😅

Is there any chance they address the lack of cup warming?

Can you give us a closer look at the Euan Lake Tray?

Why warm the cup with a kettle? Just hit the rinse button or just dose water into the cup while you grind.

Q. Does this machine have a color detector for the roasted coffee grain?at least to identify the required parameter to prepare perfect esspresso.

I want it to be all sunshine 🌞 and rainbows 🌈

I drink instant coffee from coffee powder. *grabs popcorn*