Can you share the name the music played in the intro at 0:33 sec? thx
@lubenzz2 жыл бұрын
Who is this machine for? It's for ME! It's absolutely perfect. It's the greatest machine ever made, by a huge margin. There is only one drawback. I don't have the money to buy it! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Krmpfpks2 жыл бұрын
Same here. You’ll have to add a proper grinder too, and you end up way above $4K for an espresso setup. At home, this is hardly justifiable, even though I hope I will have earned enough money to just buy one in the future.
@silo9062 Жыл бұрын
Same man
@REMY.C.2 жыл бұрын
I've been following Descent for years and just love their philosophy. The fact that when you comment on KZfaq or send an email John himself answers is huge. This machine is not built built for consumers, it's built for a community by an incredible engineer. That is what I find outstanding, they manage to be a profitable company by being open source and staying close to the community. That is just inspiring. I still hope to get one one day to go along with my Descent thermometer and milk jug, yes, I started small by buying those 😂
@PneumaticTube2 жыл бұрын
I totally understand. I'm the proud owner of multiple La Marzocco espresso and cappuccino cups from Italy. Hoping to someday own a Linea Mini.
@lenovo7999 Жыл бұрын
Decent has been around for like a blink for an eye and manufactures in China. All internals are plastic and yes open source just means clunky. Oh wow I get to use basecamp in my espresso workflow now lmao
@ericlai1160 Жыл бұрын
@@PneumaticTube lol...me too...me too
@phoenixrising4073 Жыл бұрын
@@lenovo7999 Linux is open source. I guess it's kinda clunky, but there is no denying its power.
@goodier56 Жыл бұрын
I have owned a DE1 Pro for over 2 years now. I agree with everything in this review, which is far and away the best review of the machine I have ever seen. Bravo!
@Riprazor2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have owned a DE1 for almost 2 years now. Having owned a GS3/MP, La Spaziale S1, an Isomac Tea, and numerous other machines, I can say that none even come close to the DE1 in terms of consistency and capabilities. If you are buying a machine for aesthetics and not the espresso it produces, you would be better of traditional. If you want the most flexible and consistent output, the DE1 is by far the best machine available. While I understand you comment regarding the cup warming capability, I will gladly trade the warm up time vs having a "space heater" sitting on my counter. The DE1 comes up to temperature in less than 4 minutes vs over 20 for the GS3. While I had to adjust my workflow, I no longer even think about it. What John and the team at Decent have created is absolutely the state of the art in espresso production.
@marehetdejager6726 Жыл бұрын
Hi Barry any way I can message you regarding the options on the machines. Can not decide between Bianca lelit, GS3 , Eagle one and DE1. Please help
@Rick94822 жыл бұрын
Very fair review that perfectly describes the machine. This has been the best coffee experience I've ever encountered and ownership of the machine comes with a high level of company support.
@rodneyn.gonzalez-rivera50932 жыл бұрын
Man, I have had mine for a year now and I can’t agree more. Very good review!
@cpg80002 жыл бұрын
It’s because of you that I now own a Breville Barista Pro. I know this has nothing to do with this video, but, it’s a testament to how awesome a presenter and teacher you are.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
That means a lot, thank you so much 🙏
@BankruptGreek2 жыл бұрын
videoing every machine leaving the factory has been an idea I ve had with dealing with problematic shipping/production as a small startup, nice to see someone actually did it
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Makes total sense if you have the resources to implement!
@UltramaticOrange Жыл бұрын
You say it's a tool and a test bench, and I think that's true, but the reason I was an early adopter and the reason why I don't plan on switching any time soon is for what I call, "great walk-up-ability" meaning that I can just walk up to it, pull a shot, and know what I'm going to get. I found a profile that I like, a brew ratio that works for most coffees, and I very rarely deviate from that experience.
@daRock12122 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for an excellent review! I'm about 3 months behind you in DE1 ownership, and it's been so much fun. Lance compared the DE1 to a Tesla, and I think this is so apt. Most espresso machines will degrade in value and functionality as soon as you get it. The DE1 is unique in that it improves over time, through software updates like a Tesla. The analogy continues with how the DE1 treats efficiency. Boiler machines are inherently more inefficient and radiate a lot of waste heat. This is put to some use in a cup warmer, but it's important to note that it's because there's a large boiler (or two) leaking heat. Compare this to a gas engine that also radiates a lot of waste heat that is then used to heat the cabin for "free", but are actually only 35% efficient. A criticism of electric cars is that their efficiency goes down in cooler weather, but I argue it's opposite and that you're consciously heating your car when you need to and saving that energy when it's warm and you don't. The lack of an active cup warmer on the DE1 follows this same logic. You can also see this with the water tap on boiler machines. As most are connected to the steam boiler, the water is usually way too hot and highly mineralized through the creation of steam (I think the tap is traditionally there just to empty the boiler and wash the portafilter!). The hot water spout on the DE1 isn't perfect and a bit slow, but it's at the right temperature and mineral composition. One note is on manual control. You can actually control flow or pressure in real-time with the GHC by dragging your finger around the dial. While not as tactile and satisfying as a manual lever, this with SEP is how several classic lever machines were modeled, like the Leva. I think this feature is currently overshadowed by all the new profiles available (I swear I'll try Extractamundo one day), but it's there when we need it. Have you tried the tea portafilter yet? I think it's sneakily one of the best accessories for the DE1. You're able to automate a gong fu style tea in 3 minutes. I've modded a few of the profiles to stop on weight (much more precise), and have had excellent results. Any interest in a 3D printed drip tray indicator? I've made one for my setup with the Sheldon drip tray (both the tray and the indicator work great!), and I think I'll extend the design to the stock and Euan trays. Excited to learn the DE1 with your channel!
@gospelofrye68812 жыл бұрын
> You're able to automate a gong fu style tea in 3 minutes. Surely, "automated gongfu" is an oxymoron. > Most espresso machines will degrade in value and functionality as soon as you get it. At this tier? Most at this price level are "heirloom" grade machines, or at least that's the intention. I don't think we're going to see a lot of Linea Minis in landfill (at least until society collapses, anyway). And what do you mean by "degrade in functionality"? A 40 year-old machine that has been maintained/restored has the same functionality it had when new, surely? In fact, my Mara X GAINED functionality when I added a flow profiler to it. And when it comes to "wearing out", the pumps, pipes, tubes, valves etc... the DE1 isn't that different to any other machine in this price range, is it?
@daRock12122 жыл бұрын
@@gospelofrye6881 If we say gong fu tea is tea done with great skill, then I'm more than happy to offload that skill to a computer :) 100% agree with you that a well maintained prosumer machine can operate very well for a very long time. But I was more referencing its functionality eroding against the changing state of coffee. Many machines are engineered to spec and can repeatably meet that spec. When spec changes, like when new brew methods come into fashion, it takes fairly major upgrades to match those methods. In comparison the DE1 is over engineered in anticipation of new brew methods, and meeting those specs is often just a push of software. For example stop on weight, stop on ratio, adaptive pressure and flow profiling (in one shot), long Slayer-style preinfusion, and temperature profiling were not available on release but have since been made available. Whether any of this has value to a user depends, but they are available.
@andrewwhisson142 жыл бұрын
This was a very useful review. I was looking at this as an option, but don't think I am ready for it yet. I still love the tactile aspect of making coffee. Fantastic non biased review. Thanks.
@thejoep692 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my Decent! Your reviews are extremely helpful, especially the previous DSx skin video, which clued me into all the extra functions it provided. Keep 'em coming Matt, thanks so much!
@Rodrigo82 жыл бұрын
Let's appreciate how well this kid speaks.
@blanchjoe14812 жыл бұрын
Dear Lifestyle Lab, Having experimented with various espresso machines, and having worked with some pro systems, I was almost breathless listening to your review of this machine. Your "definition" of this device as a piece of scientific equipment was impressive and if true represents a complete change in the more "artistry" driven machines that have existed in the past, where the user had to come to know the machine intimately ( assets and more importantly faults ) and to juggle those qualities to create a quality result, and perhaps us the reason why there is such a reaction to the manner in which this machine presents itself. In all honesty if I was not a poor starving artist, I would purchase the DE1 in a heartbeat.
@tictocbang74433 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'll never get that geeky about the espresso I so enjoy each morning. :)
@pmv91262 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the hot water dispenser is actually one of the best features of the DE1. I think your problem with splashing is due to your using a scale recessed into the drip tray. I use Decent's blue tooth scale (which is quite thick) placed on top of the drip tray and don't have a problem with splashing when I make my americanos. The cup is closer to the dispenser, thus eliminating most splash. And with it's thermocoil system, you are ensured of fresh hot water - compared with stale hot water from most traditional dual boilers. The only issue with making americanos is the relatively small capacity of the water reservoir, which requires refill every fourth americano (about every other day for me.)
@rodneyn.gonzalez-rivera50932 жыл бұрын
I have the same recessed scale as he has and my solution was to lower the temperature of the water to 175 F and all the splashing ended.
@lfoggy30612 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to connect the machine to your household water supply?
@DamianSheesh2 жыл бұрын
@@lfoggy3061 Yes, you can buy both a catering kit, which comes with a pump that you can feed into a larger source of water, or a plumbing kit which allows you to connect it to a water supply. It kicks on to refill the tank at whatever level you ask it to.
@JuanRomanMagdaraog2 жыл бұрын
I run a 6 sec group head flush to warm my cup while grinding. Works for me.
@Senshi_o2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how people criticize the looks of the Decent! It looks so clean and futuristic.
@Cenot4ph2 жыл бұрын
because it lacks character of traditional espresso machines
@persianwingman2 жыл бұрын
The proportions are a bit off, although the white XL machines look nicer IMO.
@finder22672 жыл бұрын
Decent is far from a clean design. it just looks ok.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
It’s as if (now hear me out) people have different design tastes and opinions 🤔
@finder22672 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ of course, and I did not say anything negative (yet.) from an industrial design perspective the decent is not clean. There a lot of little things that brake the continuity of the design language December is attempting to use. Btw, does the water reservoir not have a lid?
@dinckelman2 жыл бұрын
I was incredibly excited about this machine, until I saw the price tag. I guess that's what happens, when you want to buy a tool, that really does everything
@tonylawlor88332 жыл бұрын
No matter the coffee machine you still need, Good Coffee Beans, a Good Grinder and the Ability to distribute and tamp your coffee correctly. So if the above is not done correctly the decent will be no better than any other machine.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
True! Except in the case of the adaptive profiles mentioned
@outsideworld762 жыл бұрын
I don't even drink coffee but this machine is awesome. After seeing this video I got the urge to have a nice cup of tea 😄
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
It makes some pretty amazing tea too 😉
@outsideworld762 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ I agree this machine has all that it takes to explore the science of making a fine cup of tea 😃
@TomJones-tx7pb2 жыл бұрын
I really like your conclusion. Very concise and complete.
@andras888 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review - thank you! You are quickly becoming the best espresso mind. Beautiful videography as well. Bravo!
@jctothel2 жыл бұрын
Wooo, been waiting for this!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Long time in the making!
@cheesychester96472 жыл бұрын
Amazing review. I've been certain that this would be my first espresso machine for over a year now and you've only reinforced that for me.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
That would be one heck of a first machine! Just make sure you have budget allocated to a grinder that can do it justice
@chrisd75012 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review! TY for sharing it with the rest of the world. Can't wait for the pour-over and tea capabilities review.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Definitely coming up in future videos!
@JoeyVaracalli2 жыл бұрын
so excited to see this one posted!!! great work
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe!
@fumbean2 жыл бұрын
ngl, that intro is fire
@fern82202 жыл бұрын
Excellent review... Really like the light roast experimental ability. Where the natural coffee flavours come through vs tasting different roast levels...
@Weeem2 жыл бұрын
It looks amazing, but tbh, part of what I like about espresso is the manual process. However the inner geek in me is pointing and nodding that it wants one :D It costs 3x my current dual boiler, so I'll pass for now until prices come down or there's a future update that make it irresistible.
@UltramaticOrange Жыл бұрын
Wow. I've got the v1 DE1+ and it's WILD the number of improvements that they've made!
@StephenProsserHCC2 жыл бұрын
I use 2 XXLs and 1 XXXL in my coffee shop. I love the de1. I switched from the lunar+drip tray to the decent scale 1.1 where I cut out aluminum trays due to Bluetooth drop issues from the lunar
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard some complaints about Bluetooth drop, but have yet to experience it so didn’t dig too deep into it. So you find the Decent scale connectivity more stable?
@StephenProsserHCC2 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ most definitely. However, I have mine always plugged into a USB hub under my counter as the battery is poor on them. Acaia batteries are poor for how much I use them in a day as well. I always found that the acaia BT would drop when the scales would get hot from overuse or when water might drop on top of the scale...which can happen quite often during the day
@tingshanfrancisho73112 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ i used the Decent scale since the release (first batch collected from the DE factory) but until a few weeks ago, I switch to the Lunar and never go back. The connection on the Decent scales would occasionally drop but one you pair the Lunar, they stuck with each other.
@mharad2 Жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ Decent says they're coming out with a new scale - 1/2 the height of current and strong bluetooth connectivity. by year end.
@bobs44293 ай бұрын
I've had a DE1Pro for almost 2 years now. This I can confidently say: It makes impossible things possible and easy things complicated.
@MuhanadOmar2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, thank you!! This is on my wish list once I’m able to afford it
@akokada9732 жыл бұрын
I actallly really like how the machine looks. Other than the sucktion feet thingys.
@emil_k2 жыл бұрын
I get all giddy when I see the Decent, just love the machine. Will be a customer as soon as I get more shot pulling experience. Will gladly give up the manual process to have the lovely data and settings present.
@lewispaterson75052 жыл бұрын
You don't need any shot pulling experience to get it. I went from zero experience to a Decent machine and the community and profiles are so great you will be making great espresso in no time.
@dudea33782 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I love that you waited a long time to release it. I feel that while it can attempt to make a lever machine profile, a 58mm machine cannot reproduce the type of shot that you can get out of a 49mm or 51mm unless you use the 25g triple basket.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! What do you feel the shots are missing due to the wider basket?
@dudea33782 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ the wider baskets require a super fine grind, which makes it difficult to get even flow. Even if there isn't visual signs of channeling, typically there will be early blonding. The narrower baskets allow for a coarser ground due to a taller puck height, which will give more even flow. This way you don't have to choose between body and clarity -- you can have both. If you want to try it, get yourself a 25g basket for your decent, grind coarser, pack it full and tamp the hell out of it.
@gk54502 жыл бұрын
True, even John is now experimenting with baskets that have smaller bottom diameter. These would be sold separately. If a few people confirm that the DE1 can at that time truly replicate the lever profile taste (consensus is on the no side now), I may consider it - but not there yet.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting discussion! The finer grind required for 58mm can be a negative in some cases
@dmackle38492 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ if you do test a 25g then I’d be curious about the need to “tamp the hell out of it” in light of what we learned from your previous tamp vs water pressure test suite. I’m still quietly coveting a Decent. But I suspect I’ll need a genuine commercial business case to warrant such investment. Quitting coffee is easy: I do it every other month.
@doolittlegeorge2 жыл бұрын
Love the look because it's just the right size as it will fit in a normal kitchen absolutely. There are great portable espresso machines for camping use too...a whole World worth a review to. Great watch!
@mixhpun2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, best video to date! Good job mate!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael, appreciate it!
@mtbgo78602 жыл бұрын
Great review. Well done!
@DevReaper2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered mine I have the jitters! I haven't been this excited for something in a long time!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Woohoo!
@wisruteb2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful and informative review. Thank you for making the video!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@jasonknapp78602 жыл бұрын
Loved the intro music… feels like I’m on a journey with you!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Thought I had to put in a little extra due to the 6 month wait for this video, haha
@Cenot4ph2 жыл бұрын
it's like you said, a scientific device. This is the main reason it's not for me. I'd feel detached from the experience if I used a machine like this, it starts to become an automated science project instead of a making coffee experience. I'll stick with manual.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that!
@Cenot4ph2 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ it's a great machine if you want to experiment or want very consistent coffee. Thanks for the review!
@tingshanfrancisho73112 жыл бұрын
@@Cenot4ph I would say that in the normal week days while you have No time, No mood, or Not enough bean to dial in .... DE is the most reliable machine to provide you the quickest(heating up only takes 4 mins in where I am) and the most consistent cup of espresso. I only play with it when I have extra time in the weekend.
@Cenot4ph2 жыл бұрын
@@tingshanfrancisho7311 i think you hit the nail there on the head. Its all about what fits for your lifestyle. For me coffee is not just the end product, it's also making it
@karlkeil072 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to never have this machine yet still watch videos on it
@matthewhoffman68682 жыл бұрын
Just one thing. I’ve read repeatedly on the Home-Barista forum that espressos made with Decent lever profiles don’t taste the same as one’s pulled on actual lever machines. Apparently this is because the Decent cannot shower water on the puck initially with the near instantaneous force and volume of a column of water in a lever group. I think the main taste difference has to do with mouthfeel but there may be other parameters.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
To properly hit the puck with instant pressure there is a way to properly configure the shot flow deeper into the settings It’s essentially like dumping the clutch on a car, I’ll try to dig into this further, forget where I saw it
@s968222 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few machines that intrigues me. Over the decades have owned, rebuilt and repaired lots of home and com semi-com pump and lever machines. Never had a commercial lever though, just Olympia, Pavoni, and Faemina. The Decent can be any machine you tell it to be as it can duplicate the profile of such. Minimalist clean design IMO that will do more than a big LM or Slayer for much less cost. I wonder if the ceramic trays were used to add weight to the machine? Lighter thermo machines are easier to move but can also dance on the table if the PF is locked hard. A question, can you set the brew temp to "no heat" as to pull a cold shot?
@Wesmosis2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always, greets from Edmonton!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦
@jasongans2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have had my Decent for about a year now. Love the machine, company, community, etc. However, if I had any nitpicks it would be around the water storage and drip tray material. I have the white version and I find that it stains quite easily and is extremely hard to clean once that occurs. As for the water tank, if I leave the water for a few days, I do see some dust, etc floating on the surface- some people sell covers for the tank for this reason. A simple pyrex style glass or even stainless steel would be easier to clean. Otherwise no complaints 😎👍
@adammacfarland64152 жыл бұрын
The water reservoir design was something that left me scratching my head compared to how ‘controlled’ the rest of the machine is.
@jasongans2 жыл бұрын
@@adammacfarland6415 yeah, I travel quite a bit, and after a few days/week of no use.. the water evaporates/ picks up some particles. And the drip tray becomes quite hard to clean once any coffee dries.
@Arg3ntis Жыл бұрын
Super comprehensive review! Owning a BDB myself, I’d love to know what you meant by at the end of the vid: “it is not the same as a tactile E61 machine”. Do you mean the automation the Decent brings? As opposed to having to manually stand there timing your shot? I am so keen getting a decent for my next machine (and likely end machine), this video has been so informative on every facet and ins and out 🙌🏼
@LifestyleLab_ Жыл бұрын
I more mean the tactile experience of moving a metal lever with a cam to start / stop the shots on an E61. Turning a big valve to start / stop steaming. Seeing the water come shooting out of the solenoid when the shot ends… makes you feel like your a train conductor or something, puts on a show for the guests!
@Alanwunsch2 жыл бұрын
The best review yet!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan, much appreciated!
@user-cf6vd5gg1g6 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed watching this, despite me being a year late to the party. What is your workflow when flushing the group, considering the aftermarket drip tray, housing the Lunar?
@joeCYsiu2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Would be great to see you do tastings with the same bean but different profiles. Those B-roll shots are sweet 😏
@jimcarroll97382 жыл бұрын
I'm curious what the cleanup and maintenance are like, compared to a more conventional E61 single/double boiler machine. I presume the usual Cafiza for the portafilter, but what about periodic descaling? I presume no caveats there? Any other maintenance that you find you have to do more/less of? Obviously some occasional cleaning of the touchscreen as one would do with any laptop screen, yeah? Guessing it's not Gorilla Glass, since it's not exposed to the same degree of (mis)handling that your cellphone would experience.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Cleaning is all handled very easily through the interface. Cafiza backflushs have their own “profile” that the machine will run. Descaling can be done easily through the menu system :) I find this machine to be far more hands-off than an E61 because the drip tray doesn’t fill up anywhere near as quickly, and things like purging the group head and steam wand can be automated
@jimcarroll97382 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ oh that's great info, thanks!
@AlexZapata-2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review!
@mfid02 ай бұрын
Would love to hear an update. You haven't shared as much content with your Decent as I thought you might based on this video. How are you getting on with it? How does it compare with some of the other machines? I'm in the market - is it worth the premium vs something like an Ascaso? Have you used the custom profiles as much as you thought you might?
@sanjaya7182 жыл бұрын
Truly exceptional and crystal clear review of a revolutionary machine
@adammacfarland64152 жыл бұрын
This review is really well put together.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@progenitor_amborella Жыл бұрын
I saw an app update video from them recently that shows how they fixed the hot water sputteriness, and an example for heating cups! (Though, not with a dedicated heater as you mentioned.)
@alexmontanus2 жыл бұрын
Love your content. Keep it up!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex!
@jaeluatl2 жыл бұрын
I think we will use these in our shop…. Nice review will subscribe
@qwe74102 жыл бұрын
Just timing how long are your shots, adjusting the grind setting, is enough to alter the expressions of your espresso in many ways. With remarkable impact. More controls from a machine may or may not improve the extraction, but it's likely to add confusion to a novice user. The condition of a coffee is never stagnant but oxidizes all the time, which affects flow rate which in turn affects the taste. A "perfect setting" from both the grinder and espresso machine will never last. On the other hand, the extra electronics, poor serviceability will definitely haunt the user one day when the components start to fail. A simple heat exchanger is still the most ideal for performance, quality, and reliability. That's just IMHO. Am a tech and coffee specialist servicing professional espresso machines for 15 years. :o
@dickensyuen61372 жыл бұрын
really nice video :) would be cool video, would be happy to see your view for commercial application using Decent 😀 i am very happy as this machine is from Hong Kong my home town 😆
@XPengMotors2 жыл бұрын
Please add metric units in future videos. Thank you!
@MrGalaktick512 жыл бұрын
Personally as much as I love this machine (cuz it's end game for coffee nerds). I can't get passed the fact that you gotta use electronics, tactile buttons etc in order to use the machine. I prefere the feel of an e61 group or like a LMLM.
@yinyang592 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your deep reviews. Wha do you think about portafilter height is too high for a small cup and may spill coffee.? Can you buy two cups portafilter? Does it have an scale in order to weight the target shoot? Can you give a good quality option for a consumer coffee lover less than 2000 k? Thanks so much
@sns4jc6 ай бұрын
My main concern right off the bat-how difficult is it to get replacement parts? Repairs? Being such a technical machine, will the average tech be able to troubleshoot and repair?
@LifestyleLab_6 ай бұрын
Nope! The machine definitely needs to be sent back to Decent for major repairs. Minor troubleshooting they're very responsive and will send you instructions / parts as needed. But this is definitely not a machine you can take to any espresso retailer and have fixed like a traditional boiler E61 or something else that a plumber could probably fix.
@revoltoff2 жыл бұрын
Can you please please review theSolis grind & infuse perfetta
@mintmindy2 жыл бұрын
You can also use the Decent to make tea!!!
@ritaweygint403811 ай бұрын
It’s beautiful, but… NO - Sticking with my old-school Gaggia for now. I like the clicky switches. I can take it apart and mod it. And, I like a challenge LOL!
@wile123456 Жыл бұрын
I wonder when they release a DE2 what the improvements would be. I hope they are able to make a cheaper entry friendly version
@2nddragoon Жыл бұрын
How does a espresso taste with this tool vs. Barrista Exp? Which one would you use on daily basis?
@marierogers1865 Жыл бұрын
I watched this review a 2x playback speed to get the full caffeine jitters experience
@mharad2 Жыл бұрын
Tell me more about Decent.... for Beginners. Will I be overwhelmed? Can I use it on "autopilot" until I want to play around?
@LifestyleLab_ Жыл бұрын
You won’t be a overwhelmed. Like I said, it’s a bit of a split personality. It has profiles that help beginners, and also tones of data for experts
@TheBrokenEclipse2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting point regarding the water spout, I wonder what Decent has to say about it - it just seems like such an oversight?
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Possible hardware fix in future generations, but not necessarily something that can be fixed by software or programming unfortunately
@benoitgermain60472 жыл бұрын
Decent is working on an update to improve the water spout. What I do is pour the water in my cup (for Americanos) then pull my espresso shot in it.
@mintmindy2 жыл бұрын
@@benoitgermain6047 yay this is very helpful information! thank you :)
@cosmeticsandpurseswithevelyn2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What an AMAZING presentation looks very expensive cause I have not even seen this anywhere. Must be a thing of the future ☆ The UFO 🛸 of Coffee Machines!
@shahidahmaddin3572 жыл бұрын
Been watching for a while, love the evolutionary journey… I’m not ready for decent me thinks and your video certainly helped me to get to that conclusion. So I’m looking at the plethora of pro(ish)sumer machines. Any thoughts on the Elektra verve?
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
I see it go on sale quite often! But otherwise no, I don’t have any direct experience with Elektra that I can draw from
@shahidahmaddin3572 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ appreciate your reply, “..on sale quite often..” :( I’m in Doha Qatar) based on availability looks like a Linea then..?
@shahidahmaddin3572 жыл бұрын
That said, I liked the pressure and temperature profiling etc just unsure about longevity and quality
@ColdCoffeePhotography Жыл бұрын
Nice informative video, can't afford the machine (maybe one day) But just wanted to ask the make of that black cup you have on the machine please as it looks really nice
@LifestyleLab_ Жыл бұрын
It is very nice! 7 GREAT Cups for Coffee Lovers kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otZmdNOQs9bRnoE.html
@silo9062 Жыл бұрын
This machine is what I was thinking an espresso machine should be like ? And Kept asking myself why such a machine don’t exist then found out it does and that I can’t afford it so I really hate myself right now 🙁
@JeroenReumkens2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video again! Really useful info! In this video I think I saw a quick glimpse of the Zerowater pitcher? Would be amazing if you could one day make a video about the water you use as well. Currently I’m still buying super market water which isn’t really good for the environment and is quite expensive. I read great things about zerowater, but did read that having no minerals in your water makes your espresso taste not so great either. Love to hear your view on that. Keep up making these great videos 👏🔥
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
That’s actually a Brita not zero water. You absolutely need some minerals, not only for taste but also for machine safety! My current setup is using a half packet of Perfect Coffee Water mix into 4L of distilled water. This puts the PPM at around 75 which is right in a safe range for espresso machines
@JeroenReumkens2 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ thanks for your quick reply man! Gonna try out the perfect coffee water mix!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Just don’t use it at “full strength” otherwise you’ll be a little too hard for espresso machine use (in my opinion)
@JeroenReumkens2 жыл бұрын
Just checked. The water I currently use is about 33PPM. So slightly low. Will have to see how to get the perfect coffee water to the Netherlands since the shipping of one pack is already 40$ 🥲
@sippysippywakewake Жыл бұрын
Great video, this is very intriguing and a little intimidating coming from an Apartamento 😅 How long does it take to heat up? I’m assuming you can schedule a time for it to turn on as well?
@LifestyleLab_ Жыл бұрын
Heat up is around 1-2 minutes because it’s using thermoblocks, not a traditional boiler Yes, you can absolutely program it when to turn on :)
@TigerDude3332 жыл бұрын
The perfect machine for someone who was with Microsoft in the 80s.
@ronnieyuen43092 жыл бұрын
Just ordered mine this week, hopefully I don't get completely overwhelmed
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
You’ll be fine :) Just start of with the default profile and explore deeper from there when you’re ready
@potkettle2 жыл бұрын
I found that the Classic Lever profile was even more forgiving than the default, and has become my go to for medium roasts.
@legioner3047 ай бұрын
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@LifestyleLab_7 ай бұрын
Correct
@robertusga4 ай бұрын
Do you recommend using a "below drip tray" scale solution over the "built in"? Yours looks slick but isnt the scale constantly getting wet?
@LifestyleLab_4 ай бұрын
If you don't mind the appearance, I'd 100% recommend a bellow the tray solution. With the in tray, you either trust the water resistance of the Acaia, or what I do is I have a purging cup that I always have on the scale when not brewing for drips etc
@vietle81572 жыл бұрын
Good review
@checkwhatsleft45652 жыл бұрын
The short burst sound from pump when it's running shots was because it makes higher flow rate as recipes require and without building up the pressure like regular machines, normally pump machine would build up its pressure within 5 to 7seconds up to 9bar, depends on what machines, and that's not good enough to explore espresso nowadays, how do you gonna achieve up to, let's say 7ml/s without the pressure builds up, short burst with two sets of pumps, however, this approach isn't possible for many other machines out there and it requires integration of hardware and software, that's root of other manufacture are lacking, or should I say that's the approach what they are not willing to take, at least my opinions. Oh, if I may, did u try the bloomging+allonge, this recipe would get you more out of your lighter beans(I don't have a Decent, but I now fully understand their approach and tested on my flow control machines with all those recipes).
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Yes I mention the Blooming profile specifically in the espresso section of this review. It’s quite incredible and revealing. Allonge has a similar effect, but slightly more toned back than Blooming, and easier to dial in.
@checkwhatsleft45652 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ I was saying that try bloom combine Allongé, after pause blooming was normal pressure profile till the end, but try use Allongé style after pause, it means that grind a little bit cause, let the high flow goes through the puck, say 4:1, 5:1 in the cup, it delivers more than just blooming, and John mentioned it as well in their stream.
@mohamedakhand2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. amazing review! one question, can't you use the steam to warm your cup?
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
You could, not the most elegant solution, but possible. Could also use the hot water spout. I am nitpicking, but nothing beats just pulling a hot dry cup off the top of a machine
@mohamedakhand2 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ gotcha, keep it up!
@slappadabass19772 жыл бұрын
Machine looks epic. So does the functionality. The software interface however looks like it was put together rough and quick. Needs a lot of work. Way too many buttons and options loosely grouped together in a clunky interface that looks like Windows 95.
@outburst812 жыл бұрын
Glad it makes a decent coffee :D :D ..... i'll show myself out!
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Buh da bum…. Ching!
@chris96502 жыл бұрын
Nice review. A nice machine and interesting but long term I would worry about what happens with these things when software goes out of date.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
They’re constantly being updated over the air, no worries about going out of date :) and the software is completely open source, so even if Decent were to go somewhere, the software will continue to be developed and supported which is pretty cool
@chris96502 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ fair enough. Nice machine, and I hope it serves you well and meets your needs in espresso making.
@robertusga6 ай бұрын
When I make espresso, I am not looking for a "hands-on experience". That seems like a completely different hobby to me. One that prioritizes the look and feel of a machine and not the actual outcome. My hobby is getting fantastic espresso repeatedly without negative surprises as fast as possible. I don't want to wait 15 minutes for my machine to warm up. I also like to explore different flavor profiles. This machine sounds like it's the ticket for me.
@LifestyleLab_6 ай бұрын
Hit the nail on the head. If you just want convenience and total control and don't care about "tactile feel" then this is a super option
@robertusga6 ай бұрын
@LifestyleLab_ Thanks! I keep hearing that the only thing a Decent cannot match is a lever experience. What flavor / mouthfeel is missed with the decent, and would the same statement be true for let's say a Lelit Bianca v3 or any other e61 type machine?
@LifestyleLab_6 ай бұрын
I personally don't agree that it doesn't replicate a lever profile well. It just needs to be set up right
@robertusga6 ай бұрын
@LifestyleLab_ That is great to hear. Now I literally have 0 reasons left not to pull the trigger on the Decent DE1 Pro 😃. Thank you for your guidance along the way. Loving your videos!
@aquaman5464 Жыл бұрын
Terminator of coffee machines 😅
@ianmikutel Жыл бұрын
Is there any chance they address the lack of cup warming?
@edwardlelchitsky77962 жыл бұрын
Can you give us a closer look at the Euan Lake Tray?
@brad75712 жыл бұрын
Why warm the cup with a kettle? Just hit the rinse button or just dose water into the cup while you grind.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Rinse button would introduce dirty water to the cup, water spout was splashy as discussed. I tried many workflows, and that was simply the one that worked best :)
@brad75712 жыл бұрын
@@LifestyleLab_ But if you didn't do a flush or 2nd flush - that dirty water just ends up in your coffee. My 12oz Bodum double walls are high enough to contain any splash. From a workflow - you lower the electric bill, get an extra flush, and warm the cup all in one press. But I do admire the purist viewpoint. I just do it while I dose and grind, then toss the extra and brew.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
Your workflow certainly works too :) Love hearing the differences in the way people use the same machine!
@wahabq812 жыл бұрын
Q. Does this machine have a color detector for the roasted coffee grain?at least to identify the required parameter to prepare perfect esspresso.
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of such a system… that would be next to impossible to implement
@JimboJones992 жыл бұрын
I want it to be all sunshine 🌞 and rainbows 🌈
@LifestyleLab_2 жыл бұрын
🌈 🌈 🌈
@EJElectric2 жыл бұрын
I drink instant coffee from coffee powder. *grabs popcorn*