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I have a science degree in Oceanography, and my hobby is underwater archaeology. In the past and just to a lesser extent today the quick way to get a lot of people in that field angry at you is to even suggest that North and South America had any important cultures to study. The past mistakes makes it hard for people to get past ideas of who was important and when. There is a great need for a fresh approach to the entire field. I agree with the previous poster that we need to get a LIDAR map of that entire area just to start unraveling the great achievements of our human family. Maybe learning to be humble at the fact we stand on tall shoulders.

I live about 30 miles from this site and I've visited these sites many, many times. Its only one of many interesting places in the Shawnee National Forest. Most believe the huge cliff faces were carved by retreating glaciers after the last Ice Age. What's even more fascinating about the area is the dates carved in the rock faces of some of those cliffs. The whole area was used by Jesse James and other famous wild west outlaws as hideouts due to the many caves and naturally defensible locations. Thankfully it's a protected area and most of it has gone untouched by man...well by development at least. Like another commentor mentioned, SIU-C is only a few miles away and it's very popular with college students and others as a serene weekend getaway. I highly recommend people go visit this site, it's a hidden gem.

I went to school at SIU carbondale, and we did some heavy partying out at Giant City. There's a lot of out of place type stuff there, some inscriptions we made in the 1800s and remain today. I should go back just for the nostalgia. Thanks Chuck.

This is my home park. I believe there are eleven of these stone forts in southern Illinois. There are shelter bluffs scattered all around the area. I've found points, blanks of chert, coloidals and mattates. The park gets its name from huge fissures that were thought to be sidewalks for giants. The town of Makanda sits by the west entrance to the park. Happy trails!

"Ritual" is archeologist speak for "We have no effen clue."

Experts are certain that it was an ancient pre-historic fort...or a barber shop...or a library... or a convenience store...but not a casino.

I lived in Cdale for 10 years, and have been hoping someone would cover giant city for a long time!! Thank you!!!

Garden of the gods is another cool park in Southern Illinois. Panther Den, Little grand canyon, and fern cliff are a few more. I live close to the area. I actually live about 20 miles away from Mound City.

I was in the Army Infantry for 7.5 years it's funny how they use fortifications as an answer for a lot of these earthworks/walls

awesome sauce Chuck! I live an hour away from giant city park, been there many times, still go actually. fascinating area, many native burials there as well. 👍🏽

It’s amazing how much one takes for granted, the things they have in their back yard. I live 25 miles from Giant City. You’ve inspired me to go take a hike today! Also, there’s a place not too far from here 15-20 miles) named Stonefort,. It has these same stone wall features. Good day!

Love what your doing man More people need to know about the lost history of America

This man is a national treasure, rest in peace. I grew up in Southern Illinois and it is an amazing place. Thank you so much to your family.❤

ive been there,, should have shown the cliffs that surround that fort and those walls.. only way to get up to the top was along the outside of this wall.., unless your a mountain climber...great place to defend..fascinating place..

Thanks again for an interesting video. I had never heard of this place.

I have seen similar stone walls off a dirt road near Penn Mountain State Park in Oneida County New York. the rocks are huge and stacked. It doesn't look like anyone has lived near by in a long long time.

They need to LIDAR the area.

Loved this, shared this!! Amazing.

Wow, there is a place in Pennsylvania, out in the middle of the woods, that are identical to this. It's like a maze , huge rocks everywhere. I've always felt it's a special place walking through it.

Giant City! Fun trails and rock climbing sites, all you can eat chicken at the lodge, and now a mystery of history to ponder! Guess I learn something new about Giant City every day! Thanks for the video. It reminded me of the times I would explore Giant City when I was a student of SIUC.

Ah yes Giant City! Going to SIU-C was the best 6 years of my life!

My brother went to SIU, and we would visit him from time to time. There is a wall in this park that has the names and dates of union soldiers inscibed on a cliff face some 20 feet off the ground. I was amazed as a kid to learn that the reason was that this had been ground level 100 years prior.

I've seen a similar stone all in central North Carolina. I was told they were made to control cattle but I'm not convinced. I've heard rumors that there are Indian mounds on private land near Lexington NC but locals are quiet either because they have no interest or they don't want people on their land. I love your work! Thank you.

From New England here and we are fascinated by the walls. We will send pictures of what is definitely "farmer" and what we identified as presumably unknown origin. You'll get that DM soon! Love your videos and they have brought our attention to looking at the mounds here around us as something maybe a little more than what we have been taught.

I never knew about this before. Thanks for sharing.

How did I miss this ????? Thanks again for your diligent work. Great video. Everything in Missouri and Illinois as far as carbon dating is extremely inaccurate.....

When I was a kid, my parents had a home in a new development up in the area called, ‘Mt Pocono’, bear Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. I was barely a teen, and we only went to that house a month or so a year, so I had no friends and was bored with my brother. We would play hide and seek in the woods. It was all woods, with sparse roads, and new houses (it was a super new development). But anyways, there were stone walls like this all over the place. No signs or anything though. We assumed, and just referred to them as the Indian Forts. lol (we were young) But now in retrospect as an old guy, it defintiely wasn’t pilgrim/settler related, IMO. I’ll try to find the coordinates on google maps...

You're awesome! Thanks for all you do.

That looks really fun to hike around in!

Went down to Giant City last month (and went too SIU which is about 10 miles north. Go, Salukis!). Stone Fort is on a promontory. It's just one wall about 250 feet long. Street of the Giants is part of what is called the Nature Trail. You will find similar formations at Rim Rock about an hour east in Shawnee National Forest. Shawnee--in the middle of which Giant City State Park sits--is just a great natural resource. American Indians lived in the area, but experts are unsure about who did what when down there. That mound was interesting because I've never seen that area presented that way. Thanks, Chuck!

I love your channel 👍So glad I found it. After 30 years of surface collecting ; I finally found a Clovis point in central NC. You can’t imagine my excitement! I love pre history of the Americas. I’ll be watching all of your videos.

Hey check out Castlewood State Park in Colorado. There is an ancient damn there that no one knows where it came from, when it was built,and it's incredibly massive! If you like stuff like in this video this here damn will blow your damn mind! Couldn't believe I've never heard of it. Well then again I see why it's not really main stream news or taught in schools. It definitely blows HIS story out of the water .

An ancient American site I’ve yet to hear of, thank you so much for the video! You’ve got a new subscriber👍🏻

I went to Camp Ondessonk in the Shawnee National Forest as a child, a mere 35 mile west of Giant City State Park!

I knew there was something in Giant city park. I could never find much on it online and the locals here either don’t speak or don’t know. There is lots to see in the park. I kept saying it was really a Giants City. Garden of the Gods as well. Oh and lookup Little Grand Canyon too. Thank you and Btw I can go get you photos as well. I’m down the road from it every day.

Another great video brother keeo them coming !!!

Browning mountain in Brown county, in southern Indiana is another rampart style construction. It was said to be an abandoned quarry operation by early settlers yet there are hundreds of roughly carved (limestone?) slabs the size of a small car. Some are partially buried and others have huge trees growing over them.

I live near Old Stone Fort State Archaeological Park in Manchester TN. Very similar in discretion. Ours has an entrance that lines up with the sunrise on the summer solstice. Age 1500-2000 years. The wall trail is 1.4 miles. Weird giant legends about a cave called Bone Cave.

Thank You For Posting these videos!

Reminds me of Old Stone Fort in Manchester TN . 40 acre inclosure between the Duck river with rock mounds Encompassing and two parallel mounds running about 180 ft .

man i love your videos ,i've never heard of this place ,either.thanks for doing this really digging it

All your videos are cool! Thank you!

Thanks for your time!

Thanks for putting this one on my radar. Adding to the list of sites to see while on the road. 🤙

Thanks for the video.🍀 Interesting!!

Awesome Chuck!! This is a fascinating site to me and my research suggests that this is another "trading area" as is well known by archaeologists that the Adena and Hopewell had vast trading networks and they needed areas to bring these "goods" into. These areas would need to be secure and there are many such "enclosed" areas throughout the U.S. I go over this issue thoroughly in my videos and you know what my research on the "stone walls of New England" is all about. Only a small number of the stone walls were built by "colonists" or "settlers" and they seem to be of very fine quality whereas the other walls seem rather crude to some extent with some interesting features as you know I discuss on my channel. It's a shame though that they were "dismantled" but it does show the stone was of enough fine quality and grade to build with. Loved hearing about this Chuck!! Thank you!!...;)

Thank you. I’m definitely going to check this out.

Thanks for the video. It's thought-provoking.

HERE WITH YOU ON SUNDAY NIGHT MY FRIEND.

Fascinating!

i’ve been here several times man. its on top of a huge cliff with the wall on one end and 60 ft cliffs on the other three sides. it’s a very interesting area. there are overhangs in the park big enough to build houses in. the whole area is loaded with native american history.

Literally my back yard. I walk from my house to Stone Fort often. The cliffs on the bluff are nice there. I think one of the images in this video supposedly of the alleys of the Giant City Nature Trail is really from Panthers Den several miles away. Similar right angle rock separations happen at other bluffs around here. Kind of a geological mystery as to why. Not a lot of petroglyphs in Giant City SP. That kind of makes me doubt the ceremonial site theory. We’ve got quite a few other petroglyph sites down here. There are other native stone walls in the region, but they are more associated with dwellings and animal enclosures. But we’re still mostly speculating

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Thanks & hello from Plano, Illinois

This area is full of ancient artifacts, between the Ohio and Mississippi rivers, there are numerous rock overhangs. I found one large overhang full of artifacts and the soil under the overhang is black with a texture like pumice, I assume this is from thousands of years on camp fires.

I found rockwall's exactly like this right in the woods at the back side of the Orange County Fairgrounds in Middletown Orange County New York to find such a thing and to have never not once even heard about all of these millions of miles of rock walls that crisscross the land from the Ohio Valley region all the way up into New York and Maine the extent of these things are absolutely preposterously huge

I have been there. It's really an interesting place. I highly recomend it.

I think it's a designated hunting area. Something resembling a buffalo jump with a slaughter house and possibly a lodge or lodges. Because it's near a cliff that signals a possible area to successfully get wild game in larger numbers at one time to feed large numbers of families or Tribes. Back in the old days Tribes that shared a hunting area would already have designated times each Tribe could hunt with out problems. With the remnants and wonderful input from the comment section, that is the theory that makes most sense for me. Thanks for sharing this video with us. Blessings!

We love Giant City! 💗

I love this place!

'reconstructed'... or de-constructed (messed up) to obliterate any evidence of any sort of organised previous ownership of the lands.

Your voice at the very end gave me chills!

Ok I live in Illinois and never knew of this...Cool as hell

Preciate you sharing this information bro, keep more coming out of North America, there is history here that invaders tried to completely wipe out, people need to see all you share

It's a silo for the legendary Clovis ICBM. Got caught in a first strike.

Funny, back in the 60's I used to visit a relative with my family to Pompton Planes NJ and in the woods there there were very similar looking stone walls running through the backs of the properties a good ways into the woods. We were told that they were military structures from the Revolutionary War, but it seems to me that the stones were too large for that.

I’ve heard southern Illinois called “little egypt” because of all of the really old monuments. I think Burrows cave is near there, supposedly a late period Egyptian tomb.

I lived near Giant City Park for 15 years.

makes me recall similar on Lookout Mt, near Desoto Falls Park, in northeast Alabama near Valley Head and Mentone Springs, worth looking at, have been told they were Cherokee or perhaps older

Less than 5 minutes and you just proved that all the books in all the American schools are wrong. Good job.

Just came here from the 'Great Wall of India' KZfaq...Amazing how clean N.A. is compared to rest of world's ancient structures

Coincidence, they say its the home to the “Lewis” people. A lewis, were told is a very important tool for lifting and setting stone in place. Awesome videos.

I've never heard why it's called Giant City, but I can try and find out 🤙🏽😎

We have a stone wall on our hunting land. Found it to be the first loggers in MN did it. Guessing it was for a road. Shame we have such young growth here now.

These videos are really cool, I'm glad I found your channel. I've long been compelled by accounts of giant remains exhumed in early America. Even President Lincoln seemed convinced of the history of giants of long ago. For my part I think that a fair percentage of the reports can be attributed to the yellow journalism of the day, but the sheer number seems to suggest that many of the finds were authentic. The Smithsonian no doubt has some remains still, if we can preserve ancient hominid specimens, surely some of the giant human remains must have survived. I hope some day we can find out for certain.

I've seen a lot of dry stone walls in England, but I very much doubt there's any correlation; they are fascinating to see. Never heard of this "Giant City". Another mystery added to my list of unsolvable relics.

yep New England is one giant stone wall you can't miss any walking through the woods that used to be farms. I've seen some pretty interesting field stone structures though that used to be dwellings or storage facilities.

Theres a much bigger wall in Rockwall Tx. Much more intricate with archways and chambers. Found by two ranchers on their respective properties and when followed it was learned that it was one structure. They dug a large portion of it free from earth and actually gave tours to people. The Army Corps of Engineers came in and flooded most of it with a lake. But if you know where to look there is some still accessable on private properties. I suggest looking into it.

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yes, such stone walls seem to be linked throughout New England in Rhode Island and Massachusettes. it has been suggested that such stone structures were covered up to conceal them, or even destroyed by the settlers as they moved in. one thing is certain: some of the stones that were moved in these regions were very massive. And the sheer number of stones moved seems daunting and from a time when the entire world seem to be obsessed with building stone structures.

Whenever is see piles of rocks like this all i think as this is actually an even far older site that was built out of bigger stones but has been destroyed..then later inhabitants used the pile of demolished ruins and stacked it like this

Wow, What an interesting place ! I'm sure that with some of the most recent discoveries of human occupation in Ohio and recently in CA dating a human presence far older than what academia says. May make this and other sites far older. Like the buried stone walls in Tx that were unearthed and then poo poo'd as natural geological formations. Makes one want to start a go fund me account to set up a lidar research team to investigate these site more publicly. Lidar of the surrounding areas that may be buried and not ruined by home builders. Might yield interesting info ? Just a thought ??? Thumbs up ! Thanks for sharing.

I've lived in Southern Indiana my whole life just a stone's throw from Angel Mounds. I'm not an expert, but I've seen just about every mound site in the area and that photo looks like a mound to me. When you have flat land in every direction except for a hill or two it's pretty safe to think it's man-made.

This enclosure would have been an excellent protective corral for livestock. The nearby hill looks like a spiny rock outcrop, that would have produced the slab type stones used in the walls. It may have been the quarry, or there may have been a similar strata very near the enclosure. Either way, it looks like a fair amount of energy was expended to produce this enclosure!

I've been there mean time's its a pretty cool place. There are other places like that in Shawnee Forest to

Hey man. Have you heard of the Cahokia mounds in Cahokia Illinois? Used to be a giants skeleton there and everything years ago. Cool stuff

you mention new england stone walls near the end, I have built 1.5 miles of restoration, original freestanding style walls, mostly off route 1 and 95. A bunch of the walls we were working on go below the current surface of the road by up to 3-4 feet, and can have really large (500-1000lb+) stones at the base,. I was looking for signs of anomalous construction the entire time I worked out there, but I only may have found it once, tube drill holes and flat planes in granite on a ruined wall, most likely 'modern', but quite rare. I will try to swing through this site my next pass through that state, thanks

The stone walls from the early settlers in CT; are everywhere! And it's not like you see one wall go on for miles. They fork, run perpendicular corners. Every square inch of personal property was rumble piles of walls. It's all glacier stone, meaning early settlers were tripping over the amount of stone that just laid about. They stacked it just so they could walk around, without breaking a foot. The entirety of Long Island (New York) is glacier stone. It was where the glacier ended and deposited everything it carried.

I have been there several times (i live nearby, (closer to Mississippi river) and have explored lots of other places in surrounding areas. The area of southernmost illinois (aka Little Egypt) is filled with petraglyph sites and other Indian mounds

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That is an interesting one & I am actually not sure myself. I am trying to understand exactly who may have been living in that area between 400-900 AD & I think there's a bit of an overlap between the Mississippian Culture who got control of the region later & whoever had it before. I want to say Hopewells, but it's hard to say because I'm not familiar with the "Lewis Culture." I suppose it could have been someone else. I know the Mississippians were rumored to have been experimenting with early stone architecture (by this, I mean I've heard of one unconfirmed manmade pond that had a stonework bottom in Wisconsin, but it was buried by whoever bought the land & no one has found it yet) but, nothing like this, so I would want to say it was earlier. What is really throwing me is that I've heard of something vaguely similar in West Virginia which was built around the same time by the Monongahela Culture, I think. Never seen any pictures of it & there is virtually no info on it online either. The best theory I have-- and it is a theory-- is ancient Muskogeans. These were people like the Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Coushatta, etc who were living in the southeast when whites arrived & were some of the last vestages of the Mississippian Culture, which was in a sharp decline at the time anyway, but they did not originate the Mississippian Culture. A different group called Caddoans did this, before they were chased out onto the Great Plains around the 1300s by the ancestors of the Dhegihan Siouan tribes & the Algonquian Illinois Confederacy. Those original Mississippians were the ones who once lived in nearby Cahokia. The Choctaw, in their oral history has said that they came to Mississippi from another place which was described as the Ohio River in some accounts & from somewhere west of the Ohio River in others. It's gotten muddled due to it's connection to the old Mound Building theories in Ohio from the 1800s. But, if they came from precisely there, that would clear that up. The Choctaw are also not the only Muskogean people to claim something similar, as Tuckabatchee Creeks do as well. It would also explain why Muskogeans adopted the Mississippian Culture as their own if they had lost their original homelands to the original Mississippians. Similar examples of Native Americans borrowing cultural elements from enemies who were beating them in war include the Powhatan taking on Siouans customs like a permanent Chief who wore a feathered headdress & the Abenakis of extreme NE New England states taking on village fortifications & governing techniques of the Iroquois. So, this would explain a lot if the Choctaw's ancestors built this place log ago & it was forgotten. Also, that hill you noted is definitely a possible manmade structure. I hope someone does check it out, but it just looks like an unrecorded Mississippian structure to me, at best. Due to it's size, it's likely a temple to the spirit associated with the planet Venus, aka the Morning Star, but it's hard to determine size from that image, other than just that it is huge.

2:47 - fancy building around a tree! 😉

Prince Madoc of Wales came here with 700 ships on 563AD. His burial site was found on Bat Creek Tennesee. The Mandan Tribe are Welsh descendents. They built stone fortifications.

Please do a video on Stlouis mounds, my icon is a picture of one On mound street in stlouis. Stlouis was named Mound city there were 25 mounds along the Mississippi River about 10 min away from Cahokia. I’m interested in finding info about the mounds in forest park in stlouis.

There is a similar wall at Ft Mountain State Park in Georgia. This wall also has an uncertain history.

The first topographic area you focused on is obviously a pyramid. There is a buried pyramid much larger than the great pyramid at Giza in Azerbaijan and their government is arguing that it also is a natural feature. Recently some amateur archeological teams have excavated a small area at its base and found it to be carved stone and found one entrance.

I believe in a much different history in North America than what is commonly thought, and with that said, I do know that farm fields have to have the rock removed from them and in the northern half of Minnesota for example, the ground can be very rocky and nearly all the fields I've been around you can find fairly large rock piles. Perhaps if you are going to clear rocks from an area in times past it might have made sense to make the most of your effort and not just pile them up but make walls and get more "bang for your buck" as they say. If the areas are large enough to grow crops within - Just a thought. Thanks for the video! Love the subject matter.

Quality video again! Can you consider making a series of videos on stone wall structures on other continents like the ‘kraals’ in Africa, in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world?

Hey! I live there! Crazy!