Mystery of the Panay - The Path to Pearl Harbor - WWII - Part 2

Mystery of the Panay - The Path to Pearl Harbor - WWII - Part 2 - Extra History

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Yangtze River, December 12th, 1937
A Japanese dive bomber lets its payload go, smashing into the USS Panay and sinking the vessel filled with evacuated civilians from china and journalists. A single event that set Japan on a collision course with the United States...
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@extrahistory Жыл бұрын

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@TheMuseumOfNaturalHumanHistory Жыл бұрын

@noahtauriainen174 Жыл бұрын

@AMD7027 Жыл бұрын

Wrong German flag at 2:11, the Nazi flag became the sole state flag on Sept 15, 1935.

@johnthenextdoorneighbor1575 Жыл бұрын

@AnimarchyHistory Жыл бұрын

😂

@findlayyoung4 Жыл бұрын

Writing abandon ship in your own blood like that is fucking metal

@zackakai5173 Жыл бұрын

Ahaha my EXACT words when I heard that were "okay but that's metal as fuck" 🤣

@fullmetaltheorist Жыл бұрын

He was built different.

@nathanseper8738 Жыл бұрын

It speaks volumes about how fanatical the Japanese army was that they had no problem picking a fight with the US and the USSR, two enormous industrial powers, while trying to conquer and hold down all of China simultaneously.

@malachiphoniex8501 Жыл бұрын

The fools! They committed one the classic blunders: don't fight a land war in Asia.

@Loremastrful Жыл бұрын

This is the same Japan that kicked Russia in the rears a dozen or so years ago in the Russo-Japanese war. They had good reason to feel so confident.

@GodzillaKid-px1le Жыл бұрын

Maybe a little too confident

@musicheaven1679 Жыл бұрын

@@Loremastrful "Having reason to be confident" doesn't mean that confidence wasn't utterly ridiculous.

@historyking9984 Жыл бұрын

@@Loremastrful not really . There were a series of conflicts and border wars from 1932 to 1939 which the Soviets defeated Japan. And that was before they were in top WW2 shape. These losses proved the Soviets weren’t as weak as before and made China a better choice to invade

@Cloudrunner5k Жыл бұрын

I spent 12 years in the US Navy (08-20), and am currently in the Navy Reserves and of all the badasses of naval history I have had to learn about in that time, I have never before heard of anything as metal as an XO writting orders in his own blood

@bthsr7113 Жыл бұрын

Did you hear about the Seabees stealing train engines and beer in Korea, the USS Johnston at Samar, or the USS Barb?

@Cloudrunner5k Жыл бұрын

@Bthsr71 There are a bunch of SeaBees at my reserve center. if I remember, I'll ask them about it next month. The USS Johnston rings a bell the skipper got a MoH for something.

@spartanx9293 Жыл бұрын

2:42 unsurprising Japan's civilian government had next to no control over their military they essentially did whatever the hell they wanted

@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Жыл бұрын

It's already established in their series on Japanese militarism that most of the time Tokyo has no control over the army. They murdered three Prime Ministers during that time...

@OnboardG1 Жыл бұрын

I seem to remember that the Soviet general who broke the back of the Japanese offensive in Mongolia was a young Georgy Zhukov, and it was the making of his career.

@GeneralLuigiTBC Жыл бұрын

I'm of the opinion that the Soviet-Japanese Border Conflict would make for a good series, one-off, or two-off. A bit too recent to be eligible on Patreon most of the time, though.

@evelezpuma Жыл бұрын

Just Zhukov doing Zhukov things

@evelezpuma Жыл бұрын

@nig a That *and American gas and steel (and more, clothes and food were another vital piece of American aid). According to Kruschev, even Stalin privately admitted so. The Soviets would have been royally screwed if it wasn't for that getting them through, along with it's generals.

@evelezpuma Жыл бұрын

@nig a I'm not from the US either and agree with you 100%, just point that out lately because I have noticed a trend where people like to claim x country won the war, when it reality it was 100% a joint effort

@zacharystokell7304 Жыл бұрын

I've heard it said that "the War was won with Soviet Blood, British Intelligence, and American Steel." I think that is a good summation of the interdependent contributions of each power.

@davidfromkyushu6870 Жыл бұрын

The abandon ship order written in blood was actually written on the back of a map. It's now on display in the US Navy Museum.

@fireaza Жыл бұрын

In case anyone was wondering how it was possible for the government to have no control over the military, it's because Japan's military branches were setup as independent entities, with the government simply providing resources to whichever branches needed them at the time. This had the unfortunate side-effect of encouraging branches who wanted more resources than they were currently being given, to intentionally start shit so that the government would be forced to give them more.

@WannabeCanadianDev Жыл бұрын

Not quite, the problem is more due to that there was no clear chain of command in which the military was clearly subordinate to the civilian government; the army answered to the General Staff (of the Army) and vice versa for the Navy; who answered to the Emperor directly (presumably via the privy council) bypassing the Ministry of Defence. Additionally as covered in a previous EH episode, the Army and Navy could bring down the government basically at will because by law, an active duty officer nominated by the respective service had to staff cabinet positions and if they weren't filled would force the Prime Minister to resign; essentially creating a veto power over the civilian government. Add in the threat of assassination and you had a recipe for a government that had less influence on the military than the zaibatsu's and business community.

@skorgevondoom___9571 Жыл бұрын

The fact children sent letters of apologies makes me both killed by cuteness and saddened that even the children were driven to apologize

@SkittytheKid Жыл бұрын

Same, forget tugging that yoinked my heartstrings

@Der.Geschichtenerzahler Жыл бұрын

Even sadder is the fact that thousand of innocent children were obliterated by the two atomic bombs some years after that. Criminals make crimes and the innocent pays the price.

@kelanbates2121 Жыл бұрын

@@Der.Geschichtenerzahler Dont forget the fire bombings of tokyo, and going to mention Japanese soldiers played catch the Chinese baby with their bsyonets

@franciscopereira2341 Жыл бұрын

It saddens me more that those same children may have been killed by two atomic bombs. Classic US. You draw a pen line on their notebook and they burn your notebook down as retaliation.

@IkeOkerekeNews Жыл бұрын

I don't know, killing and enslaving thousands of people doesn't seem like drawing a pen line.

@kevp6488 5 ай бұрын

Writing "abandon ship" in his own blood after getting hit in the neck by shrapnel has got to be the most badass retreat order I've ever heard of.

@cheezemonkeyeater Жыл бұрын

As a wise man once said, "Those who don't learn from history may end up invading Siberia again."

@bthsr7113 Жыл бұрын

Ooh, that's good. Who said that one?

@cheezemonkeyeater Жыл бұрын

@@bthsr7113 Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw.

@kayemni Жыл бұрын

I know it's just a citation but didn't Russia have to invade it at a certain point?

@razinabbas4551 Жыл бұрын

@@kayemni Yeah they did but at the time, no one worth any salt had claimed Siberia and it was inexpensive to govern. History Matters has a video on the matter called "Why did Russia conquer Siberia."

@KillerViper16 Жыл бұрын

Giving an order by writing it to a panel of a ship with your own blood is the most metal thing I have ever heard.

@geoffreyherrick298 Жыл бұрын

Brutal and metal. Dethclock approved!👍

@cheezemonkeyeater Жыл бұрын

"He can't speak, so he writes orders in his own blood." Metal.

@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын

What does the order "metal" mean? /s

@Spartan265 Жыл бұрын

All the citizens and school kids writing applogies sorta tugs the heartstrings. Even though we'd be at war soon.

@09lowkey Жыл бұрын

People, Culture, and Government. Typically they're not aligned. The people and the culture didn't want war, the government and/or military did. Common theme in history.

@hawkeyeten2450 Жыл бұрын

@@09lowkey Sounds sadly familiar to many of another country's people today, judging from what I've seen from them online.

@bluewinter5721 Жыл бұрын

Just the opening scene to this video gave me chills. Well done Extra Credits👌

@extrahistory Жыл бұрын

We could not believe what we were reading when the script came out! This series just gets more and more explosive.

@pyrotechnick420 Жыл бұрын

That was one of the more intense openings you've done on this channel. Well done

@extrahistory Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@georgepurdy7823 Жыл бұрын

sailors responding to casualties in their Skibbies is not as uncommon as you think. Its still common today.

@renegadeleader1 Жыл бұрын

Phil Rasmussen a pilot that managed to get airborne during the Pearl Harbor attack, did so in his government issue pj's. There's a display at the National Museum of the Air Force dedicated to him with a P-36 Hawk like he flew complete with a manniquin wearing his pajamas.

@GaldirEonai Жыл бұрын

Yep. When you're at sea and there's an emergency you don't wait to put your pants on before responding.

@bthsr7113 Жыл бұрын

I mean, the pants don't offer much protection anyways, so speed is something you'll be better served by.

@borisxanovavich4466 Жыл бұрын

Side note: While almost everyone pronounces it as [pa-neigh], it should be [pa-nigh] because it was named for the island of Panay in the Philippines, at the time a US colony.

@jonnunn4196 Жыл бұрын

Within the US, the pronunciation of "Panay" itself has drifted more to the former to match other words ending in "ay".

@esleynopemos3470 Жыл бұрын

I love that the earlier series posted on militarism in Japan provides the additional context of just *how* they got to the point where their foreign policy was so at the mercy of the most aggressive elements in their armed forces. The way the pieces fit together gives so much richer an understanding than the individual events on their own.

@petersmythe6462 Жыл бұрын

"The soviets could focus all of their attention toward invading Manchuria and Japan." Finland, baltics: "Ah, yes, everything will be completely perfectly normal. Nothing important is about to happen"

@Numba003 Жыл бұрын

I don't know that I've ever heard of the USS Panay before. I'm enjoying the focus on Asia and the Japanese doings over there in this episode. It's a subject I could sure stand to learn more about. Thank you for another excellent episode! Merry Christmas out there everybody! ✝️🎄

@omarbradley6807 Жыл бұрын

Just a a couple of things, The Hokushin-Ron and Nakushin-Ron (Strike North and Strike South) were both army plans the first was more popular in the nativist Kodoha of Sadao Araki, the second was more popular in the industrialist Toseiha of Hideki Tojo among otheters. The Navy was split more into respectin the treaties with the West or initiate an armamentistic race, and thus the latest supported the "Southern Strike", whose faction was leaded by the Prince Fushimi.

@camerongrow6426 Жыл бұрын

This was a really freaking good story. The writing of orders in blood, firing machine guns in your underwear, citizens giving money to Nanking victims. It just has everything.

@micahh9351 Жыл бұрын

That admiral with the throat is an absolute badass.

@lynmcc3651 Жыл бұрын

Amazing topic, love your videos ever since y’all uploaded y’all’s Punic War videos!

@davidcoquelle3081 Жыл бұрын

I think you need to make a series about the Japanese on the ground - to supplement the political theater. To shine light on the atrocities committed in Korea, china etc.

@TechieWidget Жыл бұрын

The 85th anniversary of the Nanking massacre is coming up on Dec 13 this year, and it would be a good opportunity for EH to cover it. It’s an atrocity that showed how horrible the Imperial Japanese army in the city was with treating civilians, and how incompetent General Iwane Matsui was in managing and disciplining his commanders, officers and troops during the whole mess

@atb2674 Жыл бұрын

imho no they started this channel for kids to learn history in a fun way they wouldn’t do those topics in depth theyd glaze over it.

@hawkeyeten2450 Жыл бұрын

Legendary American filmmaker Frank Capra actually did a summary of the Chinese WWII theater and atrocities Japan committed there IIRC in "The Battle of China", which became a part of his famous "Why We Fight" film series.

@lephinor2458 Жыл бұрын

Have you seen the topics done by extra history? They have talked about the potato famine, the politics that started world war one, and the thirty years war with the four horsemen.

@The-rc9cm Жыл бұрын

The Panay is just foreshadowing

@legionofyuri Жыл бұрын

I learned of this event because I literally live in the island that USS Panay is named after.

@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158 Жыл бұрын

Oh my god I’ve been watching extra history for so many years now, but 5:32 to 5:38 is the funniest bits of animation I’ve ever seen on this show

@zenith6939 Жыл бұрын

I once again have enjoyed watching this episode of this fascinating series. Please keep up the great work!

@noonespecial9704 Жыл бұрын

Funny how they used Von Hindenburg to represent Germany even though he's been dead for 7 years at this point XD

@dominicguye8058 Жыл бұрын

LOL

@malachiphoniex8501 Жыл бұрын

Not to nitpick you guys, just interested in starting a discussion, this video like the last touches on huge historical topics that honestly needs videos of their own because no one talks about them enough. The Boxer Rebellion, Rape of Nanking, and Chinese Civil War are super important. Honestly, Southeastern Asian history is barely taught despite the area's importance today: the Taiping Rebellion, Japanese Occupation of Korea, Bengal Famine are some other ones.

@badruter2917 11 ай бұрын

i love the spider skull walker and rifts reference. It's always been one of my favorite rpg's not many can match it for free form and cross overs.

@Sirwitless Жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting a week for this thank you

@xXxSkyViperxXx Жыл бұрын

USS Panay was named after the island of Panay in the philippines. Panay is pronounced with the same A in both syllables, that which is the A in Can

@karstenshields1694 Жыл бұрын

Writing orders in your own blood goes hard as hell

@snackplissken8192 Жыл бұрын

WWII is another excellent example of the problem of apparent national strength. Not unlike two deer looking at each other's antlers before one backs down, nations look at their rival's military might to determine who would win in a fight before engaging in aggression. But when democracies have small military footprints relative to their industrial capacity and national willingness to fight, it gives nations with less capacity the idea that they could grab quick territorial concessions from said democracy. When quick initial victories lead to the other side gearing up for long term retaliation, casualties and costs mount up vastly higher than anybody would have predicted. Nobody wants to spend resources on war they don't intend to wage but just like any other animals, humans generally don't pick fights with rivals whose arsenals are equal to or larger than their own. The problem is looking like a genuinely unappealing target while trying to minimize the material costs and moral hazards involved with powerful militaries.

@eldorados_lost_searcher Жыл бұрын

Nice touch having FDR holding onto someone's shoulder when he's shown standing.

@Ryu_D Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video.

@TheCreepypro Жыл бұрын

nice to see history that is often not only not discussed but even hidden

@harveymogarawanderingfilip5318 Жыл бұрын

I'm a Filipino and the pronunciation of Panay is wrong but I will give it an okay for trying

@lonlidood116 Жыл бұрын

What’s the correct pronunciation

@boaoftheboaians Жыл бұрын

@@lonlidood116 English speakers will pronounce it as “Panei” but the correct pronunciation for Filipino is closer to “Panai”

@ralphael3379 Жыл бұрын

Pa-nai

@leggonarm9835 Жыл бұрын

The spelling is all wrong to begin with then, it should be "Panai" in English, so us English speakers have less trouble saying it. This happens with a lot of Asian words since the translations were written a few hundred years ago.

@forexed8948 Жыл бұрын

@@leggonarm9835 The funniest thing about that is that sometimes, something gets lost in translation, take Japanese for example, it's a beautiful language, but when you translate it into English, sometimes it doesn't make sense until you have to re-arrange the words.

@Chorutowo Жыл бұрын

Is no one gonna talk about how good the yokai design is at 5:00? thats unironically really cool

@subira8518 Жыл бұрын

Bill Cipher?

@bthsr7113 Жыл бұрын

@@subira8518 No, that's an umbrella.

@ggmike1555 Жыл бұрын

learning about japan during ww2 was one of the most horrific things one can learn, nanking, the death march and unit 731 will make you just lose all respect for humanity, and make you question a lot

@cdcdrr Жыл бұрын

The lead up to Pearl Harbour had surprisingly little to do with the actual Pearl Harbour. We've now covered China, Germany, the Soviet Union, Britain, France, Italy, Malaysia, Indochina and Indonesia. And we're still going to have to add the Phillipines, Thailand, Australia, Burma and India before all is said and done.

@TheTrainmobile Жыл бұрын

I just realized, World Anvil can actually be a really powerful tool for historians to organize data.

@eldorados_lost_searcher Жыл бұрын

Might even help connect certain events as taking place concurrently that would otherwise be sectioned off in separate parts of one's memory.

@KrikrTriwas Жыл бұрын

you have a childish understanding of the work historians do

@dominicguye8058 Жыл бұрын

@@KrikrTriwas How would you know????

@jeremy1860 Жыл бұрын

The general vibe I get from this and other historical accounts is that a great deal of what happens was the result of those in the military going broken arrow, leaving the government and civilian sides of Japan to, as we know, pay the price later on 😟

@Dagreatestwaffle Жыл бұрын

That second officer is metal as hell

@kendi8942 Жыл бұрын

I love this series!

@carlpult5235 Жыл бұрын

love that Airplane manufacturer with a model glued to his head :D

@Generalskits1287 Жыл бұрын

Love y’all’s content keep up the good work

@EdbertWeisly Жыл бұрын

The animation got better :D

@Evie_the_magic_foox 10 ай бұрын

His multiverse campaign is confusing and chaos and I love it

@knightofhistory Жыл бұрын

I love this channel, it is so interesting and makes subjects that perhaps wouldn't be entirely enticing very catching and enjoyable. I hope one day my channel (also a history channel) will be as gripping as yours! Best the Knight of History.

@katklein1658 Жыл бұрын

@openthinker6562 Жыл бұрын

From that sailor on an AA gun in underwear to the 2nd in command writing orders in his own blood from his throat being ripped open… Jeez, the Panay was manned by men with balls of steel!

@susakuzero Жыл бұрын

I mean when you are under fire there are not that many Options.

@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Жыл бұрын

"Dereliction of Duty" is a court martial offense that often means firing squad...

@tf2013 Жыл бұрын

French Indochina is very important for international trade. It was fine as long as France controlled it, but it was unacceptable for the U.S. to be controlled by imperial japan or communist Vietnam.

@mrsteamie4196 8 ай бұрын

God damn... I forgot about the blood abandon ship order. That is so incredobly hardcore.

@philbridgers3305 Жыл бұрын

I love how this perfectly came out on time because my birthday is on pearl Harbor Is feels like the channel celebrating me lol

@Zogerpogger Жыл бұрын

Does Japan have no limits?

@susakuzero Жыл бұрын

Their Oil supply.

@hilmust6278 Жыл бұрын

You gotta do a video or two about the extremely horrific terrors the Croatian Ustaša committed during the second world war

@captfuzzy1618 Жыл бұрын

I can’t find any sources for the second officer writing “abandon ship” in his blood. Everything I’ve seen says that the captain gave the order. Does anyone know the legitimacy of this claim?

@captfuzzy1618 Жыл бұрын

Found an npr article that lists his son as the primary source.

@Fudgetastic2 Жыл бұрын

Interesting that EC didn't put a dotted line on the map at 7:54 considering Austria was considered a defeated power and not a legitimate part of Germany after the war.

@WannabeCanadianDev Жыл бұрын

The USSR largely supposed Chiang Kai-Shek and the GMD during the pre-war years seeing them as largely the more useful of the two and frequently interposed restrictions on the Chinese Red Amy and Chinese Communist Party, its a bit of an over simplication of a complicated diplomatic game to say Stalin supported Mao when more accurately he probably didn't until Mao ended up winning.

@oilybat3269 Жыл бұрын

The Imperial Japanese Military ignoring the Emperor and starting as many conflicts as possible is kind of a theme in Asian WW2 history.

@susakuzero Жыл бұрын

Well the Gouverment had lost complete Controll and the Military just did what it want. The problem was even the Military was split into so many Factions that this means Escalations everywhere. And this does not even include the Rivalry between the Army and the Navy.

@omarbradley6807 Жыл бұрын

The emperor aproved the war, also ministers Hirota Konoe Hiiranuma and Tojo, so the civilian government was actually pretty fine with it.

@oilybat3269 Жыл бұрын

@@omarbradley6807 source

@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын

@@oilybat3269 source: trust me bro

@omarbradley6807 Жыл бұрын

@@oilybat3269 It is not difficult to read a bit you know, you are only saying who the emperor didn't aprove the war despite preciding the Liaison conference on September 1941 when they decided to go to war

@camrich286 Жыл бұрын

don't forget Howland, baker, Jarvis and Palmyra... there's one more... my grandfather was part of the island hopper network set up to prepare for war with japan... in 1932...

@gamithemighty5932 Жыл бұрын

dude, i would love it if more dms would place themselves in games, that's some ballsy stuff right there.

@skylerholmes571 Жыл бұрын

Well Howdy!

@sourabhmayekar3354 Жыл бұрын

Nice

@euansmith3699 Жыл бұрын

The intro is certainly shocking; "Abandon Ship" 😱

@smitty6119 Жыл бұрын

I was born on December 7th ever since ive been interested in history because i was born on a historical day (P.S i was born in 2006 not 1941

@jaidoni.vincent6773 Жыл бұрын

Happy sweet 16 in advance🎉🎉

@indokid5311 Жыл бұрын

What a coincidence. I was also born at Dexemver 7th in 2006

@smitty6119 Жыл бұрын

@@indokid5311 well lucky us i guess

@smitty6119 Жыл бұрын

@@jaidoni.vincent6773 thanks

@BuddyWhite616 Жыл бұрын

Writing orders in your own blood after a shot to the throat that’s hard core

@aperturegames3984 Жыл бұрын

why do these videos feel so short?

@renegadeleader1 Жыл бұрын

Because they are. Extra History used to have 10-15 minute videos and it would be straight content the whole way through. Now? It's an 5-8 minute rush job to get to the 4-5 minute ad tacked on at the end in addition to the usual Patreon thanking ending.

@West_Coast_Gang Жыл бұрын

Epic boats

@Spellcaster01 Жыл бұрын

I've noticed a common thing among the axis powers. They all could have done serious stuff with just the tiniest bit of patience.

@roaropgard8575 Жыл бұрын

Rest in peace uss pannay😭😭

@525Lines Жыл бұрын

It's important to remember an early first step to empire status for Japan was getting all of Germany's Pacific territories at the end of WW1.

@susakuzero Жыл бұрын

The first step was actualy the Russo Japanese War followed by the first Sino Japanese War.

@samrevlej9331 Жыл бұрын

Fools! The first step was the Big Bang!

@525Lines Жыл бұрын

@@susakuzero Japan's victory over Russia in 1904 cannot be underestimated.

@kaltaron1284 Жыл бұрын

I'd say the first step was getting powerful and important enough to get rid of the unequal treaties.

@susakuzero Жыл бұрын

@@525Lines I am not sure if you agree or disagree with me here but the War with Rusia in 1904 is the Ruso Japanese war i am talking about.

@TorturedMongoose2003 Жыл бұрын

Interesting thing mine great grandfather was actually at pearl harbor when it was attacked I miss him everyday since he passed away in 2011...

@jsonitsac Жыл бұрын

In the 1930s Stalin wasn’t exactly a huge fan of Mao and the Chinese communists. He was constantly pushing Mao to make a deal with Chiang and cooperate with the KMT army against the Japanese and seemed to view Chiang as the legitimate leader of the country. At that point Stalin was conditioning any aid he would give to Mao on their cooperation with the KMT. In fact Stalin seemed to like Chiang better (it also helped he held his son and grandson hostage in Russia). The question of who was the more effective side in the second Sino-Japanese war, the Communists or the KMT, is one of the most controversial questions in the scholarship of World War II but I’m sure that’s for a whole different set of videos.

@theadhdgoblin Жыл бұрын

He wrote with his own blood? That’s metal af

@eastgermanphotographer2868 Жыл бұрын

Hi Extra Credits! I just got into an argument with my parents about whether i should listen to your videos or listen to “scholars who spend their entire lives studying this.” Can you send me some of the links or books you used for the info you are presenting? Thank you! :D

@extrahistory Жыл бұрын

Hello! Our writer for this series is Robert Rath who studied in Hawaii and has a degree in European History. I can also say this is one of his FAVORITE subjects to talk about! Seriously he was over the moon when this subject was suggested by our Patreons because he's spend a bunch of time at museums and reading about the subject. His recommended reading list for this series will be available in our "Path to Pearl Harbor Lies" video. Which should come out on 1/7/2023.

@MrHanbam Жыл бұрын

We just going to sail over how the dude wrote Abandon ship in blood?!? That's metal asf

@Oxtocoatl13 Жыл бұрын

Note to all future constitution crafters: making the army independent of any civilian oversight is not a recipe for stability or victory.

@Kratosfallinmemeiscool Жыл бұрын

Very good video, not the best pronounciation on "Panay" but good video in general

@FranzFridl Жыл бұрын

Heavy metal dude

@fermemorta2985 Жыл бұрын

6:16 we actually made a movie about this event called "Маш нууц: Байтагбогд"/"Top Secret: Bäitig bögd" and only 12 mongolian soldiers held back i think was a couple 100 soldiers a few mortars and chivilaries.

@6023barath Жыл бұрын

Very mind-boggling that the US supplied Japan with oil and other resources even while they had firsthand experience of the Nanking massacre!

@susakuzero Жыл бұрын

Sry but do you belive that People actualy cared about the Chinese i mean that kinda a cute thought.

@nps86 Жыл бұрын

So, as a historian, people have asked me why would you listen to things you know alot about. In this case, I'm a pretty big WWII buff. Yet, it had never dawned on me that the Non-aggression pact would allow the USSR to pivot to a conflict with Japan. I had always viewed it as either an ability to increase their domestic stability or expand towards other parts of Europe/the Middle East. It does make absolute sense though since the USSR wanted to support Maoism on the global stage and the previous war with Japan that they lost. Now, the Tsar started that war and I'm positive Stalin didn't give two shites about China as a whole, but there's a lot of political weight being shifted around there. Point being: It's good to learn about things you know alot about because you may find a new way to look at it!!

@pictotalk Жыл бұрын

i’ve never heard someone use “quagmire” as an actual word until this video

@mosesmm5473 Жыл бұрын

If there is one thing that'll never change about politics, is how complicated it all gets as we can't imagine a world where Germany, the US, Britain, Japan and the Soviets didn't want to kill each other but that world did exist for a time. Also, at this point...yeah, the Japanese should have just just come clean about their lack of control over their armed forces as in your last series about them, it kinda makes you feel bad for the civilian government as they couldn't make any promises for deals since the army could break them the very next day, egged on by high goals but no plans. Case in point, the fact that they couldn't even tell the US WHY their gunboat was attacked as both sides know their line about misidentification was BS.

@mailstorminurbox Жыл бұрын

Roosevelt predicted the axis powers with the title of bandit lkk

@AWiseOrange Жыл бұрын

This sounds like a war is brewing

@lordvader4089 Ай бұрын

In the words of The Fat Electrician: "Dont. Touch. The boats!!!"

@craigkdillon Жыл бұрын

Writing orders in his own blood --- If that was in a movie, it would be considered unrealistic and over the top. Something for the kids, not for us adults. BUT - it really happened. This is why I love history more than fiction.