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Zakir knows so little of ‘ other religions’ that he ends up talking nonsense. Sadhguru actually knows, that’s why non-Hindus like me also listen

Talking about zakir naik on sadhgurus video lol no one talks about sathguru on zakir naik video...lol

Duhh This was outlined years ago by others .. Jaggi just copied this ..

@@Alephkilo may be , but world didn't know that but now jaggi reaches this every corner of the universe.

Cern = summoning dark lord it is in the air

it has not yet been 100 years since the fire nation attacked. Airbenders are gone.

Brother, what's your Continent Name...??? ☀🌙 ❤✌✝☮☸☪🕉 KALKI HERE

Oneness university ❤ Bhagavan Amma

i hve unlimited brahma whuich is defeating laksmi kali tow ek pappu hain...

Om Nithynanda Paramashivoham 🕉🙏👁

Yes, save Bengal first

You are right. Btw, Kalki is here already, and he is from Bangladesh. Give it a couple of years, and you will see, inshallah!

✨🙏✨

What limitations are those? Keep in mind you may be speaking to Vishnu. I’ll know if you’re being deceptive

how do you know that a universe is saying something ???

Respected sir, Namaste. You are absolutely correct. Avatar meher Baba says live in the present .only present exists .no past nor future. The present is so beautiful. He says only eternal present exists. There is no time in reality. Time relates to you MAYA. Once Maya ceases to exist then the jeevatma knows he is none other paramatma. Please read about meher Baba .

@@saladisrinivas4597 such bullshit you write it is beyond nonsense and how does he know all these ?? Is There a DEMONSTRATION OR TESTABLE?? ONE CAN SAY ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TTHAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS TRUE .. WHAT IS ETERNAL PRESENT ?? HOW DOES HE KNOW THIS ??

@@tedschwartz2142 Respected sir When god comes in human form mankind ignores him, even torture him which happened in the case of Jesus Christ and prophet Mohammed. Sir. If you want to know about the eternal present read the book of AVATAR MEHER BABA, the everything and nothing. Then you can understand what is eternal present. Sir, time will prove who is the present avatar.

Jai SiyaaRaam Jai Anjaneya 🙏🇮🇳🕉️

Exactly

KALKI Is Here ☀️🌙🙏✌😀

How do we end the evils without an apocalypse. Will everyone on earth chant one name ? See the catch 22 ?

Oneness university ❤ Amma Bhagavan

Jesus is Kalki

@@sirchad9443 poda punda

@@sirchad9443 connect to your guide and you will know. Gratitude

@@sirchad9443 Kalki Avatar is not came yet

@@shreyashpatil3336 yes, I know this. Kalki is a copy of the 2nd coming of Jesus as stated in Revelations in which Jesus will be the white horseman.

Brother. the 4th avatar was not varah . It was Mohini Buddha wasn't the avatar of lord Vishnu , he will only take one avatar in Kaliyuga

@@saitama-fy8yc Well there are definitely different interpretations of canonized Hindu avatars. I only listed the 10 avatars as explained by Sadhguru in case any audience members wanted a recap of his explanations.

Buddha was the 9th avatar. He is the most influential... and last few avatars are very influential. @@saitama-fy8yc

@@saitama-fy8yc actually lord vishnu has 24 avatar in which mohini is 4th but the main and prominent avatars is 10

@@timdecleire1792 lord vishnu has 24 avatars in which 10 are most prominent ones which sadhguru told

Bruh 🤌🏻

Seems like God "word" is so cheap ! It's because our emotions don't understand the logic. You know what ? 'G' is conditional and can be used just as a term . Jaggi tum jo bhi kar rahe ho na ? Ye mat karo ! Abhi tak to tum bekasoor ho .. tum acche admi ho ...! Aisa khel zada dino ka nahi chalta , better hai un sabko mana karde ....... Narendar tujhse milta hai , usko bhi bol de . In logon ne kabhi kisi ka bhala nahi kiya ? kya kami hai ? Baki tum logon ki marzi 👍🏻

What!!! God is incomparable to this sophist!!! Avatar is not a quality but God Himself descended in form.

Excuse me ?? is a indien scammer, no more than that.

Sadghuru talks much Bullshi*t. I listened to many of his videos.

Nope, he is miss guiding people. Buddha never said I am avatara of Vishnu, he said there's no God. He rejected God.

@@DevBishwasBh Buddha never said he is avatar! People consider him as that. Sadhguru clarified on it!

@@ketuue5333 Sister, thank for the reply. But how is he clarifying? He is saying Buddha was the avatar of Bishnu. And Buddha himself rejected God-ism?

@@ketuue5333 Feels contradictory and misinterpreted.

@@DevBishwasBh plz see the starting of this video. Sadguru said people told u in different ways to explain the concept. And in between he also said these are not people (Rama,krishna,Buddha ......) These are represented the qualities. Just to convey the evolution theory we used the Avatar concept.

The avatars can be linked to sumerian scripts in fact whatever written in sanskrit frok veda to mahabharatha to ramayana can be linked to sumerian scripts same goes to quran and bible.. meditation originated from indus civilisation and spread to south india sri lanka and nepal.. the start of shaivism.. the aryans created vaishnavism with thousands of gods similar to sumerian script.. monotheism was only realised by buddha when he followed shaivism which is called buddhism nowadays

Recorded human civilisation started around 5000bc.. Sumerians invented first writings and could be traced to 4000bc.. they invented most of our daily basic necessity today from time to wheels to buildings and the first religion written on cuneiform writings which tells about the great flood, adam and eve, multiple gods, avatars... later at 1400bc jewish religion came about and they started to pray to many Gods similar to sumerians.. at around 1500bc the indus civilisation collapsed and the dravidians went south of india and some stayed north at pakistan.. and came the aryan invasion with vedic teaching using sanskirt also at around 1500bc.. if vedic teaching was at around 1500bc, so vaishnavism which talks folktales of thousands of gods and avatars also shud hv appeared around this time.. so prevedic shaivism shud hv existed prior to 1500bc and likely the mode of religion in indus valley which goes back to 3000bc.. at 600 bc isiaih decided to merge all the gods into one because monotheism from buddhism were becoming popular at that time.. so monotheism appeared at around 600bc and then the start of christianity around 2bc.. jesus and buddha has lots of similarities so maybe both of them cud be the same person jz like how murugan cud be alexander the great.. because after buddha's teaching which made humans realise that god is only 1 (monotheism), after 600 years of realisation that god is only one emerged christianity.. so jesus christ cud be modified buddha's story.. and then at around 600AD.. muhammad modified every versions from sumerian, hebrew to bible and invented a better holy book and started propagating islam also a monotheism religion.. so basically monotheism already existed at indus civilisation and likely was prevedic shaivism.. and later as polytheism getting its peak around the world including india due to aryan invasion, buddha had to intervene and make everyone realise that god is only 1.. that is why the aryan version of hindu religion which is vaishnavism is still followed by us hindu till today.. buddhism somehow realised the actual teaching of monotheism is from prevedic shaivism not the aryan version of vaishnavism.. and then at around 320bc alexander the great came to india and only fought king porus and won but spared his life plus did not cont the war against the mauryan empire.. so he went back to babylon and died a few years after.. so the the demise made king chandragupta of maurya to make him the god of war in india as a deity because they already had thousands of gods at that time so they added him.. and that is how skanda kanda iskandar murugan is worshipped and murugan worshipping was at its peak during sangam era around 300bc and we still worship to murugan till today as the most populsr deity for the Tamils.. i think everyone shud start reading back history and to seek only for the truth, not jz blindly believe onto everything.. only the truth will prevail.. the original teaching of god is only 1 and reaching god is thru meditation not prayers goes back to prevedic shaivism and later buddhism.. om namah shivahya 🙏🏽

​@@TruthSeeker69921monotheism have nothing to do with shaivism , don't talk nonsense.

Be sure He is coming to help us Sadhguru Knows who he is

Lol noob

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Amen? But the bs bible says earth is only 6000 years old 🐷🐷💩💩

Jai shree Ram

@@vigneshms628 what's noob about this?

Ya. He talks Rubbish .

The avatars can be linked to sumerian scripts in fact whatever written in sanskrit frok veda to mahabharatha to ramayana can be linked to sumerian scripts same goes to quran and bible.. meditation originated from indus civilisation and spread to south india sri lanka and nepal.. the start of shaivism.. the aryans created vaishnavism with thousands of gods similar to sumerian script.. monotheism was only realised by buddha when he followed shaivism which is called buddhism nowadays

@@madhaviradha2535 ..u r just not of that mental capacity!!!

Not true about he Sumerian scripts or about Buddha

I am thinking where did Buddha came inbetween the 10 avatars . Many dispute Gautam Buddha to be one of the avatars .

KALKI Is Here ☀️🌙🙏✌😀

​@@PrimeMinisterAbhilashKalkiG 😐

kalki avatar

He is preaching wrong to people And many are in sleeping mode because God kept them in sleeping mode Jai Kalki Bagwan ji ki 🙏🏻🪐🕉️ He is coming soon within few years 🪐🕉️🐎🙏🏻🕉️🪐🙏🏻🌞🌕🙏🏻

@@shivshakti9991 God keeping people in sleep mode, what's next. God smoking weed?

Sounds like the matrix, the meta verse

@@roflswamp6 God is always active in the protection of justice (Excerpt from message of Shri Datta Swami) The deity of justice is very very near and dear to God (Dharmasya prabhuracyutaḥ). If any soul tries to harm justice, God becomes very very furious (Vinaśāyaca duṣkṛtām). If a soul tries to support justice, God becomes very very happy. God is always active in the protection of justice and the destruction of injustice. If a soul tries to assist God in this work, the soul is fully blessed by God with His eternal grace. The sole aim of the entire spiritual knowledge and the entire human life is only to please God and get His grace by the end of one’s human life. Hence, if the soul sincerely tries to oppose injustice and support justice in day to day life, that is the best practical implementation of spirituality in life. This is practical spiritual life. It is pravṛtti divinised by nivṛtti and it greatly pleases God. Although pleasing God by supporting justice is an indirect means of pleasing God, it is very very important. However much one may try to please God directly through devotion, if one goes against justice in day to day life, it is of no use because God always gets furious with such a soul. Rāvaṇa was the greatest devotee of God and he even cut off his many heads and offered them to God, as if they were red lotus flowers. But in practical life, he was constantly doing injustice and harming justice. Even his unimaginable devotion could not save him from the divine punishment given to him for his sins. If the soul follows justice in practical life and also becomes a direct devotee of God, God is pleased with the soul indirectly as well as directly. Justice in pravṛtti (worldly life) and devotion in nivṛtti (spiritual life) are the two feet of God. If you worship one foot with flowers and pierce the other foot with thorns, the final result is only pain since both will not neutralise each other. Universal Spirituality for World Peace

@@sn713 beautiful post, what I meant to say however is that it sounds like the metaverse matrix doesn't it ?

The avatars can be linked to sumerian scripts in fact whatever written in sanskrit frok veda to mahabharatha to ramayana can be linked to sumerian scripts same goes to quran and bible.. meditation originated from indus civilisation and spread to south india sri lanka and nepal.. the start of shaivism.. the aryans created vaishnavism with thousands of gods similar to sumerian script.. monotheism was only realised by buddha when he followed shaivism which is called buddhism nowadays

Wait I never thought of that this way

and what about "possible", shastra says that constant efforts turns unpossible into possible, and all "mathematics" mentioned just does not exist (or prove me wrong).

Hello, Rinku.. KALKI Is Here ☀️🌙🙏✌😀..

Andhbhakti😂

Kalki is here and yess you got it right ❤

Kalki is not here yet... there is no need yet... not until things really deteriorate... just because you see a good person, doesn't make them Kalki@@jitinksahni6482

Kalki is not here yet... there is no need yet... not until things really deteriorate... just because you see a good person, doesn't make them Kalki@@PrimeMinisterAbhilashKalkiG

Hindu purvjo ko taim..treval..jante the .hajaro Saal purane .mandiro me Aaj .fon..leaptap..fesan..Sab bharat ke..hajaro Saal .purane mandir me .dikhega .pravin mohan hindi ke vidio dekho .youtyub..par

Ikr! That aura is Divine

I suggest you read Holy Quran!Watch Dr Zakir Naik!

@@roynashick9233 sorry to say bro, Zakir Naik is a joker bringing down the consciousness of humans. He is far from wisdom, a bunch of misinterpreted lies... He himself is a dark lost soul, dragging others, he is what's called Asuras!

🇮🇳 is STILL rich with AVATARS. 🌹

@@kbalachandran2007 Read Holy Quran!Watch Dr Zakir Naik!

@@adityap1909 He is so full of hatred.. zakir naik. Plus he is a coward. Now that his sins are exposed,he ran and hid in malaysia

You are Wright. In BHAGAVATH it is BALARAMA denoting new stone age when human being started AGRICULTURE. But in a book from PUTTUPARTHI I have 📖read BUDDHA in the place of BALARAMA. 🌷

@@kbalachandran2007 Sai Baba in three physical forms -. Shirdi Sai, Satya Sai, and Prema Sai Baba is the 10th Avatar or Kalyuga Avatar.

Lord Vishnu is incarnation of Buddha not vice versa

@@mukulanand2787 lol 😶✌ may shri krishna bless you

@@hrithikmaity609 same to u bro , may Buddha give u wisdom Krishna is only Buddha or Buddha is Krishna that's y when he comes all gods are sidelined

The avatars can be linked to sumerian scripts in fact whatever written in sanskrit frok veda to mahabharatha to ramayana can be linked to sumerian scripts same goes to quran and bible.. meditation originated from indus civilisation and spread to south india sri lanka and nepal.. the start of shaivism.. the aryans created vaishnavism with thousands of gods similar to sumerian script.. monotheism was only realised by buddha when he followed shaivism which is called buddhism nowadays

KALKI Is Here ☀️🌙🙏✌😀

🙏We have an incarnation here rignt now. SPH Bhagavan Nithyananda Paramashiviam 🔱 Blessings on your path to liberation 🕉

@@lotuslewissmith95 no not him 😂😂😂

​@@TruthSeeker69921 Pass on the weed Pls 😂😂. Rubbish .

Balarama was sheshanag not Vishnu ...

Who said balram was vishnu avatar Its sheshnaag I dont know who thinks of such theories We all know sheshnaag is devotee of lord vishnu Everytime he took birth sheshnaag came with him to serve him In ramyan he came as laxman and in mahabharat as balram

Buddha was the 9th avatar. He is the most influential... and last few avatars are very influential.

Adi means first, Yoga means Union(of body, mind & everything)

The avatars can be linked to sumerian scripts in fact whatever written in sanskrit frok veda to mahabharatha to ramayana can be linked to sumerian scripts same goes to quran and bible.. meditation originated from indus civilisation and spread to south india sri lanka and nepal.. the start of shaivism.. the aryans created vaishnavism with thousands of gods similar to sumerian script.. monotheism was only realised by buddha when he followed shaivism which is called buddhism nowadays

Wrong

thats what he said buddha is incarnation of vishnu

There were 2 Buddha:= one the Buddha and other Siddhartha and both of them merge and became one

@@pixie-bo6wi I haven't read something as ridiculous as this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏

@@hemantsuthar1585 😹 Omg

@@pixie-bo6wi dbz fans be like : Fuuuu, Sionnn ,, Haaahhhh

Read Holy Quran! watch Dr Zakir Naik!

@@roynashick9233 I've done so. You should read the Vedic Sastras; they're par excellence...

@@paulramrattan8278 Dr.Zakir Naik is an expert on Vedas.

@@roynashick9233 one has to be a self-realized personality to truly understand the Vedas. They're not to be interpreted from a scholarly standpoint...

@@paulramrattan8278 I have not read vedas.i have read Gita, Upanishads,some Puranas.Truly Holy Quran is the truth.

False

😹😹 Avtar kya hai wo samjo

@@avatar9084 Ji samja... Brahman hone ke lia brahm ka gyan chaiye, experience+knowledge dono honaa bahut accha hota hai.

Nah

Lord Krishna describes qualities of a human into 4 categories: Brahmin : Devote of God, one who spreads true knowledge and wisdom in the society to establish a harmonious and civil future. (Preaching Knowledge to everyone is their Dharma.) Kshatriya: Admirer of God, One who has tremendous amounts of courage to fight for ones motherland and its people. (Protecting the weak and fighting against evil and crimes is their Dharma) Vaishiya: Worshipper of God, Honest people at heart,will never cheat anyone for their own greed and set up good connections with trade.(Telling the truth ,maintaining Trust, building prosperity is their Dharma) Shudra: Every moment dedicated to God , Tremendously hard working, extremely patient in faithfully completing their work. (Any work done with perfection and honesty is their Dharma.) So, as per this note, there is no hierarchy in castes, all castes are equal. Castes in fact are just supposed to be category of qualities which define a person and in fact who said shudra son will be a shudra? it can be a brahmin also, kshatriya also, vaishya also...... Similarly a brahmins son can be a kshatriya also, vaishya also etc.... In this Kaliyuga everything is not as it seems. Follow Lord Krishna's guidance stop this caste hierarchy bullshit and move on to create a better system of understanding.

he was not a god or u can call him god becuz everyone is capable of God, he was the first yogi, Adiyogi or Shiva or Mahadev

God is never one.If all power lies in one hand.Then he can do whatever he wants to.The universe is completely his.So,in hinduism their are 3 supreme lords. G-Generator(Brahma) O-Operator(Vishnu) D-Destroyer(Shiva)

@@ridhimadas1965 then there is their mother Durga ma.. the Mother of all

@@___Sevak___ yeah(adi sakhti)

very much he is a fraud too. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS VISHNU OR IT IS PROOOVEN TO EXISTS ::: SO HOW CAN THIS BE Z TRUE ??

Hehehe true....

Who ? 😅

WHAT IS CHANGING EXACTLY?

@@aayushsingh.7194 The planets and sun are going through accelerated changes in various ways. Earth included, of course

@@aayushsingh.7194 Check suspicious observers channel for some info on it

@@lucid227 thanks

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Some say Lord Perumal is Lord Vishnu's avatar...I don't think so...he is not a avatar...he is lord Vishnu himself

@@gautamb0927 lord himself yes

🙏We have an incarnation here rignt now. SPH Bhagavan Nithyananda Paramashiviam 🔱 Blessings on your path to liberation 🕉 Vega Agams, Shastra pramana, Apt pramana 🙏

This is how we lost many to other religions. Dont white wash.

This person will make his own foolishness. That is all.

@@srlittilemarysabs2138 😃

We Biharis Consider Buddha as 9th Avatar of Lord Vishnu. This is our Belief 👍. I dont know from which state you are, But this is how it is!

@@mayankbadgami2052 if so we one you omit among the ten avatars?!

@@jag.5519 If you can't respect a community's belief, you are as equal as any radical Muslim Mindset

Read Holy Quran! watch Dr Zakir Naik!

@@roynashick9233 💩

@@roynashick9233 read Bhagavatgit you will stop spread your religion.

Sarvam Kalavitam Brahma Tat Tvam Asi Aham Brahmasmi Your welcome.

In Biblical times, parables were used as illustrations to link the physical day to day world to the spiritual journey. Nothing different here. In fact it is extremely valuable for some seekers to realize that such authentic gurus are well ahead of the scientific consciousness.

@@bigfletch8 what is not convincing is that his view raise more questions than the answers. With all the due respect to Sadhguru, I am not convinced with the statements. This raises more question as why the fishes and tortoises did not evolve into the human? Moreover Darvins theory of evolution itself is questionable. The Avatar is more to do with restoring the eternal truth. When Adharma dominates Dharma God takes the Avatar to restore it. He lives just for one generation and goes back. Sadhguru view simply contradicts it.

@@raghu4utube Contradictions are mind creations. There is no start and finish to the process so "tortoise spirit" always has its role to play in the evolution. Think of rungs on an eternal ladder.

Sad guru smokes something bad ilogically logically logicked out of the brain and so he speaks like that.

You are fool! Read Holy Quran!watch Dr Zakir Naik!

@@roynashick9233 if you watch zakir naik you are the fool one.

@@roynashick9233 islam =💩🤣

@@roynashick9233 yea rt,,,earth is flat 🤣🤣🤣

@@roynashick9233 women should be submissive Quran?

Read Holy Quran!

Oh that’s the greatest philosophy, also don’t read half preserved book like Quran, few pages of which were eaten by Goat.

Aum Sai Ram 🙏❤️

Kalki is Jesus they both are said to come back at the end of the yuga they are both said to return on a white steed. The Bhavishya Purana Quran and the Bible speak of the same being returning. The relation of Jesus/kalki to Krishna is that Jesus taught the path of love to get to the lord, Krishna said in the gita that all paths lead to him.

@@VijiraAsura I would add that if you know the "face" of Prema Sai, it turns out to be very similar to the face of Jesus Christ at that time (2,000 years ago), so BOTH ARE THAT.

@@VijiraAsura I would add that if you know the "face" of Prema Sai, it turns out to be very similar to the face of Jesus Christ at that time (2,000 years ago), so BOTH ARE THAT.

@@krzysztofbekier5782 yes you see it to!

Well said... When he speak in english..people think he is intelligent...and he knows all... religion is a drug...it makes u live in a dream till death..and he simply said Darvin close his eyes and tells everything... Always he speak bla bla think...

Buddha never argued so let’s close our eyes and find the truth Truth has to be realized not by arguing don’t believe in anything find out yourself by looking inwards 🙏

🙏We have an incarnation here rignt now. SPH Bhagavan Nithyananda Paramashiviam 🔱 Blessings on your path to liberation 🕉 Vega Agams, Shastra pramana, Apt pramana 🙏

You don't know what Buddha said... most of what he "said" has been made up now. Also Buddha is an avatar.... but he did not know this or say this because this was suppose to represent a human avatar, an avatar of human meditation without powers. Association with the word avatar would mean supernatural powers, which this 9th avatar of Vishnu tried to avoid. This is the beauty of this avatar. Another indication of this being the 9th avatar of Vishnu is his TREMENDOUS influence.... there were many buddhas, but this human was the most influential despite not having powers, and so is now, in retrospect, clearly Vishnu's 9th avatar. This was the avatar that tried to eliminate suffering and particularly the suffering of humans as a human. Buddha's story is beautiful, because it started with him living as a prince living the most fabulous pleasurable life, but then 3 phenomena's shook Buddha's psyche which then led him to 4-8 years in search through all the "ways" in order to become Buddha. The 3 phenomena were OLD AGE, DISEASE, AND DEATH. This life, as the destiny of humanity would have it, was very carefully orchestrated and organized such that his life became a story of the solution to suffering. Hence, an avatar, of the orchestrator himself Vishnu.

Even buddha is not aware that he gave any declaration that you are saying 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Today people's are saying anything and giving it name of buddha . 🤣🤣😭😆

Yeah boss I was wondering sab jhut hai saying saying Darwin never visited The Galapagos Islands sab jhut hai jo manme aye sab bol dete hai

Only vaishnava scriptures believe in it ...

Hare krishna

It's a stark reality ! Truth hurts and hurts very deep, indeed ! Infact, a truth is always a truth and will remain a truth forever - irrespective of whether someone will like it or not - or - may it taste unpalatable to someone ! No one can cover it up for long - however hard and long one may try ! It comes out into the open on its own ! How right was Lao Tzu in his assessment in saying -" The truth is not always beautiful nor beautiful words the truth !"

@@cosmictruth3600all the scriptures both vaishnav, shaiv etc were given by Veda vyas who himself is a partial incarnation of Narayan. Even in other non vaishnav scriptures talk about different avatars etc shiv puran where goddess Parvati wanted to test God Ram. You can read for yourself.

@@anilnanduri2319 sir, I appreciate your response to my comment.( sorry for my long reply now.. I hope you are able to read it with undivided attention) .. from your xomment I can see that you are deviating ..my previous comment was not about the vedas and who gave it to the humanity.. I was mentioning abut the 10 avatars of vishnu ..jnfact there are more than 10 avatars of vishnu but the main ones are the 10 ..... when I said vaishnava scriptures..i wonder why are you twisting the topic and bringing irreverent things like who gave the vedas ... the topic was not about vedas at all ... and btw just for your knowledge ..there is no mention of any avatars in the vedas ... avatars are mentioned in Puranas ... puranas as the name suggests means dating back to the pre historic periods ...fyi Puranas are the thoughts and perceptions of various rishis apprehended during their meditative state and orally transfered to the people of those times ...hence there are many puranas in different sects ... vaishnavas have their own puranas , shivites have their own puranas respectively all of whihc are the works of different rishis from their belief system and school of thoughts... and their perceptions also differ from one another and how they articulated what they apprehended .. There may be mention of lord Rama in shiv purana ...but mentioning of lord ramas name doesn't mean it's declared in shiv puran that Rama is an avatar of vishnu.. like I said ... all these puranas are stories created by rishis of those times ( pre historic ) carrying a moral value and a certain belief system to connect with the divine.. . Lord Rama is considered as an avatar of vishnu ( by vaishnavites ) due to his divine qualities... I am a vaishnavite myself but I am trying to see things in a most nuetral way ... even in today's times anybody with some divine quality is declared as an avatar ...for example Sai baba, ramana maharishi, Ramakrishna paramahansa, etc ..all were believed as the avatars... where as they were just human beings with high spiritual qualities... so just imagine lord Rama who was perfect in evryr aspect of self realization and spiritual elevation ..so due to that he was believed to be some avatar of the Supreme ( vishnu, who is the Supreme as per the vaishnava beliefs and shiva is the Supreme as per the shivite beliefs) .. now coming to the veda vyas giving the vedas .. I would beg to differ once again from your point sir ... fyi vedas had always existed ..no one knows their date of origin.. Vedas are not thought to have been revealed to a certain person or personas at any specific historical moment ... they always existed and were apprehended by sages during their deep meditative state at some particular time but when it is unknown... and about vedavyas as an avatar or partial avatar of Narayana..again it's the Same logic that people apply to men with spiritual qualities for example Sai baba, ramana maharishi etc ...Vedavyas was not any avatar ( as believed by some school of thoughts ) ..but because he was a rishi of Supreme yogic power due to whihc ..certain sects believe about him as an avatar ...