Nürburgring Südschleife Surviving parts Abandoned Race Track

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Circuits of the past

Circuits of the past

3 жыл бұрын

Nürburgring Südschleife Surviving parts Abandoned Race Track
In this Circuits of the past video we show you a lap on the surviving parts of the abandoned section of the famous Nürburgring. This section is known as the Nürburgring Südschleife. Südschleife is German for Southern Loop.
The abandoned Southern Loop of the Nürburgring can be seen as the forgotten part of this iconic race track in Germany.
When the Nürburgring opened in 1927, the complex included the famous 14.17 Miles long Northern Loop - in German Nordschleife - a 1.4 Miles Start/Finish Loop and the 4.8 Miles long Südschleife.
While the prestigious Northern Loop was used for international races, like the German Formula One Grand Prix, the Südschleife was used for national events.
After 1975 the Südschleife became in disuse. And when the Nürburgring lost the German Grand Prix after the terrible crash from Niki Lauda in 1976, plans were made to modernise the Nürburgring.
Victim of the modernisation was the old Südschleife. To built the new Grand Prix Circuit they demolished the old Start/Finish Loop and the northern part of the Südschleife.
When you enter the remaining part of the old Südschleife today you first enter a public road that follows the old layout. For traffic they increased the radius of the corners, so this section is actually faster as it used to be.
The most southern part of the Südschleife was used for an extension for the village of Müllenbach. As a reminder to the track they named the road Südschleife.
We’re now approaching the Müllenbach Corner, a slow right-hander on the most southern point of the Südschleife. After this corner follows a long and fast ascending part that leads back to the Start/Finish Loop.
For the next part you have to make a long detour to the southern parking of the current Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit.
There is an abandoned original part of the old Nürburgring Südschleife. This section is abandoned because thety never gave it a new destination. Let's hope this section is preserved and never repurposed.
However, this part is in a very bad condition with huge holes in the surface. But there is also another original section of the Südschleife which is still in good condition. That's because it is now used as an entrance road to the parking lot during events on the current Nürburgring.
At the highest point of the remained Südschleife is a very slow corner namen Scharfer Kopf. Here also ends the remained part of the Südschleife. The next corner is public road but still follows the layout of the Südschleife.
However, not for long. After this corner the Südschleife ends. Here was the connection with the Start/Finish Loop. Today the new Grand Prix Circuit is here.
More information about the lost Südschleife on my website:
www.circuitsofthepast.com/nur... (English)
www.circuitsofthepast.nl/nurb... (Nederlands)
Special thanks to Simon Smith for the voiceover. Visit also his channel: / higherplaingames
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@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Next week we go back to the Reims-Gueux Circuit for part two of the exploration of the buildings. In part two we explore the grandstands. In case you didn't see part one, here the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNxmeduiyNKwd6c.html
@happysoul1907
@happysoul1907 3 жыл бұрын
It's been a long time since part one (about 3 videos)
@happysoul1907
@happysoul1907 3 жыл бұрын
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@happysoul1907
@happysoul1907 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I meant will you be exploring the press grand stand as well?
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
@@happysoul1907 Yes, I also explored tne press grandstand.
@happysoul1907
@happysoul1907 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to ask what is your favourite track that you have explored? And that you have not explored (I'm sorry if I am annoying you but I'm jus t very passionate about old circuits)
@yindyamarra
@yindyamarra 3 жыл бұрын
herman broke the lap record for 2020 and a front wishbone
@Bramon83
@Bramon83 3 жыл бұрын
😂😅🤣😅😂🤣😅😂🤣😅👏👏👏👏👏
@Whataboutit
@Whataboutit 3 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely fantastic to watch. Thank you very much! I live close by the Ring, knew about Südschleife, but didn't know, where it was or what it looked like today. Awesome video! Well done!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Gigidag77
@Gigidag77 3 жыл бұрын
I visited the Südschleife last month. I don't know but there really is some kind of "aura" walking the abandoned section. Just thinking of folks going 200km/h+ up the hill (It Is very steep, i'd compare it to the current day "Fuchsröhre" part of the Nordschleife, just going uphill instead of down with a few flat out corners through the trees. The drivers of the past who raced there had some serious balls, lol I wish they had kept the Südschleife and modernised it as the "new" GP circuit, OR build the GP circuit somewhere in addition to the old Süd & Norschleife without interfeering with them. It's sad to see the track forgotten and partially gone forever. (Part of it is now just a big industrial waste lot in the Town of Müllenbach, other gone parts are now... grass, trees and bushes). In the town of Müllenbach, theres also a short old access road to the Südschleife that now leads to nowhere. there were still some very faint markings when I was there. I kind of wonder why they didn't re-use the abandoned section as a public road. Because now there is one running right next to it back up to the current GP circuit. But maybe that road was allready there in 1984. BTW: Next time you visit, make sure to do a "lap" of the almost completely forgotten "Bergpreis Bad Neuenahr" hillclimb track, just a few miles from the Ring. It's very scenic, AND to this day you can find the starting line clearly visible and very faintly the letters *S T A R T* written above it. :D Preserve the history.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the aditional information. Near the town of Müllenbach was an exit/entry to the Südschleife, just like at Adenau on the Nordschleife. I think the road you talk about is from that entry. Next time I will look for that one. And then I will also look for the Bergpreis Bad Neuenah Hillclimb Track. Thanks for the tip!
@Gigidag77
@Gigidag77 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Yes, I also assumed it was an entrance for public cars like in Adenau. Was it even possible to have "tourist drives" on the Südschleife while there was any event going on at the Nordschleife ? Obviously both couldn't use the start/finish straight at the same time.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gigidag77 I don't know if it was used for Tourist Rides during events on the Nordschleife. However, there was a shortcut named the "Stichstrasse" built in 1938 to make it possible to use the Südschleife separately from the rest of the track. See also this article: www.circuitsofthepast.com/nurburgring-sudschleife/
@Me-eb3wv
@Me-eb3wv 3 жыл бұрын
Woag
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
@@Me-eb3wv Woag
@Ricketik65
@Ricketik65 3 жыл бұрын
It certainly looks like The Green Hell extended south a bit in the past. Nice video, Herman!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Cynderfan35
@Cynderfan35 3 жыл бұрын
Trough mod for Assetto Corsa, the old forgotten section was brought back to life in a way, its very good replication of the original full track, as player can drive any combination and get to feel sort of what the drivers of the past did. When I took my lap around the southern loop, it felt like driving around something forgotten long time ago.
@saltservice4024
@saltservice4024 3 жыл бұрын
And here I was considering Assetto Corsa on the xbox for months. As you can tell I've not gotten around to buying it, but now reading your comment, discovering this video, being a current lover of Nordschleife... Definitely will buy on PC instead and try that mod. Thanks for sharing your comment, glad to know about what you have said.
@Oleg-oe1rc
@Oleg-oe1rc 3 жыл бұрын
@@saltservice4024 That's just the tip of the iceberg, look up "shuto revival project" on youtube
@DavG_NZ
@DavG_NZ 2 жыл бұрын
i watched a 3 lap race of that mod with a Tatra 603, giving a taste of what the 84hr races would've been like in the 1960's. Although it made me wonder what Südschleife might look like if it were still a racetrack today. 🤔
@burblingbarbacoa4944
@burblingbarbacoa4944 2 жыл бұрын
@@saltservice4024 there are so many fantastic mods. It's almost overwhelming how much free/basically-free content there is to try. Tons of great historical preservation projects like the '67 Nurburgring mentioned. Others, for example are the fantastic tracks from 'F3 Classic Tracks', including a standalone high detail Sudchleife, the full pack of 1923 grand prix cars by 'NiceCuppaTea', and basically anything made by Fat Alfie.
@wibblewabblewoo6249
@wibblewabblewoo6249 5 ай бұрын
100% agree every track mod by Fat Alfie is incredible I’d suggest that Automobilista 2’s 1971 version of Sudschleife is well worth giving a try too, great fun in VR with older F1 cars of the 60s / 70s - and a little bit mental in cars from 80s onwards, but the lovely thing about sim racing is we can try things that in real life would never have been possible. I recently had stupid amounts of fun driving as 1991 Nigel Mansell’s Williams around the Sudschleife 😂
@guillaumegras2200
@guillaumegras2200 3 жыл бұрын
So sweet to hear a good old MX-3 V6. That was my 1st sports car.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
In the video from next Friday you will here it even better :)
@theblooper9631
@theblooper9631 3 жыл бұрын
"Herman had to drive slowly because if holes in the road surface" I think Herman needs a rally car.
@Kevin_40
@Kevin_40 3 жыл бұрын
Who else thought they knew a lot about Nurburgring, but never even heard once of "Sudschleife" ?
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I think on my very first visit to the Nürburgring in the early 1990's I didn't hear about the Südschleife. But those days I already read books about motorsport history and soon I discovered there was also a Südschleife. On my next visit I drove the section which is now public road. At 2:13 I kept following the public road and drove parallel to the abandoned section, assuming I was still on the old Südschleife. Years later I discovered on the internet where the Südschleife really was. And now I teach other people about the Südschleife :)
@joeybacker8429
@joeybacker8429 3 жыл бұрын
I'm local and never heard of a Südschleife! But when you think about it, it's pretty obvious. When there's a northern loop, there must be a southern one somewhere 🤗
@argo9750
@argo9750 3 жыл бұрын
I have always thought that Sudschleife is the current GP circuit.
@JohnClarkGaming
@JohnClarkGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I knew about the crash and the rework but i never bothered bringing up the old track. It would be nice if they did a tribute track on GT
@whirlybirdrc
@whirlybirdrc 3 жыл бұрын
This is extremely informative, i have possibly driven over a 100 laps on the Ring. Watched many older videos about the ring but i never knew this part of the old track till this day! Fantastic to watch thank you very much!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Great to hear people discover new things because of my videos.
@leewhitworth9142
@leewhitworth9142 3 жыл бұрын
The way it leads you to the modern GP circuit is like the past guiding you to the present. Soo cool, I love old circuits
@johanlamprecht5577
@johanlamprecht5577 3 жыл бұрын
Glad they kept NS at least when they built the GP circuit. Unlike what they did at Hockenheim when they destroyed the entire old track. Very interesting video thanks
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Yeah I'm glad you can still drive some sections of the Südschleife. At Hockeheim they only kept one straight between the Ostkurve and the Senna Chicane. Check this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f5dgebVosa3ImoU.html
@roadtonurburgring
@roadtonurburgring 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! I just found out that people had developed mods for Assetto Corsa including the old Sudschleife... I also plan to do a video on that... but seeing it live, for real is just incredible! Thank you so much for that...
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@baccattack
@baccattack Жыл бұрын
Thanks - just seen that a rendition of this is coming in virtual form to AMS2 as part of the Historic 1971 Nurburgring track they are releasing. Someone on the forums linked to your video. Never really known anything about it until now, can't wait to drive it in VR.
@anakkonda3650
@anakkonda3650 3 жыл бұрын
That was quite vast for an abandoned circuit section, nice
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robdavies82
@robdavies82 3 жыл бұрын
Hermann probably does what I do when I go to races as a spectator - everybody else gets out of their cars in the carpark and looks for the ticket booths, but I’m busy walking around the perimeter roads of the carpark field because a circuit once ran around there 🤣
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always looking for traces of old layouts ;)
@helgelippert1970
@helgelippert1970 3 жыл бұрын
I never know about the Südschleife, so really cool to see that old part of the track. At the Nordschleife is an adandon part of the track as well. The name is "Steilstrecke". I visited this part of the track years ago and it is very steep. It is a connection from the highest point of the Nordschleife (Hohe Acht) to last corner near the "Karussell".
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
I know. In 2004 I made there a stop during a "Tourist Ride" (Touristenfahrten) to make some pictures. Here the article with the pictures: www.circuitsofthepast.com/steilstrecke-nurburgring/
@lukaskrambeer666
@lukaskrambeer666 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Hermann and Simon, thank you for all the videos. keep on going.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JK-tj6ie
@JK-tj6ie 3 жыл бұрын
I live 10 km away from the main circuit and never heard of the ,,Südschleife''. I defently miss something in my life. Need to walk there soon
@zalangueth4983
@zalangueth4983 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew that there is a Südschleife.
@vladimirzimonja8103
@vladimirzimonja8103 3 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is something youtube was REALLY made for. Old school circuits,old school racing. Love it. Coming from a guy whose only completed picture album of the childhood was,and is,F1. So Cheers,Grus gott and Pozdrav from Croatian petrolhead!!!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Nice that you are so enthusiastic about my channel. Pozdrav from a Dutch petrolhead!
@vladimirzimonja8103
@vladimirzimonja8103 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for such a speedy reply,Cheers!
@racermac1988
@racermac1988 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I always thought that much of the Grand Prix course actually overlapped the old South Loop than this. Way cool that much of the course is still in tact.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
The current GP course doesn't overlap the Südschleife at all. Only the Start/Finish straight of the S/F Loop (Start- und Zielschleife) is still on the same site, but that's it. I agree, it's cool that they let something of the old Südschleife and reuse a part as public road.
@wyvern4588
@wyvern4588 3 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this track in a video game, I can't remember if it was R4, Lamans 24 or one of the GranTurismo, but I do remember that track outline. It's amazing how nature takes back it's land, it very sad to see a track like that die, but also interesting to see how nature changes it.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
I have that same double feelings when I explore these abandoned tracks.
@9nineofdiamonds
@9nineofdiamonds 3 жыл бұрын
Going through the untouched parts of Green Hell feels like a bit magical
@vale.antoni
@vale.antoni 3 жыл бұрын
The Nordschleife has a cutaway, that avoids the Karussel. The road continues straight after Klosteral, and the road surface switches from asphalt to grooved concrete, to account for the heavy incline, then rejoins the Nothern loop at Hoche Acht. This part was never raced on, rather it was used for testing, and for a brief time was open for Touristenfahrten - the latter was subsequently dropped in fear of a serious accident happening. Today the cutaway is still maintained, for use to practise the Karussel. The drivers take the banking, then at Hoche Acht, instead of turning right, they turn left onto the steep part going downhill to then rejoin the track after Klosteral.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
And the name of that cutaway is the Steilstrecke. Here the article I wrote about it years ago: www.circuitsofthepast.com/steilstrecke-nurburgring/
@wibblewabblewoo6249
@wibblewabblewoo6249 5 ай бұрын
This can be driven up in the game Automobilista 2! 😀
@MikuFan3931
@MikuFan3931 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for showing this. Brings lots of memories.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Elsquenchez
@Elsquenchez 3 жыл бұрын
I've never known much about the Sudschleife, so this video was awesome, thanks guys!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@yeahnahsweetas
@yeahnahsweetas 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys excellent video. You're doing motorsport a great service.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that :)
@espisk8
@espisk8 3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic document. Really nice job mate
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@plantfeeder6677
@plantfeeder6677 28 күн бұрын
I visited Nurburgring in July 1970 and for 10 German Marks you got to drive two laps on the track which blessedly at that time included both the Nordschliefe and the Sudschleife, which I immediately took on my first lap of the course. Back then all ingress/egress of the track was done at the actual pits and it was up to you to control your car entering and exiting. At the time I didn't quite grasp the historical significance of driving the actual Sudschleife since they were still having club races there I believe. It was in good condition and very capable of hosting a race. I found it to be a bit unchallenging especially compared to what lay ahead in the Nordschleife, but memorable none the less. Thanks for the look back. Glad to see parts of it are still around. I miss the old track. That first corner was always one of the great contested starts in Formula One.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this memory. Lucky you to drive on the combination of the Nord- and Südschleife.
@DeshWitus
@DeshWitus 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! I didn't know the Südschleife 😯👍👍
@stephanius9986
@stephanius9986 Жыл бұрын
That abandoned part has become beautiful with the trees almost connecting with eachother.. makes me wanna see it in real life 😄
@YootubeUK
@YootubeUK 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Really interesting video! Thanks you two from another Englishman who loves "The Ring". :)
@francoisg3500
@francoisg3500 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they had kept this circuit, did a bit of modernisation to some of the sections!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
From a nostalgic point of view I would like it if they kept this part. But I think this circuit is now also too long for F1 now. And there was also a lack of space to increase the run-offs, just like at the Nordschleife. Anyway, the current GP track is also cool, except that ugly Mercedes Arena designd by Tilke.
@francoisg3500
@francoisg3500 3 жыл бұрын
Circuits of the past agree the Mercedes Arena section is a bit boring,slow and overly technical.
@Quintendejong123
@Quintendejong123 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast (dont get me wrong) In your opinion, do you more like the turn 1,2 switchback?
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
@@Quintendejong123 Yes, the original corner was better. However, they could have made that chicane slower for more overtaking possibilities. But the Mercedes Arena is too slow and so not challenging. By the way, now the Mercedes Arena is there... This could have been a great location for a double race. One on full GP track without Mercedes Arena. And one on the shorter version (Kurzanbindung) with the Mercedes Arena.
@Quintendejong123
@Quintendejong123 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast why did they made the mercedes arena?
@marceloladousse7370
@marceloladousse7370 3 жыл бұрын
have no idea of this part of Nurburgring, thanks!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@gotham61
@gotham61 2 жыл бұрын
I went a few years ago, and specifically wanted to locate the abandoned sections of the old Sudschleife. My friends who were traveling with me thought I was nuts wanting to look at some old abandoned asphalt.
@helmuttdvm
@helmuttdvm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for preserving this history!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@TPau65
@TPau65 3 жыл бұрын
Compact and informative video of this iconic part of the Nürburgring! Vielen Dank dafür! 👍😃
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Bitte! :)
@borotone
@borotone 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I learnt something today. Thanks to everyone involved in making this video. :)
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Great to hear it's entertaining and educational :)
@rb5stevenumber903
@rb5stevenumber903 3 жыл бұрын
Found that very interesting. It always makes me feel a bit sad when the dont try and preserve what's left of the old historic circuits. Good video 👍
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Well, in case of the Südschleife they at least preserved a part, which is now the entrance to the parking. But it's a double feeling to visit such places. At one side it's cool to enter an abandoned circuit. On the other way, it's motorsport history in decay.
@5Komma5
@5Komma5 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thank you! The final part going through to overgrown trees looks amazing.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@dennisheinz9498
@dennisheinz9498 3 жыл бұрын
That is the part I always take to get to the Nordschleife. Living just 45minutes away from there.
@glenwaldrop8166
@glenwaldrop8166 6 ай бұрын
Hopefully someone will make a version of this, maybe the complete track. I'd love to run this on any racing game.
@woutermvt
@woutermvt 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice to learn about this!
@narvul
@narvul Жыл бұрын
I drove on the public road part so often because it's nice for motorcycles in a hurry but never realised it was part of the Südschleife.
@kittonsmitton
@kittonsmitton 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic I think it would be great to resurrect these tracks virtually for racing in different era's with cars to match with fans crowding the tracks like they used to.
@wibblewabblewoo6249
@wibblewabblewoo6249 5 ай бұрын
Assetto Corsa & Automobilista 2, it’s possible and LOTS of fun! 😊
@drazzleafrica9250
@drazzleafrica9250 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Keep em coming
@just6401
@just6401 3 жыл бұрын
Such a heart crushing thing to see for a F1 lover....😶
@bencekiss1990
@bencekiss1990 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos! I love them!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@AdamChristo
@AdamChristo 3 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant, I was overlaying the track map to google maps when I was there at the Nürburgring 24 hours and noticed it didn’t line up at the southern point of the circuit, definitely going exploring when in there in 2 weeks.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You can play my video on your smartphone to find the way now ;)
@thomashamilton9046
@thomashamilton9046 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this page is a amazing keep it up man!!
@lordcomicsans
@lordcomicsans 3 жыл бұрын
OMG I love this. Awesome content!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Don't forget to subscribe for more of this content ;)
@javichaguin1593
@javichaguin1593 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, thanks!!!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@tonylockhart1963
@tonylockhart1963 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, and thank you.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@L.r.e_motorsport
@L.r.e_motorsport 3 жыл бұрын
I rode down the abandoned part on a pushbike back in June, at first I didn’t realise it was the original part of the track, though I could tell it wasn’t a “normal” road, you can get some serious speed going down the hill by the way 😂 cool video
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Cool story :)
@brusecco
@brusecco Жыл бұрын
thank you! verrrrry interesting!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@vincentwalsh2480
@vincentwalsh2480 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video very informative! I also took the opportunity to download the ebook. I very much enjoyed it!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great to hear you enjoy my videos and ebook.
@henriquelbl
@henriquelbl 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rooramblingon895
@rooramblingon895 3 жыл бұрын
Did the Nord- and Süd-schleifen ever form one huge track via the start/finish loop? Or were they completely separate? Great video and channel! Thanks.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
They could also be used combined. The so called "Gesamtstrecke" was 28.265 Km long (17.564 Mile).
@rooramblingon895
@rooramblingon895 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Excellent. Thank you.
@MRacer001
@MRacer001 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast was there a lap record for this super track out of interest? What year was this btw?
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
​@@MRacer001 Yes there is, 2:386 (175.85 km/h) by Helmut Kelleners in a March 707 on 18 October 1970.
@christopherconrad5746
@christopherconrad5746 3 жыл бұрын
Learned something today!
@Sextusheap
@Sextusheap 3 жыл бұрын
Heartbroken that I will never be able to race on the Nürburgring in its old form.
@onelyone6976
@onelyone6976 3 жыл бұрын
Well the public road sections look like quite fun b-roads although it still is a bummer the complete track no longer exists. IMO the public road sections also look like a wonderful place to cool down yourself and the your car after a lap around the ring, it probably isn’t a bad choice either to warm up on the surviving südschleife before going flat out on the nordschleice
@muzzy1965
@muzzy1965 3 жыл бұрын
Like always, very nice ! groeten, Hans
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Bedankt!
@s1lanc98
@s1lanc98 3 жыл бұрын
The 24h of Nürburgring would be even better with the Südschleife. Imagine them starting on the GP track, than at the Dunlop Kehre entering the SL, reenter the GP track at the Dunlop Kehre again, heading out for the NL and coming back to Start/Finish at the GP track.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
At the Dunlop-Kehre you're already in the middle of the Südschleife. It started where now the right kink in the S/F Straight is. And it rejoined where now is the Michelin-Kurve.
@happysoul1907
@happysoul1907 3 жыл бұрын
5:36 Herman releases his secret grand prix driver skills
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but actually I was carefull there because to get there I first had to drive in the opposite direction. And there are more who can do that.
@blackmoonsunshineparanorma7479
@blackmoonsunshineparanorma7479 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video😊
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@aledmb
@aledmb 3 жыл бұрын
amazing!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@DYNANiK.official
@DYNANiK.official 3 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
THanks!
@sportquattro8430
@sportquattro8430 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely Video guys
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mikeschlup5279
@mikeschlup5279 3 жыл бұрын
I was at the 76 race that lauda crashed in...James Hunt was the rain master!
@shawnharrington8307
@shawnharrington8307 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid👍
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 3 жыл бұрын
So it's still 90% there. Neat.
@YuriBruschi
@YuriBruschi 3 жыл бұрын
Bravi, complimenti Herman e Simon!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Grazie!
@mcmave
@mcmave 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I would like to visit the Nurburgring in the future (without the COVID pandemic). I've been close to the circuit, but none of my inlaws would go with me.
@sennasenna6023
@sennasenna6023 3 жыл бұрын
wow! there is WAY more left of it than ii though! i thought most of it was demolished but tuns out on the straight is!
@creepingjesus5106
@creepingjesus5106 3 жыл бұрын
Top video as always: explains a lot too about where the old Nordschliefe start loop went. I'd forgotten about that bit til I was watching a vid of the '68 GP, and I thought 'where the hell are they going...?' 😂 I'll get to the Ring one of these years, and I think I'll be exploring quite a lot.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You now know where the Südschleife is. And if you want a route description you can download my free e-book about 7 abandoned tracks you can visit legally: www.circuitsofthepast.com/7-abandoned-circuits-you-can-visit-legally/
@massimilianobelloni237
@massimilianobelloni237 3 жыл бұрын
Great drive!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@frittensindkunst2837
@frittensindkunst2837 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video Mate! I am from Germany and like Motorsport so much and for a long time, but this was also new for me. Btw, I like how Südschleife is pronounced in this video. It's well, but a little bit "sweeter" than a native speaker would do ^^
@HigherPlainGames
@HigherPlainGames 3 жыл бұрын
Just spotted this comment. I butcher so many of these words so I'll take that as a win haha (Simon)
@llucthegerman
@llucthegerman 3 жыл бұрын
Das war so cool danke
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Bitte
@freejrs
@freejrs 3 жыл бұрын
I've been really taken by the mythos of the south loop since hearing about it many years ago. Some great aura still exists around it and I'm glad you can still connect the sections up to this day. Thanks for the video! I wonder how often they used the combined gesamstreke?
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
To be honoust I don't know. But I think not much. Perhaps for long distance races like the famous 24 hours. But in the past they held even longer races on the Nürburgring. It seems reasonable to me that they used the Gesamtstrecke for this.
@freejrs
@freejrs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Would have been one hell of a lap! You often hear people claim there are 150, 170, 190 or over 200 corners etc etc! on the nordschleife. But I think the higher estimates come from when the sudschleife was still in use as well perhaps. Numbers get thrown around easily but as it stands today there certainly aren't such high numbers of turns!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
@@freejrs Those numbers of corners on the Nordschleife are way overdone. If you count every kink it's a little more than 100. As with so many things, people take over from each other without thinking. Anyway, that would be a hell of 28 km long lap :)
@freejrs
@freejrs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast yeah exactly! People love to exaggerate. I counted about 90 I reckon. But also there probably were more corners before it was reprofiled and resurfaced in the the early 70s.
@wolfgangvan-uber6515
@wolfgangvan-uber6515 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! It would be cool if you could also cover another abandoned part of the Nordschleife, the so called "Steilstrecke" near the "Karussell".
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes I know the Steilstrecke. Once I made a stop during a "Tourist Ride" on the Nordschleife at the Steilstrecke for a few pictures. Next year I hope to visit the Nürburgring again and hope I can reach the Steilstrecke by foot for some video shots. Here my article about the Steilstrecke: www.circuitsofthepast.com/steilstrecke-nurburgring/
@JURacing
@JURacing 11 сағат бұрын
great video...I live not far away from the holy ground...but I never came around to visit the Südschleife
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 2 сағат бұрын
Time to visit it. You now know where it is :)
@AmericasChoice
@AmericasChoice 3 жыл бұрын
The Sudschleife was used for international events. Brian Redman talks about racing on it in F2 and Sports Cars.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe there have been a few international events on the Südschleife. But it was intended for smaller national events, like most circuits also have a shorter version for club races.
@PaddyLCak3s
@PaddyLCak3s 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this part of the track put into a racing sim, it would be a great way to preserve what the track used to be like
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
There are some games with the Südschleife. The experts here will certanly know which games.
@thepathtowudang
@thepathtowudang 3 жыл бұрын
Even if this is never going to be used again as a race track, these roads have potential to be a special stage in a rally show event. That would be a way to use the Südschleife again.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
They already do. Parts of the Südschleife are used for the Köln-Ahrweiler Rally. Check also the comment of @endlosschleife
@thepathtowudang
@thepathtowudang 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Awesome! I'm glad to know about that!
@RS_Rowe
@RS_Rowe 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends visited here a couple of weeks ago. Some very cool history! We got plenty of snotty looks from the locals, even though we were behaving 😬
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get snotty looks for following the Südschleife?
@RS_Rowe
@RS_Rowe 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast it’s a normality when your vehicle is clad with U.K. plates. We visited a few days after the F1, all the barriers were open for us 😀
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
@@RS_Rowe So there was no need to make a detour ;)
@Skippy-id9yt
@Skippy-id9yt 3 жыл бұрын
C'mon Hermann give it some beans.........also abandoned Australian NASCAR (AUSCAR) track called thunderdome...its still here with oldsponsor signs rusting away etc , it's eerie/spooky to see...(located behind CALDER Park Raceway..
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it would be great to do an Australia Tour once. A long yourney because it's literally on the other side of the World for me.
@Whitevad
@Whitevad 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Sir! Such a great and interesting video! As the most of people here in comment section I also never heard about south part of the circuit. Good to know about this part of motorsport history, I should say) Thank you! And just a little wish to improve the quality - could you put your driving camera on the nose of the car instead of dashboard? All the dust, reflections and flecks of sunlight (on the windshield) are slightly distractive and unnecessary to observe :) Anyway, great job!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah that reflection on the windscreen is a problem. However, I don't know how I can mount the camera on the nose of the car. Maybe a GoPro, but it is already hard to get the right view from the inside of the car. Let alone when I mount it on the nose of the car.
@JohnClarkGaming
@JohnClarkGaming 3 жыл бұрын
A timed stage here would be cool.
@motelghost477
@motelghost477 Ай бұрын
We have this great track in AMS2 and I prefer it to the Nordschleife.
@Joopyter724
@Joopyter724 3 жыл бұрын
They should find a way to attach the sudschelife to the GP circuit so we can have a full loop
@northman77
@northman77 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I will just subscibe...
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Quintendejong123
@Quintendejong123 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to live there
@NONOOBZ4EVR
@NONOOBZ4EVR 3 жыл бұрын
Hermann. What an unfortunate and ironic name for a man who loves exciting classical racetracks.🤣
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's actually Herman with one n, in contrast to Mr. Tilke ;)
@StrikerHS
@StrikerHS 3 жыл бұрын
2:43 9 years after watching Cuggbrotze's video there is the same Golf and a newer Polo few meters further.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
You have an eye for detail :D
@redion8575
@redion8575 3 жыл бұрын
I actually looked it up on google earth and it seems like there is also some leftover of the northern turnaround which you can also drive along (but it’s really short of course)
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
There is now a small pits which they built to keep the Nordschleife operational sepparatet from the GP Strecke. However, the road behind the pits (where it connect to the track) looks like a remain of the old Nornkehre. But they replaced the original concrete surface by asphalt. But it's a small piece as you said. Because the new road goed downhill where the old corner conected to the Start/Finish Straight.
@Streetl3gal
@Streetl3gal 3 жыл бұрын
You can see why it was so dangerous, holes in the road, small gravel roads.. very dangerous with a F1 car! Love you Mazda Erwin!!
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Who's Erwin?
@Streetl3gal
@Streetl3gal 3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast apparently the guy who drives the car in the video clip, but I guess I heard that wrong
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
@@Streetl3gal The name is Herman ;)
@joeybacker8429
@joeybacker8429 3 жыл бұрын
Back then it was in better shape! And when i got that right, the F1 Cars drove on Nordschleife and not Südschleife.
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeybacker8429 That's right and it has been told in the video ;)
@happysoul1907
@happysoul1907 3 жыл бұрын
I hope my schedule will be back to normal which is why I've missed so many (many apologies Herman)
@happysoul1907
@happysoul1907 3 жыл бұрын
I have been very busy these last few weeks so I have missed out on most of the things that have happened
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
No worries. You can now watch all my new videos during the weekend ;)
@happysoul1907
@happysoul1907 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a COTP binge watch
@our_jeff
@our_jeff 3 жыл бұрын
Only just clicked that you're Simon Smith from GPVWC ❤️
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast 3 жыл бұрын
Simon Smith does the voiceover for my videos.
@HigherPlainGames
@HigherPlainGames 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott. Yep it's me!
@antonioascari3294
@antonioascari3294 3 жыл бұрын
incrivel
@syahminorizan8064
@syahminorizan8064 Жыл бұрын
The Sudschleife was a great track. A shame it was abandoned for years. I wonder if they are gonna bring it back?
@Circuitsofthepast
@Circuitsofthepast Жыл бұрын
They will never bring it back. As you could see in the video, what was left is now public road, entry to the parking and a part left abandoned. The rest was demolished for the current Grand Prix track.
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