I think it was Perrin talking to Rand early in book 4 just before they all leave the Stone. But Perrin said something along the lines of “Rand be careful around Egwene, she has left Emonds Field further behind more than any of us and regrets it less” That may just sum up Egwene’s journey as much as anything else.

>She bonds Gawyn, and marries him shortly thereafter. To _everyones_ delight. The best giggle I've had all day, thanks Naebs!

I am really glad that Egwene got to have her own arc and wasn't just the love interest she was set up to be in the first book. Her relationship with Gawyn was incredibly random, and felt like it was only thrown in, because Jordan was obsessed with giving everyone and their cat a romantic subplot. In general most of the issues I had with Egwene were more the result of issues I have with Jordan's writing style in general than with Egwene specifically (i.e. off page character development, lack of set up for personality traits or skills, being an idiot to stall the plot, etc). Her rise to power was incredibly satisfying to read, especially once she was captured by the White Tower, because Jordan put the effort into showing us how Egwene used her intelligence, creativity, and shear strength of will to achieve her goals, rather than the Wheel just plopping out a highly unlikely outcome because the plot demanded it. We got to see her struggles and character development in real time, rather than in an offhand flashback.

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I feel like claiming Egwene is disingenuous, we see her learn from several different tutors to learn the skills she does. The Seachan would have pushed her as hard as they could just shy of ruining her, thus explaining her rise in the One Power. The Aiel train her in the world of dreams and though she is significantly better than the other Aes Sedia the WO's out class her. Her political strategies come from both Nynaeve and Sanche. She is young but was forced to have experiences that would be uncommon for her predecessors. In that situation her options were to die or grow.

Egwene al'Vere will go down in Aes Sedai and Tower history as the Warrior Amyrlin Seat.

I started reading these books so long ago. I always felt like Egwene was an example of someone so singularly focused, almost to the point of obsessed. She seemed to have been focused on becoming a wisdom and then once she found out she could be Aes Sedai that’s all to she focused on. I agree the dalliance w/ Gawyn seemed uncharacteristic of her, but maybe it could be written off as a young girl w/ fantasies of marrying a prince, as it was said that she loved to read stories of women out smarting men and tales of adventure AND romance. But, other than that she had no homesickness; as displayed by Rand, Perrin, Mat and Nynaeve, no attachment to material things or wealth. You could almost say she became kind of power hungry. That combined w/ her obsession (and Suian’s round the clock tutoring) kind of made her the perfect Amyrlin for the last battle.

Always liked Egwene's story ark. Overall, she's one of my favorites. Well done analysis. You really know your stuff.

I'm on my second read of the series and I'm so happy that I can watch these kind of videos now! Love your channel! Keep up the great content.

egwene is my favorite wheel of time character. she can be frustrating for sure, but every character in the wheel of time is frustrating at times. She's kinda the embodiment of the best things about Aes sedai while still being a believable character.

Egwene is a person who, by the end of her arc, I wouldn't want to be friends with. She's kind of manipulative and toxic. But her character is written so well, I love her. She's such a strong person, which makes up for her flaws imo

Unpopular opinion. I've read these twice and Egwene is the my favorite after each one, even if the Gawyn thing isn't great

The Egwene / M'Hale fight is my absolute favorite scene in the whole series.

I agree that Egwenne and Gawynn were a terrible relationship, but that is what makes it feel real for me. Who hasn't been madly infatuated with a person that was horrible for them

Great breakdown here and I think you do get to the heart of why Egwene is a divisive character. One thing I think should be mentioned is that Egwene is both a Dreamwalker (able to access T'A'R) and a Dreamer (has dreams that are symbolic Foretellings). These are two separate and distinct Talents, and I don't think the books and most analyses of Egwene really get this distinction right. Her Dreaming talent doesn't take place in T'A'R, it takes place in her normal dreams. It's a rare combination and really sets her apart.

Egwene is my favorite character

I love her because she is strong on the inside. She does not give in to beatings, she is smart and manipulates the hall cunningly, and she was a Ghandy in books 11 and 12.

Her death is epic. I reread it all the time. One of the greatest moments in the final battle.

Moraine Egwene Dumbledore The hardest I’ve ever been hit by a fictional persons death. All three of those affected me to a point where my wife started asking what’s got me down. Egwene was a character I didn’t even like until she refused to leave the white tower despite the abuse and humiliation she was dealing with.

I love the great moments where she is away from any position of real power. This includes when she is raised to Amyrlin in the rebel camp because she is considered a puppet. These are the moments where she shines and really shows the strength of will and character. Whenever she is the underdog, she is really admirable. However, as soon as she feels she is better/more powerful than someone, she becomes unlikable in my eyes. Within a couple of months, she is "fully of the tower" and throughout the story she doesn't even seem to think about her family other than she couldn't possibly go see them, even when she can travel instantly. I think she thinks "that life is behind me" or some such at one point. People and even friends who have proven their worth and honor are ground into the dirt, even when she knows she is in the wrong, just so she can be "right". I can understand that she has to cement her position to them and really convince them that she is truly in a position to be respected, but I seem to recall her going beyond that quite a few times. One thing that I noticed is that when she does not have power, she seems convinced that many things that the Aes sedai are doing and many of their traditions are outdated and even wrong, but that changes as she does gain power, where she seems to stick her roots in these old outdated traditions and that kings and other races should just bow... because... reasons. Not just one time, but in waves as it ebbs and flows in the story. I don't fault her for not immediately trusting zen Rand when he visits her, because he has done a lot of bad stuff and has been acting really crazy at points and he was equally as stubborn in that meeting, but after he left, she doesn't seem to even consider if he is right and that maybe the cage needs to be rebuilt from the bottom up. By all means, prepare for the worst, but give it some serious consideration and ask around... I am sure that other scholars than the one Rand used (his name escapes me) could come up with the same answer. She has whole groups dedicated to such studies. Okay... rant over. Not sure if it is fair, because I could gush about her awesome story arcs for days, while this little comment essentially describes the reason why I don't like her personality. I think in the end it comes down to that these traits seem to not grow better throughout the story and some of them get worse.

But did she deftly maneuver the sitters to declare war on Elaida though?

I agree with you that Egwene is probably a better war time Amyrlin than a peace time Amyrlin. Despite the Dragon's Peace, the Tower would be in a Cold War mentality with the Seanchan. The tower, and certainly Egwene, would not feel the world is at peace with the Seanchan in control of the southern portion of the continent and parts of the west portion. With respect to the need to maintain a certain level of vigilance regarding the Seanchan, i think Egwene would have been an effective Amrylin post Last Battle. She also relates well to non Tower, non-Seanchan channelers. Lastly, I think because of her age, she would have had to resign as Amyrlin after about 75 years. I think she would have become too ineffective if she were on control any longer. I could see her retiring to the Aiel Waste and become a Wise One.

Thank you for this great analysis of Egwene! She has always been my favorite character in The Wheel of Time. She has her flaws, but everyone has flaws. She is very stubborn and I will admit that she´s not always nice to her friends, but she loves them, despite her words. When it comes to her young age and her rise to a powerful position, I´m surprised to hear that people questions that. I mean no one questions Rand´s Mat´s or Perrin´s way to reach their respective powers and abilities. They are not so much older than her. She gets help during her way and I feel she earns it with blood, sweat and tears. Egwene is a wonderful character and I think she´s outstanding from the other heroes in WOT. I just hope that Rafe and his crew will build up the relationship between Egwene and Gawyn, so we will see what she sees in that guy. I never really understood why she fell in love with him. I can´t wait to see Madeleine Madden bring Egwene to life on screen. I think she will be perfect as Egwene :-)

Egwene most prominent character trait is hypocrisy

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I love who Egwene became after training with the Wise Ones. Even though she is fully invested in becoming Aes Sedai, she sees that the tower needs to change and the way Aes Sedai act is extremely obnoxious to her (like it is for us!) BUT I think Nyneave is even more aware of and actually more correct about the Aes Sedai. But the practical, pragmatic Egwene I see I can't imagine putting up with Gawyn's idiotic, impetuous ways. She expresses a lot of irritation with his behavior in the tower, but clearly it wasn't a big of a turn off for her as I feel is realistic.

Great video! Always love how organized you videos are...lol. And I am with you on her ability to lead during peacetime should she have lived.

I agree with audiobooks. I can’t reread 13000 pages so I got the audiobooks and for this series at least I really enjoy it. I listen to it while driving/ cooking, etc…. I do not have a lot of down time anymore to read. That and had cataract surgery recently and it’s hard to squint and I’m a vampire in the sun. That’s right I’m old like the age Rand Al’Thor would be right about now. I was about 21 when I first read TWOT back in the early 1990’s. Rand probably be a little bit heavier, one of his wives probably tried to kill him by now …(Avhienda). And he’s probably running to a dermatologist to keep an eye on a few facial spots…just in case you need a more accurate epilogue description on what Rand is up to now.

Unpopular opinion: I think Egwene is one of the best fictional protagonists ever written. Up there with Paul Atriedes, and Luke Skywalker. When I read her say, “I have Toh” I got goosebumps. Love that character and I wish she had left an heir to live on after her.

Great job. I havent read the books and love spoilers. Thanks now im going to check out other main character analysis

Love Egwenne! Even though she is super frustrating sometimes. I was surprised to see Perrin has a higher word count than Mat, I guess being out of an entire book hurts

Never had any strong feelings of like or dislike towards Egwene lol. It's kinda funny seeing the widespread hate.

Holy crap…I’d call this a character summary rather than an analysis, but it was a really good summary. Summarizing the arc of a character that stretches over 14 books is no easy task.

Egwene is the most badass Aes Sedai in the series.

Egwyne goes on to become an AS politician which an Amyrlin must be. Even after the schism heal and revelation of BA manipulations, the Hall of Tower still plays politics so to lead them one must also be that The only thing I found disappointing about her is that her view of Rand becomes more of that of a typical AS where she believes that he is wrong and needs guidance whereas that of Nynaeve evolves to understand him

Egwene's best quality? She loves Bela!

I love Egwene, and I was a little bit shocked at all the comments calling her toxic etc. Although after considering I do realize these comments also have merit because she WAS a know-it-all and condescending. Weird link maybe but she reminds me of Jane Austens Emma - meaning Egwene would have benefited more from a love interest or opposite character that reminds her of humanity & humility as well, like Emma has mr Knightley, someone who is as intelligent as she is and challenges her on some of her more stubborn beliefs. Gawyn dies nothing except fawn after her, which is really a shame for the relationship

Nice red spoilers the best spoilers! love these character reviews!

What a true Queen.

Man, I'm sitting here working on my notes for my Egwene video and I see this pop up in my alerts... Damnit Nebbles!

I don't hate Egwene but she is not among my top five either, though she does have plenty of badass moments I agree. I hold to the greatest as sadly her last one holding the world together. I never wanted her to die but Min's viewings always come true. Once again I feel that Nynaeve, in telling that she will help the people before the White Tower has become a TRUE Aes Sedai, a true servant of all. I think the channelers of the Tower lost sight of that at some point. Oh well.

My first read through the series Egwene was one of my favorite characters, subsequent reads her being a something of a contrary brat before learning from the Wise Ones was more noticeable to me. @2:20 breakbone fever wasn't fatal, Egwene would have been fine, it would have just been one or two days before Egwene was better. Eye of the World pages 321-322 is where Moiraine and Nynaeve talk about Nynaeve healing Egwene.

I think she is a great character, who accomplish her potential thanks to her skills, her unique training and a wonderful mentor. And in my opinion she is an example of the tendency in the series from the "experienced" peaple who understimate the younger person only becouse of that, and then they are often defeated. Satrting with the Forsaken to Elaida, to the white tower council etc etc

She was my favorite character in my first read through, but each time I re-read I disliked her (as a person) more and more. Now I just hate her lol, but she is a powerful, and well written character

Egwene sections are my favorites in the series, even over Matt. The white tower mending and defense are just too bad ass.

"COME GET THIS WEAVE" -Egwene to M'Hael, probably

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Totally unrelated, but how funny will it be if DUNE ends up coming out RIGHT as we start meeting the Aiel?

I love Egwene's arc, character, and her chapters are some of my favorite. She has clear goals and is constantly working torwards them and it's rewarding seeing her progress. I think Gawyn could have been am endearing character if he had held onto more of his youthful idealogy and we would all have been rooting for him and Egwene to be together. One of the very few failings of the series for myself.

I liked Egwene my first read through, was annoyed by her my second read through, but I've liked her again since my third read through

Love Egwene- i dont love manipulation but understand and marvel at when someone is able to do it for the RIGHT reasons- her laughing through spankings then defending everyone with her hands figuratively tied is awesome to read- her inner monologue near her end, understanding the bigger picture and sacrificing herself in the way she did Rocks harder than almost any other ending I’ve read. - makes up for her choosing a frivolous immature baby of a man- you need to have one guilty pleasure at least right?

Thank you.

not gonna lie i dont understand why youd be upset with your best friend and sister hooking up and or dating. its 2 people making their own choice lol. if anything its someone you know and trust so your best friend would probably be your highest recommendation. lol

Good stuff, and yes Recappa’s stuff is awesome!! I do have to disagree with you on egwene being only a wartime Amyrlin. She was already orchestrating big things between the aiel, and the seafolk also her poning of tuon when they met would be a great thing to come back to, as well her relationship with the dragon reborn would mean that she would have a great platform to start relations with the black tower, and her reunification of the tower and ground work with the different ajahs would mean she would be well set up to lead them into the new age, but annyywaayyys that’s my take. Love the video.

Nae’Blis you are a gentleman and a scholar THANK YOU! Loved this video. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate the shout out thank you for being amazing!

How is she polarizing? Egwene is awesome! Attend you all. She comes and she comes...

Egwene is fascinating. I feel like she is the epitome of the gender role reversals RJ set up in his world. I’ve long held that women in the WOT have taken on most of the flaws men have in our real world. This is a consequence of the flip in the gender power dynamic that the taint on saidin has created. Women are in most of the positions of power in the world, the default gender of authority. I think Egwene catches a lot of flack because we the readers view her with our Earthen lens of harshness. Egwene is the Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren of the WOT. She’s smart and gets shit done, but there’s just something untrustworthy about her. She’s apparently too cold and calculating, valuing her relationships too little, exhibiting too much greed for knowledge and power. Yes, Egwene is dismissive of Rand and pretty much every other man in the world. She womansplains stuff all the time. She is hardworking and soaks up knowledge whenever she can, but she is often inflexible in the surety of her knowledge. These are traits that we more readily excuse in our male leaders in our world. It’s jarring to see a woman take on these traits. A fascinating exercise would be to imagine how we would view her if she were a dude. What if Egwin is a 16-year-old boy in the Two Rivers, destined to marry Randi, a girl about his age, and to train to be the town healer. But Egwin finds out Randi and some other friends are leaving town, and he tags along. Soon after, the Aes Sedai Merlin tells him he is able to channel saidin, and Egwin starts to train a little under Merlin’s tutelage. His ex-fiancee, Randi, mad that he’s seemingly destined to go to the Black Tower where all the Aes Sedai are, grows jealous and calls him out for seemingly wanting to abandon her and the Two Rivers. But Egwin knows he’s destined for bigger things. On their travels, Egwin and Pearl are separated from the group. Egwin, a 16-year-old boy full of testosterone, flirts a little with a beautiful Tinker girl named Aram, but Pearl points out that Egwin is to be betrothed to Randi. Later, Egwin finds out Randi is able to channel tainted saidar, and she is destined to go mad like all female channelers. Worse, Randi is the Dragon Reborn, the woman who will save and destroy the world. Despite this, he keeps Randi’s secret from her friends Pearl and Mattie. Egwin goes on to the Black Tower to train to be an Aes Sedai, but he is tricked into a foolish quest by the Black Ajah Aes Sedai Lindin, and he is imprisoned by the Seanchan. Enslaved by the a’dam, he learns the meaning of pain and suffers PTSD. He is rescued by his friends Nyne and Eli. Later, back in the Black Tower, Egwin, Nyne, and Eli are sent off on a quest to hunt down the Black Ajah. They hire a local thief catcher in Tear, a woman named Julia, but Julia is Compulsed by Lindin, and she leads the three of them into a trap. While imprisoned, Egwin manages to use his talent as a Dream Walker to almost free the three of them from their trap, but he requires a little help from Mattie. Mattie expects effusive praise, but Egwin knows he did most of the heavy lifting himself, and he stubbornly refuses to acknowledge Mattie’s role. Egwin realizes by now he’s no longer in love with Randi, and he tells her this gently, and he sets up Randi with Eli, because Eli actually is falling in love with her. When Randi leaves the Stone and heads for the Waste, Egwin follows. He meets Aiel Channelers and, hungry for new knowledge, inserts himself under their tutelage. These Wise Ones assume he is a fully trained Aes Sedai, and Egwin does nothing to disavow them of this. Etc. etc.

And as much as I can't stand her anymore she is no Mary Sue. She was raised by two canny politicians. She was trained by wise ones and Aes'sedai as well as being forced by the Seanchan. Yes she was great at everything but she worked hard for it.

Egwene is a true Queen and the Wheel spun her out, because she was needed. No Mary Sue here.

I would love to hear more about her Weave creating Crystals, The Flame of Tar Valon!

Naebs, I am afraid you are mistaken about Egwene’s breakbone fever. When Nynaeve tells about it in chapter 21 of EotW, she said that she “didn’t know that the Wisdom had everything in hand” and that Mistress Barran had told her that “the fever would break in another day, two at the most.” Nynaeve only believed that the Wisdom couldn’t save Egwene.

Egwene is in my top 3 characters. I love her so much. She is tied with Moiraine and Mat for me.

I always thought that the Emond's Fielders, and Faile were pretty annoying because they're so stubborn and grouchy... She was MADE for Gawyn! LOL

In my opinion she is as close to tav'eren as a character can be without actually being designated as tav'eren. I think it would have been better if Robert Jordan had made her a tav'eren

I’m not as down on her by the end as everyone else by the end. She has an important job. One that arguably dictates that she has to control or be controlled. She can’t afford some of the frivolity others engage in. She can’t falter for even a second. Toxic this. Manipulative that. I don’t think she has much choice. I don’t think it’s wrong for her to do that. That said she is written in that obnoxious strong female way. Far to much contempt for “men” and arrogance with the mass of a Neutron Star.

I always liked Egwene a lot but she somehow never made it into my top 3 even though she grew on me more and more after each reread. Maybe her know it all attitude or wanting to learn faster and faster is the deal. I loved her fight with the Seanchan and her sacrifice in the end (she owned it). Top 5 for sure imo and yes, Gawyn and her was off and never meant to be.

Did you see Robert Jordan's notes that at one point he was going to have Egwene pregnant? I would have loved seeing her have her Joya 😞

Also, it's also worth noting that with her skill in Earth and using Voras Wand she exhibited ferrokinesis.

Honestly how many times are you going to advertise?

Please please please do a deep dive on Egwene’s Dream fortelling

To me Egwene is a hard character to discuss, because I personally dislike her but she has really cool moments at least on paper, yet to me most of her big moments fall flat, like she would have this glorious political maneuver that I should love but I just feel everyone else was dumbed down for it, the Aes Sedai all act as idiots around her for some reason! there is also a lot of telling not showing, like Siuan will sing her praises to no end it's just annoying...and I know other characters have that issue too, but it doesn't fall flat the way it does with Egwene. I think some of it has to do with the way other characters react to her, like for Nyneave everyone calls her out on her anger, the boys pay for their mistakes dearly. But Wgwene doesn't get called out or pay for her mistakes. She does get some torture true, but it's never for her mistakes, it's always this unfair situation were some bad guys torture her, It annoys me that the wise ones continue to treat her as this honorary Aiel because she did some bad things for months but she accepted a beating so it's all good, I'm sorry that falls flat for me because it never works like this in the real world! I know the Aiel customs means they never talk about a Toh after it's been met but that kind of trust can't be just fixed! come on! So I suppose what I'm trying to say is that I dislike Egwene but don't always feel like debating it, because she does have a good arc and she does serve a purpose in the story, I just never buy it, but all powers to those who do! and I do hope the TV show can get me more on board with the character.

Hmmm theoretical question struck me during your recap. If a compulsion were placed on Mat & he put his foxhead on after the fact... Would the weaves melt away from his mind **harmlessly?** I imagine it'd be much like Nynaeve's healing, but would it be done in a perfect magical way that didn't damage the brain? Or is the brain already damaged by the weave, & the compulsion fills the gaps? 🤔 Something else? 🤷

I loved her on my first read-through. On rereads I liked her less because I loved Nynaeve and her childish lashing out in the early books at her former mentor was really grating. Other than that or her love interest I still really enjoy her arc thorough the series

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Im here because of the show but pretty get the grasp of the story through book fans. But I question that last argument about her abilities to accomplish so much was a questionthat answered itself. I thought the whole point of being ta'veren is that you are supposed experience legendary obstacles, accomplish great feats and blessed with great power beyond the normal pattern in the wheel? To question that is like not understanding the purpose of a ta'veren. Am I confused? Also, I think in many ways her story exemplifies her as a great weaver but also very strategically powerful one.

Egwene is best as a wartime Amyrlyn because she is a person who needs someone to fight. She is at her strongest when in contention with others. She's a warrior at heart, and this would not be good in peacetime. It makes her the ideal Amyrlyn during the Last Battle.

The Wise Ones should have just kept beating her. She deserved worse than she got.

Nice Recappa plug! Def the Recappameter is the best ranking system,. Move over, Naebs!!! LMAO

Egwene is my favorite character She was the only one who accepted her fate while the others were disoriented for a long time. She was never afraid of being an Aes Sedai, endured her captivity with the Seanchan, trained with the Aiel, became a dreamer, became an Amyrlin who was able to unify the White Tower, endured horrific beatings, implemented radical changes in form. to think of many Aes Sedai, headstrong women hundreds of years old. She was incredible and the only thing that weighs on me at the end is her death. Cadsuane represents the past of the Aes Sedai, but Egwene should have been the one to guide all channeling women to a better future.

Great synopsis as usual. I dont believe Egwene is a Mary Sue except for the proclamation by Moraine at the beginning of the story that Egwene could be Amrylin. Egwene has great moments and I admire her strength of character. She suffers from RJ 's flaw of spawning too many characters. Too many critical strengths are given to her because RJ tends to make Emmons Field the modern Age of Legends. As a woman she is sometimes insufferable, especially the way she treats Rand, Mat and Perrin.

Great video as always. But her being a wartime leader rather than a peace time leader is the part I've been harping about since WoT ended. 10000% agree Edit: Egwene is an interesting character, but probably the biggest Mary Sue. But RJ did an excellent job establishing the way the Pattern works in tumultuous times so it landed well for me.

I like egwene very much. I understand why people hates her a lot but still, she is one of my favorites, especially last books.

There could be a very strong argument for her being a Ta’veren, her effect on things around her, seems nearly as strong as Mat and Perrins

Where is that colored map from that you showed when you talked about them going to Tear?! I need that in my life lol

I like Egwene's arc purely because it's a good example of how you can be someone who is on the side of Good yet still objectively be a terrible person. She's petty, manipulative, hungry for power, prone to violence as a first reaction, downplays the abilities and actions of others, will break oaths and lie through her teeth if it gives her more power, lacks even an ounce of self awareness, and has whole host of other flaws that would put her firmly more in line with the Forsaken, but in spite of all that she never once considers serving the Dark. It's really neat, even if i absolutely can't stand her as a character

Freshly rescued by Thom, Mat and Noal aka Jain freaking Farstrider!!!!! You tell him Jain Fastrider died clean!!

My favorite Egwene scenes are her confrontation with Elaida at the second dinner; where she tells the Salidar Tower about the Black Ajah; where she maneuvers the Hall of Tower into giving her sole authority to deal with Rand; her final battle with Mesaana; her final sacrifice during the Last Battle; and her battling the Seanchan

Nynaeve says explaining healing Egwene "I was young, and I didn't know the wisdom had everything well in hand... I thought I was going to have to watch her die" so even though young Nynaeve thought she would surely die, no, Egwene was not going to die based on what Nynaeve says in the Eotw, because it was "well in hand", but minor point i guess.

It felt like to me that maybe because her best friend (Elayne) wanted her to hook up with her brother instead of her hooking up with her half brother Galad. That might have planted a seed especially since he was a warder (or Youngling…🤮) Which her future boyfriend would have to be.

Egwene is a good character but I struggle to enjoy her chapters because she is just a not nice person. Probably the most hateable character on the side of the light.

21:53 egwene is stronger channeler than nynaeve?

I've wondered how it is that different people like or dislike different characters while others have the opposite opinions. I think this reflects more on our own perspectives and less on what the characters are like. Egwene certainly has both some of the worst and best moments in the books, but all of the Emonds field 5 had both seriously idiotic and superbly brilliant moments through the series. By the time I finish another re-read, I may have a permanent hand print on my forehead.

Egwene is grand until chapter 43 tgs where she nosedives. She lacks self awareness. She is arrogant. She learns no lessons. She is strategically obtuse. She pisses and moans about suian and Co rescuing her. She thinks only about herself and what she believes to be right. Rand manipulates her into gathering the royalty to Merillor. Her death wasn't heroic it was selfish suicide and as a reader gawyns death and siuans deaths hit me harder.

My favorite character. That show better do her damn well. I like her relationship with Gawyn simply because it always felt like RJ saying “even someone who seems like she has it together can’t control who they are attracted to, even if it’s bad for them.” Gawyn is basically one of the ways to show she is fallible and not perfect. Most of the rest of her “too good” moments are because she constantly has people there to teach her faster than anyone normally can go.

LOL! There's no way Gawyn is worse than Galad!

A key point you forgot in the summary in Egwene's actions is her discovering that Elaida is Amyrlin Seat in world of Dreams and her subsequent discussion with Moiraine. Elaida being Amyrlin Seat and Egwene's trying to find the faction opposing her is a crucial part of how Egwene actions on why she does the next two books. I think her meeting with Moiraine is important because it is the first time since she became a novice that any sister treated her as an equal rather than an accepted or a novice

2:22 Don't you mean a non-fatal illness?

I was upset when someone said that the love affair in the two rivers was not portrayed very well In the books Egwene Al'Vere was never to marry Ran Egwene Al'Vere was to be a wise woman and as such, she would move away and never marry I also hird that one of the writers was saying that the village in two rivers was not like the villages of medal Europe The problem is that the villages of two rivers are like the medal Europe villages and without birth control, you would not have a way to stop babby being born and so you would have sex only in marriage

I'm disappointed that you did not discuss Egwaine's relationship with Rand throughout the series.

I'm on my second read through and I'm finding her real irritating. Whenever I'm reading her sections, I find myself counting pages until I can get back to the store lines with Rand/Perrin/Mat.