YEAH FR 😭 He got jealous that scara fits in while being different and being himself, meanwhile dottore is faking it all

Taking into Dottore's backstory, which was mentioned in the Pale Flame Artifacts, plus the secret notes/world quests/books which hinted his initial identity as Zandik, its understandable regarding the feelings of jealousy.

@@vanessachowjiaying4423 I doubt Dottore feels jealous of "having friends" and he only cares about fitting in to the extend of making persuing his own interest more convenient. (At least based on what we know so far, future info can ofc change.) The difference between him and Scara is that Scara was BORN (/created) differently, then got abandoned by his mother for something he had no control over, then tried his best to fit in because he genuinely wanted friends/family, people to connect with. Meanwhile Dottore's family/living situation must have been good enough that he could enroll into the Akademiya (for example it's almost impossible if you're born poor or in the desert nowadays, and a few hundred years ago they were probably even more discriminatory). He was described as handsome, smart and a great conversationalist, and was able to quickly befriend people even if they had a negative first impression of him. He didn't have any problem fitting in besides his very morally questionable opinions (something you aren't born with and have control over). He was reprimanded multiple times and didn't change his behavior and only cared about whether he got expelled or not because studying and experimenting and all that stuff is easier to do at the Akademiya with funding than on your own. Evidently he didn't care about whether others liked him unless it benefitted his goals. We don't know why exactly he was expelled but at the VERY LEAST he literally murdered an other student. Sooo... I think it's fair to say he ocastrated himself. In short: Scara thought his friends betrayed him, Dottore strangled his "friends". I'd argue one is a monster in sheeps clothing or in this case fox fur, the other is just born different. (Not talking about everything he did after joining the Fatui since the fairly tale is about his past only up to that point).

@@Mercyfalls I think, at the very least, Dottore cared about fitting in more than just the practical utility being accepted gave him. There was too much venom and bitterness when he said he didn't want to be rejected by the Akademiya yet again. I don't think he'll be a tragic figure like Scaramouche, but he might be a pitiable one. From how the story framed it, I see it as less Dotore being jealous of Scaramouche obtaining friends, and more bitterness about the fact that he has to put up so many facades and lies to hide his ugliness and inhuman perspective, yet Scaramouche, being completely inhuman and completely open about it, is still accepted without a single hesitation.

@@Moonlight-fh7yo now Scaramouche parallel with so many characters, like nahida and Dottore and the traveler

That must have felt so gruesome to Scara, both when he first found out and when he knew whoes it was

Nahida, watching the actual events go down in Irminsul: Damn. No need for a metaphor or analogy in this case.

​@Subhadra Mahanta Actually, Dottore told him the heart came from a servant Niwa murdered before he fled. It wasn't until the Archon quest did Scaramouche learned of Dottore's deception.

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Problem is that it's buried under layers of Fiction based on real events. Heck, this tale Nahida made only refers to the Fatui and such because we know the actual events it was based on. If this was in a vacuum, what else is it supposed to represent?

That's why Venti became a bard as well, since the best way to preserve a memory is through story telling even if it seems "fictional" to the audience

The Fischls novels are actually very lore heavy

I better start reading the books I collected!

@@arnowisp6244 well but people will only remember it as "fiction" n as long as no mention of specific name it won't be erased, nahida is incarnation of irminsul itself, as what we see on rukkhadevata's case, only she or higher rank being can bypass herself at this moment.

The moon is the All of the God including Raiden Shogun as his creator

@John Dukal the explanation is is that dottore killed all of scaramouches friends

The moon is divinity and gods. Not sure about the monster one.

@@phosphophyIIite_ spoiler alert

@John Dukal because as he say it before . He presented himself as a monster or a demon

Probably for the abyss twin

Definitely the Tsaritsa and the other six Archons.

I wonder why?

@@monadolifesaver5613 You just blew my mind.

@@kumonoameai not a clue how. Everyone comes to the conclusion eventually.

He is a kitten when he's not using his claws a lot.

I think Nahida saw it or knew a lot about Dottore before that. You can read what I'm about to mention in the Fatui Artifacts Set when you not want to read or know anything about it, it may be a spoiler!!! There it is mentioned that since he was a child, Dottore has been called a monster and a madman and was banished from his hometown with clubs and pitchforks. He then goes to the academy, but he wasn't treated any differently there either and after all Pierro found him. I would also like to mention that people may called him a monster because he had a dream from a young age to give normal people the power of a god. Why or if he had this dream as a child is still unclear I think. Anyway after this Fairy Tale I think Dottore believed at some point that he is a monster and he must act like one but that he still has feelings of guilt etc like a human being? I also think Dottore was kind of jealous of Scaramouche too because he's a puppet and they still treated him like a human, but he's basically always been on the run and he never had anyone in his entire life? Also something else why I believe that Nahida knew more about Dottore before she read his mind is, because she asked him if he could managed to make peace with himself and i found it weird that Dottore didn't answer this question and just changed the subject. Sorry, I just love how well written Dottore's character is. He seems to have a really complex story, which is what really draws me in... :(

@@CottonCandy00 I don't think he believes he: "has to act like one"? Or at least... I hope not. I'm kind if tired of the whole "if people see me as a monster, I might as well be one" trope at this point. And I just want Dottore's story to genuinely tell an interesting, unique story about how monsters like him are made, instead of the same thing I've seen already.

@@CottonCandy00 My concern is how the start of the fairytale can be read: For one part, I can understand it as Dottore managing to get into Tatarasuna and join its community, he pitied them because they couldn't understand that his despise, under a magnifying glass, was absolutely dooming them from the start. OR if we are getting a bit of Dottore's background after being chased out of Sumeru- because they seem a bit unique: a father fox welcoming Dottore, a mother fox seemingly glad to see him, and a wide-eyed young fox staring at him. We don't know much about Tatarasuna, but Dottore as Escher (if I'm remembering correctly) never mentioned a family, just that the engineers of Inazuma welcomed him when he mentioned he came from Fountain to help him. So...why a family of foxes? I could understand his pity if it was a condescending one, but in the story Dottomon looks legitly upset that the family can't see him for what he is/can't understand him. I can't understand it for the Tatarasuna plot BUT I can understand it as Nahida explaining Dottore's sudden decision to actively antagonize Scaramouche: here is Dottore, who was a normal human yet albeit one smarter than the rest, who knew nothing but hostility and persecution all of his life for wanting to make Gods, seeing a puppet from none other the Raiden Shogun being completely accepted in their community despise his highly inhuman nature just because he can pretend better than him. Remember, when he speaks to Niwa, he's relishing in the suffering it's going to cause Scaramouche and how no one will be able to stop him once Niwa's gone and mocks him for daring to call Scaramouche a human and even compares himself to a demon. Like, Dottore made everything about Scaramouche suddenly a very personal matter when his mission was just to make an opening for the Fatui in Inazuma because he could have swayed him via manipulation- but instead, he made him suffer for more years until Pierro decided to let him join the Fatui. And even then, both Dottore and Signora are very keen on calling Scaramouche a puppet in a very demeaning manner, not just because that's what he is, as if he's lower than them.

@@CottonCandy00 so basically megamind ..?

@@katzcat8181 For Lady Ashes it felt different. Hers felt more like a warning about Dottore albeit said meanly and the abuse he just takes. Similar to Scaramouche warning to her about her arrogance being her downfall in the same scene. I felt like they were warning each other in their own way.

both have heartbreaking backstory

and both dealt with truama. Very cool

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and a fluffy dottore plushie too😭 he looks so huggable here

There's a shop called "plush shop" that makes them and others!

I got mine at lazada it's so adorable and soft wtf 😭😭

That's a nice theory and I would like your version! (And who knows, with there being so many different segments who could have different personalities then theoretically nothing is "out of character" for Dottore until we know more) But I'm afraid that based on what we know so far, Dottore didn't care about people being nice to him or treating him as "one of their own" and that wouldn't have emotionally touched him at all. People liked him at the Akademiya yet he was literally murdering girls who wanted to be his friend/date long before he ever joined the Fatui. Sure, it irked him that people at the Akademiya saw him as a madman and didn't agree with his views... but I'd say he only has himself to blame. I mean..... if one's true self means "doesn't care about morals, ethics, feelings, health or lives of others" it's unsurprising that others won't accept them. He can't murder people if he feels like it and experiment on children and then expect others to not mind.

Dottore playable confirmed

@@Mercyfalls he still care about people being nice to him remember at the archon quest he said he was disappointed that no one cared about his academic experiments

@@Mercyfalls Another interesting fact, this should be the original dottore. Go check out wanderer’s story, it explains that dottore used scaramouche’s blueprint to able to establish making his own segments after scaramouche joined the fatui. at this point scaramouche have yet to join the fatui, this this should be the original dottore.

since all Dottore's clones have something different in some aspect, its not wrong to assume that at least one would achieve empathy eventually. who knows maybe we get to meet a Rogue Dottore Clone who gets to be playable.

I completely forgot what that was, can you share what you know about it

Yeah, tell us what it's about. I don't know much at all.

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Taking into account the world quests/secret notes/artifacts lores, its implied that Dottore was originally Zandik, like how the Harbringers have true names before taking on Harbringer codenames. Based on Zandik's backstory, there's a hint that Dottore had felt inner rage/anger of being an outcast, thus the jealousy.

Maybe she was able to see his younger self's memories and therefore found a small part of him that could be pitied? Dottore mentioned he pulls segments of himself from different time periods, so maybe she saw the one segment he's never brought to life; the one still full of hope and happiness before becoming lonely and monstrous.

since all Dottore's clones have something different in some aspect, its not wrong to assume that at least one would develope empathy or some kind of regret through his actions. who knows maybe we get to meet a Rogue Dottore Clone who gets to be playable.

@@nunocampea2395 it might be the youngest if that's ever gonna happen, just bc hyv somehow made him the last to speak and was the only one that spoke very clearly compared to the other clones who kind of just talked over each other

@@niffleraku wasnt the last to speak one with a very evil madman tone? but yeah it also sounds kind of young. but yeah i feel like that one is gonna be inportant

And he tried to burn the doll to see if a heart appears, but it didnt. Everytime his lore is more sad

@@VerdanaMedina where did you hear or find this info?

but there are 7 archons?

Maybe... Since the traveler is gender dependent on the player... It's actually about the Tsaritsa?

@@peepostaringintoyoursoul3699 The Dendro Archon had to stay with Irminsul, so perhaps the Khaenre'ah Cataclysm was the "Abyss Twin and the Six Archons".

I think its not about the gender , cause its a fairy tail. Yes it is , only 6 archons that appear in Khaenriah. The Dendro one have more important task

Ey, this mystery of "Wait isn't there 7 Archons" finally got solved in Fontaine.

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agree

I believe there are far more obvious ways to identify who is who than the designs of the animals.

The monster also killed the fox with the red stripe in his fur, like Dottore killing Niwa

@@baronsionis6855 well duh...but I saw some people saying it wasn't dottore before, so I wanted to give my two cents. Thats all.

Yeah it’s 100% dottore, can’t believe there’s people thinking otherwise lmao.

@@mikofis I think a lot of people saw just this clip and not the Irminsul memory stuff before, so they made a lot of assumptions

yeah it's tragic no matter where you look, ei thought he deserved freedom but unintentionally making him feel abandoned in the process, and just when he thought he found people he could be with that genuinely loved him, the entire community is destroyed by a cruel experiment. Tries to find love and companionship again, found it in a child, but said child also ends up dying from the same thing that destroyed his previous community. Doesn't really excuse all the destruction he caused later on and he should take accountability and make up for it (from the quest it sounds like he's gonna try and do that), but it does make you feel sorry for him, makes you wonder about all the "what ifs" that could've happened for none of this to happen to him

@@niffleraku I wonder how his Wanderer life was like before he came to Sumeru.

Holy crap that fox fur suit even looks like the astronaut suit from Among Us.

That joke is overuse

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One does need to be narcissistic to feel capable of envy, though it’s very possible that Dottore developed his present sense of pride as a response to how he was ostracized and shunned from the community.

The forbidden knowledge has influenced your life.

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Maybe Yae? Nah, idk

Nah, the foxes are the Fatui. The one with the glasses represents Pantalone and the one with the cane represents Pulcinella. The grey fox is Pierro

Edit: Dottore is the monster. You’re all wrong, the foxes represent the people of Inazuma. The gray fox with a red streak is Niwa. The monster is in fact Dottore that killed Niwa. The bird is the little boy that was ill and later died.

Dottore obv look at it

I dunno its cute perhaps. Also foxes are also part of a wisdom meaning , yet Dottore isn't (i mean man is arrogant, total opposite) , i guess she put a black cat cause i dunno black cat are normally sign of misfortune yet the foxes litteraly took him in

Probably just an added thing for it to be fit as a fairy tale. From what i understood, dottore has always been aiming to cause chaos in inazuma, but the kabukimono appears and dottore took an interest in him, and eventually recruited him after the incident with the kid

@@JFreetard it's probably how he felt. My guess is that somewhere deep down, the sicko's really upset that he's ostracized when he shows how corrupt and cruel his means of progression and entertainment are. He probably acted out of line and started warping the furnace for tataragami energy when Scaramouche showed up since the future Balladeer was fully accepted despite being seen as a hollow being. My point is the psychopath could only hide in plain sight while Kunikuzushi would be accepted openly. Il Dottore still showed up looking for Scaramouche, but was set off when Scaramouche was found by the Tatarasuna natives and accepted. He's probably had points where he had to hide his Psychopathic nature and still gets pissed when he sees others not in the same situation.

@@monadolifesaver5613 thats a really great deduction. I just assumed it was a mere add on.

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@@monadolifesaver5613 yoooo that's such a cool theory and it makes so much sense considering other info we have on Dottore/Zandik's past.

Just like what others are saying, i also think that dottore isn't exactly jealous of scaramouche making friends, but he is pissed that scara, who is a inhuman vessel created by electro archon, is so readily accepted into the society while he has to hide his true, twisted self to be accepted by the people. The pale flame artifact lore also states how people banished him from his homeland for his beliefs and mentality. In the Sumeru AQ, he says that he doesn't want to be rejected by the academia for a *second time* . He got angry about how everyone keeps rejected him while scara, despite of his inhuman origins is treated so nicely and thus he killed miwa to destroy scara's life

When he was a child people around him called him one. He was called a monster all his life and took it to heart as an adult

English dub is best