NASCAR updates Next Gen safety performance with front-clip changes
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Жыл бұрынTodd Gordon takes you 'Inside The Race' with NASCAR's Dr. John Patalak as he explains updates to the Next Gen car stemming from Kyle Larson and Ryan Preece's accident at Talladega Superspeedway.
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@nathan1sixteen Жыл бұрын
These are the kinds of videos people want to see
@derel1cte Жыл бұрын
Great video. Love seeing these more in depth behind the scenes information. It would be great if NASCAR released videos about the post race inspection penalties. Show the fans exactly what was found please.
@RoastBeefSandwich Жыл бұрын
Maybe not immediately but after any appeals have concluded (or after the team has waived its appeal rights), I agree.
@crazyDale3 Жыл бұрын
“Safety is not a destination, it’s a journey” facts
@RoastBeefSandwich Жыл бұрын
I think Michael Scott said that originally.
@jrwhynot3631 Жыл бұрын
@@RoastBeefSandwich You crash 100% of the times you don’t crash
@nicksterl.2133 Жыл бұрын
"broken clock is right 2x every day" - Dr Phil Pattek
@handled99 Жыл бұрын
But safety shouldn't take a step backward
@cracklecracklebaybay5612 Жыл бұрын
Feels like great transparency on NASCARS part here. Definitely some good PR for them at the same time, but it feels mostly genuine. Your fans love this type of stuff NASCAR. Keep us informed.
@JackLikesTrackhouse Жыл бұрын
NASCAR taking tons of W’s lately
@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet Жыл бұрын
Now we need a lot of Ws like no stage cautions, get rid of playoff format, and increase horsepower.
@ZPaul_ Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@jgmusic_ Жыл бұрын
@@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet your username is accurate
@CrewGuyPJ Жыл бұрын
@@jgmusic_ he spit facts. one look in the stands on raceday should give you a hint about how wrong you are.
@thestarlightalchemist7333 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only one I disagree with getting rid of is the playoffs. Rather than scrapping them entirely, I say they should revert to one of the old "Chase" formats. The 2011 version seems pretty damn good to me.
@Crazysworld91 Жыл бұрын
I have to say. This looks like a huge improvement. That was a very scary crash at talledega. My only complaint is I wish we got to see more behind the scenes like this.
@brandencurtin4210 Жыл бұрын
Well no better time for them to start is now
@as_sv9788 Жыл бұрын
Transparency helps so much to calm the distrust and anger held by fans towards NASCAR. Great job. Hope to see more moving forward.
@devinaschenbrenner2683 Жыл бұрын
Information Nascar, it's all we ask for. This is a prime example of that. Outstanding. I loved that I was able to see side by side comparisons between the two cars. I loved that you explained why the cars were designed they way they were initially, and why that's allowed the mods to take place with out completely compromising the integrity of the clip.
@astrotheoman14 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad theyve changed the safety because after what happened to Kurt Busch last year, 😭
@D_Alleyne2005 Жыл бұрын
Dont forget about Alex Bowman
@AlexE5250 Жыл бұрын
@@D_Alleyne2005 bowman was injured in a sprint car crash, not a NASCAR next gen car
@aloelover6012 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexE5250 He meant that Bowman also got injured last year from the Next Gen's poor safety measures, got a concussion as well.
@Farkle_8000 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexE5250 Bowman crashed at Texas last year during the playoffs and got a concussion from it.
@JoeGibbsRacingTV Жыл бұрын
Good updates 👍
@stephenullman4534 Жыл бұрын
You guys are incredible for showing us these breakdowns. Great article. We really do appreciate it. Keep them coming!
@zyloproductions4870 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I’ve never seen a NASCAR crash test like this!
@etherealaim Жыл бұрын
have you seen the one where the gen 4 hits at 230mph and has a massive roll?
@1320crusier Жыл бұрын
Because with the new car this is one of the first crashtests
@albertmonk7403 Жыл бұрын
@@etherealaim can you try to find it?
@etherealaim Жыл бұрын
@@albertmonk7403 search "Insane NASCAR Crash Test (Dodge Intrepid)"
@captainboose8788 Жыл бұрын
@@etherealaimThat was 204 KMH not mph; around 120 mph
@gabriellareid3883 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I love this safety journey. Such a good video!
@PC10.8 Жыл бұрын
Great look inside a part of the sport people usually don’t think of. Great to see NASCAR making more strides in safety, and to see them sharing everything they’re doing.
@ChucksPullingVideos Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more videos like these. It's great to learn more about the inner workings of the car.
@Munke-Rench71 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, clarity is key
@therealnynetynyne360 Жыл бұрын
I like these changes it's also going to make using the bumper a little more risky for the bumper user. The clip changes are really compelling, would love to see some on track testing, mostly to see if there is flex and if the cars will twist up over the course of a race. Could make setting the car up a total nightmare, but car control guys would immediately have more success
@JamesJozef Жыл бұрын
This is literally addressed in the video.
@cak5171 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the transparency @NASCAR. Thank you for showing us how you work to improve this new platform!
@Josmersuero Жыл бұрын
As a wise tall young man once said, Safety is Number 1 Priority.
@AlexE5250 Жыл бұрын
Crazy Russian hacker
@Derangedteddy Жыл бұрын
Hey NASCAR, we love this transparency. Please keep it up!
@TinyHouseGuy Жыл бұрын
Make more videos like these please!
@josephmatuszak3855 Жыл бұрын
NASCAR evolving.... hell as a kid I never really thought I'd see the day. This is pretty cool stuff.
@montana262 Жыл бұрын
More of this transparent behind the scenes stuff NASCAR! Fans want to see and hear about this kind of stuff!
@NonZeroProbability Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this!
@davidreutimann9447 Жыл бұрын
Todd Gordon Is Awesome
@crazyDale3 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! for showing us these POSITIVE safety improvements since this comment section just wants to complain like typical NASCAR fans🙄
@1320crusier Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they are finally doing real crash testing but these are tests that should have happened in 2019 or 2020
@Glitchunlocked Жыл бұрын
@@1320crusier Yeah but in 2020 during Covid, any in-person testing was a no-go for most of the year. I agree with 2019, though, they may not have had enough cars built yet to crash test them.
@thomasbabcock5174 Жыл бұрын
Nice video..more please. Wish they would be more transparent. Maybe what makes cars pass or fail inspection,before and after the race. Video of that process would be cool. 😊
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
The cars to pass inspection or they don't get on the race track though might take a few tries. The thing with pre-race inspection is the tolerances are that car can be off a little bit and fix that you change something else or you don't get the car in exactly the same spot on the platform for the oss it can cause a failure even
@bonesdoes6142 Жыл бұрын
Great job 👏
@richardleviton1612 Жыл бұрын
Great video Love this information thanks Nascar
@sonny_njr Жыл бұрын
If the Elliott-Hamlin incident happened 25 years ago Hamlin would be dead.
@CrewGuyPJ Жыл бұрын
the same stupid move took Blaise Alexander, at the same track, in almost the same spot.
@KMerse1 Жыл бұрын
And that's why today's drivers think they can get away with it.
@Yokovich_ Жыл бұрын
very cool video. Thanks for sharing NASCAR
@joelcheek3494 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video! This is exactly the kind of info I crave.
@stephenbritton9297 Жыл бұрын
So the right side will now have the same panel that the left does (but not the foam). Does the left panel have the same extrication holes in it as the left?
@11Eighty8productions Жыл бұрын
More of this please and thanks.
@travis3732 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they actually will show the test.... Great to see some of the tech side
@GraysightRPG Жыл бұрын
Informative. Anything to keep the drivers safe is a step forward.
@CaptainBerz Жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to see a current car go through the same simulation test and see if it had the same outcome, or similar to the 5/41 crash, prior to them testing the new design. Maybe they did that. I wouldn't feel safe with the changes if they did not baseline the test with current cars and compare angles and all that to the actual crash damage. But, what they are saying makes sense. Glad they have quickly worked to make it safer!
@D1aNdOnLyNiCkx3 11 ай бұрын
About time good to see there softening the clips said it from the first day they rolled out car is way to stiff we need more crash test videos!!!
@danielsdimension7828 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy Nascar improves the safety and engineering of their cars.
@brent9798 Жыл бұрын
Great work!
@joeshelton1077 Жыл бұрын
Safety always comes first, thanks NASCAR for this video.
@z06doc86 Жыл бұрын
Thank you NASCAR for making our sport safer!
@1320crusier Жыл бұрын
File this under crash test that should have been done during initial development
@darkcrypto_yt Жыл бұрын
at least their doing it now
@CrewGuyPJ Жыл бұрын
@@darkcrypto_yt ya just like before..it took, adam, blaise ( arca) tony(truck) and de before they pulled their head from their kazoo. maybe this time they spare us a sacrifice.
@fcaughli Жыл бұрын
No in the clown shows repertoire
@bigdog2024 Жыл бұрын
Really good job to figure this out and make the changes for teams pretty simple and doing it mid year vs off season. I’m sure there are specific measurements around those slots that someone will be checking each week. I also read somewhere (Jayski?) NASCAR is reimbursing teams the cost of the changes. Removing those braces makes the front lighter and less stiff which will probably affect the handling as at high load tracks things might flex more. So that’s something that remains to be determined by the teams. Now that the #1 item, safety, has been fixed lets work on making the competition better especially at short tracks. Give them back some horsepower and less aero and see who can drive them.
@Ethan-mn9gi Жыл бұрын
So with the updates do the teams have to buy all new cars or are the able to send the chassis they have that are still usable in to be updated?
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
There's no reason to buy a new car and nascar is allowing teams to make the cuts and do the welding. Teams can if want take the front clip and bumper to techniques to do the work. Techniques will start building new front clips and bumper with the changes after they get done with modifying any clips they have that need done so if teams need new front clips they don't have to do anything
@Colevid19 Жыл бұрын
Garage 56 and now this. NASCAR is racking up the W’s
@jakebkilgore2086 Жыл бұрын
Some nice looking spot welds
@Jkentrolis Жыл бұрын
I feel like NASCAR overbuilt these cars to begin with and now they are reeling back the stiffness. Which is really great to see. Especially considering how all the drivers were complaining about the hard hits. Now I’m hoping they soften up the rear so one else gets bad like Gragson this past weekend
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
They was overbuilt but I believe the owners wanted or nascar cars that were more durable and could keep going after a crash
@jrandallmoore Жыл бұрын
What about the rear clip? We now have had 3 drivers receive concussions from 3/4 rear impacts.
@leegtracer3763 Жыл бұрын
So will it be machined with all the cut outs or is someone going to be using an angle grinder like they have done here on every front clip?
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
With the existing chassis I believe the teams will cut the holes. I bet they don't even use grinder but rather plasma cutter or torch and then ues the grinder to clean up
@cobratuner Жыл бұрын
When will we see these changes take effect or are they already?
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
Atlanta though some of the changes might already be on the track as starting with the 600 they was able to have the fix for the door bars and remove some bracing in the front clip
@g_men2121 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome!
@philsonnenberg6092 Жыл бұрын
Engine moving back seems not ideal. How strong is the transmission tunnel to keep propshaft and other engine components out of the driver compartment and away from his/her legs and feet?
@mrt4088 Жыл бұрын
I will wait to see what Dale thinks of the new clip.
@patrickracer43 Жыл бұрын
Although the changes to the door panels should have been made after Kyle Larson and Ty Dillon's crash at the Indianapolis road course last year when the back of Larson's car intruded into the passenger side door of Dillon's car
@gordonramsayslambsauce2519 Жыл бұрын
idc what anyone says about the COT. that was the safest car nascar has ever produced, and the racing was great on top of it all. no drivers were ever hurt or injured during that time period, which is remarkable. even with Michael McDowell’s nasty crash at Texas in 08, he walked away on his own without a scratch. crazy how nascar just keeps regressing
@colbyj138 Жыл бұрын
Glad someone with an engineering degree came up with these ideas! I mean slotted square tubing… mind blowing!😂 Not to mention the steel plates on the right side that you had to crash test to prove it works. Like the ones on the driver side that have been there for years??? Unreal!
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't just the slotted square tubing though
@KMerse1 Жыл бұрын
This also means that the cars themselves will become slightly more fragile, discouraging all the bumping and shoving. It is great IMO, because some drivers rely too much of the rigidity of the car right now.
@notboeingnotgoing5483 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a Nascar boot licker but I am a fan , as a former IMSA and IndyCar (CART) race engineer this car is still dangerous. This car is basically an IMSA road race car with removable front and rear clips to save the teams money but it still is not dissipating energy (AKA parts not coming off or getting crushed) and the driver in the cage is receiving the energy transfer
@jacobhansen163 Жыл бұрын
Better than ever
@ShawnCaldwell11 Жыл бұрын
this car is not a stock car, its a sports car. its a piece of junk that sucks on short tracks and is always randomly breaking down. is the next junk car.
@piedmontrailfan81 Жыл бұрын
@@ShawnCaldwell11 then just don’t watch
@RingoYote Жыл бұрын
@Shawn Caldwell nobody is forcing you to watch
@casey2472 Жыл бұрын
I like it looks well thought out. If nose ur car into the wall at 60 mph ur day should be done. Now put left handed lugnuts on the left side of the car so the nuts tighten up with rotation.
@Diecastracing1 Жыл бұрын
Is is a type of video that some people want to watch so that we kinda know what changes there making in the cars
@dcstrng1 Жыл бұрын
This gives visually, all the mumbo-jumbo sounding rhetoric that just begs someone to say "yeah, so what -- show me..." Excellent vid, thanks for posting...
@carltonharris7160 Жыл бұрын
i applaud the transparency, however i still harbor doubts about the next gen car
@WastdTrashPanda Жыл бұрын
Hella good job
@DRLmotorsports Жыл бұрын
Rip Noah Gragson
@JoseRodriguez-rl3ch Жыл бұрын
Kudos NASCAR 👍 only wish this process would be more efficient and take less time
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
No way to speed it up as I sure teams working since Monday as fast as they can but got Nashville cars to get ready for in 2 weeks also and next week I sure most shops the with no races
@durdre Жыл бұрын
@supercars - Would never do a crash test like this!
@joshuamessenger Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the transparency of these videos. But the crash test shows a stationary car on a flat surface. However, during the actual wreck that they are "recreating", the cars were on a banked surface, and the Larson car was moving up the racetrack into the Preece car with much more momentum. This test is great, but nowhere near accurate.
@talltimbot Жыл бұрын
Where did the Doctor do his residency?
@mrgeebers Жыл бұрын
Finally some Safety THANK YOU
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
They made changes in the off season to fix the rear of the car
@MrJohansen Жыл бұрын
@@johnhaas2523 drivers said they didn't feel any difference though, so the offseason changes aren't all that noteworthy
@JacobNascar Жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@1shotcap Жыл бұрын
after noahs gateway hit glad to see this..good job nascar
@thachuck5123 Жыл бұрын
The moment nascar doesn't have an ice engine then im just watching old races on espn classic
@Jayinjapanese 7 ай бұрын
NASCAR should take the license and team up with Disney to make cars remastered (lightning McQueen)
@willowspicewood Жыл бұрын
Are both the cars in the crash test the new modification. You were focused more on the crashed into car. It seems as thought you would do step wise. Side modifications and test, new front modifications and old side modifications and then both. So we should see three tests not just one.
@lawabidn Жыл бұрын
They are updating all the cars at once. They aren’t going to junk 4 more cars (@ $250k a piece) when computer sims can confirm the results
@acrock21 Жыл бұрын
crazy to think the impact diff was only 59 mph ... Larson could of been killed... but thats speed diffs we can see pulling out onto the highway... can even be much higher on the freeway.
@scorpion303067 Жыл бұрын
Safety is always number one can't have good product if there is no one to drive the product
@brentholt6830 Жыл бұрын
As long as at a higher speed the engine doesn’t crush or break through the Fire wall
@LordBurger Жыл бұрын
theyre basically copying the gen 6 safety feature which worked very well
@NathanM4A1 Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm worried about. If there is that much backwards movement at 35mph, how much movement will there be in a head on crash at 150mph. Hopefully they tested it at that speed was well.
@Theel25 Жыл бұрын
@@NathanM4A1 You never hit head on at 150 MPH bro. If you did any car would disintegrate. 35 MPH is about the most a car has forward movement when it spins. Hitting the wall at 150 MPH like that is usually a 30 MPH impact, because while you are travelling 150 MPH, the angle you hit the wall only transfers at about 30 MPH.
@richardlong6097 Жыл бұрын
Doing "a lot of the work in simulation" was the problem to begin with. Any simulation is only as good as the data entered in. U didn't need a master's from MIT to see how much more "stiff" this car is. Crashes that would have 2 years ago ended on the roll back are now being driven to the pit for new tires. Yet the energy is the same and must still go somewhere, if the cars not absorbing it the seat and driver are. Regardless this is a great move going forward, it just seems that doing more than one or two actual crash tests would've highlighted the problem before a career was ended anf drivers missing races due to concussion symptoms that could likely shorten their careers.
@DjChaz904 Жыл бұрын
MORE OF THIS
@geek49203 Жыл бұрын
60-thou is 16 gauge steel. FYI. Guessing about 12 extra pounds.
@AdamHumburg Жыл бұрын
“On the plains of hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of decision, sat down to wait, and waiting died.” -George W. Cecil, 1923
@guard13007 9 ай бұрын
It's good that it's done now, but these seem like improvements that should've been there from the beginning of this generation of car. I'm guessing the only reason they weren't there is because they weren't sure how the car would actually perform under real world conditions? But like.. it's been long enough now, the data should've been there, no?
@sukhrajheer1222 Жыл бұрын
Now can they make it where the drivers head doesn’t hit the steering wheel when they hit the wall
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
With front impact with the changes shown it should help stop that
@alacran1986 Жыл бұрын
Relearning what everyone knew….protect the drivers and improve the racing.
@SCGI-mr3hv Жыл бұрын
Didn’t the old cars have that sheet metal on the side? Why did they get rid of it in the first place? Any changes to the rear clip yet?
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
The drivers side already had the platting
@bobroberts2371 Жыл бұрын
048 Independent rear suspension? Is this just a road course thing?
@marcklarrieta8048 Жыл бұрын
these car run them everywhere now
@TheGenwil Жыл бұрын
kyle said expect the car would be heavier so increase the 750 hp is i think i would much prfer
@bigfluffypuppy6512 Жыл бұрын
I wanna believe that it’s less about improving safety and more about keeping people from whining and being whips all the time
@G_PTYNicolasCMP Жыл бұрын
Anyone heard Cadillac instead of patalak
@rks29 Жыл бұрын
Nascar should have known the car was too stiff with the lack of visual crumple damage to the car upon impact.
@ba.diecast24 Жыл бұрын
What I struggle to understand is why this common sense engineering wasn’t used to begin with. The idea that they needed a year of data is mind blowing. Should have been less rigid from the get go, and then further fine tuned from there with the “years worth of data”
@Farkle_8000 Жыл бұрын
More word is needed for the rear clips. This is a great start for the front clips and bettering that impact
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
They gave you all the information you needed to know last October about the rear clip
@Farkle_8000 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhaas2523 A: I don't remember what they said B: Gragson just got a concussion after suffering another rear impact so it still needs to be worked on
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
@@Farkle_8000 was not a rear impact that was drivers side impact.
@491Mystic Жыл бұрын
Performance vs safety fine line
@jabber1990 Жыл бұрын
i'im just worried now that when they crash now they have to buy a whole new front clip ....when I thought the point of this car was to save money
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
It is what it is when it comes to driver safety. You can't have durability and driver safety at the same time
@nicolewembley3093 Жыл бұрын
So now all the current cars at each race team have to be modified, so much for saving money, constantly making changes from on track real life wrecks, so drivers are kind of like the testing dummies, as this next gen car has lots of flaws that was pointed out by some people early on, to rigid.
@marcconte3275 Жыл бұрын
Something tells me this frame is gunna crumple a lot more
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
The rear clip allready dose since the fix to that was made in the offseason. This only affects the front clip not the center section
@3sgteyota Жыл бұрын
And it only took master engineers and a team devoted to safety FOUR years to somewhat undo what they did to start with. Went backwards in safety in the blink of an eye and almost back to where we were in 4yrs. Sorry to be that guy, but.....
@johnhaas2523 Жыл бұрын
It's not the same guys that did original designs work plus the team owners I believe wanted a car that was more durable and as everyone found out that and driver safety don't mix
@lydia1385 Жыл бұрын
Well, now I know what I want to do when I grow up. I wanna crash cars for a living 😂 Probably should've paid more attention in Physics.
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