NASCAR 21 Ignition | 2022 Season Expansion Review

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Austin Ogonoski

Austin Ogonoski

Жыл бұрын

Dmitry Kozko's wild ride will end in a courtroom sooner rather than later. NASCAR fans have been left with a defective product, created by a team posturing itself as a leading racing game developer and snatching up high profile licenses left & right, yet upon closer inspection appear to be little more than a Russian web developer and mobile game crew who were totally unfamiliar with the source material, and basically shouldn't have gotten this project to begin with. Or any of their announced projects, for that matter.
Ignoring the clusterfuck of a situation Motorsport Games is dealing with from a business standpoint, there are still people on the payroll, and they're still releasing products - today brings us a free 2022 season expansion for the ill-fated NASCAR 21: Ignition.
In any other racing game, this would have been an incredible deal.
Yet any trace amounts of good faith the company could have earned by working out fundamental issues plaguing the AI or framerate, whipping NASCAR 21 into a forgettable yet fundamentally sound stock car racing quasi-sim, has instead been squandered.
I don't actually think the team bothered to do anything beyond inject clearly unfinished new cars and tracks into the game. The content was demonstrably not tested and has left the title in a completely unplayable state. A half-decent lawyer and articulate sim racer explaining the intricacies of just how bad this product is, could easily turn this into a class action lawsuit if one isn't already on the drawing board.

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@exody7226
@exody7226 Жыл бұрын
Hello Austin I don't believe you are human from what I have seen your bodily functions see to be set on an egg shaped cooking timer I refuse to believe a loving god looked upon your soul with fondness. I am a professional snake charmer and for the past 15 years I have seen more light beauty and/or divinity in those heartless creatures then you. In late February my wife was bit by one of those creatures and died while carrying our son and that was around the time I questioned my faith and although I resolved those issue within my support system after discovering you I have come to find there truly can not be a loving god although I am quite conflicted in that I don't think normal conditions would allow something like yourself to exist so I thank you for reaffirming my belief in that a creator greater then us exists even if they look upon us in contempt :)
@AustinOgonoski
@AustinOgonoski Жыл бұрын
This is my love language.
@VaticalliX
@VaticalliX Жыл бұрын
can you speak English please?
@UnderwaterAlexJones
@UnderwaterAlexJones Жыл бұрын
Now THIS is Skitzoposting.
@exody7226
@exody7226 Жыл бұрын
@@AustinOgonoski you come off as being very small in your videos i don't think you should film yourself in person because of this you are extremely stiff and you are unable to make eye contact with the camera yours eyes are constantly shifting why is that?
@exody7226
@exody7226 Жыл бұрын
small metaphorically and or mentally
@TheIceberg
@TheIceberg Жыл бұрын
Ugh, I just don’t understand how it’s this broken for this long and people can still say it’s worth playing with a straight face.
@Racinrasslinfan36
@Racinrasslinfan36 Жыл бұрын
Because their shills Glad you’ve been spitting facts on this since before release Jared
@vex1919
@vex1919 Жыл бұрын
@@Racinrasslinfan36 Im not gonna lie, I dont play offline at all really, but I have a big group who plays online and the next gen car is so much fun.
@connorbingel7134
@connorbingel7134 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy playing it. I regret paying for it. But it’s still fun to mess around with. Some tracks are shit and some are great. I’m annoyed that I have no 2022 career mode
@dennisbowen452
@dennisbowen452 Жыл бұрын
Remember when you made that terrible joke about how this was somehow better than the heat titles?
@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet Жыл бұрын
And that’s why I pirated this game
@RyanGallager
@RyanGallager Жыл бұрын
It's the unfilteredness that has me enjoying this channel so much.
@AustinOgonoski
@AustinOgonoski Жыл бұрын
no im just a massive autist and say whatever comes to mind
@IndyGuest
@IndyGuest Жыл бұрын
Me too, 1000%. Don't stop being you Austin!
@senjykrazansky991
@senjykrazansky991 Жыл бұрын
The richmond problem is common in RF2 and can be fixed with one line of code 🤦‍♂️how tf these guys dint fix this in a year... So Yeah it is a studio 397 game... O god how y miss ISI
@valter_vava74
@valter_vava74 Жыл бұрын
S397 has very little involvement on Ignition.
@ozziecoops
@ozziecoops Жыл бұрын
ISI moved on, s397 did 2 things ISI was not going to do VR,DX11. Be happy, as we don't have any idea really on what MSG has planned for rf2
@WhatiFRacing
@WhatiFRacing Жыл бұрын
It feels like it got worse. Idk how its possible but everything is worse. Online is broken where like half the field is inder ai control on track and the gen 6 cars dont have a 3rd gear. If i kept listing all the problems id be writing a Stephen king novel
@1400hpnextgen7
@1400hpnextgen7 Жыл бұрын
The AI is bad, but racing online is better anyway.
@greatvaluetom4493
@greatvaluetom4493 Жыл бұрын
@@1400hpnextgen7 not really.. I ran a race at Talladega. Under AI control I turned dead left, wrecking the whole field, DNFing 4 Cars. I was the only car not to spin out completely. So I easily won the race. The 8 laps felt too long. I won the race by 2.6 Seconds. (The variance would be higher, only I hit the wall).
@brucefairweather6927
@brucefairweather6927 Жыл бұрын
It’s not bad still have a lot of fun online much harder tobdrive
@brucefairweather6927
@brucefairweather6927 Жыл бұрын
It’s not bad still have a lot of fun online much harder to drive
@BoleDaPole
@BoleDaPole Жыл бұрын
At least the oval ai is better than project cars 2
@SouperGoose62
@SouperGoose62 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your bluntness in your videos covering this game, I was actually considering buying it but you saved me 20$. Thanks man
@JacobNascar
@JacobNascar Жыл бұрын
Yeah I would recommend passing up on it. I only play it for casual fun and it's hard to have fun. I haven't played in months and I updated to the expansion and I only tried out a couple of tracks. New Atlanta and Watkins Glen (it was late at night). It now has a fuel and tire guage and the AI checks up on the corners at Atlanta Superspeedway. Also showing minimal tire wear, I was having to off throttle to keep from getting too tight and washing up the track even on a good corner entry. The AI lags by zipping back and forth all fidgety and at one point I even fell through the racing surface
@Kahne-yy3vq
@Kahne-yy3vq Жыл бұрын
Just get heat 5 and get the 2022 dlc that’s coming
@thehankmiller
@thehankmiller Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you opened with the credit scroll. I've been saying this since day 1. Put that team in a room and give them a simple 30 question fill in the blank Nascar quiz that covers rules, drivers, and tracks. I'm sure that would be telling. I'm willing to spend money on a game designed by stock car fans. Instead we get Ignition that is a slap in the face to any Nascar fan that enjoys the sport.
@ic3man
@ic3man Жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard Austin this angry before
@BrookieLikesCars
@BrookieLikesCars Жыл бұрын
I tried to play as Austin Cindric at Daytona today in the Next Gen. Yeah I rage quit on the first lap with the AI being unbearable and the car out of control. The AI ran me over in practice for no reason. 🤷‍♀️ tbh waiting on the Heat 5 expansion. At least I can drive in Heat 5.
@Dominion69420
@Dominion69420 Жыл бұрын
In the one hour me and my friend spent testing (me having bought to try it out and my friend who's had it since launch-so 2 hours of playtime combined with 2 different perspectives) we found the following: 1. Bristol dirt for next gen is literally just the oval with dirt texture slapped on and the AI made extremely loose. You drive just like the oval while all the AI slides about like they're on ice. 2. Atlanta SS is just fucked I dont know how to explain it the track is just bad the AI cant drive right 3. Sonoma's racing line(s) are just fucked, cars just randomly go off the track in the turns (including right into walls like off of 8) 4. As you pointed out, Roval the AI are just dead as well 5. In Homestead the cars just randomly wreck out and get stuck causing mass despawning *The next two are extremely important for those looking to buy this game:* *6. The next gen cars aren't available in career, just race now and multiplayer* *7. The gen 6 is literally undrivable (at least in automatic shifting) you will always go straight from 2nd to 4th, fucking your acceleration every time.*
@Mycarisloose
@Mycarisloose Жыл бұрын
No seriously, how can they get away with this? NASCAR must sever this relationship
@BarryJowers
@BarryJowers Жыл бұрын
Whats funny is after this "update" Radman is still shilling for this game.
@noone7206
@noone7206 Жыл бұрын
his comment section is pure copium
@thetechfromheaven
@thetechfromheaven Жыл бұрын
He signed over the dotted lines, uh huh. Never sign things without reading them or testing whatever you will be shilling first.
@xXturbo86Xx
@xXturbo86Xx Жыл бұрын
He's an idiot. And extremely annoying. I don't know how people can stand watching him play.
@youcreateyourownstory
@youcreateyourownstory Жыл бұрын
I find it funny that you say that… Do you realize that if you actually watch his videos it’s complete opposite? He literally plays the game as a joke, he has literally said before how awful ever game this is. I don’t know why you think he actually thinks this is a good game. There is no doubt this is a great handling game, in the sense of the physics are very good, and it’s very fun to drive. The AI is completely broken… That is literally what he says in his videos. I don’t even like the guy, I’m just simply saying that’s what he talks about.
@descent815
@descent815 Жыл бұрын
I remember previous to this game coming out Radman was crazy excited saying this is going to be the next thing since sliced bread that look at the graphics look at this look at that and as the previews were coming out people were noticing the AI. They were noticing at how blind they were how they slam in to you they cause you to wreck they hit the wall they ride in efficient lines and just all-around terrible and broken. Yet he had high hopes but the minute that this game came out and he actually saw what was being delivered his tune changed very quickly. And now I have to agree he does it more on a joke type of basis.
@Jutho3121
@Jutho3121 Жыл бұрын
I’m legitimately convinced they just didn’t play test anything before shipping this out
@bruhbbawallace
@bruhbbawallace Жыл бұрын
actually gateway was in nascar heat 2-5 because of the truck series, it was always one of the best tracks for multiplayer too edit: also the AI actually knew how to turn left lol
@BoleDaPole
@BoleDaPole Жыл бұрын
Ai in nascar heat 1-5 was trash too let's not kid ourselves. Honestly this guy has zero room to talk, he brags about working on Project cars , and PJ2 oval AI is absolutely terrible. 💯
@bruhbbawallace
@bruhbbawallace Жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole nascar heat ai was great actually, the collision physics were infuriating in the first three games but in 4 you can have some pretty good races with them also austin was on the quality assurance team at slightly mad studios, QA is not responsible for fixing the code, they just playtest and report issues to the the people who _are_ responsible for fixing it
@dennisbowen452
@dennisbowen452 Жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole yea he also fucked ur mom.
@UnderwaterAlexJones
@UnderwaterAlexJones Жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole must be hard to be this stupid.
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck Жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole Probably cause he wasn't in charge of the oval AI. Come on man, you clearly don't know how corporate studios work. He didn't have the power to fix every little problem you have with Project Cars 2
@valter_vava74
@valter_vava74 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: NASCAR is EXTREMELY popular amongst rFactor 2 players from Russia (and other Eastern Europe countries), so there would be plenty of people in those countries able to assist on the development.
@laurentderrien
@laurentderrien Жыл бұрын
you're right, Nascar isn't just any car competition, the particularities of oval racing + pack racing are immense, and any shortcoming is immediately visible, ruining the experience. I suspect most car games have similar flaws, but you don't notice them as much on a road track than on a speedway. The context is just more forgiving. It's all about immersion, and even I (who knows shit about nascar) can understand there's none when you overtake 30 cars in 2 laps on your own top line which they don't bother using...
@wes2253
@wes2253 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love being so early you can only watch in 360p
@Jt7166
@Jt7166 Жыл бұрын
My company has tried exporting work to job shops in other parts of the world to save money on many occasions. Often times these places know they programs they are using, but are clueless about the subject matter of the project and it shows in their work. I recognize what I’m looking at here with Ignition. However utilizing low cost labor is a fundamental part of the MSG business plan, because it has to be. This game and company is never going to improve for as long at that is the case, that’s been my experience anyway
@daveizdebski
@daveizdebski Жыл бұрын
NASCAR Rivals is the game they're releasing to satisfy the fact that they have to release 1 game per year until 2029
@thetechfromheaven
@thetechfromheaven Жыл бұрын
9 more years of this? Bruh...
@daveizdebski
@daveizdebski Жыл бұрын
@@thetechfromheaven 7* it's 2022
@daveizdebski
@daveizdebski Жыл бұрын
@@thetechfromheaven But I wouldn't say we'd have to wait long for a new developer as Motorsports Games will most likely go bankrupt mid 2023
@VaticalliX
@VaticalliX Жыл бұрын
@@thetechfromheaven technically 7 years but I don't want to live through any more than 5 more minutes of these bullshit games
@dalejrfanfreak
@dalejrfanfreak Жыл бұрын
Welp....glad us console gamers got the new World of Outlaws game to enjoy! Sad that my favorite sport hasn't had a great game in so long :(
@StarTrekGeek47
@StarTrekGeek47 Жыл бұрын
It's sad and pathetic to me that all the NASCAR games that were good (with the exception of iRacing, which is also good despite it's haters) were made in 2009 and before. It feels like art in general suffered a stroke in 2010. Games, music, movies, TV, all of it.
@StevenWatters
@StevenWatters Жыл бұрын
You want to know what's also sad, and pathetic... Is how much patience people have nowadays, people have less patience like with this game for example. People have the tendency to say "Let's make them rush this damn game so we can finally have a game", and what happened? It was rushed, people honestly should've been more patient to wait, but no... People must be dumber than a box of rocks to see this comment, and reply being all offended when I just spoke the truth.
@WhenInDoubtFlatOut
@WhenInDoubtFlatOut Жыл бұрын
haven't watched the video yet but opening with the development team credits is gold lol
@nickcecil9336
@nickcecil9336 Жыл бұрын
I did a race at the Roval today in the Next Gen car and everyone went single file on the backstretch and piled up in the backstretch chicane. Shame shame shame.
@blazn24warriors78
@blazn24warriors78 Жыл бұрын
Why is there not a case being built against motorsport games for the lack of everything issues related with this failure of a Nascar video game? There is hundreds of players who have repeatedly messages, texted and emailed the support team with the issues you have discussed in this fantastic video to no resolution from the support team. So how do we get justice for having to deal with this video game?
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck Жыл бұрын
Skitzoposting thinking there's some sort of legal recourse for buying an obvious scam. You could try and sue for false advertising, but not telling people about issues isn't false advertising. If you're a shareholder, that's different, they've lied in their reports. But consumers? It's called research, we knew the game would be shit and a scam months before it came out.
@nismo97
@nismo97 Жыл бұрын
I played NASCAR 15 not so long ago and while far from perfect it’s a much more enjoyable game than any of the Heat games and this. The driving physics feels surprisingly good and while the AI is pretty dumb, they can at least do superspeedway racing. When you create something that makes the Eutechnyx games look good, you have to start questioning the quality of your stuff.
@VaticalliX
@VaticalliX Жыл бұрын
good to see that you're covering this - you are the person we needed and you delivered damn well at least MSG is going to go out of business soon so we don't have to deal with this shit again
@justinc7841
@justinc7841 Жыл бұрын
Paid full price. Returned it. Still playing Heat 5. Waiting on a better NASCAR game
@gepflegtePCSpieleKultur
@gepflegtePCSpieleKultur Жыл бұрын
Shame that in 2022, NASCAR Season 2003 is still the best PC NASCAR game... Thanks for your hard work. Cheers
@dcaseng
@dcaseng Жыл бұрын
The only person who was even remotely associated with making legitimate racing games was Stephen Hood, and he is long gone. Everyone else has almost NO history regarding motorsports of any kind, and much less any Nascar experience as a fan. Looking at that credit roll and seeing nothing but Eastern block names tied to a Nascar licensed product brought back bad memories of Eutechnyx.
@VaticalliX
@VaticalliX Жыл бұрын
of course the Eutechnyx games are so much better than NASCAR '21 will ever be
@saturnalis8813
@saturnalis8813 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is a huge problem with games nowadays, The devs don't even test it, then release it because they know they will make money off of it, it sucks, the customer should get a quality game you know.
@ToniDamnation
@ToniDamnation Жыл бұрын
You're so well versed and knowledgeable about motorsports and have a great ability to articulate very succinctly exactly what the problems Motorsports Games has with their product that they should just hire you for consultation.
@johnduncan5117
@johnduncan5117 Жыл бұрын
Too late, he was already hired for Project Cars 3. Which as you know turned out perfectly - and now you know why, it was all thanks to his efforts.
@SGElPapy
@SGElPapy Жыл бұрын
10:43 Lol that teleport of the AI when you crossed the Start/Finish line
@SomeUsernameSomeoneElseTookIt
@SomeUsernameSomeoneElseTookIt Жыл бұрын
Man, how does this even happen in a game like this. Motorsport Games are something else man.
@moniker8391
@moniker8391 Жыл бұрын
I think in order to get the point across your going have to translate the entire transcript, captions, voice over, etc into russian before anything gets fixed but I would not gamble on it.
@theawesome48fanhunter
@theawesome48fanhunter Жыл бұрын
Damn this game went from bad to FUCKED IN THE ASS LIT ON FIRE AND DECAPITATED WITH A RUSTY ASS HATCHET
@joeygunit843
@joeygunit843 Жыл бұрын
Your digital rear-view mirror only shows pit Lane not the cars behind you
@xLogicless
@xLogicless Жыл бұрын
papyrus games ftw
@mandude03VideosYT
@mandude03VideosYT Жыл бұрын
Amen
@sankhdeepmitra5332
@sankhdeepmitra5332 Жыл бұрын
Calling a spade a spade. Good one Austin. Heat 5 felt like an award-winning game compared to the pile of rubble that is Ignition. The first time in my life I asked for (and thankfully got) a refund. Doesn't look like the 2022 expansion has fixed anything.
@RiffleVFXportfolio
@RiffleVFXportfolio Жыл бұрын
2:45 is that a rear view camera on the bottom right that is just a static image of the pit lane?
@descent815
@descent815 Жыл бұрын
Might as well just wait until the next NASCAR game comes along because this game has already been out for a year and it’s worse now than when it debuted it’s not gonna get any better. Thank God I have NASCAR 5
@BigCheeseIsReal
@BigCheeseIsReal Жыл бұрын
I did a half distance race at Road America last night. Pit for fuel at lap 12-13 or so. As soon as I changed tires I had no grip at all. No brakes either. No idea what the fuck happened. Tires don't stay cold for 10 laps around a 4 mile course.
@brandonwhitley8314
@brandonwhitley8314 Жыл бұрын
What's crazy is if you win a race and go to the victory Lane celebration you can see a rear view mirror in the car but you ain't got one while you're racing
@SirKingBoo21
@SirKingBoo21 Жыл бұрын
Monster games losing the license after heat 4 was the worst possible thing to happen to nascar gaming
@kadenlemon495
@kadenlemon495 Жыл бұрын
No. The worst possible thing to happen to NASCAR gaming is the exclusivity license. Although this is a close 2nd.
@1400hpnextgen7
@1400hpnextgen7 Жыл бұрын
No heat was 💩
@SirKingBoo21
@SirKingBoo21 Жыл бұрын
@@1400hpnextgen7 The heat games had >AI that was actually good >A decent career mode >actually worked >The ability to create a custom season in championship mode >all 3 series plus a dirt series
@1400hpnextgen7
@1400hpnextgen7 Жыл бұрын
@@SirKingBoo21 heat was 💩
@hessZL1
@hessZL1 Жыл бұрын
EA getting licensing rights over Papyrus was the worst possible thing to happen. Imagine an up to date game with NR2003 qualities that has cautions that don't have to rely on external applications to be accurate.
@Bane_Diesel
@Bane_Diesel Жыл бұрын
This should be a topic on the next sim racing rejects podcast. I would love to hear you two rip into developer issues.
@jeremiah4753
@jeremiah4753 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed all the racing where the digital rear view mirror keeps showing you on pit road.
@youcreateyourownstory
@youcreateyourownstory Жыл бұрын
well done, great video, well said, couldn't have it it any better
@jasonberryhowden4854
@jasonberryhowden4854 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for drivers,teams and sponsors the royalties are bare minimum off this game because nobody wants to buy a broken game, that's a update from the last years. Nascar has taken no responsibility for it either, this game should be the reason drivers are getting rich, so you can play a actual good nascar with friends witch brings more people, most importantly sponsors appealing to children (paintjob,logos and picking thier favorite driver it's what hooked me as a kid with the EA games ) but Nascar signs this lazy licensing deal and doesnt apologize to the fans,driver,owners and sponsors. Yes ultimately motorsport games is at fault with the way they run thier company but Nascar is the bigger problem, they dont care enough to try and they dont apologize for the endorsing of this company and thier games.
@jadendubecky4130
@jadendubecky4130 Жыл бұрын
They better not even touch indycar
@gevoman3959
@gevoman3959 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no I don’t own 21 and don’t ever plan on owning it. I’ll wait for the heat 5 expansion (which I’m willing to pay for). Heat 5 ain’t great but at least it poses any challenge at all and isn’t completely broken as a game. Just stumbled upon your channel around a week ago and I’m really enjoying all your content so far lol
@OrlandoLionFanClub
@OrlandoLionFanClub Жыл бұрын
The rear view mirror has nothing showing except the garage or your pit box. So they can't program a mirror in any sort of way?
@davidpeters2625
@davidpeters2625 Жыл бұрын
Your honesty as far as Motorsports Games is very refreshing as I tried playing the new update just yesterday, and, it was literally the equivalent of learning a foreign language.... like you said this game is all bark but no bite
@dennisbowen452
@dennisbowen452 Жыл бұрын
It's like learning Greek from a Japanese textbook but you're in French class and the teacher speaks nothing but Spanish.
@davidpeters2625
@davidpeters2625 Жыл бұрын
@@dennisbowen452 Exactly!!!!
@k9burnouts544
@k9burnouts544 Жыл бұрын
I cant even believe you played it this long, its so sad but its kinda funny at the same time
@buttslappingpirate
@buttslappingpirate Жыл бұрын
Concerning why more players aren't angry with this game, NASCAR is routinely crapping on its fans...with almost zero consequences. Why aren't they angry? I think they're too dumb to notice anything wrong, and this is a glaring example. NASCAR doesn't care if it works or if it doesn't, they just punished the guy screaming loudest about their broken next-generation race car with a crippling fine and loss of points, attempting to push the narrative that Harvick's team was cheating, never mind Harvick finished 29th.
@stephenthompson5459
@stephenthompson5459 Жыл бұрын
pretty sure Gateway was in NASCAR Heat 4
@josheldridge143
@josheldridge143 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad the new outlaws game came out, just finished downloading it, would much rather play that over anything motorsport games puts out
@noobiix007
@noobiix007 Жыл бұрын
Wait a second, how did you remove the blurryness from the dash camera?
@OneShotECC
@OneShotECC Жыл бұрын
*i paused the video at **19:35** and got extremely confused why the hell is richmond like that on the loading screen why is the start finish line so much closer to turn 4?*
@thatsenseijosh4035
@thatsenseijosh4035 Жыл бұрын
I paid $13 brand new still in the plastic for a copy WITH A WARRANTY from gamestop 1 year after release and it was a DAY 1 EDITION and I was absolutely amazing I could find it then I played it and understood why it was still brand new
@RocketCat525
@RocketCat525 Жыл бұрын
I really wish they would have a new developer make the new NASCAR games I wish they could get The Gran Turismo developers or Forza motorsports developers to make the next NASCAR game and they need to add the nationwide series and the craftsman truck series back to the next NASCAR game I think. great video and channel keep up the great work
@playmaker1058
@playmaker1058 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man keep it up💯
@markisaki979
@markisaki979 Жыл бұрын
I find that I'm gravitating more and more towards your content with every video. I don't see why you're apparently so polarised in this community when all you're doing is just speaking the truth. But the reality is that most of us don't want to hear the truth, we just want to keep swallowing blue pills. I have been playing racing games for 22 years, and this genre will unfortunately go the way of rhythm games if these truths that you highlight are not acknowledged.
@bobfromjob
@bobfromjob Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, Austin.
@dominickgiannotti
@dominickgiannotti Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Gateway in the Heat series though?
@theatagamer90
@theatagamer90 Жыл бұрын
"Denis Grabovsky" in the credits. That's just funny beyond belief. Sorry to the Dev whose name that is, but with that company behind you it's just a riot.
@ihateracin
@ihateracin Жыл бұрын
3:35 WWT is in Heat 5…
@VitorShadowSouza
@VitorShadowSouza Жыл бұрын
Those AIW mistakes looks like someone's first time using the (g)old Bob's Track Builder. People who thinks work on this is super hard or whatever probably don't know how AI lines on ISI games are just "lines" you do around the track puting points and sayin' "hey stupid bot, the wall is here", or "you turn here". I speaking look very easy to master what its not true to be fair, but from a video game leader, the most awesome company in the entire world with amazing studios (none of them in Russia, of course) and the greatest game engine of all freaking time, we could not expect less than a decent work. (contains irony).
@basedgodstrugglin
@basedgodstrugglin Жыл бұрын
Maybe the dev team wanted to make Texas into what Bruton Smith dreamed of when he reconfigured the track Lmaoooo
@AustinOgonoski
@AustinOgonoski Жыл бұрын
based
@bradystuckey3813
@bradystuckey3813 Жыл бұрын
And now, although it is dirt racing, you've got the new World Of Outlaws Dirt Racing Game that is actually pretty good. Decent physics, good AI. While not out of this world, I think it is the best oval racing game on console right now, even if it is dirt.
@oddyoda6443
@oddyoda6443 Жыл бұрын
Gateway was in NASCAR Heat 4 and 5 I thing
@flamingtablesjr.5412
@flamingtablesjr.5412 Жыл бұрын
Hey Oggy, if you have time in the future, how do I get in contact with you to test something for me? Granted I'm sure you'll find all types of bugs and hopefully point them out which is great, but an honest unbiased, unfiltered opinion is hard to come by these days.
@THECOMBUSTIONGAMER
@THECOMBUSTIONGAMER Жыл бұрын
Before the update/dlc/expansion, i couldn't even drive the cars... they'd spin out feeling like ice, or would start turning themselves to right or left at random with steering assist off. Seems like the update fixed that for my game and I can actually drive around tracks decently... but the ai and pitroad glitches and etc are there.🙄
@TWIRvids
@TWIRvids Жыл бұрын
The heat platform and career layout were great, they had to change nothing, the game was great as it was
@paulsdotman269
@paulsdotman269 Жыл бұрын
I thought we had it bad with the ACC console update. Wow!
@Indizzinator
@Indizzinator Жыл бұрын
Yea it’s ridiculous how I was the fastest by half a second in practice yet I was 2 seconds behind in qualifying after running the same no career and no mirror really kills it too
@Racinrasslinfan36
@Racinrasslinfan36 Жыл бұрын
Insert Kermit Oh No gif Somehow they are gonna break heat 5 with a 22 season update
@frostmirror1677
@frostmirror1677 Жыл бұрын
Gateway was also in Heat Ultimate Edition Plus on the Nintendo switch
@Arc_Troopa_Sam
@Arc_Troopa_Sam Жыл бұрын
I bet watching 40 cars go through the bus stop at the charlotte roval would be like Indianapolis in 2021 in this game.
@jawmedia7575
@jawmedia7575 Жыл бұрын
My copy flickers constantly while playing. Now I have only on xbox series x. I simply don't want to download it on my pc
@andrewwietecka85
@andrewwietecka85 Жыл бұрын
The Texas bit… correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t they “ laser scan” tracks, like iRacing? Or did I imagine their development team saying that?
@brett22bt
@brett22bt Жыл бұрын
The ISI engine in the 2000s was considered the best for real-world simulators, used by industry leaders in flight sims and motorsports. Even some F1 teams apparently still use this engine with rf pro. I played rf1 for years and was impressed with how it handled for the time. I can't believe how things have deteriorated; it's almost like a case of self-sabotage.
@AustinOgonoski
@AustinOgonoski Жыл бұрын
It's a good road racing engine. It has never been able to do oval racing right.
@YashaAstora
@YashaAstora Жыл бұрын
@@AustinOgonoski tbh the AI in ISI sucks at road racing too, it's just that road racing is more tolerant of bad AI than oval racing is
@sinner9104
@sinner9104 Жыл бұрын
I have this on Xbox series s and every track my car just always drives it's self to the left can't even complete one lap re downloaded over 5 times used 4 different controller's just don't get it
@sirnickels9979
@sirnickels9979 Жыл бұрын
Just remember console games can't handle a rear camera in the next gen car
@NotMattyDYT
@NotMattyDYT Жыл бұрын
This is why I quit playing months ago the game is just that absurdly bad and in fact I would rather play NASCAR Rivals over this bc it actually utilizes the engine from the Heat series which is a landslide better even if the physics are weird like how your car becomes a bouncy ball if it flips.
@Zoonsky
@Zoonsky Жыл бұрын
2:50 is that because of your graphics settings or does the digital mirror straight up not work?
@dergeneralfluff
@dergeneralfluff Жыл бұрын
It does not exist, the basic feature of a virtual mirror was never added
@1400hpnextgen7
@1400hpnextgen7 Жыл бұрын
Works on pc
@youcreateyourownstory
@youcreateyourownstory Жыл бұрын
only works on PC, not console, however was never made clear on that by MSG
@Zoonsky
@Zoonsky Жыл бұрын
@@youcreateyourownstory that is seriously weak by them
@youcreateyourownstory
@youcreateyourownstory Жыл бұрын
@@Zoonsky agreed! What I will say is that the Heat 5 expansion coming on the 21st will actually have it in car lol
@seancuccaro4760
@seancuccaro4760 Жыл бұрын
This game makes me with we just continued with the NASCAR Heat Series.....
@k9burnouts544
@k9burnouts544 Жыл бұрын
did u notice the broken digital mirror
@timgeorge3538
@timgeorge3538 Жыл бұрын
Have you ran any of the nascar mods for AC??
@AustinOgonoski
@AustinOgonoski Жыл бұрын
actually yes, was in two different leagues for them. Didnt like how either were run but the car and racing were ok. Won a few events and it wasn't terrible to drive.
@DaytonaPrototypes
@DaytonaPrototypes Жыл бұрын
Fanboys in 2021: DaY OnE PaTcH Fanboys in 2022:
@bwedd3772
@bwedd3772 Жыл бұрын
I personally wish eutechnyx stayed together and made the jump to ps4. A lot of people hated them but they were getting better every year and they did alot of things right.
@larscincaid6348
@larscincaid6348 Жыл бұрын
This game was a tax write off from start to finish.
@Zoonsky
@Zoonsky Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Also, a question to anyone reading this. I'm from Europe and have been following NASCAR for a few years, but I'm obviously not an expert. I would love to do a career mode in a fairly modern NASCAR game, but I'm not quite sure where to look. I would prefer a more simcade/arcade game, because ideally I want to play with a controller, but I also have a G29. I have NASCAR 14, 15, Heat 4 and '21: Ignition on Steam but I've been also looking at potentially getting Heat 5. Or should I just get a PS2 or GameCube Emulator to play some older NASCAR games' career modes like Dirt to Daytona, Thunder 2004, 05 Chase for the Cup, etc? And before anyone says "Just get NR2003", I have both a vanilla and a modded install of that game, but it can be an absolute pain to get everything right in that game, and I want a somewhat simcade/arcade experience, not a full on sim.
@kadenlemon495
@kadenlemon495 Жыл бұрын
If you want modern career mode and a good game that will soon have next gens get heat 5. You could also go get NASCAR heat 2000. I saw a mod for that game that completely modernizes it. Cars, tracks everything. Not exactly something for career mode but I would say it falls under the type of game you’re looking for.
@1400hpnextgen7
@1400hpnextgen7 Жыл бұрын
NASCAR THUNDER 03 and 04 👍 Don’t get heat because those games were cheap and poorly made no matter what the bots say
@bruhbbawallace
@bruhbbawallace Жыл бұрын
do NOT buy heat 5, it's just 4 but slightly worse and buying it directly supports the devs of ignition
@Zoonsky
@Zoonsky Жыл бұрын
thanks for the replies you guys
@UnderwaterAlexJones
@UnderwaterAlexJones Жыл бұрын
@@1400hpnextgen7 you werent even born yet when those came out.
@chillblastgaming
@chillblastgaming Жыл бұрын
In fairness, it's not just RF2 forums that have this obsessed fans who can't find faults or point blank refuse to acknowledge them. Have you been in the reiza forums recently? It's almost cult like how defensive those whack jobs fans are. One bit of criticism and you'll be mobbed in comments about how you don't understand reiza and should stop playing it as it's too hardcore for you 😂
@gojiman1649
@gojiman1649 Жыл бұрын
3:34 I definitely remember it in nascar heat 2
@longjohn526
@longjohn526 Жыл бұрын
Name the last time a class action lawsuit against a gaming company was ever successful? Look at the license, all you are really promised is something that has 1's and 0's in it. The only ones that have even a remote chance at successfully suing them are Investors and NASCAR
@AustinOgonoski
@AustinOgonoski Жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk 2077
@kenworth3
@kenworth3 Жыл бұрын
Love the video. Hate this game lol. Apparently Atlanta is the only track the Ai don't hit the wall on Realradmans recent video
@lucasracing838
@lucasracing838 Жыл бұрын
If the first Nascar Heat Evolution had this graphic and sound, it would be a masterpiece next to ignition. Says all. Nascar Heat always had a good ai an makes fun to race. And it has no buggy cautions. That makes the difference.
@jasonmciver843
@jasonmciver843 Жыл бұрын
Not only that but it drives by itself
@weirdfan88
@weirdfan88 Жыл бұрын
Wow they broke Richmond even more. Before I stopped playing that shit back in February you could wall ride the whole race and complete destroy the AI.
@hey_its_kev
@hey_its_kev Жыл бұрын
They said we got rear view mirrors but got no mirrors….
@MarcoPolo-rd6fp
@MarcoPolo-rd6fp Жыл бұрын
Please make a video on rf2 in its current state :) would be hilarious to watch. Thx.
@AustinOgonoski
@AustinOgonoski Жыл бұрын
Already did.
@chickenegg0138
@chickenegg0138 Жыл бұрын
Makes me sad to think that there is no righting the ship of motorsport games. All the licenses that they have acquired is spectacular and having a polished game for all of them would be spectacular. But, it seems that there's not a darn thing that can be done to have any hope of any of that happening. There's no righting a ship that's already on fire and sinking.
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