15:09 "ya know??"

"What's in the box, what's in the baaaaaaaaaaaax!"

She deserved it for Goop.

Not the box emoji lmaoooo

@@StreetHierarchy The look in her eye when she said 'ya know' made me feel like she knew what was coming. Apparently not lol.

But if it's shitty, why is it worth fighting for?

@@CptApplestrudl Because it can be better. People not fighting for a better place is what makes it shitty. The film is a critique of apathy, people giving up and not caring.

@@CptApplestrudl Because you live in it.

If you're not trying to make it better, what are you doing with your life that's actually worthwhile?

@@Tyler_W Depends on what's worthwhile to each person.

Just so you know, "mortified" means embarrassed and ashamed. I say this because I think you means "horrified" meaning scared and disgusted, but let me know if otherwise.

Yes Lord and that poor man is traumatized forever

I feel the same way, it was a big wtf moment

@@WisteriaDrake that's neat. I didnt know that.

Yes, I absolutely agree with you. I think 'the hollywood' has forgotten that 'implying' something is incredibly affective because it allows the viewer to use their imagination. I'll tell you what, tap into whats already in someone head, its scary, let them...imagine. The best cinema did that for me. All this 'showing' is wreaking the cinema experience.

Batman: "I'm vengeance". John Doe: 👀

You mean natmares?

@@prometheus705 David Fincher is one of the best directors with Seven and Fight Club.

I can’t believe this is one she hasn’t seen before. This movie blew mind mind all the way apart the first time I saw it. The flash of Gweneth Paltrow’s face at the end 😖🤯🫥

@@joemckim1183 and Alien 3

@@joemckim1183 and the social network

Honestly, I think John Doe outright saying that he "took her pretty little head" was unnecessary. Just like the Lust scene, we can put the pieces together, and NOT saying it further justifies Mills saying, "What's in the box?" I understand that the implication is that he's in shock and doesn't want to believe it, but it still seems slightly silly that he'd ask to see after being told what's in there.

mmhmm...Pitt is an great actor and he clearly knows a lot about film making if this was his call. It created one of the most memorable scenes in Psychological/Suspense/Thriller movie history

Source??

@@kylespeirs6510 Google is your friend. Search string = fincher paltrow head contagion

I just figured out that the blood on Kevin spacey's shirt in the police station was from Gwyneth Paltrows beheading.

La Haine is such an underrated movie. It’s so underrated that I had never even heard of it until this comment.

@@johnmorris8444 😂

90's in general were a phenomenal decade for movies...

@@fobusas it really was. Every year had a bunch of all time classics. 2000s were real hit of miss. Would have a great year sandwiched between 2 years where there wasn’t any film worth remembering.

@@fobusas 1994 was the strongest of that decade: Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, Lion King, Leon: The Professional, Natural Born Killers, Ed Wood, Speed, True Lies, The Crow, Interview with the Vampire, Drunken Master 2, The Mask, Stargate, Legends of the Fall, Heavenly Creatures, Fist of Legend, Clear and Present Danger, Maverick, Clerks, Dumb & Dumber, etc...

Which helped give us that classic video of the guy who hates Kevin Spacey being filmed watching the villain reveal

Interesting Spacey turned out to be a real life psychopath. Played enough of them

Very interesting!

do you copy and paste this on multiple reactions to this or am i just crazy? bc i thought i already watched this and seen this exact comment like weeks ago

@@markusbetts which guy I wanna see that reaction

It is also used to distract him from the noise of the city. You'll notice that you can hear all sorts of background/city noises on his apt. The metronome helps him focus and push out the city.

Perhaps the metronome also represents the ticking down to Sommerset's retirement (along with the name Sommerset: summer set/sunset). He gets fed up and throws it away when he realizes he's too engaged with the case (and ultimately, the job) that he doesn't get to choose when it's over.

I think a metronome is just cheaper than a grandfather clock and takes up less space.

YES!!!!!!!!!

All of you are wrong. The metronome is to desensitise Sommerset to the sound of a ticking time bomb in case he has to defuse a real life bomb. A lot of old detectives did this so they could think straight when defusing bombs.

yeah just wait till AFTER they're married XD

How about a lot of "people" would throw their "partner" to the wolves? I'm someone's wife and this is my favourite movie. Gender has F all to do with it, surely?

@@soshegames2084 It has everything to do with it... Congrats on this being your favorite movie. I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about Tyler, Nat, and people I personally know. Which is where the "a lot of guys I know" came from. I don't personally know you, and literally do not know a single woman who would list this as their favorite movie. My own wife has anxiety. I would not even allow her to watch this movie by herself, because she would have a literal panic attack.

@@soshegames2084 obvious bait is obvious lol

@@deanharstad5404 maybe it is bait, but there are actually people online who would be that anal about something like this enough to complain about it...

Honestly, that part felt a bit contrived, brilliant plot device but a bit unlikely

John Doe didn't plan the ending we see until his apartment was discovered. Then he had to change his plans. That's why Pride was far more rushed and simplistic, compared to the other murders.

As some of the comment replies (and Fincher himself) have stated, it wasn't originally part of John Doe's plan to have David as the Avatar of Wrath. It's actually a big theme of the film that he hadn't FOUND Wrath yet, but found it in David, especially after David tried to chase him down so vehemently. He knew he had then found his Wrath, and adjusted his plans accordingly (and creepily). Also, Who Dey

Could he be the TYLER DURDEN? ;) he just wants chaos

She makes the common mistake... Thinking people are Killed FOR their sins, instead of BY their sins.

Ty always has my back haha

She said in the intro that she was warned several times. Hence, she had some idea of what she was getting into.

Wow man, shouldn't let movies get to you so much. I understand though. But like I loved those crazy 80's movie and used to just think how cool it would be to be apart of the effects like the thing or return of the living dead, etc.

I saw the Exorcist in the theatre when I was in high school, and it's still the scariest thing I've ever seen. We're talking pure evil

@@recoveringsoul755 Now, watching the exorcist is damn near comical, the only yikes moment was when she stabbed herself with the cross and smeared her blood on her mom.

@@Fabian...... yeah that was terrifying she violated herself with the cross, I was also scared when the furniture was moving and about to crush the guy. We're talking about the devil here, like, the DEVIL pure evil itself

@@Fabian...... after the exorcist, my best friend would be sitting in front of me watching TV, and every now and then she would mechanically begin to swivel her head around grinning maniacally at me. Stop that Barbara!!

Remember Sammy Jankins?

It is on my list! :)

@@NatalieGoldReacts the prestige is the most underrated Chris Nolan mind fuck of a movie ever!

@Natalie Gold … Mentioning Nolan movies.. You should really check out ‘Insomnia’ with Al Pacino… Really good movie as well.. Also an underrated movie in my opinion..

@@DeppBaleFan insomnia is a great criminal case thriller but gets ignored because it doesn't have your typical Nolan type mindfuckery. It's sadly underappreciated

That's how I feel about that line too.

After The Batman I also thought about it

That actually does make alot of sense now that I think about it. Interesting.

Wow. I love this theory.

To add to the theory (which I fully subscribe to) is that Mills becomes the Joker. This snaps him and he chooses to laugh through the pain.

Wasn't there a sign in the pizza parlor that said "New York Pizza"? Though I know it's supposed to be a general "city with no name". Just wondering if that one sign was a mistake?

Mandela Effect. Maybe in a parallel universe you can see the head...

In retrospect, I always think there was a flash of something, like a couple inserted frames- but I haven't seen this movie in ages.

@@tomlewis4205 Her face is flashed right before Mills kills Doe, you can see it in Nat's video above for a split second. She's lit up and ghostly white.

@@CharlieSoze wow, you're right. I hadn't seen that before. Not her dead head but you can see how someone might have that image attached to the box.

@@tomlewis4205 26:52 - it's a very quick flash of her face, right before Mills pulls the trigger (looks like it was from Mills' point of view of her lying in bed beside him).

Working in the motion picture industry, I don't believe that for one second.

@@firstenforemost why not? The Alien chestburster scene was not broadcast to the cast, except for the guy who was carrying the alien. So the reaction was absolute horror.

100% true

@@BessieRiggs Except that it's not true either. The chestburster scene was in the script. What the cast didn't know was how much fake blood would be sprayed around. Veronica Cartwright especially since she caught a jet of fake blood right in her face.

@@firstenforemost You wouldn't even have to work in the industry to know all these stories are made up.

Yeah, except you have to look at Kevin Spacey which kind of ruins it

Another good one is the Al Pacino/Robert de Niro diner scene in Heat.

@@werdle92 I know. At this time, he was considered a top-tier actor. But, given the fact that his character is completely psychotic... it kinda works.😂

@@kevinschultz6091 Good call

@@werdle92 You can be a complete asshole in private life and still be a good actor.

Oh wow. First R rated film O.O Mine was The Last Samurai. Would be cool to know Nat's

The scariest moment was the ending for me, followed by the guy describing the Lust murder and the photo of that... thing, but the Sloth victim was a pretty decent jump scare.

@@brendanfoehr5086 The lust murder scene literally made my skin crawl. The rest of the movie was disturbing and creepy, but that scene is next level.

And it had good gun handling because Fincher had real LAPD officers on set to help with gun safety

Which is what more directors should be doing when it comes to firearms with actors. I don't know why Alec Baldwin messed up so badly

Probably his best movie ever. AMAZING!

Great request! A perfect movie. One of my favorites.

That and Gone Girl. Both are really good

I have not, but it's on my list now! :)

this

Try titane lol

Oldboy is pretty good too

Try irreverible, titane, oldboy, salo, requiem for a dream

The darkest "movie" I've ever seen was Episode 3 in Season 8 of GoT.😂

Cannibal Holocaust

Funny that reacting to the 7 deadly sins she looks a bit like the virgin Mary with with the white headphones and blue chair looking like a vail of purity.

Underrated? Ive never meet anyone that dont hold this movie in there top 50 movies of all time and brads top 3.

This was the film that made me realize the man CAN act. He was brilliant in this, especially at the end.

@@STNeish for me it was Interview with the Vampire, I saw it in the movies in 94 when I was 12, was terrified of tom cruse and felt empati for Brad Pitt and Kirsten Dunst.

Brad was incredible in 12 Monkeys too.

Damn... How do you manage to binge so many movies? What's the trick? I have to take a break after every 25 minutes!

Interesting that you included "Enemy of the STATE" I really enjoyed that movie with Will Smith and Gene Hackman a great meshing of these two. I hope that Natalie will react to it.

@@constantdeveloper honestly I think i have some form of ADHD. I watched 3 of these movies each simultaneously 😂 For 15-20 minutes I’ll watch one & then go to the other & then to the 3rd & then do something else & then an hour later start again. It started with Man on Fire; loved it so I wanted to watch similar mid budget action crime thrillers. Then followed the recommendation guide at Netflix & Amazon Prime.

No Zodiac?

@@andothersuchnonsense2685 hopefully this weekend. Zodiac & bunch of Denzel movies.

I second this. American History X is a must watch

I'd recommend Hannibal (TV Series).

I just commented the same thing before seeing your comment 😂

@@raimundkeller6115 oh gosh yeah for sure

American History X is a rough movie to sit through. But excellently made with some great actors.

The real magic of hollywood. Moments like that.

No he became something more. He became an outcast. He became the hero Gotham needs, but not the hero it deserves.

Honestly, one of the best, visceral moments in cinema & excellent work by Brad Pitt.

@@HoshijiroTS336 nope. Mills became the Joker, not Batman. Batman is one, Bruce Wayne. Joker is... a wildcard

@@edwardtuoix What!? 😲 Batman is Bruce Wayne. No way. Oh yea, sure he is. Next thing you'll be telling me that Clark Kent is Superman.

@@HoshijiroTS336 um, no. Superman is Shaquille O'Brien... or is it Conan O'Neal? All those micks look alike to me

umm...What? Care to explain?

I dislike 8mm, it's seedy and the movie, opposed to Se7en, seems to revel in it a bit too much, very unpleasant and disturbing.

i totally agree whit you.....the most violent movie without real violent scenes

Yeah, but he also did that fun rom-com Gone Girl.

also the social network, mindhunters on netflix, he was also a huge part of love death robots, panic room and gone girl are great too

Zodiac is my favorite Fincher film. Some people complain it's too slow and long, but I get lost in the brooding atmosphere. As a Bay Area native, I love how 70s era San Francisco is brought to life. Pre-Marvel Robert Downey Jr and Mark Ruffalo, and Jake Gyllenhaal with a great portrayal of obsession. One of the most diligent 'based on true events' movies ever.

@@jackstrawful - I could watch Zodiac anytime. I'm fascinated by crime stories anyhow, but the atmosphere of that movie is really engrossing.

You can actually see it. Test audiences insisted that they see Brad Pitt's character kill him. I thought the original ending was much more clever since they made a point to have Morgan Freeman's character mention early in the film that he had never fired his gun in the job and was about to retire.

Of course, now I can't find it online anywhere and doubt that I actually saw it myself, but probably the storyboard and my old brain has convinced me I actually saw that ending.

@@afoolandhiscameras7658 it's bonus content on one of the dvd / blu ray releases

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A girl I was dating was *livid* when I told her I thought this was a good movie. It was the lust murder that got to her. Looking back, I realize part of the reason it bothered her so much was that she was identifying with the sin for which she felt most guilty.

You know you've got a really good horror/trhiller film on your hands when they aren't showing you stuff. Far too many go for the shock factor... which can be pretty damn powerful. But letting your imagination run wild... that sticks with you LONG after the movie is over. Se7en walks that fine line like a tightrope walker. That lust killing is the one that undid me. Show you the weapon and let you figure out what it would have done when used as intended. It's gruesome in a truly disturbing way and brilliant filmmaking at the same time.

@@mycroft16 No picture can be more horrifying than what one's imagination can paint That's why the horror movies where u never see the ghost work better than most others

@@mycroft16 Absolutely, shocks and jump scares are fun in the moments the frames flash before your eyes, but things like Se7en or Alien where the true horror is left to fester as an image in your mind are exponentially more powerful.

It’s not about…..watching horrible things as a means to experience “joy.” It’s a morality tale. Tragic morality tales have been pillars of great, even important story telling since….well…. forever. This movie at its core pits a bright eyed, new to the city idealistic, optimistic protagonist, against a long in the tooth detective, who knows the city and is a rational, pessimistic protagonist. It’s about confronting the horror’s of the world while still trying to maintain a sense of optimism. Outside of the story, the direction, the performances, the screenplay, (which are all magnificent) in terms of it being graphic or “horrible,” it isn’t torture porn like the Saw movies. Most of it is left up to the viewers imagination, which is 100 times more effective. It’s the actors response to the crime scene’s that are the most emotional devastating, (lust is a perfect example). This isn’t a film about horrible things happening for peoples entertainment. It’s a meticulously crafted examination of morality, it’s boundaries, and that even the best of us can be pushed to act outside those moral boundaries. That’s why 25 years (or so) later people are still absolutely entranced by this amazing film.

Entertainment does not equal joy. Joy is a form of entertainment. For example, I don't feel "joy" through most of Nolan's films, but they're all super entertaining.

its like game of thrones, but more monsters