It most certainly is. Only behind Yamato I believe. Has the Mighty Mo been covered yet? That would be a sure winner.

I also think Texas needs a little more love. I know she's a bit more stable now but I've seen very little since her dire state

in general note you should do am episode for battleship /cruiser RHS G Averof of Hellenic Navy

I want to really see the USS New Jersey in world of warships. I can't remeber if she was a Virginia or Iowa class battleship. Anyways, I have seen the ship and I was in awe of her enormous size. I would like to see her in action since she had seen a lot of action in wars like the Korean and Vietnam war.

That's because the world needs a new kind of Battleship.

Yea better than *pawn stars, Ancient aliens, Cough cough H......C.......

Not really! See above!

Yeah

FUCKYA

Yeah your right this is absolutely awesome

they did not mention that Dog went fly out of that 16 inch gun ..... just kidding they use cats instead

and experienced fighting sailors

@@johnvill1981 wait *WHAT*

@@johnvill1981 well they did knock my dad three feet back after they told him to stand in a spot just before they fired the 16 inch , he shot the 40 mm guns on the iowa bb61 was first to board it pre 1943

@@awesomeaiden5218 wassup bruh how you doing there on the pacific

@19fatih07 I'm not a historian, though Google could answer your question

@19fatih07 aircraft from the carrier USS Essex flew 259 sorites over the course of the day, comprising of torpedo bombers and dive bombers. i don't know the complement of aircraft aboard the Essex but one could say it was the Essex that sank the Yamato.

No the planes that sunk the Yamato would not sink the Iowa because the Iowa is waterproof and has a lot of torpedo protection

@@Valkyire._. "The Iowa is waterproof" the builders on the Titanic also said the same.

When it comes to BB fight lmao that's he mean

People often think that until 9 16” shells come headed their way

Those people have the same attitude about revolvers. They're wrong

@@deleted_215 And each of those 16” shells weighs 2700 pounds

@@jamesgroccia644 So about 9 mini coops coming at you at blaring speeds

@@pixelyz7792 Subsonic, but yes

I salute to your father for serving during WW2. All veterans deserve respect on both sides! :)

saluting your father. your father makes me want to join the navy even more

the only Battleship with a bath tub

did you see Hiroşima as well?

aaa

+Rapitor I really wish they make more of Battle 360. :(

+Rapitor naaaaa let's talk about aliens that helped us and live with us 131r6546435 years ago....damned history channel... it was a great channel but now....

yeah ... history Ch now broadcast so much shit and nonsense .....!!

Rapitor no way dude we need to know about ancient aliens and what 2 middle aged men find in a barn covered in dust(american pickers).

Cirno Ew. Go watch better documentaries

Well you should play this rn

you opened my heart, thank you

Is this a complement or

Stop stop now ima lose every game because of you!!!

I only use iowa

jarem jefferies so don’t die.

amen to that

ikr

AMEN!

+DokturProfesur they mean't "Accurate for a Battleship"

well usn bbs get a dispersion buff from t8 to 10 as well as a bow amor for the montana in 5.6 like you should know.

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THe Iowa in the game isn't accurate at all.And Its expensive

Bro

Yup.. Broadside Republic 3 out of 9 hits at 10km lol

Maybe WG hates the USN that’s why it’s not accurate?

but answer in Kancolle cuteness

but answer in Kancolle cuteness

learn more from here then so call history channel which is joke now.

Very bad teachers I guess.

Better than history channels

Well I mean Bismarck was getting more and more shots on hood, it was just a matter of time of when it was sunk

Connor McBride if i recall though, they only landed ONE shot that just blew it all up. I may be wrong

@@windows5096 no they were starting to hit a few times already, I think a survivor from either hood of the other British ship said that a round took out most of the command crew. And also a round blew up the anti air gun ammo causing a wave a fire on the deck killing anyone on the deck

Connor McBride well, id like to think that it was still “luck” that the one meaningful shot was that, well, impactful. Kinda gives a bit of life to to the machines

@@windows5096 well I don't know if it was luck, considering after hood sunk, the other ship was targeted and very quickly lost its guns

Sorry for your loss RIP

May God bless your brother. For the life he lived and for the service to his country. He gave the ultimate scrafice, he will never be forgotten.

@@markteaney3764 Thanks Mark my pain is for other familys also any body that hurts suffer ect im just regular guy dinking working and enjoying freedom .......

@@markteaney3764 thanks Mark if he could he do it again everybody should do one of service

high school 12 grade Mark army air ect

do anybody know what happend in the turret?

maybe one of the gun breeches was not fully closed and sealed and the explosion did go back and killed the turret

@@schwabbel_di_babble3253Maybe, although I don't know how it got down the ammo elevators so easily.

@@MolowaKeiki Thanks! I must have gotten 47 from a faulty source. I checked again myself and now I'm getting between 81-110 men per turret. So anywhere from 42% to 58% of the crew died. Still sad :(

It’s just like the Hood detonation, but in this nobody not even a single one in that turret survived.

@@schwabbel_di_babble3253 The navy ruled it a suicide if i remember correctly

That's true!

Owen Yin always that damn random torpedo out of nowhere man

It was one lucky shot from Bismarck the exploded both of Hoods magazines and broke her into 3 pieces.

KineticRhyme

REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY!

How coherent! Duh!

I got to see her sister ship in Dubai during Desert Storm, the Wisconsin. The size of the ship was impressive, the only change that had been made since WW2 was removing the rear turret for a cruise missile launcher, which increased her striking range to 1000 miles.

@@w41duvernay BB's are the best

@@Twobeeeeee tho they're outdated they can still be a mighty force

No warfare machine is never outdated.They can be used as long you know the strategy to use it resourcefully.

Iowa has very weak armor of only 305 mm, whereas other battleships have armor thicknesses of 356 mm or higher. Wut the heck US navy

Tirpitz: Was sunk on November 12, 1944 USS Iowa: Battleship Iowa museum since July 7, 2012 Yamato: Was sunk on April 7, 1945

@@theheavytonk928 Thing is, yes its armor wasnt as thick as other ship, but it used a sloped internal belt giving it thicker effective armor. Thats the reason they made the belt internal, they couldnt have a sloped external armor as it made the ships seakeeping unacceptable. Its armor was designed to withstand its own guns.

(Joshua Krieski) Ok I’ll stop you right there. The belt is kinda effective, but may instead of defeating a shell may make it fuse even if it didn’t penetrate the citadel, giving extra damage to the ship compared if it is external, which can and will fuse the shell outside, at least giving up slightly lower damage. Edit: Also, the ship could stand its contemporary (foreign) 406mm guns but not so much if her own guns, well she can, but if we include the SHS shells, she really can’t survive it.

Thanks. For. Serving in the. Greatest. Navy. In. The world I

I've heard that to it was very funny I wish they had footage of it though.

lazer guns.... american bias nerft pls

Artillery shells that kill anything within about 200m of their blast will tend to make the enemy get their heads down.

The N.J. has 19 battle stars. No other battle ship can say that. Served her country well.

Lol what's your problem, get over what? I'm talking about how accurate those guns were. And what do you mean "You lost", I wasn't even born then. There's plenty of stories about how accurate those main guns were in the Korean and Vietnam wars, the Iraqis in '91 surrendered to a recon drone deployed from one of the Iowas because they knew what was likely to come afterwards.

Santiago Machado Yamato is more sexy

I remember that video when he was using his Midway lol

Moisesezequiel Gutierrez aren’t the Iowa and New Jersey more or less the exact same?

Emperor Kyurem Nope! Iowa is the first Iowa class Battleship made while New Jersey is the second Iowa class Battleship made, their hulls and designs are same but they're not the same ships New Jersey has a bit more powerful gun than the Iowa, the shape of their 16" turrets are different, and Iowa has some Anti-Aircraft guns on some of the Iowa's turrets.

Moisesezequiel Gutierrez Huh. Didn’t know about the armament differences. Thank you for enlightening me :)

ikr there was so much ice cream on battleships, too much, way too much, 10 tons too much

@@jargon9346 bazinga

YAAAAAAS!!! Aroooo!

You want to be on deck when those big shells hit?

the lowa will probably sink in less then 5 minutes. The yamato sister vs lowa

nah the iowa will win...its better

Cameron Grant how Yamato outrage her. Have more amour and hight damage.

Vicky gets my vote!!! Iowa: I was never sunk

Lol Bismarck: Sunk, Yamato/Hotel: Sunk Meanwhile Iowa: I am speed, my AA can protect Carriers and myself lol I cant be beaten by planes while the other 2 trash were beaten by planes lmao laughable, my sister is featured in an alien movie and destroyed an Alien and I'm still alive lmao

@@belfastbelchan4039 your lucky iowa

We have Emma and her two moms

@@JustConfused3520 bahahhahahahaha XDDDDD on the other side our mother russia got marvelous fathers ans mothers XD

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WE DA PEOPLE

He said that Yamato is the biggest battleship in the world. Should have said WAS

Mk 37 fire control director

Yeah the ‘Sconnie could kick Yamamoto Butt. There’s a reason she was used up to the gulf war

RIP to the BT rate. Sincerely, An MM

It was a sailor smoking a cigarette that caused the explosion on the Iowa Dont let anyone else tell you different!

its so badass that we preserved not one, not two, not three, but ALL FOUR Iowa-class battleships

I loved seeing it when I was around 14. Being from WI, It was special

yup and she is the first ship you see on the tour when you visit Norfolk. If you want to see our fleet at work go to Norfolk it is the headquarters of the Navy.

Wow complimenti 🤗

Never take advantage of our amazing history 👍

Honestly it wasn't all that significant. It never got to fight another ship. It did some shore bombardment and AA, but it really doesn't take a battleship to do that.

@@scoobiusmaximus9508 no it fought some battles bb61 fought ,the others of the Iowa's didnt, but it did take fire from shore my dad was on it , the whole side of the ship was told to go to the other side and they went further out and then fired more rounds , the iowa bb61 was first in japan harbor in case they changed there minds ill look a tmy dad records see how many battles it did

@@onlythewise1 so I double checked and Iowa fought exactly one battle against other ships. During Operation Hailstone Admiral Spruance ordered his carrier aircraft to stop attacking a group of Japanese ships so that his surface ships would actually have something to do and by calling off the aircraft so ships could fight some of Japan's ships escaped. Iowa did get to fire on the Japanese cruiser Katori in that battle. Every other engagement was anti-air or shore bombardment. The closest it got to combat with another ship before that was when another US ship, the William D. Porter, fired a torpedo at it by mistake. This was actually a pretty big deal because FDR and a bunch of high ranking military people were on it at the time. It is true that on a few occasions the land forces shot back, but most of the time they just did not have the range to do so.

@@scoobiusmaximus9508 i already told you my dad fought on it ass your blocked

+Wolf of the Aurora I LOVE the Iowa so much I was so excited when I saw this. I really hope they sell a Premium Iowa class ship so I can buy it and love it forever.

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Yea but the midway sunked the Yamato

@@egggamingyt9272 the USS Midway didn't exist back then

if yamato had air cover Iowa would be the biggest enemy of yamato

My bother-in-law served on the Iowa that fateful day. He was supposed be in turret 2 that day, but was switched to turret 3 before the incident. He has an incredible wealth of knowledge of the ship, but doesn't like to talk about that day at all, understandably so.

I also recommend a stop to Camden NJ where the Big J AKA Battleship NJ is currently residing.

I was just at the Wisconsin. It was definitely worth the trip!

The USS Wisconsin is beautiful. Well worth any trip to go and see it

Yes, along with the Fletchers

@Nate Auch ding dong your opinion is wrong

You know what's even more beautiful? Montana class

@@slenderfan-101j.g.4 Did they float the seas? No.

@@AugmentedGravity i mean in gameplay (no need to get defensive)

Brave man, rest in peace

My condolences to you.

amen

Its was 26 years last time and we are facing the same scenarios. Russia is getting to big for its britches. They wouldnt be sailing their POS air craft carrier around if these 4 beasts of war were still around.

Not realy, missile tech has made them faster, harder to detect not morr lethal. Modern missiles can desimate the modern fleet, not the Iowas.

Batman Not quite, the Iowa even on display has 4 Phalanx CIWS systems. Missiles and bombs would be shot right out of the sky.

What purpose would Iowa and her sisters serve? They have outlived their uses. Granted, its nice to see that they're the only few surviving battleships that survived WWII, but what purpose in modern warfare do they now serve? Aircraft carriers are still the pinnacle of modern naval warfare. Equipping them with modern AA and missile tech will only do so much and if you wanted a ship with CIWS and missiles, Ticonderoga-class DD serve that role flawlessly. The only thing that brought the Iowas back in the 80s was the need for their 16 inch guns to be a presence of force. Iowa represents the end of the road for US and WWII BB technology. Let her and her sisters rest as museum ships. They honestly deserve the fate they now serve especially given how old and how often they were almost sent to the scrapyard in the USN Reserve Fleet. Let the girls deserve the vacation they painstakingly earned.

Nowadays they probably don't. None of the ships are expected to ever see combat again. They only remains in service as long as they did because some Marine Generals where concerned that if it came to beach landings we wouldn't have the firepower in the newer ships to cover the troops.

@@DevinEMILE and because the soviets launched some heavy cruisers that scared the shit out of the navy, and so they reactivated the Iowa to counter it

French ships are beautiful too you know but Yamato is straigt up gorgeous

They’re from a romantic time, one of the last reminders of the Greatest Generation. Nowadays, they’re living legends. As the saying goes, it doesn’t matter what kind of missiles you have. A battleship still has you outgunned.

Is there a reason why there was always one secondary gun manned by Marines only?

AJ “The Marine Detachment always manned one of the five-inch mounts, and the mounts were identified with the Marine Corps emblem. Each battleship had one mount manned by Marines,” said Maj. Gen. Melvin Spiese, the 1st Marine Expeditionary Brigade commander and deputy I Marine Expeditionary Force commander at Camp Pendleton, Calif.

+_DEXCON_ the ship or the accuracy?

accuracy

You gotta realize that in real life there was a room with over a dozen people making major calculations. The accuracy was for a non-moving target while not moving at full speed.

+_DEXCON_ besides....it'll find it's way into the game....as a premium. lol

collector2252 xD

Then you should know that a fire-control radar is a source of input to a fire-control computer, NOT a potential match for one. Surface-search radars can be very accurate for ranging, not so much for azimuth; no matter- they serve for acquisition, not targeting. Mechanical analog fire-control computers have "challenges" not encountered with digital.

Thank you for your service sir

Mark;- At what range can the 16" 50 Cal main gun achieve this 20 yd X 40 Yd accuracy? At a mile maybe? Absolute BS if you say this is possible at 5 or 10 miles!

thank you for your service sir

@@josephkane825 Accuracy is only calculated at the furthest point of artillery reach. 40+ miles sir.. It shot many 1000's of these rounds from sea too land alone with this accuracy.

+Cyberphobe But what about the Big Cheese?

Alex Camacho What about her? The USS Wisconsin doesn't have anything above the other three. As I said, New Jersey was the most decorated, Iowa was the first, and Missouri ended the war. What did the Wisconsin do that set it apart from her sisters?

I could try to make a feeble argument that she was the final battleship in world history to see action (via Persian Gulf war), but yeah, I guess that's not really notable compared to her sisters...

Or since all 4 are preserved, just do all 4 of the 4 ships....

Alex Camacho Not to mention that the Missouri also took part in the Persian Gulf War same as the Wisconsin. So technically makes both ships the last battleships to see action.

ɪsᴀᴀᴄ ᴀʟᴇxɪᴜs ɴɢᴜʏᴇɴ if you are coming here to learn about these ships you’re pretty sad or an idiot

Zedds Dead Baby get over it.He wants to learn,so let him jackass.

@@johnnyappleseed79 oof ur dumb people warned better and this than a f****** stupid

@@johnnyappleseed79 The only idiot here is you. I don't know what the fuck is going in your mind. Seriously, how is he's an idiot for learning from a KZfaq video?

Hell yes

I remember ... I was a hole snipe between 86 and 90 .. it was a long day. Fireroom 2 and 3 We will never forget the "47" . I'd do it again. Good Luck

You should photograph and publish that. It's a part of history, and he was a hero and deserves to be recognized. It would make a lot of people very happy to read.

@@n111254789 Thank you. I've sent copies of his battle diary to the USS North Carolina memorial in Wilmington, NC and talked with them quite a bit. Probably my favorite entry dad wrote about was on Tarawa, he said: "6,000 monkeys killed" in reference to the bombardment of the island. He was also with the battle group that picked up George H.W. Bush when he was shot down off Chi Chi Jima in 1944. Wild stuff.

+Cubey42 So she's the first America ship in Kancolle huh? That's quite a powerful entry wouldn't you say? To tell you the truth, I never expected to see an American ship in Kancolle. I always thought the Abyssals were the Allies ships. That just threw that theory out the window. I'm happy that we'll be seeing some American ships. I wonder if Kancolle will turn all ships into girls? It'll be one impressive list trying to get them all in. Anyway, I recently saw how Iowa would look in Kancolle and she's beautiful. Don't put her in a team with Katori though...

+Anell “AZD” ALL It was a complete surprise when Kadokawa Games announced the Iowa as the first KanMusu for the Allied forces. Most of the fans of the game were expecting Warspite to appear first since she was mention in one of the quotes from one of the German KanMusu (I don't remember the name though)

DeLEET Titan Oh really? Well...what a surprise.

+Anell “AZD” ALL the theory that the abysalls are allied warships is not as inaccurate as one would think, it's just not as specific as that. the abysallas are corrupted ships not a specific fleet from just one nation. exemplified by several of the abyslas being Japanese in origin, shown by exhibiting key traits of the ship girls they are corrupted from

P202QXIWSP Ah. Maybe they want revenge for being abandoned? Ships in the past were destroyed, sunk, scrapped / etc. Maybe they could be dark corrupted "emotions" of the past ships that want to attack for being treated the way they were?

12 of those guns is crazy!!!! Full send !

What more did it bring except one more turret and better belt armor relevant in a fight against the yamato

@@RAiNfORAiNbOW So an extra turret and thicker belt armor wouldn't have made a difference? I think they would have made a significant difference.

Yeah but the age of the Battleship was over, Aircraft Carriers reigned surpreme, aircraft had (and still have) a way greater range than artillery shells and are far more accurate. But an interesting fought: If they develop Gauss Rail Guns at some point, with Shells travelling further or as far as Anti-Ship-Missiles with modern computer guided precision, there could be a renaissance of ships bigger than Cruisers (and really today only the US still operates Cruisers, most navies stick to Destroyers or Frigattes as largest ships today), since shells probably are easier and cheaper to manufacture than guided missiles.

I think my imaginary ship is alot better than the Montana.

Ok, so my imaginary battleship is named USS America.

Welcome aboard!

Modern antiship missiles can't penetrate. The problem is that the expense to update and maintain them is just too much for what they offer in modern war.

+Khang KT Can't implement, increase gun dispersion.

+Khang KT i can accurately hit other BB at 17 to 19km, that's very accurate to me.

Kevin L Comparatively to the Yamato, it has worse accuracy (Which is not true in realistic standards)

+Kevin L you must have RNGeezes on your shoulder. The dispersion is so ridiculous on the Iowa, I pray for lucky stray shell to hit the damn target and even more pay it actually damages it on top of that the damage is only 1200. On a miracle I landed 5 shells on another BB any did 5000 damage and if you look at the damage table of AP 5 hits should of done a lot more than 5k damage, and yes I nailed him on his broad side from 11k out.

+Greg Rage Only have 4 match with the Iowa so it must have been luck :), land 6 hit, 2 citadel hit and sink the half full hp Izumo.

Then suddenly a ton of torpedoes bombers coming outta nowhere and sinking you. Battleships were outdated by then.

+DASCO2136 not to mention that the narrator stated she was never used.... I call B.S...... Iowa, Mighty Mo AND the USS New Jersey saw support roles from wake all the way to the fall of Sai Gon.

+DASCO2136 In the CGI of at 14:15 showing the Turpitz, Iowa, and Yamato it shows that the museum started up in July 7, 2012

I do not know where you got the idea where Iowa was 'never used'. If you are referring to 'A trump card that was never played' I think it meant that she never went up against other battleships. The only times when she drew her guns on an other ship was on IJN Katori and USS William D. Porter. Other than that she was escorting carriers and bombarding land based targets.

Wolf of the Aurora boy like the Yamato

Yamato faced a tragic fate though, unlike IOWA.

they do....they have 'inside the cheiftians hatch' and 'inside the tank' series on KZfaq.....

+KandaPanda I mean more frequently and more different ones

Zach Glen got it...i just wasnt sure if you were aware of them or not. :-)

+KandaPanda Cool, they also do Tanks Nuts and Bolts

Zach Glen ....then, what the hell am i doing trying to teach you shit? you already know more about their vids than i do! ;-) haha thanks, i will have to give that series a look.

Didn't routinely clean that carbon out?

WOW! That HARP gun must've been a Gerald Bull invention, right? At first, I thought you'd spelled H.A.A.R.P wrong, and then I saw you were talking about long range super guns. What you say sure sounds like a Gerald Bull design, due to the smooth bore concept, and a low sub-orbit into space. The 1250 lbs. of black powder you're talking about is nearly DOUBLE the weight of the 660 lb. maximum charge of CORDITE they could stuff into the breech of the 16's! So you're sure right about the 'heavily modified' part! That must've been a ferocious thunderclap when they pushed the button on that baby! There must've been a firestick almost as long as the barrel jump out of it! And a small tornado of wind getting sucked in to feed it as well! I remember that gun turret explosion you're talking about, wherein they blamed the queers, but I never ever saw them mention any names. I thought that part of it was classified. Thanks for coming forward with the truth, no matter who's reputation it tarnishes, 'cuz like the old saying goes - 'Death Before Dishonor'. Everybody loves a 'whodunnit', or a conspiracy undoing, at least I sure do! That's why I was so disillusioned with Uncle Sam when Michael Ruppert's 'Truth & Lies of 911' blew the whole 'official story' right out of the water! After that, it was one damning expose after another, beginning with 'Loose Change - 2nd Edition', followed by Loose Change - Final Cut', followed by 'Architects & Engineers For 911 Truth', and on and on. The part that pisses me off the most though, is unlike the Iowa case, no one yet in the Bush Leaguers has swung for the massive act of egregious treason they pulled on the American people, as an excuse to firstly wade into Afghanistan and prop up poppy crop production to make the skag supply safe for North American junkies, and to facilitate the C.rooks I.n A.ction to be able to launder between $300 Billion to $600 Billion in narco bucks ANNUALLY through Wall Street! And of course to be able to fund their black ops! Then from there of course, it was on to Iraq, to steal their oil by right of might! The Bible tells us that innocent spilled blood on the ground has an audible voice in God's ear. And it DEMANDS vengeance! Vengeance shall be mine sayeth the Lord. So how 'bout it Lord?! You've got the blood of 3,000 innocent people screaming in your ear! And that's just from the initial false flag event! After that, how many more innocents died in their sacrifice to their god, spelled as an acronym, meaning G.old, O.il and D.ope? I pray nightly for the VIOLENT death of all those bastard rats with innocent blood on their hands from that pile of crap! Please join me.

thank you for saying what really happend

What would have made a difference was Yamato’s heavy armor, capable of tanking Iowa’s guns within 9.3 to 15.4 miles

What also made the difference was yamato's 18 inch guns

@@Sk.ull._.Crusher Yep. Yamato could penetrate Iowa's armor at all battle ranges. Iowa could not do the same

@@metaknight115 why would Iowa take the hit? It can easily dodge the Yamato shells Yamato gun is overhyped, sure they have high caliber but they aint accurate

@@caa4118 Life isn't a world of warships match. Even if Iowa was that maneuverable, she couldn't just dodge enemy attacks and swerve back into firing position. She would need to say in firing position order to fight, like every other battleship. Yamato's guns were very accurate. At max range, they only had a shell dispersion of 300-400 yards. They fired the longest ranged possible hit ever fired, and hit a destroyer 6 times from 19,000 yards, and sank.

+Charles Hu It'd have to be fundraising or tax money oriented, but that'd be awesome.

+Charles Hu I would simply tell the government to shut up........and take my money.

Hey, better than wasting tax dollars on welfare checks for those who can't help themselves to work for what they need...

The Ugly Barnacle who cares most of them aren't trying hard enough.

Pretty damn expensive. They do not SAIL. They STEAM. Wind is free, diesel costs a hell of a lot of money.

She also has her guns raised, standing guard over the Arizona and her lost sailors souls

iowa bb61 was first into Tokyo for the peace signing

​@@onlythewise1that was the Missouri

​​@@knarfasoledyep, it was USS Missouri that commemorated the close of WW II. On her Starboard deck is a plaque commemorating the event by General Douglas MacArthur.

Leyte gulf war?

@@egggamingyt9272 No, I think during desert storm maybe, I dont know much about it

I was in 2 and 3 Fireroom from 86 To 90 Hole snipe. Best job ever May the boys rest in peace. BT3 Joe Garcia