NBAA 2022: Garmin's Turboprop Avionics

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There are plenty of aging turboprops in need of avionics upgrades and Garmin has a long and growing list of STC approvals for its retrofit flight displays, engine monitoring system, navigators and GFC 600 autopilot. Aviation Consumer magazine Editor in Chief and AVweb contributor Larry Anglisano caught up with Garmin's Dave Brown at the NBAA-BACE 2022 gathering in Orlando, Florida for a kiosk demo.

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@johnfriend862 Жыл бұрын

It would be nice, especially since he mentions the G1000 many times in this video, if they would still support the thousands upon thousands of G1000's out there. Garmin considers it a "legacy" avionics system, therefore no longer seems to care about owners or upgrades. For only about 45 thousand we can upgrade to the NXI, and get things like newer firmware and a Flightstream. Garmin is very proud of their products, too proud, and too quick to consider something obsolete. When it costs me $1,000 a year just for database updates (without charts) you know you're dealing with a company that's overpriced.

@Ibrahimarm Жыл бұрын

Garmin has always been this way, but there's almost no alternatives so the bigger planes are basically stuck with them lol Also, consider this from a business perspective. Releasing a new product and leaving no lifeline for the old ones is a great move since it forces people to upgrade instead of repairing things, thus driving up sales and revenue. It also cuts down on supplying parts (which cost money). This especially works in aviation where they have a near monopoly on certified glass products and many customers (plane owners or manufacturers like Cessna) have enough money to shell out for new stock.

@5150Lane Жыл бұрын

Now, if someone would work on getting the price of GA flying down to within reach of more people, I'd be satisfied.

@SolarWebsite Жыл бұрын

What do you think would be necessary for that? As a layman, it doesn't seem to me like an activity that could be made (much) cheaper without cutting some corners.

@jesusislukeskywalker4294 Жыл бұрын

@@SolarWebsite some say petroleum is amniotic . free flowing same as water. and others ask the question . why do General Electric make commercial jet engines. others say Tesla was all about free energy. and Elon musk looks like C-3PO with a wig.

@SolarWebsite Жыл бұрын

@@jesusislukeskywalker4294 Ehhh... Ok. Sure, man.

@experimental_av Жыл бұрын

Fly gliders

@SolarWebsite Жыл бұрын

@@experimental_av Why stop there? Fly model airplanes. I did that for years and it can be pretty affordable 😉

@VictoryAviation Жыл бұрын

Touch screen… finally. And not just the smaller touch screens down below.

@skenzyme81 Жыл бұрын

Kids these days. My Wright Model B gets by on the original sundial just fine.

@zorbakaput8537 Жыл бұрын

Ok ifyou only ever fly north

@kohersh Жыл бұрын

Wonder which will sell more for the KA200 once the GFC600 AP is available …. Could shrink the momentum of the NXi makeovers. Wonder what functionality would be lost? that HI275 is also such an incredible instrument

@markturner7229 Жыл бұрын

Is there a temperature / humidity range the touch panel need to be to work

@Ibrahimarm Жыл бұрын

If it's not listed in the specs, it's probably in the manual. I doubt it matters though considering most turboprops come with heat and AC.

@ozziepilot2899 Жыл бұрын

Garmin rocks :)

@DanFrederiksen Жыл бұрын

Mess of awful small poorly integrated units with cluttered 1990 level game style graphics. When it should obviously be one unit with a vastly bigger screen. And none of that awful tape legacy clutter or compass rose. How is it so hard for them to see the obvious. Grossly overpriced as well. The G600txi itself is a 27k$ unit. The GTN750 is a 19k$ unit. Massively redundant functionality between them yet why integrate them when foolish pilots sheepishly pay more when it's multiple units. And installation is s defense research project in itself so this lowtech solution might be 150k before you are done? Jesus.

@johnfriend862 Жыл бұрын

I like how he said do "dual 750's", cool install but why would you do dual 750's? Or even this mock up panel with a 750 & 650? Only one can control the auto pilot or G600. Redundancy is nice, but why to that extent? It looked like there was nothing the G600 couldn't do, I don't see why the 750 was even necessary. Unless the G600 was just a secondary slaved display for the 750, and why would that be necessary? You still do need a com 2, but there are lots of less expensive choices for that than another GTN.

@DanFrederiksen Жыл бұрын

@@johnfriend862 radio should be in the main unit. absolutely no reason to have separate units. radio is dirt cheap to do today and tiny. think about what a smart phone is capable of. avionics is still willfully stuck in 1990s discrete large electronics blocks thinking. never mind the grotesque pricing, it results in a mess of wiring as well so they are willfully inflicting huge burden on all planes. They are either extremely incompetent or intentionally hampering GA. Neither is elegant.

@Ibrahimarm Жыл бұрын

You have to recoup certification costs and turn a profit with low-volume production at the same time someway... Also, the dual GPS setup is for the radios while getting GPS redundancy. The Piper Warrior IIIs at my flight school all have dual GNS 430Ws despite only needing 1 for GPS functionality and I'm pretty sure we got those planes new lol Also, what's wrong with having extra MFDs? They're versatile and getting them this new means no upgrades for the next 15 to 20 years... Then again, I'm not a turboprop owner and I'm sure neither are you. They actually have the money to spend on this stuff.

@DanFrederiksen Жыл бұрын

@@Ibrahimarm it's the same prices for small planes. when they do garbage products for insane money it keeps GA trash. it's trash because everyone is holding on to overpriced trash.

@Ibrahimarm Жыл бұрын

@@DanFrederiksen No one buys G600s for small planes, they buy the G3X which is like 3x cheaper lmao Also, there are likw 4x cheaper options for GPS and radios that do the same thing as a 750