Nottingham Forest have 'overstepped the mark' with PGMOL statements | Premier League | NBC Sports

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Rebecca Lowe, Robbie Earle, and Tim Howard have a roundtable discussion regarding Nottingham Forest's surprising statements regarding PGMOL's role in their loss to Everton in Matchweek 34. #NBCSports #PremierLeague #NottinghamForest
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Nottingham Forest have 'overstepped the mark' with PGMOL statements | Premier League | NBC Sports
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@brandonturley1293
@brandonturley1293 12 күн бұрын
It's been all season long. VAR is broken. This needed to be done. Someone has to make a stand.
@AItakover
@AItakover 11 күн бұрын
you mean to say the officials morals are broken and the technology is fine.
@joestockton7016
@joestockton7016 11 күн бұрын
Literally nobody thinks they overstepped the mark…except the media.
@tenerifereddog3943
@tenerifereddog3943 11 күн бұрын
It’s every media channel ffs.
@wildernesswolff9350
@wildernesswolff9350 11 күн бұрын
I think they have a case, but their initial public statement was pretty inappropriate
@AdamMalster
@AdamMalster 12 күн бұрын
'overstepped the mark'? Rubbish. Sort the officiating out so we can enjoy the game again.
@itzgmedmr9iceguy513
@itzgmedmr9iceguy513 12 күн бұрын
So what about turn it the other way, PGMOL overstepped the mark with Nottingham Forest, come on man 3 stonewall penalties no one of them given, I can understand how a club that fighting relegation would feel to worse that
@prodfalling
@prodfalling 12 күн бұрын
the thing is that they weren't all stonewall pens. only one was truly egregious, the third one no doubt should have been given. the other two were debatable, with similar plays going one way or the other on occasion. the issue is that forest is trying to accuse the league of corruption without much evidence really. they can and probably should be upset, but they just look whiny by doing this
@Rowandgs
@Rowandgs 11 күн бұрын
@@prodfalling”only one” as though it wouldn’t be the headline for DAYS if Liverpool lost to Everton because of ONE penalty shout? Get real. All the arguments about the other two not being pens are a joke. Put Young on the goal line when he handles the ball and no one would argue. Move him three yards to the left and suddenly he “has” to run with his arms in the air, natural position and all that other bollocks. The fact of the matter is that people are desperately searching for reasons that they weren’t mistakes instead of asking the question: would each of those pens have been given if they came against the top 6 clubs in separate matches? I think they’d all have been given. Only reason they weren’t is because refs are allowed to subjectively interpret the rules. Something that is OBJECTIVELY not allowed in any other sport. It’s ruining the game.
@robertilardi6290
@robertilardi6290 12 күн бұрын
Forest was honest the game was terribly officiated.
@philipmarkham3
@philipmarkham3 12 күн бұрын
Flip it around. Are we saying that under NO circumstances can a club question the integrity of the refs….? No circumstances at all? Clearly Forest felt it was warranted under these circumstances
@numform8318
@numform8318 12 күн бұрын
Freedom of speech shouldn’t be punishable especially when the club has substantial concerns. PGMOL is gradually becoming a god.
@williepeace
@williepeace 11 күн бұрын
The officiating has been shambolic all season. A team calling that out shouldn't be dragged for calling that out. NBC shouldn't be in league with the refs. The Robbies have been off the plot for a few years now. Need new pundits.
@robertnegron9706
@robertnegron9706 11 күн бұрын
They are paid to support the league. It’s obvious they are bias. Some of the questionable Calls. Non calls. And var inconsistent calling is shameful. Screams corruption . The money flowing in this and other leagues is enormous. Refs are not perfect but if the whole stadium sees the obvious but var is not involved then something needs to be adjusted.
@lukew6725
@lukew6725 11 күн бұрын
It's not them necessarily, this is the narrative that all the big media companies are pushing, the higher ups are clearly forcing them to defend the PGMOL.
@williepeace
@williepeace 10 күн бұрын
@@robertnegron9706 I more adhere to the philosophy to expect incompetence before malice, but even then, you can’t get mad at people calling out incompetence.
@robertnegron9706
@robertnegron9706 11 күн бұрын
1984 is here. Can’t question big brother.
@erik-sandberg
@erik-sandberg 12 күн бұрын
Robbie Earl said on Sunday that if it were true that forest warned PGMOL beforehand, it would be “very big news”, but now he’s seemingly changed perspective and is putting blame on Forest. Was he told not to take that side of the argument? Perhaps his opinion just changed too. Weird though
@thanekrios3211
@thanekrios3211 12 күн бұрын
It was the same with the Liverpool/Tottenham debacle. Both Neville and Carragher were talking about how terrible it was at the time and then 24 hours later criticized Liverpool for complaining about it. It's basically their paymasters (the broadcaster) keeping them in line to protect the product.
@playnice5330
@playnice5330 12 күн бұрын
His words go into the direction of the paychecks he’s after
@numform8318
@numform8318 12 күн бұрын
Some of these journalists embolden PGMOL. I stand with Forest. My Liverpool should have done the same when they gave our points to Tottenham. Shame!!
@lukew6725
@lukew6725 11 күн бұрын
​@@thanekrios3211Tbf, the optics of how Liverpool and Klopp handled that was far worse given that they were advocating for replaying the whole game due to just one mistake. Not saying it wasn't an equally bad call, but I can understand why someone would change their opinion on it.
@saylortusk8489
@saylortusk8489 11 күн бұрын
"It is difficult to make a man understand something when his salary depends upon him not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair. NBC pundits, we see you.
@evanmurphey
@evanmurphey 11 күн бұрын
Not really, everyone is tired of the inconsistencies every single game with VAR. Nottingham is standing up to this nonsense
@jamiegambell
@jamiegambell 11 күн бұрын
Weird how your highlights video doesn’t show any of the incidents…
@flashgordon3350
@flashgordon3350 11 күн бұрын
they can't because of copyright use.
@jamiegambell
@jamiegambell 11 күн бұрын
@@flashgordon3350 they showed the game. I watched it on their station. They have the rights.
@DontBeStatusQuo
@DontBeStatusQuo 11 күн бұрын
@@flashgordon3350 huh? they show the highlights of every game. they have the rights. they chose not to show the penalties because everyone knows they were penalties and the refs/VAR really dropped the ball.
@mirandaal4541
@mirandaal4541 12 күн бұрын
NFFC is right about the need to amend the rules to account for contextual rivalries. Imagine if an Arsenal fan is appointed to officiate this Thursday’s game between Brentford and Man City!
@Jack-wh2rr
@Jack-wh2rr 12 күн бұрын
I've unsubscribed and will never watch NBC sports again. These pundits are clearly incentivized to support PGMOL no matter what. The integrity of the game is gone and these idiotic referee mouthpiece of "pundits" are simply helping degrade the game further.
@nmichael2826
@nmichael2826 12 күн бұрын
These clowns talking badly about Nottingham asuf nottingham is wrong
@ausleyl6151
@ausleyl6151 11 күн бұрын
No they haven’t, when hundreds of millions of dollars are on the line, there is no line to overstep
@andrewleivers7686
@andrewleivers7686 12 күн бұрын
So we all agree that they were penalties if not at least 2 of them. We also all agree that forest did definitely contact the pgmol to voice their concerns that a var member that day was a luton fan and that it could be a conflict of interest. We also know pgmol denied their request. We all know that is what forest have said in that statement. They haven't accused var of bias. They have accused the pgmol of not doing their job and their concerns have pretty much been confirmed with 3 penalties not given by var. Please tell me how the pundits can't see how pgmol the ref and var is in the wrong at all points. I'll tell you what happens soon and why ex players/pundits are going against forest. Because they are going to bring in ex players as pgmol refs. They are already training them up and they are all looking out for their own interests. Not football and the fans. It just adds another job to ex footballers that didn't earn enough. Mark my words its coming soon.
@kakashi0429
@kakashi0429 11 күн бұрын
VAR is not doing it. Forest is 💯 right
@amirirani-tehrani9749
@amirirani-tehrani9749 12 күн бұрын
You are all on the payroll. I’ll just watch the games. I’m done with these “pundits”. There’s nothing you can tell me, the two PGMOLs… you’re just bricks in the wall. The game is corrupt, and all can see it… except those whose job depends on toeing the line…
@normanseaman6397
@normanseaman6397 11 күн бұрын
Pgmol are overstepping the mark not forest, forest have been on the wrong end of bad decisions all season with nothing done about. Pgmol are overstepping the mark with too many extremely dodgy decisions. Toon fan
@sanidityrantofficial5848
@sanidityrantofficial5848 11 күн бұрын
You people are act like it doesn’t bother you. it’s supposed to bother you. all of this decision is made in one game and they don’t have the right to have an opinion or outburst. That’s mental you former players don’t have to deal with the VAR that much so it don’t bother you because you think it’s fair. it’s what the referee sees what he call. They introduced VAR to improve the game and it’s not that’s a problem. You can talk about the way they go about it, but it’s frustrating.
@WilkoSuave
@WilkoSuave 11 күн бұрын
“These things happens in football” These pundits lol
@bodidiikinda3948
@bodidiikinda3948 12 күн бұрын
PGMOL who ? Why are they given so much power ? No wonder they do whatever they want
@playnice5330
@playnice5330 12 күн бұрын
They’re now called PGLOL
@v0n1b0
@v0n1b0 11 күн бұрын
Marinakis is a loose cannon. No way that Tweet was released without his blessing. He has been at the center of controversy in the Greek league for years including being investigated for match fixing, a stadium ban in 2021 for abusing a ref and most recently stepping down as president of the Greek league last December. With a point deduction for PSR looming, is this a ploy by Marinakis to be able to blame some of the deduction on the Tweet in order to appeal?
@tenerifereddog3943
@tenerifereddog3943 11 күн бұрын
Forest are already going through the appeal process for the points deduction and of course he would be aware of the Tweet.
@sholabakare4281
@sholabakare4281 12 күн бұрын
I stopped watching this clowns of a pundit my foot. They switch like a weather. Am disappointed in this guys how is that overstepping their bounds. Very sad
@tomshif
@tomshif 11 күн бұрын
Even Darwin misses the woodwork occasionally and finds the back of the net, you'd think the VAR could do the same get a call right occasionally. But I'm not holding out hope that these pundits every do.
@robinhood007
@robinhood007 11 күн бұрын
Come on guys!!!! Think about what you are saying!!! A Luton fan is VAR for this crucial game? Sure?
@VDD-2766
@VDD-2766 11 күн бұрын
Freedom of speech has no line. Maybe if the PGMOL was listening properly during all the other incidents this wouldn’t be escalating?
@djonan
@djonan 12 күн бұрын
Disagree. After no red for Nicolas Jackson stamp today (on Tomiyasu) or the non-call on Grealish in Man City v Chelsea in FA Cup. The PGMOL is broken and someone needs to call them out.
@user-yl5ld6np1o
@user-yl5ld6np1o 12 күн бұрын
As a life long NFFC, I want to go back to the EFL Championship, less corrupt than the Premiership.
@playnice5330
@playnice5330 12 күн бұрын
Corruption can be infectious but agreed that the Championship is a quality competition With so many teams there having been in the old First Division, the Championship has a historic quality. It also feels more real. What football should be
@tenerifereddog3943
@tenerifereddog3943 11 күн бұрын
Whilst I agree to some extent the ultimate goal is to get out of the Championship and back to the Premiership. It’s a vicious circle.
@bigmart8632
@bigmart8632 11 күн бұрын
If referees did their job properly and var was run by competent persons NFFC wouldn't have had to draw eyes to the problems we can all see. If it's not corruption the it is incompetence of the highest order. Everyday people lose jobs over less incompetency than shown by the PGMOL but no one is allowed to question this?
@mikeyboy67
@mikeyboy67 12 күн бұрын
We have doing the PR game all season it's taken something like this to bring it to the . . . Well this
@yevanterrien1713
@yevanterrien1713 11 күн бұрын
"Contextual rivalries". What a load of nonsense. Refs make mistakes, players and managers do too, we do not accuse them of being cheats when they mess up. You can criticize calls without throwing out wild accusations and indulging the paranoia of football fans.
@phil291254
@phil291254 11 күн бұрын
You question when actions become obvious on more than one occasion and for different teams ….. big six seem to be treated better ££££££
@qantumbutter8219
@qantumbutter8219 11 күн бұрын
Premier League officiating is woeful. It is inconsistent at best and VAR seems to highlight the human error it was instituted to minimize. It is certainly not up to the level of PL managing and playing. I'll start watching La Liga or Serie A.
@snow38385
@snow38385 11 күн бұрын
All 3 of you should be ashamed of yourselves. There are plenty of refs to cover the games. Oliver has given interviews in the past saying that he has not been allowed to referee games in relegatiin battles when New Castle were in relegation. The 3 of you and NBC are a disgrace.
@lordblimp9410
@lordblimp9410 11 күн бұрын
Overstepped the mark 😂 either its corruption or both ref and var officials need to be sacked because all them mistakes is criminal
@karaEL19
@karaEL19 10 күн бұрын
Read the room, if you did you would know that most football fans do not buy the nonsense you're spewing. No one should be beyond reproach.
@davidlamers874
@davidlamers874 10 күн бұрын
Sonos Americans will just start calling you the mini NFL with the way they do their replays... Only two games unless you're perfect then you get a third so if they f*** you four times but you were bent over already
@johnlawrance5387
@johnlawrance5387 9 күн бұрын
nbc use your own eyes not your script jb nottingham uk
@DTM4581
@DTM4581 11 күн бұрын
Former Wimbledon player ere 😂
@MV-xh4ty
@MV-xh4ty 11 күн бұрын
These pundits are a fucking joke.
@showman1438
@showman1438 11 күн бұрын
But they complained!!!
@kumarannamalai680
@kumarannamalai680 5 күн бұрын
All these guys just taking care of their own pockets. Who cares about football. Whats the price again?
@joestockton7016
@joestockton7016 11 күн бұрын
Unsubscribed
@johnlawrance5387
@johnlawrance5387 9 күн бұрын
F.O.S
@Isaac-qu3wl
@Isaac-qu3wl 10 күн бұрын
this is why we don't listen to americans about football...
@flashgordon3350
@flashgordon3350 11 күн бұрын
Forest sour grapes, they got spanked by Everton. Ref was right on all three. If you see the third one, Young makes a touch with the ball but its hard to see due to the camera angle, and the Forest player trips on the ball as it rolls. The ref saw this clearly. Forest CEO a joke. Also, how would Luton gain an advantage??? Everton are almost just as close to Luton in the table! Forest should get points deducted for this behaviour.
@tenerifereddog3943
@tenerifereddog3943 11 күн бұрын
How would Luton gain an advantage? Is that a serious question?
@JMartinM_AZ
@JMartinM_AZ 11 күн бұрын
They need to stop crying over questionable decisions.
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