Mate. What is this going to achieve? What has being professional before achieved. Something has to change and I'm glad Forest have said something. We can't just keep ignoring incompetence

Embarrassing from Pgmol and media personalities to support these idiotic decisions. Utter disgrace.

I’m an Everton fan and I admire what Forest have just done. They are right, no matter what, they warned the PGMOL that the VAR was a Luton fan and as such, they should never be appointed for this game. It’s disgraceful.

Big up Forest it was time someone started taking action against these idiots

Why can’t Forest imply a fix? How long can the pundits keep blaming this on incompetence? The third penalty claim cannot be incompetence!

Forest have made a strong stand and it makes sense.

*STOP PROTECTING THESE MATCH FIXING REFS*

That was cheating and they have the right to complain. We are not in the colonial era where people should be afraid to complain for fear of retaliation

This happened to Leeds a couple of weeks ago, two clear penalty’s denied and yet what happened ? The ref got promoted to the Premiership the following week. WTF is going on.

Refs are so inconsistent knowing that the Pgmol are scared to realise the decisions were incorrect. Forest had the right to call them out.

"They" didnt bottle it, the refs did

3 penalties not given is definitely not a coincidence. This clear & obvious error rule is stupid as it can be interpreted in so many different ways. An error is an error plain & simple, why complicate things.

“I don’t understand what VAR did”. They simply ensured that Forest would lose the match. That’s what they did. This is not complicated. Forrest is duty bound to point out this level of officiating incompetence in the game.

Forest were cheated. Let's say it as it is. Even a five year old kid could have got those decisions right

*Might* be a Luton fan? Do your research he IS a Luton fan, Pundits my arse.

Don’t matter if the ref didn’t give it, var would have still overturned it.

I dont know why pundits etc knocking Forest as they were staying facts. We heard from former refs and even Michael Oliver that if you have a affiliation with a club or family members do then you dont ref those clubs.

The ref & VAR didn't bottle it. They just followed orders

Football is corrupt on and off the pitch .

We hear "he got the ball" every week in football. Where is that in the laws of the game that if you get the ball, something isn't a foul? It's probably the most ridiculous phrase in the game. Getting the ball doesn't excuse a foul. Ever.

This saga just further proves how out of touch the media, pundits and organisations are from the public, who keep the whole system running.

A penalty was given against wan bisaka against Coventry in the FA cup semi final for ball to hand and it’s quite clear wan bisaka tried to pull his trailing arm in. This was not the case with Everton

Was this the FA’s way of giving Everton a win for having deducted them points?????

As a Forest fan, our reaction on Twitter was a bit embarrassing, however it's quite literally week in and week out we get F'd by VAR

How can they say it wasn't in Lutons best interest that forest lost?!?!😂

Both Everton and Forrest have been unfairly treated by the league this season and would otherwise probably be safe. It seems like the more money a club has the more you can get away with braking the rules . . . Why has say the likes of Man City lost points?

Why there are no highlights of incident of the game against Everton. Look for it everywhere but cannot find one.

Forest are 12 points worse than Everton. Everton are better than Forest and Luton. Clear. For this reason alone, smart Luton fans know that dragging Forest into the relegation mix is better than dragging Everton in.

When you see cheating or being kind, bias, you call it out. Are Refs and VAR above scrutiny. Murphy talking sense!

17 incorrect decision this year. 8 have lead to draws and one loss. All by one goal. We get half of those decisions weee safe. On average 1 incorrect decision every 2 games for Forest.

A bizarre situation WTF. This was obviously going to happen sooner or later.

If a supposedly competent referee makes what is generally agreed as 3 wrong decisions out of 3 penalty calls, one must question his integrity, as what other factor is there? Attwell & his family support Luton Town - thus denying Forest a win or a draw, assists Luton Town.

Football media is so bad it’s easy to see forest frustration clearly getting bad decisions to often but the handball was shown by VAR many times and didn’t give penalty it’s blatant why is this and the fouls not being taken about at all it’s a joke

If I’m in the bottom 3. It’s obvious I want the team 1pt above to lose! Can’t believe this ain’t understood.

*People of the future:* On this day in 2024, corruption and double-standards were rife in Premier League football. On this day in 2024, despite some initial humiliation, Nottingham Forest became the official voice of sporting integrity. On this day in 2024, sporting fans around the world united forces to hold professional sporting organisations and pundits accountable for double-standards and corruption.

How scared are TV personality’s to go against the PGMOL? What is going on genuinely. How many years of this do we have to go through. Newcastle fan here but the arsenal arteta situation, Liverpool tweet, this one.

Welcome to the world of Everton this season!

The difference between official corporate media outlets and fans is startling and suspicious.

Why not just say cheating officials, one or two games is incompetent but few decisions every couple of weeks

Let's face it, there's definitely a possibility of corruption at play! Why would referees be immune to game rigging especially when huge bets are waged?!

This is the same Nottingham Forest that publicly celebrated VAR for not giving 2 stonewall penalties against them in the play off final? 🤔

Oh guess what the third one wasn’t even checked. Even though sky sports said LIVE check over.

Danny Murphy might not being completely honest here. When he played Howard Webb refereed. It was widely believed on the terraces that he was Fergusson's favourite referee. And strangely now heading PGMOL in a year that has been a complete disgrace. If there was no bias in the Everton v Forest game then the answer is total incompitence. VAR is not the problem, it is the officials that are the problem. And since when do you allow officials to moonlight in Qatar, picking up huge wages from a country that owns a premiership club, seriosuly? No potential conflict of interest there 🙄

In rugby the referee and video referee consult each other openly with spectators hearing . Why that doesn’t occur in football is a mystery to me. It suggests VAR and referee can collude to change the outcome of the game in favour of one team or the other!!! What else do they have to hide?

I think the 14 clubs that are not with elite six, should leave the premier elite league and leave the six to play each other every week . And 14 start again in a new league called the fair play league.

VAR needs to be removed, it was supposed to fix errors but seems it creates even more with insane amounts of stoppage time going into double figures. The other divisions manage to survive without it fine...why exactly is it needed??

2 FA Cup semi-finals at Wembley.....Chelsea no pen for a hand ball, Coventry pen for a handball a day later. Very dodgy.

Var didnt even check the third penalty. That's how bad it is.

Chelsea fans has been complaining about this referee for like forever!!! There's something going on!

THREE decisions go against Forrest who warned pre-match that a Luton fan on VAR might be a problem for their survival chances, are told to apologise for stating the facts after that happened exactly. 😯😯😯 Guaranteed they'll get fined for it too. You only get away with that kind of talk if you're a top six club 🤷

Everyone should hear the audio, it's a smarter move.

They didn't bottle it. Guaranteed if pep or klopp were screaming at them it would have been given

Rematch

The problem is the "clear and obvious error" rule. The VAR is a qualified referee and should be able to make these decisions. The referee should also be able to say "I don't have a good angle on this" and let VAR decide. That would also serve to save time from the ref running to the screen every time.

This is what is needed, some of the "inconsistencies" are either A. Bias or B. Incompetence, either way that means change is needed to make things fair

No point in declaring allegiance as a referee. You can always claim your professionalism outweighs any allegiance. However the choices you make subconsciously can’t be recognised by a person so it is a flawed argument to claim professionalism. Leaving all that to one side, it is clear that the PGMOL like all institutions will protect its own first. Even if fellow refs agree some decisions maybe wrong, there are no consequences of any value that comes from making mistakes as a ref. You are told to forget it and move on whilst clubs and fans pay for their mistakes

Every team's set of fans have been there. You wonder if the VAR guy has fallen asleep or something. I remember a midweek merseyside derby a number of years ago at Anfield when VAR should have sent off Trent, Robertson and Van Dijk. The first two should have gone for violent conduct stamping on opponents. Van Dijk was last man of defence pulled down the Eveton forward in the box. No penalty and no red card. To make such a big fuss about just two games when it happens to so many other clubs usually outside the top six baffles me. Also nobody at MOTD was prepared earlier in the season to speak out about the hate speech Rodri received from a Forrest player at the Etihad. A few penatly claims seem to be more important than calling out hate crimes on the pitch.

The sooner they release rhe audio footage, the better. If they don't, it just makes them look even more guilty.

A lot of discussion about Forest and Everton having points deducted for financial reasons. No mention at all of the 12 points Forest have lost this season due to diabolical refereeing decisions, and that's before this match kicked off. Now this. Forest are 100% correct to start saying something if they have to abide by financial regulations which are unreasonable at the outset (put in place to protect the top teams who managed to build their empires before the regs were applied), the very least we as fans have a right to expect is that the refereeing structure is at least functional. My suspicions of there being political reasons behind this (everything in English culture is being broken down because we voted to leave the EU) appear to be proven correct the more I see happening every day. Simon Jordan attacking Forrest for "questioning someone's integrity" only has a point if that someone/system can respond by proving that they have sound integrity and leaving Forest with egg on their face. As it is, Forest will be attacked by PGMOL and the PL for saying what they've said, if only to act as a smokescreen for the fact that this has been, once again, a cockup of monumental proportions that they are going to try and teflon their way out of. How many unbiased amateur supporters, had they been in the VAR seat, would have let these penalties go? It is extremely fortunate that we don't have to play Luton again this year.

Everybody is just bribed

These pundits are doing my head in saying Forrest can't complain about either blatant cheating, or monumental incompetence, of course they can.

At least Phil is brave enough to say it’s a penalty.

I stand with forest

I'm on Nottingham forest side

Ashley Young throwing his hands up in the air gave away his guilt for the first. The second has been given nearly all season and changing interpretation now is not justifiable. The third tells you just how poor the VAR process is. The richest league in the world with the worst officiating.

None of the penalty claims were as clear and obvious mistakes as the one Huddersfield were denied in the playoff final!! Don’t hear Forest banging on about that.

Taylor and Oliver do not get questioned by their colleagues

Not sure why Luton would have wanted a draw. Everton had a point more, a game in hand and an easier run in. They may even be safe by the time they play Luton.

This to me was total incompetence by var operator frit to pull up pitch ref to re study film of replay - to much respect or fear of repercussion of bringing it up……..

Forest are 100% correct

Mark Clattenburg: A ref who never understood the advantage rule. Palace fan.

They bottled it? Maybe they just didn't have a coping mechanism and turned directly to taking drugs, Danny?

Forrest got into the premier league because of VAR, they can get kicked out because of it 🤣

I do not blame Nottingham forest for actual The. We’ve had this all season all the problems with the Premier League and the referee body. They’re so crop. I’ve been paid paid.

Clattenburg would say this he works for Nottingham Forest as an Everton fan I remain the Everton v Liverpool Derby when he sent 2 Everton players off and didn’t even care a Liverpool play for a tackle in the penalty area more akin with attempted murder than an illegal rugby tackle . . . This after spending 1:03 summer in USA and sharing a flight with the team. Having said this SKY’s X-ref Gallagher who was a much better ref than Clattenburg said only 1 out of the 3 were penaltues. If you want injustice try the fact Everton have had years upon years of being denied clear penalties. Just 2 given the whole season. Plus we had one year were had only 1 given on the last day of the season . . . It actually wasn’t a penalty but was given to cover up the facts as Everton had 9 clear penalties not given that season. Refereeing in English is a joke they do not know what they are doing and are bias more than the metropolitan police.

A club fighting relegation and one just comes out with an excuse of incompetence . Not a Forest fan but this is terrible for football. Its easy for everyone to say its shameful what Forest did but do understand one's situation with such injustice .

Not bizarre at all, is what all clubs should do if they are in the situation and end up like this but nobody talk about trying to be a world footbal league has to take everything in consideration including VAR and referee, la liga and bundeslinga are all over Premier league and they can complain about referee

Really crap defending by Forest, very lackadaisical, no urgency, allowed Everton far too much space. If they go down they have themselves to blame, crap management and very poor manager. By contrast, Dyche had his players well drilled, played with aggression and on balance they had a more skilled team.

"What do they expect from this?" Maybe change? Maybe better referring? Maybe listening to the fans and clubs?

If the game was played for no money it would be a bad decision. But the fact is football has silly amounts of money. The football authorities could apply lots of technology to make it 99% accurate. They don't. Anthony Taylor has the body language / mannerisms of someone who think he is always right.

VAR for goal line decisions only !! The game is being ruined !!

Who needs sympathy when? Change and proper officials are what’s needed

Well done to the owners

The PGMOL coming out and apologizing does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Both the title race and relegation battle is NULL AND VOID this season. EMBARRASSING from the referees. Both Liverpool and Nottingham Forest have been absolutely shafted.

It's not Nottingham forest it's a fan im football

Dragging Luton into this is bonkers. An Everton win is the last thing the Hatters needed as the toffees still have to go to the Kenny.

It's one of two things, either the PGMOL puts consistently incompetent refs in charge of decisions, which means they need to be stepped down or they are complicit in the biased decisions or lack thereof, which means they are corrupt.

Media talking heads wasting their time complaining about "integrity questions" - the questions have to be about how bad this VAR / Referee combo was. Eventually the crew get there to the REAL story. But the main host wants to bring it back to integrity because he's ... been paid to do so?? (WHAT - YOU CAN'T SAY THAT !!! )

Man City would have got 4 penalties there.

Why didn't Forest make it known BEFORE the game that they had mentioned that VAR was a Luton fan. ?

MATCHFIXING

VAR - is there for this reason - apology no good we want a replay - stinks of being cheated other than fact we played poorly anyway but these might of swayed game in our favour by first goal score - disgusting and these incompetents want to be made answerable -

Get a grip Forest. Your promotion to the Premier league was through a VAR disgraceful decision that went in your favour and even at your promotion parade thing, you were all laughing and singing about John Moss and Loving VAR. Also, this season at your place, Everton should have had a penalty against you when Coleman was clearly whipped out. What about the 4 points deduction too when Everton got a 10 points deduction and you only got 4 for a much worse breach?

Ex everton player comments ....ffs

What are you talking about? All three were definite penalties.

Bad for the game.. English top flight football is corrupt

City Football group owners employ PGMOL refs in Saudi pro league, while this might not technically be “corruption” (because for some inexplicable reason it’s allowed) it’s such a conflict of interest and so disturbing that the idea that these refs are biased, paid off, intentionally fixing games seems completely possible/likely. It will all be exposed eventually.

Poor decision making it effing terrible. Stop towing the line and say what everyone else thinks.

This is pure ridiculous, stop being biased. How can you protect wrong doings??

Young is a liability!