NCAA is Voting to Kill Expansion Big 12: Revenue Sharing Drops Iowa State, Houston, UCF and More

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Per reporting from Pete Thamel, sources indicate that the top-end revenue share number per school, once determined, would be approximately $20 million annually, although this remains unsettled. The leaders of college sports are involved in "deep discussions" to reach a legal settlement that would likely lay out the framework for sharing revenue with athletes in a future NCAA business model, sources told ESPN.
Texas A&M athletic director Trev Alberts recently told the Bryan-College Station Eagle that schools could be adding $15 million to $20 million to their budgets annually for what he termed a "new expense category" in college athletics. Whatever number is set by the settlement, individual schools will be able to opt in to share revenue up to that number with their student athletes at their discretion. (They could choose to share less, but not more.)
The NCAA and its power conferences are defendants in an antitrust class action lawsuit, House v. NCAA, which argues that the association is breaking federal law by placing any restrictions on how athletes make money from selling the rights to their name, image, or likeness. The case is scheduled to go to court in January 2025.
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@lastpme 26 күн бұрын

I blame this mess on ESPN…it is destroying college football with conference realignment.

@BallisticBevo 26 күн бұрын

You say that as if they forced the school you're a fan of. To take their money.

@jiacheng23 25 күн бұрын

I blame the NCAA. The reason this is happening is because college football has no leadership. If the NCAA wasn't completely inept then this wouldn't be happening.

@chadadams1127 16 күн бұрын

Texas has ruined every conference they have ever been in. The Big 12’s only hope is Texas ruins the SEC…

@Veretax 26 күн бұрын

What I don't understand is when you see this break up that may occur how it doesn't trigger Sherman Antitrust enforcement

@Spitfirethedragon 26 күн бұрын

Leaving the majority of schools out of this makes the power 2 a monopoly, and the house would get involved with anti-trust issues with the power 2. The Power 2 must share the wealth with the rest of FBS, or face more legal actions.

@SvdSinner 26 күн бұрын

Having the SEC and B10 face anti-trust regulations is my dream. Stopping the top teams from banding together and crushing the remainder to prevent competition is the exact scenario the spirit of these laws was written with.

@BallisticBevo 26 күн бұрын

You mean that same house that has been railing against socialism? 😂😂😂

@davidbrown386 26 күн бұрын

Maybe College sports becomes the Yankees and Dodgers compared to the Oakland A’s and Miami Marlins, but there have always been have and have nots. Look at Ohio State and Michigan football compared to Minnesota and Indiana. That however does not make it an anti~trust issue.

@Spitfirethedragon 26 күн бұрын

@@davidbrown386 What team is in the top 5 with the most wins since 2000 that is not in a P2? Boise State,, what you have is leaving out a lot of states that could kill their economy for the state and cities that the other teams are in.

@phays10 25 күн бұрын

No one is going to do anything about it. The networks run the sport now. They stick their arms up the ass of the sec and b1g to work their mouths like a puppet.

@jameslittles5228 25 күн бұрын

They will do anything to try keep Houston non relevant. But if your from Houston you know why. If you are not from Houston you don't have a clue to what I'm saying.

@ChaseEagleback 25 күн бұрын

So explain it.

@kennethcole2280 25 күн бұрын

@@ChaseEagleback Houston was so dominant at its entry to the Southwest Conference ( primarily because of the recruiting advantage it had by being in the city of Houston but also because of other factors such as being the first university in Texas to play black kids and the fact that it was the hottest job market in the U.S. It simply had too many advantages coming into a sharp focus point and that didn't sit well with a lot of people who had the power to slow things down. Unfortunately there were also UH people that took every opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot.

@kennethcole2280 25 күн бұрын

Sequel to recruiting advantage: When all of those other things were happening in Houston....the space program was "sexy as hell" and America's attention was just as focused on Houston and NASA as it is focused today on New York and the Trump trial or the mess at Columbia. Houston was "hot" in all the right ways.

@frontRunn3r587 26 күн бұрын

In order to save the village we had to destroy it-- ncaa

@Bob-gi9nt 25 күн бұрын

The 1987 NFL players strike killed my enthusiasm for NFL football. At that time I went on strike against the NFL and I've been on strike ever since. Interestingly, I don't feel like I've missed a thing. I don't watch or buy anything NFL so my money doesn't support their bloated salaries. I've even weaned myself off of the NBA. College became my go to for football and basketball. Sadly, college football is beginning to kill my enthusiasm too. If college football or basketball players ever go on strike I'll be done forever. Maybe sooner.

@kennethcole2280 25 күн бұрын

Well said Bob!!!! If my team and its relevant opponents didn't matter.....if I had only Big 10 or SEC games to watch....I might as well just watch Hallmark movies.

@SvdSinner 26 күн бұрын

If Louisville joins the B12, I will welcome a yearly Cardinal Clash between Iowa State and Louisville. The winner makes a video of their mascot body slamming the other team's mascot. Cy the Cardinal vs Louis the Cardinal. Mano e mano!

@joewanstate5553 25 күн бұрын

As a Louisville fan I support that.

@ldk13 25 күн бұрын

You might want to keep a close eye on Cy. Remember Iowa State is both a cardinal and cyclone (tornado). If Cy morphs into a tornado it's going to create some problems.

@davidethompson1271 24 күн бұрын

WVU - Pitt will be a restored rivalry. Louisville - Cincy seems like a natural rivalry than the faux Cardinal match.

@brandonunruh1822 25 күн бұрын

This kind of thinking is crap. I’m so sick of the “We are better than you” attitudes of the SEC and B1G. The reality is we were all on a pretty equal playing fields until the biggest brands were stolen from us and the PAC. And pretty much any Big XII team could compete with the majority of each conference still.

@hcopenhagenh 25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@goodnerarts1206 26 күн бұрын

Each P4 team receives revenue sharing of $30-60 Million/year. What are these schools doing with this money every year? They are spending every dollar and overextending beyond this budget - not to pay for football, but the entire athletics program. I don't get how they are blowing through this much money, and still begging alumni for more donations.

@skylersadventures 25 күн бұрын

Blowing it on non revenue sports. If this happens. Then most schools will ax all non revenue sports saving each school millions of dollars every year. With the ncaa powerless as well most schools will no longer recognize title 9 and women’s college sports will go by the wayside.

@goodnerarts1206 25 күн бұрын

@@skylersadventures All true. They are also blowing money on brand new hall of fame museums, indoor training pools, etc. OH, and tons of expensive administrators.

@MichaelSmith-xb5cp 25 күн бұрын

@goodnerarts1206 Stanford has 18,369 administrators and 17,529 students .....Apparently, it takes a lot of administration to manage an endowment larger than the GDP of half the nations on the planet. They sure aren't dealing with the insurectionists, they must be on summer vay kay already.

@goodnerarts1206 25 күн бұрын

@@MichaelSmith-xb5cp 😆😆

@hcopenhagenh 25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂there is no longer a P4. It is a P2.

@Paysoncougarfan.7885 25 күн бұрын

BYU will have to raise tuition by $400 per semester.

@richardkennedy7808 25 күн бұрын

Yes, and that is with 30,000+ students. Can you imagine the hit that smaller schools will take?

@KR-si3dx 26 күн бұрын

I want the Big XII to survive and thrive. The conference has never been more interesting than it is right now - a true "parity" conference of schools who are almost universally fun to watch. I am ambivalent on the plan to pay players - they deserve money but I don't think the plan should be designed in such a way so as to basically destroy all but maybe 40 or so schools.

@hcopenhagenh 25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 you said the Big 12 was interesting. Thanks for starting my day with a laugh.😂😂😂

@codyparsons6800 25 күн бұрын

I’d rather see the BIG12 & ACC break off and do there own thing. The TV Networks ,BIG10 and SEC are killing college football for the most part but if I’m being truthful this generation of kids have done the most damage. With the me me me it’s all about me mentality.

@paulluebke8692 25 күн бұрын

Jamie Pollard is the best AD in the league. He has also made great hires who routinely beat Gene Taylor’s great hires. 🤷🏻‍♂️😁

@Daniel-iw4zs 19 күн бұрын

Agreed

@MichaelSmith-xb5cp 25 күн бұрын

REVENUE: Let s sample a few d1 2024 annual revenues for all sports..... #1 TEXAS $200M for all sports NOTRE DAME $175M UGA $170M MICHIGAN $153M BAMA $147M DUKE $126M FSU $100M CLEMSON $94M UNC $88M BAYLOR $78M Stanford $76M VANDY $69M VA TECH $67M Go to college Raptor to see what type of sports revenue your school collects.....

@eersrus 25 күн бұрын

Sounds like a restraint of trade case that will cost mega bucks in Attorney fees.

@dirkpalmer1067 26 күн бұрын

Dont most schools keep their academic & athletic department monies fenced in separate pots? Not sure raising tuition is appropriate pot to pay.

@romanmoronie 25 күн бұрын

They absolutely should be separate including admin. Athletic department should also be paying rent for all school owned real estate (stadiums, fields, practice facilities, etc)

@edcummings9511 25 күн бұрын

This guy is too full of himself. Robbie who

@aBrewster29 23 күн бұрын

The “last pure college tradition” idea makes no sense. If the Big 12 can’t afford to keep up with the SEC/Big Ten, it’s much more likely they’d follow suit at a lower amount.

@KNIGHT-T1ME 25 күн бұрын

Keep college football pure

@jlamm2223443 25 күн бұрын

Boy does this guy have the ACC dead and buried.

@Veretax 26 күн бұрын

No Virginia Tech's head coach is Brent Pryor who used to be at Penn State and they're going through Growing Pains trying to fix the issues that Puente did now in basketball they've been pretty damn good women's basketball has been lights out this year

@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 5 күн бұрын

Why should Cincy have to pay their former athletes the same as Ohio State? Why is UH paying the same as Texas? It is already established that those big brands are worth far more than the middle weights. They get way more TV money than the middle weights. So why do they all have to pay their former athletes the same?

@ClarenceBanks-sh4xf 25 күн бұрын

Can we get a look at the NIL deal Robbie signed?

@curiousjon 25 күн бұрын

Whoa! What do you know about Gene Taylor that no one else does? The consensus in MHK is that he went to bat for the athletic dept but got shut down by Linton. He and Tang got closer.

@AncientWisdomUnveiledCDW 26 күн бұрын

Not all 5 star players pan out alot are busts

@darrylbrown8253 22 күн бұрын

Just goes to show you how much the Big 12 is missing Texas right about now.

@jadebarben8537 7 күн бұрын

Do G5 teams also have to pay 20 million a year?

@william53 25 күн бұрын

Love Rob’s attitude towards Big 12 competitive position.

@edcummings9511 25 күн бұрын

This interview is too much of a homie

@edcummings9511 25 күн бұрын

Bswview has the best fan base

@jonathanchess731 26 күн бұрын

Prioritizing basketball over media market seems silly.

@kmlammto 25 күн бұрын

WVU alum opinion: VA Tech is a good fit geographically, along with Pitt. Louisville and Cindy are geographic rivals so good fit. GA Tech brings in Atlanta TV market. UVA would be a better fit in Big 10.

@romanmoronie 26 күн бұрын

If tuition is raised one dime so some knuckledragger can play football there will be hell to pay. "So son, your school is up to it's eyeballs in debt because someone decided that semi pro football players should be paid. You gotta take out a bigger loan." ESAD with that. They better get better security.

@kmcc01 6 күн бұрын

Hey Big 12, not only was the A.C.C. better than you in basketball but baseball also. They are breaking up the wrong conference.

@kshaad9526 25 күн бұрын

They virtually would be paying all tv revenue to athletes. I doubt brands like TCU & Utah would agree to the big 12 venturing off and doing there own thing. They’ll join the big ten @ a reduce rate before they agree to those terms.

@davidbrown386 25 күн бұрын

Kansas Texas Tech Oklahoma st and probably ASU and BYU are no votes as well

@aisaxonawiat6484 24 күн бұрын

@@davidbrown386.... BYU could afford it, but they won't pay it.

@jeffmansell898 26 күн бұрын

No Stanford/Cal???

@MichaelSmith-xb5cp 25 күн бұрын

WHAT Does Virginia Tech bring in football? Are you actually serious football analysts? VATech is one of only about 15 teams that has won four Power conference Championship trophies in the last quarter century.....Here's how many teams in this summer's B12 that have won 4 power chips in 25 years....ZERO. ....perhaps TEXAS could be still included for a few more days... They've also won just 4.

@danielrhodes7594 22 күн бұрын

The college landscape and NIL is ridiculous! Last I heard the NFL's base salary is $400,000. Why should college athletes get more then that? All the athletes should get the same and stop all this shopping around for the best price.

@landisreed9488 6 күн бұрын

2024 minimum for an NFL rookie is 795 grand. If you have one year experience, it’s 915 grand minimum. Blue bloods can match that but the big12 can’t for sure. Big12 is a group of 5 with lifts in their shoes. Facts

@phillipanderson8067 25 күн бұрын

ALL THE TEAMS WITH BIG EAST TIES!! WVU has rivalries with virtually all of them!

@stephenscogin4465 25 күн бұрын

Business mondel... Why are institutions that main focus is education... are trapped into being a big time sports league

@somerandomdude1179 25 күн бұрын

So even though you acknowledge that football is the driving force you choose Gonzaga over Va tech because you don't know what they bring? I know by virtue of having football they'd bring in more that Gonzaga. They also have a rivalry with Wvu. I even think it's a trophy game. Likewise with Louisville and Cincy being rivals.

@lewis2871 25 күн бұрын

WVU v. Va Tech has the Black Diamond Trophy.

@AncientWisdomUnveiledCDW 26 күн бұрын

Recipe for diaster I smell lawsuits abound if they try to do this

@basementhorrorsreview 26 күн бұрын

You mention the Pitt vs WV rivalry but Pitt is rivals with Cincy also, it’s called the River City Rivalry.

@scarcheer7211 25 күн бұрын

How is this “Purest form of college football “ going to make this work? I think this isn’t going to happen…

@gentleman_dc 26 күн бұрын

The only scenario where byu loses out on the #1 recruit in the nation is this Mickey Mouse B.S. lol

@chrisg4931 26 күн бұрын

“What does Virginia Tech bring in football terms?” Wow, maybe have somebody on that’s over 35 years old, That has a little bit of history of just 20 years ago.?!! Just a bit of research here they played for national championship 25 years ago and they have four ACC championships in the span of seven years from 2004 to 2011! Yes, it’s been hard times for last 4 to 5 years, but look out this year!

@Ace0000087 25 күн бұрын

Iowa State can afford it. They made 111M last year.

@ldk13 25 күн бұрын

$114mil is what they made. $111mil was their total costs. That's barley breaking above even but not bad when most power conference schools end up in the hole.

@jeffmoyers7005 25 күн бұрын

Now you know why CyTown was put into motion. Folks that think ISU will be out, don’t have a clue.

@joshgrothues7871 25 күн бұрын

Add Texas State to the big 12

@equalizer1946 25 күн бұрын

Are u nurs or just plain stupid?

@corneliusdansbyjr6165 26 күн бұрын

The Big 12 is not getting North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Virginia, or Miami period........ maybe not even Duke

@frontRunn3r587 26 күн бұрын

No ACC team ever join the Big or sec...not enough value in any of them😂

@Patrick-sg7cm 26 күн бұрын

@@frontRunn3r587FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, and Miami add value to the B1G or the SEC.

@frontRunn3r587 26 күн бұрын

@@Patrick-sg7cm hate to burst your fan fiction bubble, but its been said many times by people in the business, including consulting firms, that there is not enough money to expand. Fsu and clemson simply are not big enough. Its funny because the message is loud and clear, however people just refuse to listen.

@Patrick-sg7cm 26 күн бұрын

@frontRunn3r587 If that's the case, then why are FSU and Clemson trying so hard to desperately get out of the ACC if they have no where to go? If they know there is no chance of landing in the SEC or the B1G, they wouldn't be spending millions in attorney fees trying to exit the ACC.

@Jbob37 25 күн бұрын

Because Virginia Tech is so good and valuable 😂🤣😂🤣😂

@corneliusdansbyjr6165 26 күн бұрын

Bye bye Big 12 well except Oklahoma State, Utah, Kansas, Kansas State, and Arizona 😆

@rx2878 26 күн бұрын

Currently the Colorado show market is their biggest brand & the big-12 fanatics hates them the Most...lol. Arizona State has to be with Arizona because Arizona as the Flagship alone doesn't even have the Phoenix Market.

@SvdSinner 26 күн бұрын

And you left Iowa State out of this why? Do you really think $1M is going to stop schools from continuing? Most schools have donors that would pay that $1M in a heartbeat if it threatened their Alma Mater from competing on the gridiron.

@JohnDry 26 күн бұрын

Munus Arizona because they are in debt, and add Texas Tech.

@dirkpalmer1067 26 күн бұрын

There are a lot more schools than that who will pay up. And, there will be some ACC schools going the Big XII if F$U is successful in leaving. Dominoes will again fall. Will they get the top schools leaving, probably not, but the big two aren't taking them all.

@phillipolsen1262 26 күн бұрын

There's no way ASU is going away

@thomasklug1294 11 күн бұрын

Just an FYI as a newbie to the Big12, and never being picked as a bride but always a bridesmaid, Cincinnati has more going on for it than you or most realize! First of all we now can, and are finally getting some of the talent that has traditionally been going to other power 5 schools, and with an alumni that spans 100+ years and a student population reaching 50K this academic year and projected 60K by 2030 it's a school that's been growing in leaps and bounds since going public right before I started there in 1977. Those numbers alone put us in the upper echelon of US Universities, and while I heard you talk about money coming into the school from past years sports teams, I expect that to expand as well especially in a good size market with many good local Corps as Cincy has. You heard it first right here, UC is a quiet giant that has been kept out of the Big10 by Ohio St (1+1/2 hour north), and the SEC by Kentucky (1+1/2 hour south), and others in the ACC and Big East etc, but we've had really good rivalries in the recent past with Pitt, and Louisville, WV and UConn etc., so there is no doubt in my mind that UC will be on a level playing field with all the others in the Big12 very soon. Will we be a top money school? That will be determined soon, but with a sub 45K Football stadium it might take a little more time, but we're selling it out on a regular basis, and when we're winning we're tough to beat at home. 40K sounds like 100K inside our 100yr old stadium! The future is bright here in Cincy where we make headlines as one of the best destinations to get a college degree with our 100K+ college students annually from schools like UC, Xavier, NKU, Miami OH, Dayton etc., and for history buffs we're still building on our one time designation as the 3rd largest city in the nation, and home to 5 US Presidents!!! What was once old is New Again!