This video will take you though the set up and use of a NCE Power Cab. Also show you how to change option key to access all 28 functions on a BLI loco.
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@wilsonbroughman850 Жыл бұрын
Good video I have had my powercab sitting in box for a year after watching this I feel ready to setup!
@randydobson18632 ай бұрын
Hello Grande pacific and i like your video is cool &THANKS & Friends Randy
@legodragonxp9 жыл бұрын
I bought mine today. This is the video that pushed me to it. Thank you!
@arthurhouston39 жыл бұрын
Todd WesternTransferFreight You are welcome contact me if you have a question.
@theshoe339 жыл бұрын
i Have been watching your video over this past week. my dad brother and i are setting up a Dcc ho layout using digitrax. I am designing my own layout for n -Scale and was planing to use DCC, but i didn't want to use the DIGitrax system and with your videos it has helped me choose NCE
@arthurhouston39 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Shoemaker Tyler the two systems are 90% of the business in US. Both are excellent. The Power Cab is Unique and will work great with an N scale layout. go to facebook.com/groups/ahouston3/ and join and will all be happy to answer questions.
@sps-700510 жыл бұрын
ha great video now I know what to look forward to I will be ordering one next month! and thanks and enjoy your videos. Subscribed!
@LastDragonLeroy4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.I was confused before.
@davidmuse13008 жыл бұрын
I just watched both pt. 1 and 2 of your video about setting up the NCE UTP panels. You have provided me with so much information. Now watching Power Cab set video. This is great!! Thank you for taking the time.
@steelbird659 жыл бұрын
Hey I wanted to Thank You for your video's . I just ordered my NEC Power Cab today from Model Train Stuff . I had a layout when I was a kid a 4x8 one . Starting up a new layout , the NEC system seem like a good one too expand on . Keep up the great video's lot's of good info for us newbies. This is my first layout using DCC I'm really excited the loco's sound great and look so much better than the ones I had in the 70"s .
@davidfromtexas968110 жыл бұрын
Great video Arthur. I've been looking at this system. I've seen conflicting reports about how many engines you can run simultaneously with the NCE Power Cab? I've heard anywhere from 2 to 5 to 8. I'd be interested to know your thoughts. Thank you.
@manolo60210 жыл бұрын
Great how to video. Need to get one of this. My old DCC system only has 4 functions and can´t consist engines.
@arthurhouston310 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can have a long cable from pcp or upt to controller. I have one that is 15ft.
@arthurhouston34 жыл бұрын
Now passed 10000 subscribers and 3 million views.
@arthurhouston34 жыл бұрын
To those that have an issue look it is up to over 77000 views. This is not going to change. OK. Moving on.
@AmtrakandAWVRFan10 жыл бұрын
Can you use the NCE system for DC trains too? I'm considering about buy this if it can run with DC train because most of my train i have are DC.
@arthurhouston310 жыл бұрын
You can run 4 new modern can motor locos. You can add a sb5 smart booster that will be 5 amps. The question is how large is layout and what do you plan on doing.
@davidfromtexas968110 жыл бұрын
Right now I just have a 4x8 layout and would run maybe two or three at once. I'm planning to expand in the future or even completely change to a around the walls layout but the NCE system seems very easily expandable and could suite my needs nicely it seems. Thank you for your advice and the wonderful videos!
@manolo60210 жыл бұрын
Great info. I´m using the Powercab and have a 20x1 switching layout. Sometimes the locos stall on the track. Do you think I need a booster or maybe put more track feeders?
@skipsterger221310 жыл бұрын
Manolo Csx
@arthurhouston310 жыл бұрын
Loco stalling, first clean wheels and track, oil wheel bearings. Get a LED 3mm put 1000 ohm. Resistor on it to insure you are getting voltage. This is test light. You need to insure you are getting juice to all parts of track. More feeders and soldering rail joiners will help. One engine running you do not need sb5.
@arthurhouston310 жыл бұрын
Power Cab will work great for you.
@another-freakin-game872010 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon. I am in a jam; I just received a Althern GP50 HO scale locomotive off Ebay that already has a digital address of #3150 programmed with the seller's NCE DCC programmer. I only have Bachmann's EZ Command DCC Controller that only provides single (#1-9) digit addresses. I spoke to Train World in Brooklyn, called Bachmann and NCE ... none could help me. If I purchase a NCE Power Cab starter set, can I run that locomotive with the existing #3150 address?
@steves.5837 жыл бұрын
just started, thanks for the grounds up explanation on this controller. it was highly recommended . What would power switch machines ? a separate transformer ?
@arthurhouston37 жыл бұрын
IF YOU CAN REACH THE switch I would use ground trough's caboose hobbies. If not then tortious Machines and a 12 vote DC power supply and simple mini switch DT
@StrangeRealityVlog9 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased the nce powercab. And im having some issues, I don't know if it is just the way it works or if I got a dud.? Sometimes when I power on the system is it normal for it to show a non existing cab address that does not exist nor have I ever programed it. Keep in mind I purchased the power cab brand new. I changed the clock to show track amps because I was having a lot of stalling and stopping... is it normal for the amps to jump up and down constantly. I also have been noticing that I will take the locomotives up to speed, and hit recall to adjust the other locomotive speed, hit recall again to go back and it shows all zeros and the only way to stop the train is to hit the EMERGENCY STOP. We called nce and the guy had us do program 5 x enter 12x to reset the system. That's about all the help they have been. Sorry so long. Just been frustrated. Thanks
@arthurhouston39 жыл бұрын
The cab address on the Power Cab when you start has to be 2. Will not work if not 2. Unplug power cab from PCP. panel. Hold down "select Loco" button and plug back in. Cab address should be flashing. Enter 2 press enter. next will come yard or normal press 2 again. Then go to bottom and press ESC/PROG button. and it un plug from PCP left RJ12 jack and plug back in. Should read 2 and the unit red light should come on and it should work if connected to a piece of track with DCC engine one it.
@alejandrobarba45796 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a little problem on my steam locomotive ho Broadway limited mikado 2/8/2. I use the same nce power cab but y have problem whit the sound on my engine all the sounds work good like bell whistle coat etcetera but when the engine stared on slow motion the chu Chu chu it doesn’t make the sound of the engine staring, like before i hope you can give my and advice of what could be or what I can possibly do thank you
@rjl1109195815 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR DETAIL VIDEO AS STILL USE SYSTEM ONE UNIT ALL OTHER PARTS KNOW UPDATE UNIT TO NEW NEC UNIT STILL RUN LAYOUT NO CHANGE
@arthurhouston35 жыл бұрын
Had lighting EMO and killed Proerhouse Command station. Pulled the System one out and it did the job until the newer system command station was repaired and returned.
@thegovna47838 жыл бұрын
what is that plug called that you put in the conector with the 18 or 20 guage wire what ever you said or where can i get one
@arthurhouston38 жыл бұрын
That plug comes in the box that you get with the total system. If you have lost one and need a new one PM my on FB and I will mail you one. Name Address and what we are taking about.
@StrangeRealityVlog9 жыл бұрын
When programming multiple locomotives should I always use 3 for the default short address? Or does it not matter because I use the long address. ?
@arthurhouston39 жыл бұрын
I always program all of my loco short address to 3, I only use long address on side of engine. it must be min of three number and must be higher than 130. This has to do with consist numbers on NCE system.
@StrangeRealityVlog9 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Nerfball67 жыл бұрын
Did I hear you correctly that you can only have ONE UPT panel daisy chained off the original PCP Panel? I bought my PowerCab thinking I could daisy chain numerous additional panels around my layout and move or use additional cabs in other locations..
@arthurhouston37 жыл бұрын
Yes you can only have one addition UPT panel after the PCP panel. It is a power thing. It is what the system was designed for. Small layouts.
@thesteimerboyskingsteimer61807 жыл бұрын
Are you going to know what the Yard mod
@arthurhouston37 жыл бұрын
Yard mod is were the control knob has center point roll one direction engine goes forward and roll past center and the engine goes backwards. Have never used it in 20 years. You set it as step when you change or set cab number.
@tracymitchell40109 жыл бұрын
Hi Arthur, Thanks for your videos and I have subscribed! I recently purchased the NCE Powerhouse Pro r (wireless 10 amp DCC system, so hope you don't mind helping me if that's OK?> I purchased this system recently, and just now got a chance to start testing it with a couple different decoders (the one included with the system NCE D408SR & a ESU LokSound XL V4.0). I am modeling G Scale LGB & Bachmann Spectrum locos and have isolated 2 moguls so far in order to install DCC decoders Problem is that it seems to be auto reversing as if the booster is treating the track like it is a reverse loop (and I have the switch set to normal on the booster), yet I am not using a loop but rather a 48 inch section of LGB track for testing purposes. o my bench (and have already experienced a run away due to the system resetting and then auto-reversing the loco direction. Sometimes I will turn on the system and instead of moving in the forward direction, instead will be going in reverse, even though when I last powered off the system it was set to forward (again acts like the booster has auto reversed the track power)? Sometimes while operating, it will seem to auto switch to the opposite direction, but this seems to be happening more in Wireless operation, and I have set/programmed the loco to not use DC, but DCC only.. Not sure if it is in the Pro Cab hammer head control throttle that is the problem, or if its in the booster or command station, but have noticed when the reset occurs the Pro Cab LCD screen with flash the second screen of bootup before going to normal operation status...but again operation will be reversed and not corresponding to the correct orientation of train direction as compared to the controller normal operation. I have also noticed that when using it as wireless if I'm using yard mode (meaning I can use the encoder wheel to scroll forward and train will move in that direction until I scroll it backwards and it will find a center stop and if I continue in that direction it moves in reverse), It seems If I'm doing this and especially if scrolling back and forth rapidly, then I will see the Pro Cab Throttle LED show what looks like a momentary reset as mentioned above...like when the system is first turned on 2nd screen...showing the software version, and then after that the direction controls will be reversed. And this will keep doing this as I keep using it. Again it is acting like something may be wrong with either the Pro Cab Throttle, the booster or perhaps even the wireless antenna box, or perhaps it may be in the Brutus power supply not providing constant regulated power? I cannot be for sure it is the pro cab wireless throttle alone or / and if it may be something working incorrectly with the booster or Command station. Have you ever heard of this happening before? Might you know the problems that is causing this? Both engines/locomotives have been isolated and 2 different manufacturer's decoders, so I doubt this could be due to the Locos or their decoders, but perhaps there is something I missed when doing the isolation process or decoder installation, but I doubt it as I try to research, study and be very thorough before doing anything. These are two LGB Moguls, so isolating the motor from the contacts & wheels to the rails was straight forward. You can contact me at tcblgb@gmail.com Any thoughts & help is very appreciated! Tracy
@estesdude358 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the video. Do you know where I can buy the brackets/mounts you have for the Pro Cab/Power Cab handhelds??
@arthurhouston38 жыл бұрын
Micro Mark is were I got them.
@estesdude358 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@rdanscale34168 жыл бұрын
Hey Art I got to Ask this what happened to the Fancy Snazzy Boxes with foam that N.C.E. Corporations Use to ship there Power Cabs in Like the one I see in your Video My Brand New PowerCab was in Box with nothing more than a Cardboard Cutout surrounding it Nothing else to really protect it,, The Cables & the Panel was Rapped in Plastic but as Much money you spend on these Systems..I think this approach was Less than a Perfect move To Honor such a Product made in the U.S.A. Art: I'm not upset with You at all your Videos are very well explained!, I'm just a little gotten on the Less than Steller Box that N.C.E. for some reason Decided to move To.. I like my New Stuff that I buy totally protected well.. Update: Saturday June 6 2020 The years have passed by Quickly and my PowerCab is Still in the Shape as I took it out of the Box Art I take care of my stuff Very Well, Hope your Doing ok with this Bug floating around us Be safe & Well.. Allen D.
@larrymonske80866 жыл бұрын
what lead is positive on the track and the DCC track connection it doesnt have polarity marked. Two red wires brilliant. Does the transformer for existing connection stays hooked up.
@larrymonske80866 жыл бұрын
Cant get mine to hook up it comes on but no joy from the track. WHICH WIRE IS POSITIVE AND HOW DO YOU FIND OUT?
@arthurhouston36 жыл бұрын
What ever one you want it to be, you just need to keep it the same all the way around. Take old box car and paint one side red and one side white put big + and - on each side. or Red and Black. Their really is not positive and negative in DCC. But same rules as AC or DC apply.
@larrymonske80866 жыл бұрын
does existing track connection prior to NCE unit hook up does it remain for track power
@arthurhouston36 жыл бұрын
If you have existing layout and was working of a DC power supply just disconnect it and connect the track bus leads to where the other one was and all should work just fine. Size and total number of engines comes into play. But should be all you need to do.
@owencox86464 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you hook up a signal to the power cab? I have one to hook up, but I want to know if I can do it this way.
@arthurhouston34 жыл бұрын
Yes there many steps . To make it all work and power cab is limited in capacity. The Pro Cab 5 amp system far better option for the signal and detection.
@tyhik93382 жыл бұрын
Does the NCE power cab system come with the track or do you have to buy it from a store or create it yourself?
@arthurhouston32 жыл бұрын
Ty. No power cab is a DCC 2 amp control system and does not include track.
@tyhik93382 жыл бұрын
@@arthurhouston3 wow
@tyhik93382 жыл бұрын
@@arthurhouston3 I've been watching DCC videos for a week and I'm trying start my layout next year
@AngeloL498 жыл бұрын
Great job! Respectfully asking. Can you do one on the eb-1 Circuit breaker? ( initial set up ) A little confuse on the instructions, using a Power cab ( it don't take much ). I' am stuck with the shunt instructions. came connected in the bag. If I understand it right, shouldn't be disconnected ? I apologize if I posted this in the wrong place.Thanks for any help you can give.
@arthurhouston38 жыл бұрын
Yes cannot use EB 1 with Power Cab it lowest set point is 2 Amps so same as one in PC
@AngeloL498 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right I don't know how I missed that, thanks. I did some searching and I find out that for the PC I need or can use the cp6 which looks to be a set of i amp fuses. But one would take care of the layout I'm working on. Again thanks...
@arthurhouston38 жыл бұрын
Yes it is all in the book. But you give people books and all they do is chew on the covers.
@thesteimerboyskingsteimer61807 жыл бұрын
I like your layout will your layout be done or it's done all ready I might use this video wen I get the Nce power cab um I like the video
@thesteimerboyskingsteimer61807 жыл бұрын
Grande pacific I got power cab
@michaelsmodelrailroading76654 жыл бұрын
@@thesteimerboyskingsteimer6180 Art's layout is NEVER done. It a perpetual work in progress.
@arikstinson74934 жыл бұрын
The Steimer Boys Kingsteimer has to come out in on my mind o
@pedropons20409 жыл бұрын
with this system.......I'll be running a max of 4 engines BUT will I need boosters?
@arthurhouston39 жыл бұрын
Pedro Pons If these engines are new type with can motors and new electronics. you should be alright. If they are Atheran Engines with side frame motors, RTR, then you could be facing a problem. Would set up layout test as you go and see what happens. If need be you can get SB5 smart booster. But first lets set it up and see what happens.
@AlkovickAirsoft8 жыл бұрын
How do you set it up with E-Z track? WITHOUT the alligator plugs
@arthurhouston38 жыл бұрын
You solder the wires to track. Depending how long if on a table you should sit run track buss.
@AlkovickAirsoft8 жыл бұрын
+arthurhouston3 Thanks!
@festivelad50793 жыл бұрын
What exactly is the function of a bus line? From my understanding its for relaying track power on longer layouts but I might be completely wrong.
@arthurhouston33 жыл бұрын
the cab buss is for controllers and devises only.
@arthurhouston33 жыл бұрын
The track buss is for track power and accessories.
@kevinspielmann58696 жыл бұрын
Whenever I try to change the CV bell function, after the last step of pressing the escape button and when I try the bell button, it doesn't work and the display screen shows the letter L. All other functions will work except for the bell until I unplug the power, then plug it back in. Only after I do that will the bell work. Any thoughts? Why the there isn't an on/off switch, and having a clock that doesn't keep current time seems strange also.
@arthurhouston36 жыл бұрын
Kevin Spielmann you need to press enter not esc to apply.
@kevinspielmann58696 жыл бұрын
arthurhouston3 I do press enter first.
@arthurhouston36 жыл бұрын
CV has a range for the decoder, for the function of vol. number has to be in that range. You call up that CV and it gives you what it is set first then you hit enter and put new setting and then press enter. Hard for me to do this in this communications.
@kevinspielmann58696 жыл бұрын
arthurhouston3 it is difficult to explain, but I can get all of the settings to change, but I find it odd that after I hit "enter" I have to unplug the power then plug back in and everything is fine
@FlyingCrow6 жыл бұрын
I have that problem on the odd occasion. It seems to be caused either by low voltage even if it is for a micro second or a quick short. I haven't pinned it down exactly. Sometimes I have to reset all of the CVs (CV 8 to 8 on a Tsunami decoder) and set up the engine again and that clears up the issue. Make sure the track and wheels are extra clean and if possible always use a capacitor on the decoder to preclude the momentary loss of power or voltage drop.
@christophergalvan85 жыл бұрын
Just got my NCE Power Can with ESU/DCC Ferromex an placed it on on my program track an did as you instructed on your video. Loco # comes up ,but says it can not read CV! I'm confused on what to do.
@arthurhouston35 жыл бұрын
You in this case continue enter short address 3 and the activate when it come up cannot read long address continue enter engine number. Then set engine control 4 enter the press 1 for use long address
@arthurhouston35 жыл бұрын
If a power cab you just have loco sitting on main only loco on track.
@christophergalvan85 жыл бұрын
@@arthurhouston3 thank you for the information an tips, I'll try it tomorrow. Again thank you an enjoy your videos. I just down sized from O Gauge to HO.
@christophergalvan85 жыл бұрын
Idk I got Sd60 to function, but when I put my Ferromex engine on the program track it still says can not read CV?
@arthurhouston35 жыл бұрын
Try and go though steps even though it says cannot read CVs. Be sure wheels clearn. Put some cleaning fluid on track.
@maxfall80525 жыл бұрын
You mention at the beginning that the male connector plugs are the RJ-12 type. FYI they are actually the RJ-11 type.
@arthurhouston310 жыл бұрын
You only have what? You need to reprogram engine or turn DC on.
@StrangeRealityVlog9 жыл бұрын
I have a few questions on the power cab. If you want to message me
@hollyday79472 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video for how to make track feeder?
@arthurhouston32 жыл бұрын
Used 22 or 20 gauge wire from track buss 14 stranded. I solder all connections. Soldered to rail joiners. Have some 18 ft sections one set of feeders in center. Did not do a video on this.
@arthurhouston310 жыл бұрын
No you cannot use any DCC system on a DC none decoder engine. Most decoders if set to run on DC will allow your DCC equipped engine to run on DC.
@christophergalvan84 жыл бұрын
Why does CON keep showing up on my monitor? It won't go back to loco. Train just sits there an ideals a long with horn an bell functions, but no forward or reverse?
@arthurhouston34 жыл бұрын
That engine number is in a consist. Go to consisting keys and press delete enter number press enter. That should solve problem. Let me know May have to go find consist. And delete it.
@christophergalvan84 жыл бұрын
@@arthurhouston3 thanks it worked, idk the cab is just giving me problems or just this at least. It's like everything has scrambled to different key functions. For instance my direction button no longer does anything an neither will my increase/ decrease button will function. It just releases the air brakes. My kids must have gotten a hold of it while I was away from work. Lol.....
@arthurhouston34 жыл бұрын
Unplug controller from plug. Hold down 0 plug back it it should reset to default. Now the power cab has to start up first. Not sure what power cab does. I will try in AM.
@arthurhouston34 жыл бұрын
@@christophergalvan8 Did you get message on resting the Power Cab. It was wrong. With system on go to PROG/ESC button bottom left. Press it until you see Set Common Station. Then press enter until you see. Reset Command station press 6. Do it.
@christophergalvan84 жыл бұрын
@@arthurhouston3 yes an thank you again for helping me through all this progress an new layout.
@odalesaylor7 жыл бұрын
You never seemed to address how the connections are made form the Power Panel to the track. Everything else I got from reading. Maybe a new/full tutorial would be in order?
@arthurhouston37 жыл бұрын
Dale Saylor you run leads from the terminals that say track power to the track buss wires.
@odalesaylor7 жыл бұрын
There don't seem any wires supplied and I don't know what they should be.
@odalesaylor7 жыл бұрын
Yes. But I don't know what to use exactly and how to connect them. But I do have a DC set of wires from a Bachmann DC train set bought in December. Could I just strip one end if the wires and connect it to the track?
@arthurhouston37 жыл бұрын
Will do another if I have a power cab come though the shop but instructions in the box show clearly in a picture were the two track power wires connect.
@natbarr Жыл бұрын
To the point!
@coleriemer27386 жыл бұрын
What is the price on this controller
@arthurhouston36 жыл бұрын
Look at Tony's Train Exchange they have what I think is the best prices.
@orrinwaston15518 жыл бұрын
can i use code 83 test track
@arthurhouston38 жыл бұрын
Yes
@larrymonske80866 жыл бұрын
found a problem brought the ole multi meter and guess what have a dead power rail one connection is fubar. Touch on existing wiring the ole transformer can be be hooked up into a dead short. 2 wires 50% chance of burning up your power cab.
@arthurhouston36 жыл бұрын
You cannot have the old power supply in use at same time will blow the DCC system.
@Flyingfinn828 жыл бұрын
Isn't most of this info in the book?
@matthewlungley81153 жыл бұрын
I am having trouble setting up my nsw nce cab
@arthurhouston33 жыл бұрын
Be happy to help you. Go to Grande pacific railroad FB gage and message me and I will send you my Phone #.
@matthewlungley81153 жыл бұрын
@@arthurhouston3 sorry I don't have Facebook but I do have a mobile number and do you mind that I live in Australia
@arthurhouston33 жыл бұрын
@@matthewlungley8115 go to you tube Fishplate Films, Greg He lives in Brisbane. He is NCE person.
@matthewlungley81153 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for that i will do that 👍👍
@matthewlungley81153 жыл бұрын
If I gave you my mobile number could you talk me through how to set up my nice cab
@jmerly115 жыл бұрын
Still sounds too complicated. I'm staying with DC. They still have a way to go if you ask me. Doesn't sound user friendly.
@arthurhouston35 жыл бұрын
Each to there own but currently 95% are DCC. It's not that big a deal but makes wiring and operations 1000s times simpler.
@WiilyDerbbinphlatte3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this video could have been much much shorter.