Its nice to hear a pro admitting a mistake,realization moment!! Then telling us how to rectify it.....humility is the mark of a great man....even though this situation would not come up much to most of your viewers it was very nice of you to share.well done.

And this vlog encapsulates why we watch you Jon, on the fly immediate learning and vidal sasson hairdressing shots😂

After following Jon’s channel for a few weeks and becoming interested in machine polishing but to this day not used one before, I was a little surprised to correctly identify the issue before the answer was given. I think it’s about time I invested in one! Lol. Thanks Jon

Another great video. This video is very relevant to me because my vehicle has just had respray on some of the panels. I have been advised to wait 2 weeks before machine polishing the new paint. I will use a finishing polish with a soft pad rather than going at it too hard. Thanks Jon.

"jesus look at my hair" that should be on the intro of every video!

Awesome video. Great tip. Will definitely keep this in mind when the time comes. Thank you!

Did the same on an Audi A5 with black non metallic paint. Bloody car haunts me still. The amount of work I did and getting the light bulb to fire off too late in the game was not helpful...old age! Anyway its a lesson learnt and glad it was my car and not a customers as I would defo be out of pocket...Nice work Jon! The red really really pops.

I’m 25 years paint sprayer ! Straight away In my mind same problem with a lack!! Well done!!

Thanks for the warning and the difference between OEM paint and Bodyshop paint jobs

You presented it so convoluted that I first thought it was something really tricky, like you carried over some abraded paint residue particles from the OEM paint to the repainted area in the pads (either by using the same pad on both kind of panels or even just possibly going over the edges slightly), and that's what marred the latter, because it was harder. But then I saw you had multiple pads soaking, so, I figured it wasn't that. Then it turned out to be really a basic thing. :)

Hard lessons but nice to have you give us a gentle reminder.

Thanks for fessin’ up to a mistake...refreshing! Love the channel!

Excellent video thanks. My brothers Merc has had some lacquer damage repaired so where I was going to assume it was still hard clear coat all over I now know otherwise. I'm assuming a test spot for each area would be a good idea for me as I don't know exactly how much of it was resprayed

Thank you Sir! always up for more learning lessons.

I once had a Ford Fusion that had the trunk lid repainted of which I was totally unaware. I had done my test section on another panel and had polished several doors and the hood (bonnet for you Brits ☺) to great success but when I got the rear deck lid, there seemed to be quite apparent scratches that just wouldn't change no matter how much I buffed or compound/pad combination I used. Took me a minute to realize that it wasn't on the surface as that was beautifully polished. Rather it was sanding marks that had not been taken out prior to the base coat and clear being applied that looked like surface scratches, Glad I didn't go through the clear trying to get them. haha

Jon i love using a 1 step product that has good cut, and then if i really want ultra shine, ill use a finishing polish very quickly after...but i usually dont have the time so i just use a really good 1 step and then a finishing polish/glaze for that really nice finish....

Hi, I have just got my first DA polisher and have looked at so many videos but not sure what is the best pad and compound combination to use for light swirls / scratches? Also what would you recommend for a good ceramic coating which I could apply myself. I maintain my cars well but always waxed so am new to ceramic. Many thanks

Ever thought of applying for new part as mad scientist in back to future 😂🤣🤣 keep the good work up mate.👍

Liking the power socket on the ceiling, great info Sir.

great man...we learn from our experiences, and we should always share the experiences to help others avoid it. thanks man. One thing to ask, you did mention that you would remove the machine holograms with soft finishing pad with finishing polish with very small sections with no pressure. What would be the least aggressive method you would have opted for, like soft japanese paints, when the paint is full of swirls n scratches n holograms??

Great vid very informative and hit an angle of it no one else has

If it's anything like GMC clear I use 205 with water and black soft pad. Works like a charm.

The mad scientist LOL. Sorry Jon! Caught your trouble when you said that you did the fenders wings and where going to be doing the bonnet next. But nah changed my mind but then it got obviuos for me. Not something that you always think of though. And when you polishing a great repaint where you have not noticed it first can take some time to catch what happens. Also the importance of inspection light it up when you start on a new panel is a good thing to do. I was doing a test spot on my bonnet a couple of weeks ago to find the combo. Soft Kia paint and even if it looks quite good good I have some deeper defects that I thought to level down to. B&S Uro-Fiber pad and Sonax Cutmax was almost getting them and I don't want to get any more aggressive than that. And under the Scangrip Sunmatch light it looked great on my silver metallic paint. Still I tested just for fun with the Sonax Pen Light and what do you know it showed micro marring under that light LOL. No problem to polishing those out though. But I and many more would say it where LSP ready after the first step. Lighter colors and especially when you have a lot of the metallic flakes in your paint can be a trouble to show you the right results. The sun would probebly show it for me when I was done with the LSP LOL. Awesome reminder you gave us Jon. Have you thought about useing the DAS6 Pro you have? The forced rotation can be a PITA on soft finicky paints. Some even go up to a stiff pad and a fine finishing polish as it's something with the pad movement. The last is mostly on the sticky paints where you want to keep the heat build up at the lowest possible and getting that with the more air in a more coarse foam pad. The abrasives can play a part in this too. Sonax Perfect Finish or Carpro Reflect and even Carpro Essence is some I use on very soft paints. Combo them with the Rupes Yellow Foam Pad vs the white pad from them is usually getting a great finish. If you have the Optimum Hyper Polish the one in the sprayer bottle I have heard works great on softer paints with the Rupes Yellow Foam Pad.

I thought it would be softer paint! Something I have discovered recently is BMW paint is becoming less and less hard and it is getting thinner and thinner. I recently worked on a 19 plated 2018 manufactured 3 series and 69 plate x5, and both were soft enough to inflict marring with various pad types using koch chemie f6.01. They were both showing frequent readings of 80-90 microns across large areas too. Last year I experienced paint so poor on a BMW X1 that the paint detective coating thickness gauge was leaving indentations in the paint on the contact needle and even from the "foot" that surrounds it. I even managed to make a finger print with enough pressure. It was returned to BMW after even water polishing on a glazing pad left machine marring. This may explain the difference in hardness if it has been painted with BMW supplied paint. Regardless, do keep an eye out because it nearly caught me out! Robin @ Autobrite Direct /Viking Detail

It sounds to me, whoever painted your bumper and bonnet have used a cheap clear coat, or not mixed it right or put too much product on. BMW paintwork product is usually by a German company called Glasurit. I’ve used this product a lot and it’s a hs+ (High Solid) If the paint work has not been baked off at the correct temperature and time, the paint could take a very long time to cure, plus have you checked the micron thickness Of the paint. One should be around 90-120 microns thick. So here in Australia, even when we bake a car. It can still take around 72hrs to cure at outside temperature 30 degrees. Try the nail test, if you can still dig your finger nail into the paint the chances are it will need to be repainted at the right oem. Hope that helps Scott

In the ds4 we practised in the course in Poland I did the left side of the car and the same thing happend to me on both doors so I had to use a medium cutting pad and medium polish to fix that. After the course I helped polishing a Volvo V40 and Volvo also has a very hard clear coat. I am polishing my friends Smart Fortwo but im not seeing any difference at all. I need to change something and I think I have to increase the speed and do slower passes. Its all about practice. Lol.

I had watched the full video before commenting, and my thoughts were was that the marring was on the new paint, under the new clear coat. Which meant you need to remove the new clear coat to get to the marring. Glad I was wrong. With your hair, it is au natural, as you don't go and have makeup/hair done before videoing.

dont you need to leave it for 6 weeks or some such more before working with new paint?

Jon, I'm just about to buy a Flex 3401 but as you say, those Lake Country pads are not available anymore. My preferred products are S3 Gold XXL and SF3500 or SF3800. What pads should I be looking at and is it time to re do your 3401 video from 2 years ago?

Softer paint on the bonnet and your compound is putting in its own marring. Edit : Yay - I was right!

Sounds like I was lucky, but I didn’t know how abrasive scholl s20 was, but did the whole car new bonnet respray but it turned ok on my Jag XF. This is the first time I have dabbled with my DA, as I had to polish out a scratch from a thick branch the whole length of the car, I can’t see any swirls and it seems fine. I used v34 to polish the scratch out and got a lot of product throw initially, then rechecked your vid to find out I wasn’t dabbing the pad before turning it on .... Duh. But this has educated me further thanks.

What did you use after you discovered by our error, M6 then M3 or just M3?

I had my Lexus resprayed a few years ago, it’s a reasonably good job but it’s solid black so shows every mark, and it’s quite soft. A near 17ft black car with soft paint It looks great but it’s anxiety inducing when washing it. Polishing it can be fun aswell... Damn thing I feel your pain

I guessed that you were marring the paint. And when you have lots of defects on very soft paint it usually means 3-steps :/ I just did soft c6 corvette and had to to do multiple sets with woolpad and koch chemie h9 and then two refining steps. Took me damn 50 hours and i am a part-time detailer. Did it weekend lol.

Thanks for sharing. Polishing isn't the plug and play approach we all want it to be, sadly.

You would answer your question in first place if you were not the one on work. This is professional blindness as you also aware. I am enthusiast investing so much on detailing, to make a final decision to go for anything, I am coming back checking your page if you have any comment on what I will add to my arsenal. Following you for more than 3 years. Thank you so much for your positive contributions in best explanation with professionally prep notes you got for each critics

Dirty Pads is my first thought - commenting at 4:00.

Jim actually discussed this today as well on his channel @whitedetails. Spoooky !

Hi Jon - greetings from D in Montreal - I'm at 4:30 in your video and I'm going to guess that it might be a harder paint that was applied to the bonnet - either that or the original paint was water based and the newly paint was chemical based. Haven't been around for a while and its good to see you again and to see that your'e still THRIVING and POLISHING ! : )

Not using a good cutting pad, and using a finishing pad possibly?

A while back you did a video of the knock off flex 3401. I have a friend that really likes my 3401 but doesn't want to spend the money... would you honestly recommend it? We found one on Ebay pretty cheap. Thanks in advance boss man

Are the sanding marks in the color coat under the clear coat.

Would be great if you could review the new Dewalt 18V da and rotary polishers

New paint , softer, your putting in machine maring?

Is the clear coat on the Mk7 golf as soft as that? It's a nightmare.

This is a problem when machine polishing used cars, and why its important to really check every panel.

Has someone cut the paint before putting the clear coat on?

As a pro detailer myself, i would like to detail a car together mate, what you can do in this situation mate is Take a claen cutting pad spray it with Just water and polish the Paint, for some it will sound a bit strange, but in some situation thats the salution mate Take care

The panel got too hot. Keep the temperature down. Light passes with low rpms and a softer pad will jewel polish the paint.

Lovely Jubbly, I imagine it is a common thing to come across as a professional retailer.

Great vid. Great hair. Mad detailer look! 😂

Marks are in the paint under the clear ?

what is up with the pads in the water?

You might need to try Menzerna SF4000 on a blue hex pad.

I did think it was pad or compound related. Didn't think of paint being painted untill you said again 🤦‍♂️ Every day is a school day as i say

did you ever solve this maring problem?

Machine polishing a aftermarket spray job...never factory and never know the thickness of the clear coat....no depth gauge will ever tell you but if it's all factory and never been machined at least you have an idea how far you can go.

Blooming... Sonax Perfect finish to the rescue perhaps and change pad. Bloody new clearcoat is a pain.

I had same kind of problem with Toyota RAV 4 2017. And whats more unusual is that the paint thickness is 0.9 on OEM. Its like 10times thinner or what the h... Solve me this? What i have painted cars. I know this if you but too much a part or b part the end result is not what manufacturer is mented. So if you trust your painter then theres should not be problem. But if not they might mixed it wrong.

Flat and polish your bonnet again use a soft pad, it will shine! Als auto Valeting and detailing

My so got it before i did, but he works in a BMW body shop so had unfair advantage 😁

Ultra soft pads are not the best for delicate paint. Rupes yellow pad works great.

Paused at 4:22, causing marring as you are taking it out?

grit or too little product in pad?

Hi I'm a 67 year old newb, looking to get a polisher and came across your great video. I have a car, a DeLorean that has no paintwork, but it has plastic (unpainted) front and rear fascias. I believe that they are black Urethane. I've had great results using wet n dry by hand working up to 3000 grade, but feel that good polisher will yield results. Would a machine with a big throw be good for urethane unpainted plastic? Also what liquid n pads would you use . Love your you tube channel. Thank you.

Hopefully that soft paint don’t rock chip real bad. My brand new hyundai paint seems super soft. It chips like crazy

To aggressive polish after respray. This will be sorten out with a finish polish.

Great video mate that is a good case study as you say. And your camera work is Blair Witch quality. But that made millions so there is always hope. I will use this as my go-to example of how not to polish SOFT clear.

Most Asian cars are soft clear coats and on most new cars the clear coat is getting thinner so we have a lot less to work with, yet the prices have gone up

I think the pad was clogged let’s see if I was right Edit: Oh that makes so much sense 😂 I thought they’d use the same for the panels but I shouldn’t have assumed!! Love this video it was great “case study” made me laugh it’s exactly like my nursing classes haha and all your videos are super helpful!

Fresh paint water based prob won't get hard for a couple years !?

Top tip thank you

Something to do with repainted panels being newer softer paint. Commenting at 3:59

layer of sealant?

Interestingly enough it was my immediate thought. Fresh paint is soft!

Thanks again

Wouldn’t it be a forensically fantastic idea 💡 if you did a full detail and ceramic coating of one of your loyal subscribers who you document on the channel before and after etc ? If you want a volunteer 😁🎄Merry Christmas to my mustang and me 🥳

Soft lacquer, use 3M green then yellow. Use that straight after bake with perfect results. Forget all that fancy shit!

how we will find the resuklts of the test with the trim restores we , we haveno access to the magazine?

Did you take it to a BMW approved bpdyshop?? Maybe take it back if your not happy ??

Hi mate what rubber gloves 🧤 do you use when washing detailing etc ?

A different clearcoat mate I think ? Let’s see the results.

I'm gonna go for the paint being so soft that you're just marring it by polishing it or it's under the clear coat.

Hi Jon, just wondering why your excellent looking car had had new paint ?

Pad? ----- Part right, didn’t cheat. Sounds like a job for the iBrid on 70mm pad to me. One hand and let it work under its own weight.👍

John your hair looks like Jack nicklson out of the shinning 😂

Japanese paint is so soft and such a pain. Even using perfect wash technique you get micro marring over time.

What do you use to cut extremely damaged hard bmw paint?

Jon what pad did you use in the end.

they have "polished" the base coat under the clearcoat, perhaps... no idea.

Would love to see a review on the Auto Finess REVITALISE SYSTEM V2 Kit

Hi may I ask the following. I bought a new in 2Detailing DA8 900W Dual Action Machine Polisher and found that over time it's just very noisy. In your testing of DA polishers is this unit particularly noisy to you, only the manufacturers say that's how they are. But frankly I just don't buy this. Kind regards Dave Porter London

Did you not shake the bottle? Not change pads after its saturated with product? Dirt in the pad? Answering the question you just gave 🤣

I thought it was forgetting to slap the tool and the products enough???

low clearcoat?

Ok ok, hold on J-man. It's paused. 1) Contaminated pad. 2) To rough compound on the fresh paint. 3) You're avin' a laff and an amazing hair day. Aaaand ACTION

first guess is that there is some sort of protection like a wax or sealant that stop you from getting a good finish.

That red paint looks lush

Aren't you supposed to wait 3 months for the paint to fully degas before doing any polishing of paintwork?

Soft lacquer probably cheap aswell