We're Sharing Our Narrowband SECRETS

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We're Sharing Our Narrowband SECRETS

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Come join ‪@HelenasAstrophotography‬ and I as we discuss our latest astrophotography project. Along the way we share many tips, strategies and secrets for creating a stunning narrowband image. Helena's video - • Imaging Narrowband COL...
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@dummapaahdo 2 жыл бұрын

The chemistry between Nico and Helena just amazing and so much joy and info as well ☺ Match made in heaven! Truly enjoying the results of this collaboration 😍

@shinma989 2 жыл бұрын

I could watch you guys discuss your passion for hours.

@alex.petkevich 2 жыл бұрын

Helena' s so great! Thank you for introducing her!

@joycecochrane2266 2 жыл бұрын

What a fabulous collaboration - cannot wait for the next one (no pressure!)

@guyjordan8201 2 жыл бұрын

Great results and great Collab you two. You two are really good together. Do more!

@normanhey8016 2 жыл бұрын

I've just watched Helena's version of this. The common content shows off the different styles and approaches not only in the image but in the videos as well. It really brings home how much our imaging is individualized, even though we are all shooting the same subject! Thanks to both of you for working together on these and looking forward to the next one! Oh, and nice to see and listen to you on Shawn's latest chat show. That's another fun thing.

@onewiththestars 2 жыл бұрын

You guys are awesome and inspiring. I've been wanting to do this kind of imaging for a long, long time. I'm finally to the point of acquiring the proper equipment and I'm learning a lot from you about processing. Thanks so much!

@EDKFtravels 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video. Sad that so few people have watched this video, one of my favorite to date from you!

@astrocarone9671 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome images. Loved this video!

@knightclan4 2 жыл бұрын

The passion y’all have is quite contagious Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience

@wiccanfpv 2 жыл бұрын

Wow i love her voice

@igoreq4495 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it got deeper recently lol

@afryhover 2 жыл бұрын

That was fun, well done!

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andy!

@rickygraham7946 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome first part guys, looking forward to the second part

@alanatwood7995 2 жыл бұрын

I am totally new to astrophotography but wow this channel (and Helenas) is AWESOME! IM NOT SURE i could even hold a match to you two, but I could so use any help. Excellent job!

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome Alan! Let me know if you have any questions. This video is a bit on the advanced side of things, but I have many beginner-friendly videos on my channel too.

@alanatwood7995 2 жыл бұрын

@@NebulaPhotos Thank you so much!! Im just getting started and I will have tons of questions and my goal is to get imaging as a part of my photography efforts. I'll look over those beginner videos tonight and see where these go. Thanks again!

@peterlaubscher3989 2 жыл бұрын

Great image, you two - sometimes that HA data is so amazing on it's own that you can enjoy it without the other channels. Agreed that you need dark skies to get the best out of OIII.

@LogansAstro 2 жыл бұрын

Always cool to see different interpretations of the same data. Collaborations are a fun way to share the joy of astro.

@TheAstroGuy_m42 2 жыл бұрын

Helena in the thumbnail: 😁 Nico in the thumbnail: 😲

@AstroMountainGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Really Nice conversation again, and the image is too cool at last. 👍

@corocorascarlet1592 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyable video Helena and Nico, well done!!! Awesome the Helena's progress in this year and a half I'm following her, and Nico is a wonderful passionate teacher!!! Hope you continue to do videos like this!! Perfect match! AOtus

@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome collaboration Nico! :D

@40Sec Жыл бұрын

I built my first rig for starting out with DSO's in November and have only had one night of imaging due to the weather in the Pacific Northwest, but these videos really make me excited for heading into this journey. I'll be starting with an Ioptron Starhunter goto mount, a Skywatcher 72 ED doublet, an Askar FMA180 triplet for extra wide angle to add some options, and an h-alpha modded Canon T5i as the camera. I know it's not overly advanced, but even my first night imaging Andromeda and knowing I was able to capture another galaxy was really rewarding. I'll consider whether a general narrowband filter will be useful for me at some point down the road, but my city also has moved exclusively to LED streetlights which may complicate things.

@woody5109 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, both are great, very inspiring, would kill for one of these on my wall. Thanks 🙏

@paulsirens7259 2 жыл бұрын

How you both pull these images together amazes me, this liason of similer minds and all that creativity is a joy to watch :)

@betelrock5355 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing stuff, just bought my first tele, glad to find this channel!

@hecmca 2 жыл бұрын

I love this video, both of you that was incredible

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Héctor!

@GrowingAnswers 2 жыл бұрын

I love using a selective colors mask. Thanks to you. It makes processing so much easier. I’ve actually used it a lot lately and gives so much flexibility it creating contrast and definition. I got 7 hours hso on the horse head and was using selective color and accidentally made it look almost exactly like a broadband capture of the Orion Nebula. And speaking of that, my 7 hour capture of orion in narrowband hso now looks very close to a broadband capture. Except for the running man next to it cuz thats a reflection nebula. It was weird seeing just a orange glow inside the dust cloud where the running man should be. Then I realized…ohhh…just like the triffid.

@johnd5244 2 жыл бұрын

Both stunning images! Missed the live, but living in Alaska I would have had to get up at 4 am. Thanks for sharing Helen and Nico.

@pranavanath 2 жыл бұрын

Wow great work Helena, what to say about my Astro Guru Nico. Nice to see you guys together again and would like to see more.

@alpsalish 2 жыл бұрын

I prefer Helena's take. Subtle colors and contrast directly play on the tenuiousness of our position in the cosmos. It feels thin and light - plays on a reality of the density in Nebulas and space. It plays on a human reality. I can appreciate Poppy colors and contrast. As a style, it lends itself to an intsense wonderment and awe. Much more forward a presentation. For me they both achieve similar things in different ways and often enough that is dictated by the viewer's mood. I do enjoy these collaborations. Do something with Astrobiscut! Congrats you two -:)

@tbardoni5065 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t see Astrobiscut doing a collab. That guy is on a wave length all his own. The only suitable collab partner would be either, himself, or pink bunny, and pink bunny isn’t alive, so.....

@alpsalish 2 жыл бұрын

@@tbardoni5065 Haha, he is awesome! I really love his stuff. He is interested in collaboration I believe. I think he is taking a break at the moment though. Had to go back to work.

@rickcudmore8156 2 жыл бұрын

A great project and both images have that 3D look. Interesting how the processing and programs were very different to obtain a similar result. Looking forward to the next collaboration.

@rickbohart6788 2 жыл бұрын

Great collaboration! Thanks to both you. My first time seeing your channel.

@dw.in.michigan 2 жыл бұрын

Incredible images! Nico, yours reminds me of the old black light posters from the late 70s and early 80s. You should check into getting that image converted to a black light poster...for yourself, of course, not for mass production. Gives a nice retro vibe to something so modern and technologically advanced.

@KopLamp 2 жыл бұрын

This was an awesome fun watch. I feel I need to share the same comment at Helena's vid as I have just watched them both back-to-back! Also I am amazed at the speed of the video coming out. The 17th you've got together and shared the results to each other. And only 3 days later you have a video out. I am still working on a video which I have shot a month ago... 😅

@davidm.9812 2 жыл бұрын

Great job, really enjoy these collaboration videos, would like to see more of them!

@BIueWolf58 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I had 10% of y'alls editing skills!

@astrotimetraveller4622 2 жыл бұрын

Helena and Nico, thanks for this, two very impressive final images, even if both very different. I like them both and this has made me more convinced to move to mono next year even though based in ‘not that many’ clear skies UK. Just about to received the Esprit 120ED, but maybe Mono next summer! Would be great to see some of your processing steps on these images, kind regards Ian

@3DAstroTC 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool! I'll have to try that selective color mask!

@garyoldham4449 2 жыл бұрын

I love both versions, two very different color palettes. One soft and delicious. The other bold and spicy. This made me wonder. If you stacked the two versions what would you get?

@richardwhitneyjr8037 2 жыл бұрын

Dang ... you should do podcasting. You two work well together! Richard

@astroimagem7200 2 жыл бұрын

So cool !!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@wazigeralph 2 жыл бұрын

Such a nice proces from the two of you.

@vasodyss 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome work from both of you. Love the colorful stars, Nico, you should work them into more projects in the future

@stefandietmann5120 2 жыл бұрын

October 17th? Hold on😁😁 Great collaboration!

@greatpix 2 жыл бұрын

Have either of you ever worked in LAB color? You can do some interesting things in that space where you have a luminance channel. The a and b channels can do some cool things with color.

@avt_astro206 2 жыл бұрын

Great Collab!! Thanks For Sharing Your Expireinces!! Will help me Out In the Future for My Astrophotography :)!

@Aerostar509 2 жыл бұрын

Both are great versions. I have the QHY268M and soon will replace my SX-694 with it. Please share your gain and offset values and modes used so I have a good starting point. Thanks, Tim

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Tim, we both used Gain 56, offset 20 in readout mode 1 (high gain). Helena used 2 minute sub-exposures with a 7nm ha filter and I used 10 minute subs with 3nm SII and OIII filters

@aranbarrett9543 2 жыл бұрын

You guys are awesome.

@calimark7448 11 ай бұрын

Awesome! Great vid, thanks!

@MrSpike2450 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff 🙂😊

@BurhanCerit 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect.

@ronaldg7522 2 жыл бұрын

Cool project

@stevenrobinsonpictures 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent!

@mikecole1337 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome images from you both, very impressive and detailed! Just proves what is possible if you put the time and effort in, with the right equipment of course. I might have missed it if it was mentioned but what scopes and mounts were you both using?

@greatpix 2 жыл бұрын

Nico, I've dug out my 5 year old Celestron Nexstar 5 SE and looking to use it, along with my Sony A6000 or older Nikon D300, and computer to put together a deep sky capture setup to use in my backyard here in the St. George, UT area. The learning curve is very steep and your videos have been of help figuring out how to go about using what I have instead of buying gear I can't really afford on a retirement check. I can put the scope in EQ mode with the built-in wedge so that should help with getting longer exposures, but how much longer is a mystery. My backyard covers a strip of sky leading from NE to SW but there is a slope up to the NW so I can only shoot higher objects. If I go out to the street I can shoot E to W too but have to deal with security lighting and streetlamps. Luckily I live at the edge of development so skies are darker to the East. But the area is developing really fast, in fact the fastest in the US. I used to be a member of the Orange County Astronomers but this was back in the early '70s. John Sanford was a member and also my photography/astrophotography instructor in college. Have you heard of him? He was well known for his astrophotography back then. Celestron gave him one of their C8's to use. Astrophotography has sure changed from the days of using film and hand guiding a scope for hours on end. Anyways, excellent results from your collaborative effort with this young girl who is already doing far better work than I ever have or could possibly do.

@pclpclpcl1 2 жыл бұрын

Will have to get into mono at some point.

@bobsastrophotography7812 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Image Of Elephants Trunk Helena

@Mistr_A 2 жыл бұрын

Who's hair is longer Helena's or Nico's?

@ahmedwaddah9391 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting 🙂

@kevinnewell09 2 жыл бұрын

agreed

@peterbriggs3408 2 жыл бұрын

Is there any way I could get your SII data please Nico? I've just shot this in Ha and OIII, but don't have an SIII filter to complete the triplet. I'd like to play with Hubble palatte.

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Sure Peter, here you go: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v8ryxNJ2Roc6meyEycnMzxeo2HMr_jgd?usp=sharing

@astroazores 2 жыл бұрын

Well, last night I started a session with my modified Canon 600d in the Elephant Trunk. You killed all my expectations at minute 2, didn't you, Nico?... 😐

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, sorry about that. Although there is nothing like getting the images yourself! Even though I stand by that it's hard with a color cam /dslr, it's definitely a fun challenge to make the most of it

@goatsuukerhill 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, I favor Helena’s mellow golds.

@isaacweaver2765 2 жыл бұрын

6:57 Similar music taste as Trevor I see lol

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

I finally caved and got epidemic sound, which is the same library he uses I believe.

@MrSpike2450 2 жыл бұрын

Would love a video on the processing :)

@BryonStice 2 жыл бұрын

I live only about 5 hours from Black Mesa and just wish I had more time to go to some of the amazing dark sites around here.

@isaacweaver2765 2 жыл бұрын

As long as you get lots of total exposure, it possible to do narrowband with shorter exposures, say 2.5 minutes? My mount can't handle 5 min+ subs without star trails. Thx

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, it will work. Helena did 2 min. Exposures at f/7 here

@TheAstroGuy_m42 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Nico! Can you tell me whether to buy the Redcat 51, ZenithStar 53, ZenithStar 73 or the ZenithStar 81? Thanks! Clear skies, Astro.

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Astroguy, I'd have to know a bit more to give a good recommendation here. What camera and what mount? If I assume the mount can handle any of them, then as a next step check out: www.blackwaterskies.co.uk/imaging-toolbox/ to visualize how these different scopes will change your field of view.

@TheAstroGuy_m42 2 жыл бұрын

@@NebulaPhotos I'll be using a Nikon D3500, A Skywatcher Star Adventurer Pro and the HeQ5. Thanks

@TheAstroGuy_m42 2 жыл бұрын

@@NebulaPhotos Also, is there any way to browse your data resources in your website. I searched but didn't find it. If it isn't there, please update it.

@TheAstroGuy_m42 2 жыл бұрын

@@NebulaPhotos Also please suggest me for both the mounts

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Not exactly, I hope to improve my website in the coming year. You need to click in to each resource page here, and look for the Google Drive link: www.nebulaphotos.com/resources/

@keithhanssen7413 2 жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@mayur.rpatil1060 2 жыл бұрын

In reality what are the colours actually in that nebula ? Just wondering , I don't know much but can any one educate me

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Red will dominate if shooting it in broadband

@davidsimard1522 2 жыл бұрын

i would like to join your patreon plse could i get the information to join thk you

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Hi David, here you go: patreon.com/nebulaphotos let me know if you have any questions before joining

@davidsimard1522 2 жыл бұрын

@@NebulaPhotos question i think you are going to regrettes lol lol i am so green lol lol

@fleejay806 2 жыл бұрын

New here. What is Hubble palette?

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, I happen to have a video that answers that exact question: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdF1g7hyxNGWqIU.html

@pulsar9628 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Nico, which camera did you use for the wide angle timelapse at 5:02? Im looking for a mirrorless budget wide angle solution, that doesnt kill the mirror and the shutter of my DSLR. And by the way, your results make me think really hard about getting a mono cam and some narrowband filters!

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

I used my Canon Ra and a Sigma Circular Fisheye, but neither are budget options. If you want to go really budget, just get one of the ASI cams that comes with the Fisheye lens. I've been meaning to try one.

@Kyle_Hubbard 2 жыл бұрын

I was messing around with hubble recently, I'm new to PI myself but I couldn't figure out how to get the stars back to a natural colour, they're a blue colour. I tried following a starmask video and using pixelmath to add them into the image but it would either replace the image with the starmask image or just replace it with the orginal stretched image. Starnet wouldn't remove enough stars, I had a load of small stars left in the background of the Heart Nebula. Any advice?

@NebulaPhotos 2 жыл бұрын

What I did here was create a pure SHO image with pixelmath and a HOO image with pixelmath, and then combined those 50/50 with pixelmath (0.5*SHO+0.5*HOO). I find that gives fairly nice star colors. After that, use Starnet++ on the image with the 'create star mask' option checked and it should create a version of the image with just the colorful stars on a black background. You can then 'screen blend' this on to your finished starless image with this pixelmath formula: ~(~stars*~starless).

@Kyle_Hubbard 2 жыл бұрын

@@NebulaPhotos Interesting. I'll give it a try, thank you.