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Neo Geo AES - Why I don't own it any more

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Super Mega Grafx 64

Super Mega Grafx 64

Күн бұрын

The Neo Geo home console was always the holy grail for a lot of us growing up. It was the arcade hardware and the arcade games but consolized for home use. It was very expensive though and hard to get which only made the mystery of it more appealing. Eventually I was able to get one of these and I had some great experiences... but I ended up selling it and moving on. Why? Well let me explain.
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@andysherlin1444
@andysherlin1444 Жыл бұрын
This is 27 minutes of you trying to convince yourself that you don’t really want one.
@supermegagrafx64
@supermegagrafx64 Жыл бұрын
Fair enough. lol The AES is really cool.
@freebobafett
@freebobafett 8 ай бұрын
27 minutes I'm never gonna get back
@crystalwater505
@crystalwater505 6 ай бұрын
@@freebobafett Aww, poor freebobafett and his precious time. Whatever shall everyone do now that he feels his time is wasted? Lets all pander to him because the world certainly should revolve around him and his time of course!
@jonnyblanka
@jonnyblanka 12 күн бұрын
@@crystalwater505 😂😂😂
@STR82DVD
@STR82DVD 21 сағат бұрын
@@andysherlin1444 Truth.
@analog_ape
@analog_ape Жыл бұрын
Been looking for reasons NOT to blow my hardly earned money on an AES and a couple of carts. I know it's unreasonable and it's good to hear your story to confirm my bias :) building a nice MiSTer setup now.
@The.Doctor.Venkman
@The.Doctor.Venkman 5 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree with you more. I've been there and realised, despite the nostalgia involved, there comes a point where we have to realise we have another option to get back into retro gaming at a fraction of the cost of maintaining the original hardware and buying the games. I'm happy now with Retroarch and all my handheld consoles.
@random_an0n
@random_an0n 4 ай бұрын
you are a poor and you are in deep denial,your rom folder will never be as cool as the AES on my shelf. the hardware is built like a tank and caps are easy af to replace.
@shinra2755
@shinra2755 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video and I’m sorry AES didn’t work out for you. I bought one in 2005 and consider it amongst my favourite systems. Some thoughts… No matter when you buy into the system you’re going to face high prices relative to the cost of other games released at the time. This was true 17 years ago and even more so today. However, some of the games, even at today’s high prices, represent good value for money. There’s huge mileage to be got from any of the King of Fighters or Real Bout Fatal Fury series for example. Samurai Shodown has tonnes of long term appeal as well. You can get these other ways of course but playing them via other systems just isn’t the same I believe. There is a certain enjoyment in physically owning original cartridges in great condition too. Having said all of that, there are clearly games outside any normal person’s budget. It’s frustrating. Moreover, the marketplace is flooded with conversions. In short, I love my system and it’s titles. They give me huge joy. I haven’t bought a new game in a year. I hope to add a new one to the collection at some point soon. I will savour it, whichever I choose.
@Charlie-Cat.
@Charlie-Cat. 2 жыл бұрын
I remembered when you did that amazing unboxing video of it when it came from Japan Cyrus. The reaction you had towards it was just pure emotion for sure bro. That was like the crowning achievement in gaming collecting right at that moment. At least you can say you finally achieved that goal after years of trying to do so bro. 8^) I also posted this explanation video up on the Neo-Geo thread for you Cyrus. Thank you for sharing this with us. 8^) Anthony..
@bwi518
@bwi518 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand people coming to the NeoGeo later on being like this. I got mine 2000 and over the next 10 years i bought the games i wanted before they all went insane. I also have a bootleg multicart for the AES which has worked fine for games i never bought. Totally understand what your saying as i haven't bought an original in the last 7 years (bought a 2nd aes as a back up). Great vid really enjoyed listening to it
@snkfan7506
@snkfan7506 Жыл бұрын
Great video. SNK has been my favorite game company since the 1990s. Have been a fan of the Neo Geo since I first played in the arcades in 1990. Settled for getting ports on the SNES and Playstation until I got my Neo CD system in 1998 from SNK of America when they were starting to clear them out. Built up a nice CD collection then picked up the Pocket Color in 1999. Finally got an AES in 2004. The prices for games had fallen drastically by then and got most of the games that I wanted on cartridge, dirt cheap. Then got an MVS 1-slot PCB around 2006 when I got a Jamma Super Gun. Today, sitting on a great collection and I feel sorry for folks who are just getting into collecting for all of the formats as the prices are all ridiculous. But, definitely not getting rid of my collection any time soon.
@mohammedbasharat6127
@mohammedbasharat6127 11 ай бұрын
I still own it NEOGEO AES !
@Robin-ie3ns
@Robin-ie3ns Жыл бұрын
A Neo Geo AES is kind of like a classic car - if you have real passion/nostalgia for the original hardware then it’s very rewarding. But it’s not really a “buy it just to try it” system.
@demonology2629
@demonology2629 Жыл бұрын
Even though you said what you said I believe you still don't what NEO-GEO AES is. NEO-GEO is a different kind of breed.. A lot of people fail to mention what makes it so very powerful unlike the rest. NEO-GEO does not mix graphics and sound like other video game systems do on one single circuit board of a cartridge therefore NEO-GEO is like two cartridges in one. And because of this it's the only video game system in this whole world that makes a huge difference in graphics and sound. This is more than just another video game system to play PERIOD.
@robertjohnston6976
@robertjohnston6976 2 жыл бұрын
Man I’ve wanted one for so long now. I just couldn’t get my hands on one as well as not being to afford it. They’re crazy expensive. I remember seeing it for the first time as a kid and dreamt of having one
@pauleckert4321
@pauleckert4321 Жыл бұрын
Me too. But now I just think its better to get them on my switch. At 7.99 a game its so much better then spending hundreds for one game. Yes I know its not the same as owning the orginals but I just cant justify the prices they charge on ebay for single games.
@coopercummings8370
@coopercummings8370 8 ай бұрын
If anyone wants a more affordable alternative that is still running the games on real hardware, the neo geo cd with an optical drive emulator mod is a great option these days. The neo geo cd is the same hardware except that it loads games from disks instead of cartridges, and has slow loading times as a result, however the optical drive emulator lets you load the games from an SD card instead, which gets rid of the load times, and the cost of a neo geo cd imported from japan and an ODE for it is about the same as just an AES, less if you have the skills to install the mod yourself.
@retromango1361
@retromango1361 2 жыл бұрын
I had a nice neo Geo aes North American collection but sold it when the pandemic started. What I learned is that there are gatekeepers for that console. The games are so rare that sometimes they recognize the same games being listed on eBay. Since I’ve sold the games I haven’t missed them but I’ve been very happy with my flash cart.
@demonology2629
@demonology2629 Жыл бұрын
You got at least have a few original cartridges though I recommend it! I have 13 NEO GEO AES cartridges going on my 14th!
@jonniefast
@jonniefast 8 ай бұрын
i find it much easier to collect mvs carts, even the heavy hitters are still within reach if you save a paycheck or two. got blazing star, pulstar, aero fighters, all the slugs, etc @@demonology2629
@RetroRockGamer
@RetroRockGamer 3 ай бұрын
I enjoy Neo Geo on my MiSTer and 27" sony crt, with an arcade stick with Sanwa parts. Its a perfect experience.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience and your points. I got very close to buy a mvs system, consolize and etc. But as the time goes by I feel like right now convenience in retrogaming comes first. Less hassle time means more time to actually play. I still have 3-4 systems, mostly Sega, that I collect and play but because I absulutely love the Sega consoles and I've been playing them since day one at home. Thanks again for the video and enjoy your new Neo Geo setup 😊
@glenndoiron9317
@glenndoiron9317 2 жыл бұрын
The neogeo AES joystick is *top notch*, among the best ever produced (including aftermarket joysticks) for any unit. Short throw with tactile and audio feedback. The buttons are a little mushy but work fine.
@bl1gh7y
@bl1gh7y 2 жыл бұрын
They are easy to replace the microswitches and easy to source with choice too. I’ve never had any complaints with the AES stick other than obtaining replacement sticks ( I love using them in Megadrive arcade power stick )
@buttheadrulesagain
@buttheadrulesagain 2 жыл бұрын
honestly the whole controller is flimsy compared to a good arcade stick with sanwa parts.
@bl1gh7y
@bl1gh7y 2 жыл бұрын
@@buttheadrulesagain are you talking about a neo geo x controller? The X isn’t as solid as the AES sticks or so I’ve heard. You can fit brand new Sanwa parts in them or whatever suits you & a 30 year old stick might feel floppy after all the use it has seen 🤣👍 beyond belief that someone can try and criticise the stick from the most expensive console money could buy at the time, like dude? Why so cheap? 😂🤣🤣🤣
@buttheadrulesagain
@buttheadrulesagain 2 жыл бұрын
@@bl1gh7y I'm talking about the original. I have it, and I also have a custom all Sanwa stick. No way the original is comparable to the custom one. The stick itself doesn't have the smooth travel that the Sanwa has. The buttons are even worse. Don't get me wrong, at the time it was good compared to say, the NES advantage. But no way I would use the original now that I have a much better option.
@bl1gh7y
@bl1gh7y 2 жыл бұрын
@@buttheadrulesagain lol 😂 you can replace all the original switches with sanwa if you want and I don’t mean adding the actual buttons. Your original, un modded stick sounds worn out. I have one with seimitsu stick and microswitches. It’s not as nice as my fresh as a daisy hardly used aes stick.
@Laserdreamz
@Laserdreamz 2 жыл бұрын
Minus a million badass points for letting go of Neo Geo.
@supermegagrafx64
@supermegagrafx64 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I needed those too.
@youtubesuresuckscock
@youtubesuresuckscock 9 ай бұрын
With the 68000 wait state emulation, MAME's Neo Geo emulation is virtually indistinguishable from real hardware now. There used to be very minor glitches with Neo Turfmasters and one of the backgrounds in Garou, but even those are fixed now. The funny thing is that a PC connected to a CRT with GroovyMAME is more authentic than an original Neo system connected to an LCD.
@asseertedwolf
@asseertedwolf Жыл бұрын
I rewatched this the other night and forgot what a good video it really is. 5 months later after collecting for the MVS and looking at expensive cartridges it really has beat me down when I see the prices of some things. I'm still gonna collect, but nowhere near how I first started off wanting too. I really want to get a NeoGeo pocket color and it wouldn't be so bad if the games were cheaper but I was seeing prices for some of the games and it was just killing me. especially when I can emulate everything so easily and I bought an anbernic rg300x and it plays everything right at my hands anywhere and everywhere and the battery life in it is insaneeeeeee how long it lasts. here lately, emulation has just been king for me. I'm not gonna lie, I still like the idea of just buying repros and playing them when I can't find the cheaper real MVS carts, but definitely am feeling what you were talking about in this video much more now than 5 or 6 months ago. It's like i have to go through such a hassle to plug everything up and store all of this crap when I have pretty much everything either on bigbox emulation or my ps4/5.
@supermegagrafx64
@supermegagrafx64 Жыл бұрын
Owning a Neo Geo is always going to be complicated. You are right about emulation. It definitely makes up the difference and is basically perfect. I would never try to turn someone away from owning real hardware but yeah for Neo Geo is is just not going to be as practical as other things. Still love it though. Just from a distance. I'm perfectly fine with emulating this one.
@LukeDodge916
@LukeDodge916 Жыл бұрын
I feel ya. I can never afford an AES and have the collection of games that will make me happy. Maybe one day. But I picked up the MVSX and added the Hylo hack and I couldn't be happier. Well, if I could plug in Neo Geo controllers for some games I suppose that would be nice. But it's such a shame this is out of most Collector's reach. What a system... Im still in awe of the Neo Geo to this day.
@apr2499
@apr2499 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a consolidated version of the MVS from Time Harvest. It has the Unibios, RGB out, plus The option for AES or Saturn controllers. I ended up buying and AES controller and put in Sanwa buttons. It is awesome now! Also I bought and open source scan converter and now get upscaled hdmi at 1080p. Plus the Chinese sell these knock off 161 in 1 carts. So I have games galore!
@caradinegeorge
@caradinegeorge 8 ай бұрын
Good points regarding the AES. Whoever wants to pay vast amounts of money on this console, is free to do it. However, from my point of view it's too expensive to worth the trouble. Some of the games (not all of them) were released on different consoles as stand alone versions or compilations, so there are way cheaper means to play those games. I had at one point an AES, and I've sold it for the same reasons, extremely expensive hardware and games, old and faulty hardware and at some point, after spending even more money on repairs and mods, it wasn't even an original AES anymore. So what was the point? So I went the other route, ports and emulation. It's cheaper, it looks great and it plays great.
@Mr_x_19922
@Mr_x_19922 Жыл бұрын
Back in 1992, it was marketed as "the best" console on the market (24 bit) but the main issue was it's crazy price of $650 bucks, you could buy the Genesis, snes, gameboy amd game gear with less money than the neo geo aes, and it's library was not that great
@HellTantrumbull
@HellTantrumbull Жыл бұрын
What you experienced is exactly why I decided back in the day to just not even try to get the Neo Geo. like many who were teenagers during the 90's I really wanted the system because the games it had caught my interest but those jacked up prices were a complete turn off with certain titles hitting $200 to $400 every time I just happened to see them. I was fine with playing Art of Fighting on the Genesis but the Sega Saturn and PS1 and other consoles that came after them are where I was finally able to play more NG games without spending hundreds and I really didn't care if most ports weren't perfect at the time. Thankfully with each of the current consoles people can buy NG games for cheap and with a proper emulator for pc and a modded original xbox people can play NG games without breaking the bank just for a single title. I also like the original NG hardware but with those prices it goes for and some games being even higher than what they were when they came out I'm never going to get one and I'll just stick with what's being made available today.
@19822andy
@19822andy Жыл бұрын
If I paid $200 for Burning Fight that would be the end for me even if the cart was perfect. I lusted after a Neo Geo as a kid too but it's even more prohibitively expensive than it ever has been. Collectors and KZfaq have pushed the price of most retro games past the point of what im willing to spend for old gamers like myself. The games are pretty shallow too all things considered because they were arcade games. They're meant for a quick thrill in an arcade and get boring real quick. Emulation is absolutely perfect for most systems and emulators offsr so much more than the original hardware ever can and that's good enough for me.
@ultimateman55
@ultimateman55 Жыл бұрын
I have a similar story with the Turbo Grafx 16. Bought a system and 3 games for $170 about 5 years ago. It was a pretty good deal. But it took a custom made cable just to get composite out of the console. To get RGB would require about a $200 investment and an everdrive was going to be another $175. It was just too much for a console I didn't have nostalgia for. I ended up trading it and the games separately, got good value for it, and never looked back. Sometimes a system just isn't for you.
@RekoneInkings
@RekoneInkings 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a Mister FPGA a few months ago. My desire for a Neo Geo since I was 13 (I'm 37 at this moment) has vanished. I use sanwa buttons and stick on a DIY arcade stick case that I'll improve over time. Super super happy!
@ilchymis4000
@ilchymis4000 2 жыл бұрын
It's already been mentioned, but the mister is the best way to experience Neo-Geo IMO. The emulation is amazing, and for less than the cost of an AVS, you can play pretty much every console up to PSX/Saturn (hopefully soon!). Your reasoning was perfectly rational -- sure, you could grab a flashcart, but at that point you're already taking a step away from the NG and dumping another $500 into something you couldn't get the way you wanted it. Different strokes for different folks, I say!
@Daeys2411
@Daeys2411 8 ай бұрын
I never look at it that way and thank you for reminding us ! I bought yesterday my first NEO GEO game on xbox series I love it ! and knowing it is a simulator being able to play these games now is just incredible !! they cost 7 euro a piece so WAY LESS
@infineon222
@infineon222 6 ай бұрын
I got lucky with a board version 3-5 from Japan and the RGB looks crispy. Only thing I did was get a good cable and a NeoSD.
@IamMarkSmith
@IamMarkSmith 2 жыл бұрын
Cyrus! What a pleasant surprise. I don’t know what happened to Video Game Virus however I am glad I found you here. I hope all is well? I remember the live stream you did when you bought that second AES a few years ago. You are the very first person I have ever seen play “The Super Spy.” This is good advice here. I would also recommend a used NEO GEO Arcade Stick Pro. They are on eBay right now for about $80.00 to about $140.00 approximately. It comes with 40 games and the hardware chosen for the buttons and joystick are pretty good.
@AdversaryOne
@AdversaryOne 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was him. My guess is he felt like he had to rebrand because of all the controversy surrounding the Amico. Just a guess.
@supermegagrafx64
@supermegagrafx64 2 жыл бұрын
There was a lot of unfortunate stuff that went on and yeah I just wanted to start over and see how it goes. I really appreciate the support and kind words from everyone that has been visiting here.
@IamMarkSmith
@IamMarkSmith 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermegagrafx64 you're welcome man. There's nothing like a fresh start. If that's what you needed to do, then let's get your new channel going! Retrogaming, recommendations, and gaming from the Cyrus perspective
@CamaroSS-sy2ei
@CamaroSS-sy2ei 2 жыл бұрын
I was glad to find you, too Cyrus! I really like your content. Glad you’re back!
@AceEbb77
@AceEbb77 2 жыл бұрын
Never was lucky enough to snag a original unit back in the day. Only ever saw one in a pawnshop in the late 90s and was a starving university student at the time. I was happy to emulate it on MAME for years. Grabbed a NEO GEO X, but it is just okay, not the finest quality. Picked up the mini and it was okay, video out could have been better. It was a better quality product than the X. My favorite way to play, is the NEO GEO Arcade Stick Pro. Officially branded, high quality product, with perfect emulation. They designed it hardware mod and hack friendly. I have the full library on it, unibios, and it looks perfect on my HD display. I am surprised it isn't talked about more. I guess it doesn't have the "street cred" of the original carts and console.
@TheRealDustinNunn
@TheRealDustinNunn Жыл бұрын
The best Neo-Geo home consoles from SNK are the Neo-Geo AES and the Neo-Geo CDZ.
@crystalwater505
@crystalwater505 6 ай бұрын
I just emulate everything retro, lol. It's way more practical and much cheaper, and you get the same experience. Oh and I think it's also awesome that you like RPGs on other systems, like Tales of Phantasia. 🙂
@Pyke_
@Pyke_ 9 ай бұрын
Neo Geo is a elite club of retrogamers dude. It's like to be a owner of a Bugatti or Lamborghini
@Ahmed-ty1ko
@Ahmed-ty1ko Ай бұрын
The difference is that luxury car owners buy them new
@musclemark2710
@musclemark2710 2 жыл бұрын
I missed you my guy! Your new channel is super cool! Cyrus respect brother!
@pm34711
@pm34711 2 жыл бұрын
I love my NeoGeo consoles. I've got 5 aes consoles. Good video
@williamfine1174
@williamfine1174 5 ай бұрын
Why 5?
@mattdud
@mattdud 16 күн бұрын
Those are rookie numbers in this racket.
@pauleckert4321
@pauleckert4321 Жыл бұрын
I totally get you. I wanted one as a teen back in the day. But knew I never could. Now today with the prices just as crazy I dont think I ever would unless it was crazy deal like at a garage sale or something. Today I just buy the ones I want on the switch at $7.99 each. Also got the Samari Showdown collection on sale and love it. Such a good collection I dont get why SNK has not done more like a fatal fury or KOF collection for the switch. I just think with emulation being in alot of way better then the orginal now and so much cheaper then eaby why do people at all buy them on their espcally with like how you said they can fail. Dont get me wrong having the physcial would be nice but those prices are just too much IMO.
@retrozocker2294
@retrozocker2294 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you. Owned AES but finally it was/is expensive as hell. Later on and still now I have an MVS consolized system and around 30 games. Was thinking about to collect all of these MVS games. But MVS is getting more expensive too. Too many sorrows..bootleg or not, open the cart and checking them, of course cleaning and so on...But finally I would have all of these games in my shelf not playing them because lot of them are not top games too. Additionaly not having the time I would like to have for playing them. So I just would have the carts in my shelf although I know I dont like every game. At least I just would spend a lot of money for all these games well knowing its just for the shelf and not for playing them. Because at the beginning I wanted to collect them. I made the same experience like you using emulation. Tried some ACA neo geo games on PS5, also Batocera with all Mame and Neo Geo games. It`s perfect for me and will minimize my collection or finally sell it.
@iankester-haney3315
@iankester-haney3315 Жыл бұрын
I have been playing some neo geo roms on the Analogue Pocket. It seems to be doing quite well at it, though the layman's eye.
@hanzobi1926
@hanzobi1926 Жыл бұрын
I just dropped a grand this month on a fully boxed matching serial AES with a RGB Scart bypass, recapped, Unibios 4 and a 32k (16k/16k bank FRAM memory card. Always wanted one since the 90s and love OG hardware of all game consoles, even if I have a Mister FPGA setup too.
@locked01
@locked01 9 ай бұрын
I just bought one now, in 2023. With 4 controllers, 2 original AES ones and 2 bean (CD) controllers, and a memory card and Art of Fighting 2 for 375 SD
@PikaStu666
@PikaStu666 Жыл бұрын
I would love a physical NeoGeo unit, I’ve toyed with the idea of a CD unit, but the load times and lack of some of the later games puts me off. An AES and flash cart is too pricey, and a converted MVS doesn’t really appeal to me. A proper NeoGeo AES mini, with authentic sticks or clicky pads would be amazing, and if they included svideo or RGB output I’d be in heaven!
@FotosyMas.
@FotosyMas. 2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently playing via a Mister fpga. Perfect hardware emulation.
@johnketo2150
@johnketo2150 27 күн бұрын
I feel your pain man. I have been stuck with a bootleg Neo Geo MVS cartridge, a broken MVS cartridge with no sound and MVS cartridges that came super scratched up that were not visible in the seller's posted photos. The experience can get you down and makes seeing and playing the Neo Geo console not fun at those times!
@jenningsmills5398
@jenningsmills5398 2 жыл бұрын
I had a aes s-video mod unibios Phantom 1 converter Metal slug 1-5 mvs Sold it once I got the snk collection And Metal slug anthology for ps2 Haven't missed it since.
@boogerdawson25boogerdawson61
@boogerdawson25boogerdawson61 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like a pain in the butt and I don’t blame you for selling it.
@phil1pd
@phil1pd 8 ай бұрын
I had one back in 1991. I only had baseball stars because it came with the system. Because games were $200 each back then, I would return a game a few days after I beat it and exchange it for another one. This was allowed at babbage's. Most of the employees never gave me a problem.
@rolandbaron5813
@rolandbaron5813 Ай бұрын
Understandable. I get why folks chose the emulation route for neo geo games. Emulation has gotten really good these days. I still want to own one, one day.
@sergiovalencia9074
@sergiovalencia9074 Жыл бұрын
Neo Geo collecting is like collecting for Ferrari, Bugatti etc. crazy expensive.
@hanzobi1926
@hanzobi1926 Жыл бұрын
Also, hope to get a NeoSD Pro cart once pre-orders open. Yeah, it's expensive to play roms, but it's a hobby and any hobby is depending how far you want to go (pay) for something, even if there are other cheap alternatives.
@asseertedwolf
@asseertedwolf 2 ай бұрын
Hey! Hope has been well. i still have and collect for MVS but i still do it at a slow pace. i actually ended up getting a NG Pocket Color with a cartridge that i can just put roms on it and play it that way and it's been a blast to play. i actually didn't know it at the time when i bought it, but it had the screen backlit mod on it boy does it make a world of difference playing them in the dark now.
@PurpleTeamer
@PurpleTeamer 3 ай бұрын
I live in Japan, I have a MiSTer but still own a neogeo AES 3-5 with only the games worth playing, maybe 10 of them in AES and 15-20 of them in MVS with an adapter. I'm not hoarding for the sake of hoarding. But if you want 1:1 experience without ruining yourself, just get a MiSTer.
@calmarsh7853
@calmarsh7853 2 жыл бұрын
The Pandora’s box does pretty Good job with Neo Geo games gives you the classic arcade experience hooked to your flat screen . I understand completely your decision
@hi_tech_reptiles
@hi_tech_reptiles Жыл бұрын
I use component and a GBS Control to play everything on a VGA CRT. Makes life so much easier. It's a fantastic scaler under 100 bucks, can even get ones with HDMI (I built mine and haven't bothered yet)
@christophefan2010
@christophefan2010 Ай бұрын
I own a Neo Geo aes for a long period now with a huge collection of aes carts, I will never sell any even if I do not play them often, If I ever need money I could change my mind of course :) I own a Rapsberry Pi 5 and also has 2 x Misters, I sold the Misters and play more with the Pi 5 because it`s much more easier to use... my personal thoughts are that no emulation will ever compete with the original hardware!
@supermegagrafx64
@supermegagrafx64 Ай бұрын
@@christophefan2010 its a wonderful platform
@goldenfreddy-gj5wy
@goldenfreddy-gj5wy Жыл бұрын
I have an Nvidia Shield and a Mekatronics, Neo Geo games are perfect using those top boxes with HDMI, I also have a bunch snk collections that came out for the PS2, and some ps1 ports, which I play using my hdmi converter. Thing is, those Neo Geo original cartridges are really expensive, also the system is really expensive, and although I like collecting old system and games, Neo Geo is too much on the money, and now with everything that you have mentioned, I'm even less interested, I'll stick with the ports for the other systems and emulation.
@nororengo286
@nororengo286 2 жыл бұрын
I recently sold my CMVS. it was from Jamma Nation X. I loved that thing. I had a couple common carts, 161 in 1, and there was a dipswitch mod for the 138 in 1 cart. I actually was selling a pre-made dipswitch mod for it on the neogeo forums. :). whats funny is once I made that pre-made dipswitch mod, the terra onion flash cart came out and them released. I bought one, and it was awesome. The neo Geo is pretty much emulated perfectly. the mister is great for it and you can use it with a CRT, and arcade sticks. I always wanted one back in the day like most people. I have an Arcade 1up that I switch out with a raspberry Pi 4, and a PC to play games on it, and when playing Arcade games, feels just as good as the originals. hence why I sold my NeoGeo MVS. I got the same feeling playing on real hardware vs. emulation. some people can tell the difference. I am one of those people, but as I get older, it doesnt matter anymore.
@user02573
@user02573 2 күн бұрын
The NeoGeo AES was never created with poor people in mind.
@JohnDriLLL
@JohnDriLLL Жыл бұрын
it was my life long dream to own one of these. its really a 2 player system. i can always go back to playing 1 player game cube games.
@jayjay-xk1zn
@jayjay-xk1zn Жыл бұрын
I seen a super nintendo game cartridge turtles in time, I think it was going for £120. That is ridiculous.
@nicholaswilkinson9512
@nicholaswilkinson9512 Жыл бұрын
Same here man. I have a SNES classic, I’m always downloading the rom and checking it out. I would still like to own a NeoGeo one day, but for now. I will load a rom on my SNES Mini, play it and download another rom. I’m using Hackchi 13 emulator, runs great!
@AngryCalvin
@AngryCalvin Жыл бұрын
These games are accessible now. The big Neo Geo controller has a lot of games on it. About twice as many as the mini. These games used to cost a ton of money each. Probably not worth owning the console when the cartridges are ridiculously expensive anyway.
@albey1816
@albey1816 Жыл бұрын
I was playing Neo Geo on a Consolised unit ( Real MVS hardware ) - But i am instead building my own Bartop arcade cabinet running MAME. I was playng Neo Geo games more on my P.C than on real hardware ( MAME running on my P.C has superior sound quality over real hardware, which is what has inspired me to build my own machine )
@silverwings21
@silverwings21 Жыл бұрын
4:55 That's one of the reasons I don't get those flashcarts, putting all your eggs in one basket and at that high price. Also, heard they fry your system. 7:57 I want to get Burning Fight. 10:24 The most I spent on a game was $735.62. 17:05 It's not about getting them all, just the ones you want. Looking at my list of games that I'd really like to get, I'm down to 7 more. I just got one recently "Cyber Lip". So grand total of 15 games I'd like for the system. (Also, there is the Neo Geo CD option, which has games cheap, for the most part. Just avoid most of the fighting games, loading too long.)
@Mr_x_19922
@Mr_x_19922 Жыл бұрын
You can hear a lot of things, flash carts are amazing, but you could read anything about them, does not mean you should avoid it
@TraumfresserBMofficial
@TraumfresserBMofficial 3 ай бұрын
I sold mine and yes I regret it. I could have figured out another way to get the money. But when I owned it I didn’t appreciate it. When you have it you don’t wanna play it. When you wanna play it you don’t have it. You can’t have it both ways I guess.
@bl1gh7y
@bl1gh7y 2 жыл бұрын
For a while between 2000 and 2010 was the best time to pick up Neo Geo games. Many people who picked up a handful of games back then can flip one or two carts and easily afford a flash cart. I think if the flash cart is too dear then a 161-1 is the way to go. I would be happy to have the 161-1 again and just leave it in or file the end of the pcb myself. I used to have 2 Neo Aes consoles but refuse to sell both.
@wornout_joystick
@wornout_joystick 2 жыл бұрын
May I suggest... the MISTer. The NEOGEO core is a 1 to 1 FPGA recreation of the original hardware.
@supermegagrafx64
@supermegagrafx64 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely want one of those
@wornout_joystick
@wornout_joystick 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermegagrafx64 you won't regret it!
@8bitsnkboy472
@8bitsnkboy472 2 жыл бұрын
I imported a Japanese AES about 7 years ago and I've built up a library of 32 carts - Mostly VS fighting games (which is why I really wanted the system to begin with). Personally, I brought mine because I already had a Neo Geo cd, but I was unhappy with the loading times for the VS fighting games in particular (especially the later releases). Anyway, my AES games balance out my CD collection perfectly. I also don't have any major issues with the standard Neo Geo joysticks - I agree that the buttons could be better, but they are solid and work well (they are somewhat noisy though). That said, I completely understand your position. The Neo Geo is an easy system to emulate and it's games are available across all major platforms. There isn't any reason to buy original hardware if you just want to play the games, other than perhaps wanting to play them on original hardware. I generally recommend emulating all 16-bit systems these days, as collecting retro systems is getting really expensive. Regarding the other problems you experienced, I'm fortunate to live in the UK, so all of my TV's have support for SCART. This means I get a great image from my AES (or NGCD) on any of the CRTs or LCDs in my household via a SCART lead. The other major issue, namely price, I reduced by collecting Japanese carts (I prefer them anyway - and the US packaging is inferior imo). The price of American or European carts is ridiculous, when you realise that apart from the labels, they are IDENTICAL (and have no region lockout). That said, I'm glad I picked up most of my carts years ago, when there were many bargains to be found. I did a LOT of research before I started collecting for AES (already owning the CD system helped), but it's not something I'd really recommend, despite how happy I am with my own collection.
@zy2239
@zy2239 10 ай бұрын
Hi @supermegagrafx64 , question , I was going to buy a Neo Geo but you mentioned that your first one wasn’t good because RGB signal was mediocre, because it was a “stock unit” what are the stock units ? And what is the best Neo Geo Model I should buy if I don’t want to regret my purchase? Thanks beforehand !!!
@GeekswithCash
@GeekswithCash 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those I always wanted but I can see all the issues with it and why you backed out. Its got an honestly small library of games overall for how expensive it is I was surprised when I looked it up more.
@ifadetogray
@ifadetogray Жыл бұрын
For the longest time I wanted one, but I bought the Neo Geo minis (both US and Japanese and I have a retropie and While I have briefly considered the AES at the local retro store, I can't justify the cost for what will be only a few games. I enjoy the minis good enough
@retrogametech1626
@retrogametech1626 Жыл бұрын
I got a mister for the price of a neo geo and I’m so glad I got the mister
@niceguy60
@niceguy60 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why I only collected MVS in the early days
@noneed4me2n7
@noneed4me2n7 2 жыл бұрын
Used to mod OG Xboxs and still have a few with coinops. I have almost complete arcade libraries and they still work on the software, though the scene died down. With an Xarcade tankstick and trackball it’s good compromise.
@StrokedGT
@StrokedGT 5 ай бұрын
I don't know man, you said you wanted the real Neo Geo experience but went with emulation? I would've gone with a MVS arcade cabinet, or got a flash cart. They're not as bad as you made it seem, and better than spending $200 on a crusty looking game.
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 7 ай бұрын
The AES is so cool looking, but as you say, you can get the games elsewhere.
@DJ239
@DJ239 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand that, sometimes the games aren't worth the price just to play. Modding the AES is a must I think, you gotta have at least the Unibios for sure. I would only sell my AES if I could get a real MVS arcade cabinet.
@chriss2082
@chriss2082 2 жыл бұрын
Good video👍🏾👍🏾
@catoblepag
@catoblepag 5 ай бұрын
I have many good emulation setups, like a Raspberry Pi400 with RGB-Pi hooked on a CRT, but real Neo hardware is still better. I'm very sensitive to input lag, and when I play emulated I can always feel the timing is slightly off, especially with games like Neo Turf Masters, one of my favorite titles ever. So I have an MVS cab and I collect MVS carts. But people can go the real hardware route even cheaper, with a simple 1 slot MVS board (there's a million of them), a decent supergun, a CRT, and the 161-in-1 banana cart. And it'll be objectively better than AES: for example, the MVS RGB video output is stellar (as any other arcade board, for that matter). I've never tried MISTer, so I can't say if the input lag is an issue on that too, but it's wonderful to play on original hardware... it just doesn't have to be AES. Need a game that's not on the chinese 161-in-1 cart? Buy a bootleg on Aliexpress. The only good thing about owning an AES is having on a shelf all those beautiful carts with colorful boxes, manuals and labels - if you're rich, or insane enough to spend all your money on this hobby.
@dareason7581
@dareason7581 2 жыл бұрын
bro, you read my fucking mind.... i did the same shit with the Switch! and the Neo Geo games is perfect!!!!
@asseertedwolf
@asseertedwolf 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had considered at 1 time getting an AES but within the span of about ohhhh 20 minutes I realized that it's a mistake lol the games are just too expensive but! I bought a CMVS and have been buying legit carts when I can and repro carts for the really expensive games. Honestly, I always loved the idea of playing on legit carts that came from the Arcades where people invested their time and energy into them. I also too have that fear of What happens if my console dies on me? Idk anything about fixing them....I considered buying a 2nd CMVS console and just laying it up JUST IN CASE! I don't play on the one I have heavily so I'm hoping it'll last me a long time. I'm 32 now and collecting for the MVS has brought back my passion for gaming and collecting. i don't mind emulation at all! I personally think this is a good video...but maybe you shoulda thought a little harder before buying an AES haha :P
@supermegagrafx64
@supermegagrafx64 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I definitely should have rethought the 2nd one I bought. The 1st one...ok... but buying another one years later was incredibly stupid. I had to get it out of my system I guess and got my money back but yes I should have considered things just a little more deeply.
@asseertedwolf
@asseertedwolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermegagrafx64 Ahhh. I wouldn't let it worry to death honestly....we all make mistakes and sometimes just jump into something thinking we'll be good then realize this was or is not going the way we thought it would. You're not the first to make that mistake. Honestly, here lately I have been getting rid of alot of things in my gaming collecting that I bought because at the time it was a good deal and I knew it was rare but I never played them ever....what kinda person does that? and I did it a lot! so I have been getting rid of things that I know go for a pretty penny online and just getting things that are valuable too me....idc what anyone says, Eventually a lot of these ''rare'' games etc are gonna pop and the younger generations of kids are not going to give those insane prices for old carts they never grew up with anyways or other disc based rare games. I suspect the NeoGeo stuff will eventually come down in prices but by how much, idk...Honestly, I never even hear people talk about a NeoGeo unless you know what 1 is and the games for it etc. heck, I didn't even know what 1 was until I was like 16? 17? somewhere along there haha
@HamzaRafique777
@HamzaRafique777 4 ай бұрын
This is honestly why I bought an MVSX and an ASP, both modded with the full library, yeah it’s emulation but with a very tight budget, it’s just not worth for me
@Pagaugezero
@Pagaugezero 10 ай бұрын
I have over 30 AES and more MVS and never had any carts go bad. Cleaning pins on carts and unit never had a problem. I think people were pulling your leg.
@bl1gh7y
@bl1gh7y 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking about this, honestly feel you will regret not getting a flash cart, especially since you could also enjoy new games like Xeno Crisis and with the neo sd pro can also play neo cd games too.
@xxcffff8275
@xxcffff8275 Жыл бұрын
There are adapters you can use with a ps3 or ps4 sticks, hdmi converters, scanliners ... collecting for it is expensive but good prices on carts can be found time to time. I managed to get everything I wanted for okish prices but yeah... it can be expensive if you really want to collect for it and a lot of patience
@atomicskull6405
@atomicskull6405 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like something was spilled on that cartridge, maybe it got inside and corroded the PCB as well. The plastic doesn't have "paint" the surface is dyed so whatever it was exposed to bleached it.
@EatingCtrlV
@EatingCtrlV 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel exactly the same about the NEOGEO. Theres actually one local to me I could grab, and I haven't grabbed it due to talking to you about it over the years. I know what I would be like, I would want the games, and the original controllers. And the games are just brutal to find :( Absolutely I 100% agree that the emulation is the primary reason that I use to stay away from it. The emulation is 99.999999999% there, and with the right hardware, say a MiSTER or something similar, you can basically have the experience without all the pain. Part of me still longs to just collect it, even if I know it's not the best way to play it. But I know that its just going to negatively affect the other things I want to collect as well. A NEOGEO is not for me. Emulation is fine.
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 2 жыл бұрын
Emulation for the neo Geo has been solid since 1997
@atrax7023
@atrax7023 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a brand new US Neo Geo Gold AES system with two games back in the 90s and i got bored with it pretty quick sold it a few years later.
@cesarprado6943
@cesarprado6943 9 ай бұрын
I wanted a neo geo aes or an mvs but I can never justify spending all that money on games I can play on a lot of different platforms my favorite way of playing is on a modded Wii and a crt to me that's the closest way of playing since the wii output video at 240p
@buttheadrulesagain
@buttheadrulesagain 2 жыл бұрын
get a consolized MVS with a multicart, or if willing to spend, a NeoSD cart. You can get a decent arcade stick too. I see you talk about the NeoSD, it is really a solid piece of hardware. And it is compatible with everithing, don't believe those rumors. I use it with a japanese AES, and a custom arcade stick. Better yet, get a MisterFPGA, it's hardware emulation and I hear Neo Geo is just like the real deal. HDMI out. No flashcarts.
@TheLastLineLive
@TheLastLineLive 2 жыл бұрын
Neo Geo is too bourgeoisie for me
@xtremegold2950
@xtremegold2950 Жыл бұрын
is more of collectible item i rather or prefer keeping a AES instead than a snes megadrive cartridges or ps1 discs any other console beacuase you ll find them anywhere like bredding rabbits.and insects the AES no or its carts.. rarety
@Shiro128b
@Shiro128b 2 жыл бұрын
You were never ready.
@wyldelf2685
@wyldelf2685 2 жыл бұрын
This might be kind of obvious , , but can't you get an Everdrive for Neo-Geo ? ?
@enriquepinero707
@enriquepinero707 2 жыл бұрын
I love the games the Neo Geo has, but it was never worth it for me to go after it, in any meaningful way. This is why I just decided to buy them digitally on the Nintendo Switch. Yeah you could emulate them, but the form factor, amount of different controllers you can use, and even those mini arcade cabinets for $70 you can get on etsy to slide the Switch tablet into; give me a level of satisfaction that you can't get on emulation and costs waaaaayy less (legitimately) than going after the original hardware and carts (and the Switch can hook up to a TV and is a handheld).
@cd4playa1245
@cd4playa1245 2 жыл бұрын
Are basically all of the original neo geo games on the switch? I do have magical drop.
@enriquepinero707
@enriquepinero707 2 жыл бұрын
@@cd4playa1245 From what I noticed; oy a few of them are not. I know Gowcaiser and 8 man after aren't; because those are based on animes. Arcade Archives have really slowed down releasing them for a bit and are focusing on other really old arcade games at the moment. They have been releasing 2 game every week on Thursdays; since the Switch launched in 2017.
@DeadMouseis
@DeadMouseis Жыл бұрын
just do what i did,get uh neogeo gold case,get uh raspberry pi 2 and wire the pi to the neogeo gold case,get a snes wireless controller(black) and call it a day..i put neogeo cd,aes,msv and arcade neogeo games..now i am no longer effected by Ebay hit artist(scalpers)
@thegreathadoken6808
@thegreathadoken6808 2 жыл бұрын
In Soviet Russia Neo Geo owns YOU
@passingbreeze173
@passingbreeze173 2 жыл бұрын
Emulation vs collection.Ouuuuu my god..
@arthurcarneirolopes6383
@arthurcarneirolopes6383 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Neo Geo AES needed some exclusive games other than MVS ports, only having arcade games made the library small and the variety low, it also does not have a lot of homebrew games coming out compared to other platforms like the NES and the Mega Drive.
@russelledwards001
@russelledwards001 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it was ever worth the money or effort.
@JamesBond-gg4wg
@JamesBond-gg4wg 4 ай бұрын
Emulators are sometimes glitchy and the sound quality and graphics are inferior
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