Read Adorno's "Perennial Jazz Fashion," talks exactly about this

Of course, people want stuff, they want to feel different, so they dye their hair, go on a march, scream slogans, put on silly red and pink hats, it doesn't matter, online it's otaku vs otaku. All to fill this void they are informed that they have, they should instead eat some chocolate and get on with the mundane tasks in front of them.

Great comment man.

to matter in what way? It seems to matter to the ones who bought it, no? Or are you waiting for the song that changes the world?

@@tommat86 Nah just one that can't or won't be co-opted. A punk band that doesn't have merch lol

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But they're not exploiting our culture when they send their sick child to a Western hospital or demand recognition of ownership and title from our courts, without which they might easily fall prey to illness and invasion? Don't mean to be rude, but did you just get done watching Avatar?

"exploiting their culture" - how so? exploitation requires private property, but you are talking about hunter gatherers, who have no private property. unless you are saying that music is private property?

Yeah, anyone thinking that there exists some progression of culture should think again. All contemporary cultures are *equally* evolved and have had the same time to evolve (and in any mutating system the rate of mutations is determined by some natural process).

@C.D. I never said their existence presupposes "some dichotomy between that which is in and outside of the bounds of capitalism". The window metaphor refers to people not in the hunter gatherer group thinking about the group as a component of our current society. In just the same way that the facebook offices are a "window" into our present for somebody who does not work at facebook.

Have you got a reference for this?

@@markcostello236 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/erijpbyakt28oqM.html 7:54

@@linusbromstrup1883 Thanks, was hoping for a reference from the great man himself. Nevertheless, thanks for pointing that out. It slipped me by

There was a British comedy about a working mans club called "Phoenix Nights". One episode they had a psychic (who is terrible) and his intro is exactly like that. Just pretentious twaddle: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iMpnbKyWxNy7qYU.html

@Stale Bagelz LMMAOOO STOP

Stale Bagelz they’re based off a African tribe

It reminds me of Nigel Tufnell's intro to 'Stonehenge.' kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6eIrd15sp7efKs.html

Well, coming from people whose first language is not English, I think it's understandable. This is the least of the problems in the Deep Forest situation, if it is one, to be frank.

That's fine. There's still hope for some. My mom understood me and gave a laugh when I've described "Wind of change" by Scorpions as a song version of Fukuyama's "The End of History and the Last Man" while my father didn't understood what I've meant.

So many boomers grew up or were indoctrinated into this conception of progressiveness and still hold onto their colorfully packaged ethnology as a point of pride that they weren't like the other boomers. I honestly can't say younger generations are all that different though. We may be more "aware" of neoliberalism and empty corporate platitudes but everything gets funneled back into the same place at the end of the day - ideology as a form of identity. In 20 years our kids will be saying the same thing about us, how proudly their parents talk about socialism this and anti-consumerism that but ultimately we have succumbed to the same trappings of just inventing another demographic instead of making any meaningful structural change.

depends on your definition of world music and what recordings you're supporting/listening to.

The way my mother described it to me is "folk music by people of colour". It isn't inherently orientalist, but the distinction between folk music and world music is orientalist, and the way that the record industry markets it, particularly in the 80s, 90s, and 00s, is. See also the distinction between blues and country, or between pop and RnB.

@Klas Wullt I think you're thinking of the Spartakusbund, who were not named for the Spartans, but for Spartacus, the leader of a slave revolt

@Klas Wullt For the record... Mussolini, Hitler and Mosley are not Communists. Mussolini, Hitler and Mosley are fascists. A communist society has never been achieved, as communism is a stateless, classless and moneyless society. Considering how important the State is to Mussolini and Hitler, I think it's quite clear that they were not communists in the slightest. They also didn't create classless societies, as their ideas were eugenicist in some regard, and eugenics requires that you consider some group of humans to be worth less than some other group of humans. And the societies they created also weren't moneyless - and in fact, always fit pretty neatly into Capitalism (State Capitalism that is). The Nazis called themselves Socialists, but their first move when in power was to open a concentration camp to imprison left wing people - socialists and communists. If your retort is "USSR, Venezuela, *insert another country that obviously failed communism*" I would advise you to reconsider what communism is. The USSR tried to achieve communism. It failed. It achieved partial socialism, and even just that made its economy grow and turned into a world power to match the world-dominating USA. Venezuela and all of the others have been consistently boycotted by the USA before they are allowed to ever begin to exist as socialist societies. That's all folks.

@Klas Wullt Let's go through all of that, then, superior knowledgeable being. Fascism is indeed a reaction to something, but it is not a reaction to socialism. Historically, fascism has always sprung up during times of capitalist crisis - namely, the interwar period - which was of absolute devastation in Europe. During those times, people become desperate, and desperate people polarize. You see socialists and you see fascists emerge, as both options are - in some degree - solutions to the desperation of the people. You are seeing it happen now. It has happened in the US in the eighteen hundreds. It is not a new phenomenon at all. So yes, fascism is a reaction, but it is a reaction to a capitalist economic crisis, not a reaction to socialism. Now, I never once mentioned Marx, but I do understand why you brought him up. I'd like to mention that Marx isn't the only socialist there ever was, and there are various ways of understanding socialism beyond Marx's ideas - and the same applies to communism. In fact, socialism (or at least the seeds of what would be called socialism) existed before Marx wrote any of his works. In fact, socialist uprisings - namely the Paris Commune - were big influences in the way that Marx and many thinkers of his time interpreted socialism. It was also around that time that the divide between Anarchist thinkers and Marxist thinkers became sharper. I've never heard anyone speak of Fascism as "Economic Idealist", so I'll need you to elaborate on that if you want a reply on that aspect from me. "Fascism is politics that empathize nature,biology,culture,history and high idealism." Some things you got right, some things you got wrong. Let's go through them. Fascism is politics that emphasize nature and biology is your first claim. I urge you to take a step back. Fascism doesn't emphasize nature and biology - it emphasizes how one specific group sees nature and biology. It might look at lobsters and see how they are patriarchal, but it ignores how killer whales are matriarchal. It might look at eagles and observe how they are lone predators that stand high in the food chain due to their "superior" abilities, but it ignores how other species of animals cooperate in order to protect themselves from said predators. Fascism looks at humanity, determines a norm (that, by the way, is socially conceived), and evaluates everyone according to that norm. If people are far enough away from that norm due to any biological/natural reason, they deserve subpar treatment, eugenics, etc. This is happening right now with immigrant policization in the USA, and it happened before with immigrant policization in the EU. People looked at immigrants and said "They didn't follow the rules to escape death, therefore they are fundamentally different from us. They must be put in detention centers." Fascism is politics that emphasize culture is your second claim. I have to digress - or at least, ask you to see culture differently. Culture isn't what happened before. Culture is ever present and ever evolving. There is no "right" culture. What fascism truly emphasizes is tradition and conservatism. Which is completely natural. It's a hypernationalistic ideology, it has to find something to apply that nationalism to. Fascism is politics that emphasize history and idealism is your third claim. Again, it doesn't emphasize History, it emphasizes the history that it wants to tell. Portuguese fascism didn't emphasize the pre-colonial times where we were a struggling economy. It emphasized the colonial period where we were world-powers. Fascism doesn't look at History open mindedly, it looks for specific things which evoke the narrative it desires - one that is affective and brings people onto it. And yes, in the midst of all this, it is incredibly idealistic. I think I replied to the verse that comes after all this somewhere in the middle of these past paragraphs. Fascism does indeed follow a hierarchical conception of the world, but it is not a conception that is universally true. It is a conception that is picked by a specific group. Now onto socialism! Socialism does indeed put a lot of emphasis in the material relationships between the people. To socialists in general, material conditions are at the core of most situations and actions. You got that right! I have to say... socialism doesn't make a distinction between "the rich" and "the poor". It makes a distinction between "the capitalists" and "the working class". This is an important difference, because you can be rich and be working class. As an avid reader that you are, you probably know what the difference between the capitalist class and working class is, right? Just in case: the capitalists own the means of production, the working class work the means of production. The capitalists pay the working class in wages and get to keep the surplus value that they produce - which is called profit. Turns out that in a Capitalist world, profit is the main motivation for action. "Socialism destroys art, culture and idealism" What a bold claim we have here. I would rephrase it somewhat like... "Capitalism destroys art and culture.". As you probably know, in Capitalism, money makes the world go 'round. If you don't have money... oh poor you, you starve and die. So what is happens if you want to create Art in Capitalism? Well... either you are rich (not necessarily a capitalist) and can afford to spend time creating art for expression or you are not and are obligated to make your art profitable, marketable, etc. Turns out marketable art is only a tiny subsection of art - believe me, I'm an artist. As an artist, I am forced to follow trends, to follow styles, to stifle self exploration of my art because I want food on my plate tomorrow. I cannot make my art freely. If anything, Capitalism is destroying my art - or at least stifling it endlessly. Now, in a socialist society? Well, if a socialist society was ever properly achieved, profit wouldn't be the main motivator. You wouldn't have to worry about getting food on your plate every day. I'll tell you why: in current material conditions, we produce more than 1.5x enough food for everybody on the planet alive today. And it sits in the halls of supermarkets waiting for the day someone has the money to go buy it, instead of going to the people who would actually eat it. There is plenty of surplus food. Same for clothing. There are houses that are empty while people are living on the streets. In modern material conditions, we wouldn't need 8h workdays to produce enough resources for everbody alive. We'd need less time. Even Kropotkin mentioned it: If everybody worked four hours for five days of the week, there would be enough production to supply everyone alive. That was a hundred yearas ago. Nowadays? Even less. There would be plenty of free time for people to make art without worrying about their next meal or a roof over their heads. Art would flourish, not dwindle, under a socialist society. I haven't read Mein Kampf. The colour of Hitler's soul is between him and God. All I care about are his actions, and his actions were not those of someone seeking socialism.

@kaminoshiyo JBP always brings him up as an example of enlightened Western thinkers alongside Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, etc.

Jordan Peterson talks about yung and how profound his ideas about the archetype and the role of religion and mythologies are yet jordan ignores the other part of yungs argument as presented in the video, which is that the very things that he is so cherished of (mythology, religion, spirituality) are being crushed by modernity and capitalism, the two things he also happens to be a defender of. Basically points to his self contradiction.

@@frankguan5044 JP CLEARLY does not ignore that, its 1 of the main things he goes on about, with the exception of laying it at the feet of capitalism. Modernity yes, but capitLism? Because Communism was all about propping up traditional religion myth and spirituality right? Hahaha so ridiculous

i mean one can critique capitlism without supporting communism can they not?

@@henrymoore4522 sure, as much as one can "defend" capitalism while "cherishing" religion, myth, and spirituality. I'm just not seeing the alleged "contradiction"

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The intro triggered a Pavlovian response to get up and make a cup of tea. Sweet Lullaby was seared into my subconscious by a local TV station that used it as their self-branding ad between programs from the mid 90s until their licence changed and they were allowed to run for-profit ads. Thanks SBS.

Jim lastname - I miss those days as well. Growing up in the 80s and early 90s one of the most transformative experiences was watching SBS. Having a station that was not English exclusive and was curated by people who were able to put things on television simply because they felt it was important people saw them, rather out of the profit motive, was one of the best things about Australia. I'm still sad we lost the battle over SBS' funding.

Yeah, for me the song was forever imprinted on my mind by the Adelphia channel in Los Angeles. I think that's what Time Warner/Spectrum was called in the late 90's. I used to take naps to it as a kid, they played all sorts of new age ambient music. It's probably part of a conspiracy by all the local TV stations of the time, probably some kind of hidden messages about Satan or something if you play it backwards. *joking*

lol the intro is absolutely ridiculous 90s cringe but the album itself is fantastic imho

@Jim lastname Why yes, I always listen to my CDs backwards 😉

@shortbuspileup i. Think this happened because of the. Dissapointment caused by the fall of the soviet union and the pursuit of socialism ,we've been living the last 20 yesrs without a purpose or cause to fight for, kids nowdays have existencials crisis and turn to nihilism because they feel that theres no alternative, no choices to change their lives

There were great things about the 90s. Electronic music genres like Techno, Trance, House Music, Jungle, Drum&Bass and so on. Great TV shows and awesome cartoons.

The 90s were a Golden Age compared to now, let me tell you !

Better than now tbh

Yes, they were.

Parenting is a Biological investent for you genes future. And that takes fors depending on your surroundings. For us humans it eans being well of onetary ebcause that means shelter, food, status, etc. In any econoic system, raising children so that they will care for you, whether with oney or not, is in fact "a job". In a commune were ultiple people parent multiple children at the same time, even if none of those children is their own. They do so because in the sae way in the commune the children will indiscriminately care for the elders. Parenting is always a fucking job to secure your future well being. Has nothing to do with capitalism and is really quite simple.

@@cba000abc000 you're a clear example of that obsession with idealizing the past/present.

@Sean Yeo I see your comment is a year old and I don't mean to dredge up old comments via KZfaq for petty political arguments, but that being said, here goes nothing hahaha. I think you make a fair point about the neoliberal capitalism supposition of remuneration. You're right. Perhaps the industrialized world is imposing it's own value systems on the people from the unindustrialized world. I think the point the video is making, however: is that neoliberal capitalism didn't even ask the people what they wanted! It just exploited them. It took what it needed, turned a profit from it and discarded the rest. Furthermore, to add insult to injury it did so under the guise of multiculturalism. That's part of what the video is trying to point out. Cheers.

@@gohannesgrahms I agree. Its the intention

@@gohannesgrahms I was about halfway through re-wording my comment when I saw you'd already said most of what I was going to say. I'd to go further by adding that, within the framework of our *own* capitalist, neoliberal culture, those who appropriate such cultural components are being hypocrites. Remember, the different established capitalist powers were fighting with one another over the rights to the music as if it were their *right* while completely ignoring the rights they should have provided to the person they stole the music from. It's arrogance on an incredible level, since they must necessarily act as if they're *morally* in the right for holding the rights to the music, while by the morality they claim to adhere to, the original creator should be the one who should have the rights to the music. Also, at the same time as whatever fetishized culture is being commodified (often without their permission), said culture is being pushed back and erased by that same system that claimed to want to promote multiculturalism.

The same with "Ethnic" music. Basically the whole world, with the exception of the "Anglo-sphere", lumped into one category.

I have the same despise with the term "Ethnic" for anything culturally non-western, usually from "brown people". Don't say this shitty word, at least try to say the region that piece of culture came from, such as Arabia or Iran or North Africa.

These terms have utility bridging a chasm between the mainstream western mind and the other amidst it.

good words

Well thought.

Well it wasnt to a pure tribal existence, but even in the renaissance they were "looking back" to the ancient greeks and to what they thought was even earlier, hermes trismegistus...

Montaigne has his own primitivism in On Cannibals. Some version of the idea seems to have been around for a long time.

I suppose the 60’s counter culture didn’t quite incorporate Tolkien’s racialisation via his constant emphasis on bloodlines and distinctions between the different races of his fantasy world. Too much blood and soil for 60s counter culturists surely.

I agree. I have recently heard a lot of people relating it to late capitalism as well or as a reaction to "the coming singularity" through "A.I." and "modern technology" (I add quotes because I think most of those concepts are just wet dreams of few in the 1% and those who have wet dreams of being in that clique. I don't think that the technology available to most people is that impressive at all but I digress). I think the tendency to "go back" to pure or non industrialized times comes from something much deeper. A good example of this is Marie Antoinette's Hamlet, aka "mock farm", which was Antoinette's way of holding on to the modus vivendi of ·the good ol days", so basically while living in a time where she didn't even have plumbing available to her, she was already yearning for "simpler times".. that says a lot about this human tendency and while perhaps late capitalism exploits it or exacerbates it in some way, I don't think it's exclusive of late capitalism either.

Lol

Love, devotion, feeling, emotion, and so on and so on.

Lmao

Thats pretty good. Sure will look it up

Get a pair of Nikes and be like Jim, knit a hat, buy a red hat, eat vegan food, choose the carnivore diet, read books by the latest crazy person, read another book by another crazy person refutating the other crazy, wave a flag, burn a flag, like or dislike, defend a minority, hate a minority, be the new minority, find answers, ignore answers, be sane, be insane, believe in god, believe in the environment, guns kill people, people kill people, lives matter, a life is worth one bullet, study philosophy, live in a barrel, be in the barrel, conquer the market, hate the market...

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@@joermundgand Life is miserable... what is the alternative? is heaven on earth possible?

@@alr12 No, because heaven isn't possible because humans are present.

He and your mom's bf love you back

This and contrapoints provides some excellent cultural critique

as an HxH fan, your username name made me laugh😆

@@sanidhyagaur3474 😉

its like the recuperation of anti capitalist works as commodities and branding. there is no ideology to 'profit before all else' and so markets will always seek to find a way to exploit even anticapitalist sentiment without any internal conflict

Defiant Badger The market is in part you and everyone else.

speaking of ideology

Exactly, beig communist is just an ideological product from capitalism.

Yeah, but this makes me think of earlier comments when people complain about travelling away to find people having mobile phones and enjoying coke in far away and poorer places, it doesn't mean there aren't other cultures and transformative things with potential just because capitalism has subsumed many parts of culture and life globally. Culture is a rich, human and creative thing, it's worth learning about and seeing I guess. I think it's a kind of cynical and narrow minded way of thinking to think that these kind of rebellions to do things outside of capitalism only lead to more capitalism than having other transformative affects be honest, although I do agree these things have also made capital a more fluid and inescapable thing, I think it does still give pockets of space for subjective development to resist capital, worth muling over more I guess, one idea is acid communism I've looked into recently could be worth checking out.

Its a relevant question. I think that the lecture and writings are more in depths of relation to the theme that Cuck shows us. I mean sure, Toto is idealistic and in the pejorative way, but in this case scenarios the plagiarism of ethnic culture and the misrepresentation is more relevant, than the viewpoint of liberal musicians in the 80's, whose related the "primitive" way of life to the romantique idea of being "african". About this kind of ethno - first world viewpoints there's a fantastic writing from Jean Fisher - "The Syncretic Turn" where she writes about South American artists and their way of representation in the contemporary art. She says that the art society sometimes want them to do artworks that are connected to their origins, and the preconceptions of their nationality their way of primitive life. Like: "You are from an indian tribe... why don't you represent your culture?" - which is very racist, and ordinary disguisting; should they? Like, necessary? Or is that the assimilation is the way to go as their choose of free will. Also if they start to copy the art of the first world's art which is the other side of the case, they might loose their pure cultural habits. Jean says that there must be an opened way in between where artists could do whatever and it might be in syncretic relation to their original culture, or represent the - as thinking outside of the box - whole problematic of being judged for copying contemporary art, or being "indian" "negro" or whatever...

Because it's a banger of a song.

also the victory of the good guys over the cartoonish evil corporation is very rarely revolutionary and the result is also not revolutionary; they simple slightly improve the capitalism that they live under. the monopolistic mega corporation is evil, yes, but the system it rules over and our status quo existence is presented as good. the victory is just a slight re-balancing act fisher actually goes into this with the film wall-e: capitalism has destroyed the entire planet, yet it continues without crises on corporate-ran spacecraft. the eventual victory of the film is that the corporation-owned robot is able to bring the humans back to earth, the earth having fixed itself somehow, and they can continue to live happily on earth as they did before... all this while enjoying the anti-corporate message at a monopolised cinema complex drinking coca-cola. letting hollywood do our revolutionary thinking stunts our ability to critique the status quo

By the same argument, you are hypocritical for criticizing capitalism via comments on a mega-corporation's website. Some of these films convey class and exploitation to a young adult audience that may have never considered them before. They can be a doorway to new attitudes, not just a palliative escape.

Brilliantly said. You perfectly described the faux-cathartic nature that is inherent to modern resistance fiction. In some ways, Mr. Robot could be added to that list, with it embodying this kind of empty (defanged) cathartic resistance. When the issues comprising the show's main themes of capitalist alienation and corporate greed are finally resolved, one is subconsciously tricked, if only for a brief while, into believing that its real world counterpart has been dealt with as well. Yet the real world issue still remains. Ironically, the show's anti capitalist rhetoric is distributed for public consumption by USA Network, a large broadcasting conglomerate. This unequal power dynamic in which the show's anti capitalist message heavily relies on its antithesis -- a large faceless corporation -- for its dissemination to the masses, results in its gradual co-optation by the distributor. The message is removed of its original political legitimacy and incorporated into capitalism's evergrowing toolkit.

Good point. And i find it a bit naive that a video about neoliberals and music centers it’s argument mainly on 2 performers/artists (deep forest and enigma). It seems highly unlikely that two by that time established artists did their own negotiations. This was probably done by the lawyers of the labels they signed to. So it where not deep forest and enigma who did not pay any royalties or broke the promise not to use the sweet lullaby song in comercials, it was the record label that made these choices.

I got a sudden urge of cleaning my room and fighting Neo Post-Modern Marxists right at that moment of the video.

Time to play J B P W A V E

@kaminoshiyo JP has a boner for Jung.

The old Tyler Durden method.

Suddenly I had a craving for lobster

The woman listening to world music as she buys products made by debts peons and child slaves of the third world, the irony lost to her.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's Five Finger Death Punch, AC/DC, and Migos in the ears of our hired killers.

I think the problem is the opposite- Capitalism is a little too good at papering over crisis until they hit a boiling point and explode. Things were a lot better in the 90's without the crisis, but that was only because the system had it's means of hiding the underlying issues (worker's wages and foreign exploitation).

CA P because humanity can't exist without crisis. But to be honest, that "capitalism is the root of all problems" attitude is amusing.

@onlyhas99 Congratulations, you are an anti-liberal economist: www.uni-bielefeld.de/cias/wiki/c_Crisis.html

Humans can't exist without crisis. Communsim and Capitalism are disfunctional due to the human element. So far capitalsim has proven to be ironically less corruptable than comminism or rather so many people are corrupting it, it's being pulled in so many directions so no one imparticular person has absolute control so anyone in the middle class is just in the eye of the storm and hence not affecting them in a way that they care about.

@@johnercek: actually, I completely agree. Crisis is essential, it forces its constant maintenance, which is why it's really hard to dispense with as an economic system. It's like trying to save up to buy a new, more fuel efficient car while at the same time constantly needing to supply new parts for a hoopty that you can't afford to let break down or else you won't be able to get to work.

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no fuckin doubt mate

...and as a bonus DCD always correctly give credit when they adapt other people's music because they aren't douchebags...

Dead Can Dance are geniuses.

I love your content @Modern Hermeticist

I would consider it a perfect example of orientalism.

Leukemia watch it later

Thanks

i hope you are not too hangover

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did you watch it m8?

Yes.

yeah but its more about "with our burgers and nike shoes we are corrupting the simple and innocent lifestyle of these people". Basically still believing that others lifestyle is primitive and simple. Just some orientalist bs to be short

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@@noumena9463 idiot

That's because it's just exploitation combined with liberal ideology, a well known phenomenom outlied in Marxist theory. "Cultural appropriation" is unnecessary to describe it, and there's a reason for rejecting this term within the left. "Cultural appropriation", as it is used, is frequently liberal when it's used to shun and blame individuals (workers) for simply partaking in activities or wearing clothing not from their culture of birth (which is fascist), labeling them as cultural appropriators. It's trying to achieve some sort of reactionary cultural purity while attacking workers for how the bourgeoisie commodifies all things... Which they do, naturally, because we live in capitalism. There's no modern capitalism without imperialism and some sort of cultural exploitation. You can end the commodification of all things if you don't want Americans to profit off of clothes with Chinese characters, Mexican symbols or tribal drawings, otherwise it is impossible to fight just this particular aspect of capitalism. And workers are never at fault for liking music or clothes, ever. This kind of misguided attack happens when you have a real grudge against capitalism but don't have Marxism; you end up fighting your equals. Maybe the term doesn't ACTUALLY mean that, maybe it refers to the sistemic issues, but I've personally seen it being used in this "anti-worker" way several times, but fortunately only by students in academic circles which drink for the American fountain of liberalism. So, because of the praxis associated with this expression, we choose to reject it.

I don't feel I need to tell a Marxist that just because a piece of theory is misunderstood and misapplied that this makes a piece of theory invalid. Cultural appropriation as an abstract concept is morally neutral. In some cases it's a good thing. As a random example, when I was last over in Thailand I found that they had appropriated Jamaican culture in a big way, but as a means of liberating themselves from their socially conservative upbringing and with the culture being shared communally as opposed to through privately manufactured commodities. On the other hand, a morally repugnant example is the one stated in this video. Therefore I don't agree that cultural appropriation is necessarily always just a combination of exploitation and liberal ideology, I think the concept is best summed up by it's very name, i.e. it's literally just the act of appropriating a different culture, nothing more, nothing less. However, I do agree that too many people misunderstand it and blanket demonise any act of cultural appropriation and that this can in some cases attack innocent workers.

lol, aint no right wing people here, this is just another liberal echo chamber with extremely convoluted attempts to defend their political stance.

@george crouche, nice self-defeating comment there

>lol, aint no right wing people here I'm center-right and I subscribed here 4 month ago.

Watch his video on kpop. Called "The late stage capitalism of kpop" I think.

Martin Ersatz there was an interesting article about Said that I read recently that discussed his inconsistencies both in his personal history, and in his theories: www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/enough-said-false-scholarship-edward-said

I guess, but, the venom of the author aside, Said wasn't a historian. Attacking him for not meeting the standards of academic history misses the point. Orientalism presents a broad model and challenge to consider, not unquestioningly accept or regurgitate. Similarly, you can punch holes in Foucault's Discipline and Punish as a work of history and point out it's a book written about torture and the body by a man into gay S&M, but again this misses the point; the panopticon remains an incredibly powerful metaphor and heuristic device.

Reaction to an overly sanitized life, dirt is an requirement but not always a choice.

​There's still a tension between those who think they're better people because of the facilities whilst being bored by thought of a rigged system - and those who realise that something is lost in fetishised modernity and seek more equalisation and less logo.

Looks like the video for Deep Forest's "Lullaby ", if that's what you're referring to.

Weird that the X Files theme was on it. What's so World Music about that? And Jan Hammers theme from LA Vice. Very odd inclusions indeed.

Iridescence93 wow. There's a stupid person here who thinks the march of neoliberalism has stopped at some point and that were not currently living in the thick of it.

+dolphwong No, I didn't say that. I said neoliberalism has changed since the 90s and the new form is worse.

Iridescence93 the reference to Trump and Putin made me think that you thought we were in the midst of some sort of conservative revolution.

+dolphwong Thatcher and Reagan started the revolution if you want to call it that. Trump and Putin are just accelerating it a lot and adding a scary strain of xenophobia and sexism to an already bad ideology.

tiglath pileser hahahaha..... You're funny. Alright so there's this thing. It's called a Jewish person..... You should look into that.