Did anyone else notice that when Connor said "There's one person in this room who doesn't think I'm a joke", in the background blurred you can see Lucas point to himself with both hands comically

I love the line “reverse Viking. Pillage their village.” Kendall is always puking out verbal diarrhea with his buzzwords and nonsensical insults and “business terms” and finally this line actually makes sense and has an air of Logan to it. It’s funny, but it’s actually pretty on point. That being said, i very much doubt that’s gonna work lol

What’s wild is that it’s only been 4 days since Logan’s death, and since then they’ve all lived some of the most consequential days of their lives, I could only imagine they level of sleep deprivation Tom is feeling, 4 days ago he was on a plane w/ Logan dying, then he was in Sweden, then living plus launch, now the tailgate party, after dealing with all the changes in the company, then then election? It’s the busiest week of all time

I was almost expecting Tom to jump from the balcony. But, well, he loves his money, his watches and his career.

Greg the Eggxecutioner - that's an interesting spin. "I look like I care, but I actually don't". Even the Swedes were somewhat impressed.

Been waiting all day lol

Rewatching season 1 of succession, Kendall says to Roman ‘I love you but you are not a serious person’, exactly what Logan says to all the children in their last meeting. Another parallel

Funnily enough, the “tight 90” thing Connor says about the funeral might have been a little meta. Jesse Armstrong confirmed the final episode is 90 minutes

This show is so great at making the audience pay attention to the power dynamics of each scene. During the scene where Greg is doing the mass layoffs we can see Tom off camera mocking the devastated employees. It’s comical, but Tom is a smug douchebag. Ironically, later that evening, he is the lowest person on the totem pole for an event thrown in his own home. We have sympathy for him, and his job being on he line, despite the fact that less than 12hrs earlier he was callously destroying the lives of dozens of employees. Man this show is great!

Less than one week until Connor Roy becomes President of the United States

I knew that Tom being so tired was going to be an issue. When he started getting heated, I was like "here it is, stop talking Tom!" They covered every base in that balcony fight, everything that's been built upon up until now. There's too much to process with each sibling individually.

Alan Ruck is so underrated! How he conveys Connor, the least meaningful Roy, is so refined. Connor comes off magnetic, confident, so convinced of his own reality, and so hilarious. I love his portayal. The actor should get more roles.

Did anyone else reflect on what Logan said in the family therapy session? It was all for the kids was the same sentiment echoed by one of "the kids"

I can't believe you had the basketball GOAT convo without bringing up the fact that he named his son after Allen Iverson

I loved the wine subplot in this episode. In the argument, Tom says that Shiv tried to appease him with some "undrinkable wine" after he dodged prison. Tom was offering the wine to Nate and telling him it separated the connoisseurs from the day drinkers, but in reality, Tom just wanted his enemy to drink a bunch of terrible wine and feel like he had bad taste. Frank even commented that the wine smelled like wet dog.

I’m not convinced Mattsen isn’t playing us, too. If he really trusted Shiv with such potentially damaging info (and it wasn’t just a ploy), if he really had such an unnecessary and public fight with his ex in the presence of his enemies where they’d immediately have both cause to think she’d betray him AND access to her; if Ebba would really give up such damaging company info after such a superficial and transparent show of “sympathy” from Kendall (instead of leaking this damaging info to the press)…if all this isn’t some ruse by Lukas, then he’s worse at this than any of the Roy kids. I don’t know what his endgame would be if it’s all a ruse. But all these errors seem just too good to be true. Just too convenient for the most damaging info to come out at this party and all because of a situation he caused. 🤷‍♀️

Two classic Logan lines that had a lot or relevance to scenes in this episode: "Everything I have done, I've done for my children.." Kendall/Rava secene "Sometimes it is just a Big Dick contest.." Kendall/Mattson scene

i love how mattsen is physically imposing yet comes off as such a little troll . he bullies everyone all episode but right when ken lets him know low key i know ur dirt he pussies out and immediately leaves the party lmaooo

1) “Your sense of who you are is THAT fucking thin/You’re too transparent to find in a book.” 2) “You wouldn’t be a good person to have children” 3) “It’s not my fault that you never got his (Logan’s) approval.” Tom throwing serious haymakers in that whole exchange.

At this point, they’ll do an episode called “Cousin Greg’s Goldeneye Tournament”, and it’s going to be about Karl going postal on the Roys.

Kendall is just a rich Michael Scott.

What if “Greg?” does end up number 2 and is Kendall’s 2nd in command like he predicted in the will reading? He already told Tom he is going on the brothers team. Kendall doesn’t sound like he plans on keeping Shiv or Roman around but Greg is still doing favors for him. In the end if Kendall doesn’t screw this up Greg may be the only one left when the dust settles.

You guys and Dr. Ramani are my top faves to listen to post Succession episodes this season (sad but for this to be the last). I so agree, the writing is so fuji apple crisp!! acting is top notch as usual!

When you guys talked about how personal abuse is brushed aside but trying to pull a fast one to Wall Street is unforgivable, it reminded me of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. She drove a scientist to suicide and jeopardized millions of people with their health test results (some with cancer) and yet she was caught for defrauding her investors. Money always speaks louder than everything else…

the lebron and graduation jokes are so fucking hilarious and accurate

On the Roman and Gerri argument, I thought her line that she could’ve got him there was interesting. She could’ve, but made the decision to side with Logan with respect to the GoJo deal at the end of season 3. She asks “how does it serve my interests?” As much as Roman pissed her off, I think that she would’ve acted in her interests regardless of whether or not they were in better terms. It felt like something to spite him, in the same vein as the Roman comment that she was bad at her job last episode, despite the fact that she was quite fucking good at it. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s how it felt to me.

I feel like there's a chance that Mattson and Ebba might be playing the Roys, and that there's nothing wrong with their numbers at all.

Is it just me or has Kendals divorce taken forever to settle!!! Lol it’s been going on since ep 1! I’m feeling very skeptical about this Ebba storyline as it’s not passing the smell test and seemed to be a bit too easy for her to spill the tea to strangers about Madsen…. Might be a setup. Thoughts? 🤓

What my wOMAN thinks about Oman 😂😂😂

25:17 I only found out today that his last name is actually Macfadyen, not Macfayden. Glad I'm not alone 😂

Yeah, Connor and Will have been great this season as they were honest with each other. The Tom-Shiv explosion was bound to happen. And it's a great Emmy submission. I don't buy that Frank is on Ken's side. To me, it looked like he was thinking, oh, Ken, what are you doing.

Mogadishu "Too car-bomb-mee"

Roman wants to BE logan, kendall wants to be better than logan. They have both failed at their own goal repeatedly. But they're both crushing it at their brother's goal.

Checked the tube for this every few hours in between studying for finals. Thanks fellas!

When they were arguing and Tom said she would be fine and she has spent all evening walking around 40 of the most powerful people in the country I thought he was going to direct her attention to the fact she’s hosting all those important people instead of his imminent firing. She’s got the money to live very comfortably for the rest of her life with mansions, helicopters, jets and whatever shit she wants with some powerful people being contacts. It’s a nice showcase of how much self-awareness she lacks t5hat she couldn’t see that.

I love how getting shitty wine is on par with going to prison for Tom.

Tom saying Shiv shouldn't be a mother echoes what Shiv's mom saying that she herself shouldn't have been a mother, which affected Shiv at the time. Hearing that from Tom cut deep for her judging by the look on her face.

I still don't get Matsson. I got kinda closer to getting him, but still... The show kinda shows 2 Matssons. One is a good and smart businessman, another is a bumbling idiot (smart, but stupid) dressed up like a pimp doing shit that will end his business career eventually. And it's not that it can't be both, but I'm still not 100% sure about Ebba stuff. Still feels like it's a trap for Roys to fall into. But maybe it's not. But then Matsson is actually kinda stupid, while he probably isn't.

It's like untying a knot; it all comes together as the knot gets unraveled.

Tom should go to the board tell them he still has files on the Deaths and Sexual Harrasments coming from the Cruise Ships, and he will go public with them unless they fire Kendall and Roman and make him CEO.

Thank you, great review and thoughts again

I feel that Episode 8 is the rise of Connor - election kingmaker.

Yayyy I was just thinking about this review whoop whoop : )

I wonder what the true ratio of minutes in each episode/season is to the minutes of reviewing/critiquing/summarizing/analyzing generated about them… each episode generates its own little content weather system

Listen when the guy told Kendall their not Gil and Logan really stuck w me. ' and thats a good thing ' definitely see (or hope) a eyeopener in the statement

Immediately got so bricked up at this drop noti

Jesse Armstrong said episode 8 is the one that’ll likely shock us the most!

The Slim Reaper 😃

Ambassador talk was fun. I feel like Connor was very wrong to turn down Slovakia or Slovenia. Very nice places.

11:42 thank you for discussing this, don’t see this mentioned on other Secession channels, in Season 1 I was terrified Logan would come for the women when he did his “four on the floor” crap, so afraid for Gerri lol

I absolutely love Wylla and Connor

Connor and Willa seem like the kind of couple that would be in a Real Housewives of…NY whatever. How much you want to bet, it’s discussed at least?

The question I had is why did Willa tell Connor to keep running for President? My only answer is she’s literally trolling the family.

Don't want to excuse the zoom firings, but it was mentioned that the people on the call were their international staff 16:38

I was lost for a while now when Kendall kept letting Roman get a pass with his huge fuck ups starting with giving Menkeen free reign over the way ATN covers him and the election, then the blow up on the mountain with Mattson, then his two bone headed firings, but now it makes sense Kendall is setting Roman up to hang himself when it's time to pick the permanent CEO but unlike Logan the way Kendall is doing it his siblings can't actually blame him even though they will. I think this show ends with Kendall winning the "crown" but losing his entire family a truly bitter sweet ending.

Love the coverage 🎉 just wanted to point out pronunciation- Matthew McFad-yen ✌️

Just an observation that I thought is quite funny: in all the videos on this episode that I've seen people say that Willa truly supports Connor and that's why he decides to stay in the game, like it's so sweet that he's finally got someone who believes in him... meanwhile it's very clear from the acting and the little half-words that the only reason she sides with him about staying in the race is that she doesn't want to live in Oman or Somalia if he becomes an ambassador!!! She knows he's got no chance of winning so convincing him to stay in the race and not take the Oman offer is the best guarantee of her life staying more or less the way it's now, rich and safe, which is what she wanted :-D (and she never thought his candidacy was a good idea in the first place - though it's true that ultimately she never undermined him, so yeah, they probably are the healthiest relationship in the series. Although that's not saying much haha!). So these commenters are a little bit like Connor in this case: all seemingly taken in by her subtle manipulation, because she's been doing such a good job of playing the supportive and submissive partner, but if you just properly look at her face (which Connor hardly ever does in those crucial situations), you know exactly what she's really thinking. And it's funny to me because I've seen and been in this situation many times in real life: situations when a man could easily read the true feelings of a woman if he but really looked at her reactions and wasn't so wrapped up in what he WANTS her to think instead of what she really thinks, meanwhile she's simply either resigning herself to it unwillingly or trying to influence him subtly without hurting his feelings or antagonising him.

I basically mostly find the female characters somewhat okay. They’re all selfish no doubt, though they are not straight up abusive and sometimes fascist criminals. I’ll take Gerri, Shiv, Willa, Karolina any day over Roman, Mattson, Ken, Mencken. Eeek.

My prediction havent fully fleshed this out. Kendall slowly burns every bridge over the next 2.5 episodes. Roman has a public meltdown giving the speech at the funeral, Ken uses that at reasoning why he should be the solo CEO. They buy Gojo for an embarrassing low price. Kendall looks like a genius. Shiv sees that there is no place for her at ATN, uses Nate and somehow ends up as the head of Pierce (maybe by swinging the election to Jimenez) Setting up Kendall (alone, hated by his children and family, starting to become feared) vs. Shiv as the heads of the two extreme sides of American political news for the future. The two siblings fighting for decades. Kendall finally getting everything he ever wanted, finally capable and becoming the closest version to Logan he possibly he could.

Im commenting at the start of this podcast, but i have to say, I saw a moment or two where Roman REALLY morphed into Logan in his speech and actions. I truly believe that Roman will come out on top in the long run. Just my opinion... Also, Mattson had me laughing so hard this episode 😂, he was enjoying every awkward moment and sibling argument lol. Greg.... oh Greg.... that guy has become heartless 😂😂😂

I think Kendall ends up in jail for killing the waiter

we are all dicks that is why Shev and Tom actually hurt to watch

Kenny becoming his dad on the aspect of neglecting his kids and thinking he’s doing it for them. Hope he can turn that around before the end of the show. I was hoping to see more of Nate. And now that they know about the India numbers hopefully they can do a reserve 🤠 on Matsson.

Easy on the Bron slander 💀🤣

"let's go 80's Kubrick on them, yeah? Full metal jacket this shit?" is character spec writing

Nerd Soup, have you guys ever seen the show Yellowjackets on Showtime? I feel like a show like that would right up your alley. You guys are the best, been a fan of yours for years now.

The only reason Tom and Shiv should stay together is to keep them out of an open and unwitting market.

Another great episode. They said there's parallels with a real life tech bro who isnt actually a coder. Who is that.

Amazing … they were all left millions but they still want more!

Gerri FTW

@3:00 "why can't anybody just be rich ... and that's enough?" - *THIS!!!!* For me, this puts Succession at a negative 5 star handicap. And yet, it's so insanely brilliant in writing and acting that I'm addicted to it anyway. But the inability of the characters to see that they could do anything they can dream of with their lives - even more than the fact that all the characters are so hateable - makes me want to hate the show. But I love it anyway. Like this one - it totally out-Virginia Woolf's Virginia Woolf. Sarah Snook's acting is just so great. But I mean ... pick anything you're interested in. Let's say you love golf. You could hire Tiger Woods to give you daily lessons. If you love music you could either have the greatest teachers or you could go around and find talented people and give them 10 million each. You could go scuba diving in Little Cayman and jet off to London to see a concert. You could have live in masseuses, cooks ... I mean, 10 billion of exposable wealth would let you do anything, help anybody, see everything, experience everything. And yet they sit around and scheme to try to get control of a stupid nazi cable channel that lies to idiot rednecks and makes them do stupid horrible things. AAAAAHHHHRRRHRHRHTHERHHG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matsson is just awesome anyway, actually. He does have a bit of bad taste, but I really liked those 2 moments. Moment 1 Tom: *some standard ass-kissing pitch* Matsson: Oh, I get it, you're gonna kiss my ass Moment 2 Matsson: I thought they are complicated people. But it's just money and gossip Shiv: yeah, it is just money and gossip

So love thos show

3:07 because if you're already rich, you want power

Ep should be titled “ended relationships”, Tom/ Shiv, Kendall/Rava, Roman/Gerri.

Sarah Snook was/is really pregnant so I don't think they could eliminate the fictional baby. She'll only be getting bigger during filming. :o

The only way an ending would work for succession is Either No one gets anything or all of them get a chunk of everything.

All the girl boss edits of shiv 3 weeks ago have aged like a bag of milk

What if the story with Ebba is a fabricated mindf$@k from Lucas to throw off the Roy sibs and conquer from within🤔? I’m still struggling to understand why this Ebba storyline is so easily accessible. First Lucas spills the beans to Shiv all Willy-Neely as though he was bearing his soul to a lifelong buddy - only AFTER seeing how Ken and Roman kept her out the loop. Then Ebba goes full transparency with Rome and Ken at the party. I think what we’re actually seeing is a true master chess player (Lucas) matching up with a bunch of juvenile, self defacing pompous brats who are simply “not Serious People”😅

I thought that Rava scene was her bringing up her as a parent, “where were you?” isn’t an automatic accusation, she said she saw it only maybe from where I thought Rava was very unreasonable with Ken (and further episodes see her going further) she does what she wants with the kids and hates if he did something without talking to her. Ken should’ve kept his cool though agreed.

I dont know if I buy the whole Matsson sending bags of blood to Ebba or the whole India thing?

Three “very’s”, 😂

The idea that Mattson is making the India stuff up as an strategy it's just...not that type of show. I guess Billions does that, but Succession is more unconventional in the sense that not every episode ends with a cliffhanger and a Shyamalan-esque twist. The "Twist" could be that Kendall, looking like he's gonna drop the ball again, actually comes out up top. He wins the crown, but lose his soul. He's high on power but miserable at the same time. That's a twist, but one that makes sense with the theatrical and shakespearian formality of the show. What's also a twist, is revealing that Mattson is not tech bro young Logan, he's just a clown. He's Elon Musk, a supposed genius that hasn't built anything in his life, he's just buying stuff and putting his name on it, while sitting on the backs of scientist and engineers. We kinda got confirmation that the blood stuff is real because Roman, who's quite good at digging dirt on people (he did that with Kendall) found out about it, without Shiv revealing that info. And the potential nuclear fallout that this scenario present for Mattson, basically commiting fraud, makes his insistence on finish the deal quickly, make total sense. He called Kendall on the karaoke episode almost threating him to not fuck the deal. He even dropped more money to bypass Kendall and Roman and send the offer directly to the board, even after Roman outburst. The India numbers where revealed only because Mattson thinks he can get away with anything, without realizing that the toxic relationship with his PR lady (nordic Tom and Shiv dynamic) is gonna sink him.

I'm calling it now, Connor is gonna win Alaska and hilarity will ensue

Wow never been so early.

I think they never would’ve gotten that information out of Ebba without Kendall. Roman is no where near as charismatic (when they want to be) and was too forward. Kendall asking to bum the smoke away what gained her ear

How can no one see or point out that Tom’s gift to Shiv, the scorpion paperweight is a massive mis step, passively covert, not funny at all. The gift guaranteed to BREED contempt and it did. Also don’t and prob never will grasp why Tom is such a huge kiss ass. (the shit in my mouth & tell me it tastes like candy ((whatever the line was))) is so belittling and humiliating, yet Tom accepts it.

Good soup

Anyone else think Lukas is Aspergery or high level autististic? Just me?

Where is Nash in these reviews...

Kendall saying that he did it for his kids is a repeat of what Logan said during the black tie dinner; like father like son. Somewhat unrelated (maybe not): you imply that there something wrong or maybe abusive by a company requiring people to work from the office (i.e. the place of work) is naive or silly.

Todo el episodio fue tornado que arrasaba con todo, incluso co la idea de la democracia. Que sensaciones encontradas me da sabumiendo que es un año electoral.

Finally 😂 this was a great episode! I loathe Lukas and loved the look on Shiv’s face when she realized she is f-ed is great! Then Tom finally finding his balls and telling her to suck it and everyone get out! 😅

PREDICTION: Maddson's business is in the shit and has been playing them all along to not only tank the deal but get them to buy his business too! Cash out of a burning building.

I think I have it worked out. Succession is all about misdirection, and the biggest one of all is Logan Roy - HE is the McGuffin. In the United States the top job is POTUS. Connor is the only one with skin in that game; the one quietly biding his time in the desert. I reckon there's more weight to the little clues being dropped to his backstory. What do you think..? I think Connor AND Willa win, big time.

An episode "all about deception", but Ebba is truthful?

Overall a brilliant episode although the middle part was a bit boring. But the last 20 minutes or so was some of the best in the entire show. Overall 7/10 episode as succession doesn’t have any bad episodes in the entire show.

Kendall is absolutely a Lebron fan, and an avid Curry hater

Lmao nice one

18:33 I think she revealed to Tom she is pregnant recently during their reconnected sex, but maybe not admitting to Tom who is the father, his baby comment was a mutually understood calculated insult. Not sure of script timeline but we are pushing up against the limit for termination and her character could do that on her own, it’s possible the fetus is already a non issue