Succession Season 4 Finale Review (Episode 10)

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@NerdSoup
@NerdSoup Жыл бұрын
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@laughingoutloud5742
@laughingoutloud5742 Жыл бұрын
...is this a real ad for RSL
@laurarooney6030
@laurarooney6030 Жыл бұрын
Kendall IS A KILLER somewhat
@rwhist1814
@rwhist1814 Жыл бұрын
​@@laughingoutloud5742 😊aa
@kpixiewings_Kelley
@kpixiewings_Kelley Жыл бұрын
😊😊😊
@robin31165
@robin31165 Жыл бұрын
I think I’ve watched pretty much all the well done series recaps & this one is the best so far. I would subscribe, except for the fact that most of the shows you cover aren’t things that have interested me, this is definitely a great video! Well done guys, well done!
@than217
@than217 Жыл бұрын
Tom putting the sticker on Greg's forehead was the best moment of the episode. Even though Greg betrayed him he still picked Greg as his 'item to keep'.
@nationalsocialism3504
@nationalsocialism3504 9 ай бұрын
Greg betrayed Matteson not necessarily Tom
@chocobojerky4844
@chocobojerky4844 Жыл бұрын
Roman licking Peter's special cheese was just top notch Succession content
@denawagner360
@denawagner360 Жыл бұрын
That was so funny
@pji1979
@pji1979 Жыл бұрын
The home video showed the Logan the siblings missed out on by focusing so much on taking over the company. Connor, who didn't get involved, got to see that other side of Logan. For that reason, I think the home video works.
@aggg12679
@aggg12679 Жыл бұрын
YES! This is a genius comment. The video and what you pointed out brings a lot of humanity to the family and in a way adds motivation to Shivs betrayal. Kendall is a cheap imitation of her “world of a father”.
@calliebranum8356
@calliebranum8356 Жыл бұрын
Agree! I think it should have been eye opening to them to see how different their dad was when he wasn’t around them
@fashionforty
@fashionforty Жыл бұрын
Great observation
@Kicksncoffee1983
@Kicksncoffee1983 Жыл бұрын
Agree that brought me back to the last episode where the kids were shocked that Conner was the only one that knew about the mausoleum deal Logan got. Since Conner was never in the running for CEO he got to see a different side of their father that the kids didn’t.
@Lifeoftheparty8290
@Lifeoftheparty8290 Жыл бұрын
His work colleagues he saw them as his real family not his kids
@recoveringintrovert717
@recoveringintrovert717 Жыл бұрын
You got Caroline's motives all wrong. She invited them for vacation with the intention that Peter and his friend would make a business pitch to them. She tells them to not go with Gojo so Peter can get his talons in. When they are making the Meal for a King, she complains about how far Peter had to travel to get there. When they leave, Peter and her call the whole thing a "waste of time". Caroline is a narcissist. Don't be fooled. She likes to be viewed as the wronged mother.
@DelusionalNYC
@DelusionalNYC Жыл бұрын
I was really surprised that they both totally missed this. Caroline fucked over all of her kids for Peter in finale of Season 3 and she was planning to do it all over again in the series finale.
@holierthanthot
@holierthanthot Жыл бұрын
yeah I agree!
@dago4133
@dago4133 Жыл бұрын
She was worst than Logan. A real bit..
@holierthanthot
@holierthanthot Жыл бұрын
@@dago4133 ok not worse than Logan😭 but pretty shitty indeed
@carl1z
@carl1z Жыл бұрын
@Matthew_Davis
@Matthew_Davis Жыл бұрын
Lol Caroline being as sweet as can be?! She’s trying?! Being motherly?! Did you guys watch the same episode as me? She was (once again) anything but and only invited them out there for Peter so he could pitch them. “Go away,” she says as she waves and her children drive off, followed by Peter’s, “Waste of fn time.” No food, no intention of hosting a real dinner; it was all about the pitch for Peter. And while she may not have cared about the pitch (and was simply helping Peter), she sure AF wasn’t trying to be a good mother.
@famigliao
@famigliao Жыл бұрын
totally agree
@shewantsmicco7750
@shewantsmicco7750 Жыл бұрын
The arrogance of Tom at the end of the show.. his whole demeanor changed.. exceptional
@trogman43988
@trogman43988 Жыл бұрын
I mean everyone shit on him the whole series so it probably felt good to flex a little
@DrewFish44
@DrewFish44 Жыл бұрын
Incredible acting. I hated him at the end. I felt it in my stomach.
@poop_storm
@poop_storm Жыл бұрын
Is it really arrogance when he’s eating endless shit sandwiches?
@milenabianca9787
@milenabianca9787 Жыл бұрын
Yep totally agree and brilliant acting. I love that Tom had this side to him all along but played the servile dweeb to get ahead. Maybe Shiv would have respected him more if he was like this from the beginning lol
@_grapefruit
@_grapefruit Жыл бұрын
I thought he looked hot 😭
@aerinellis1133
@aerinellis1133 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a big part of Caroline 's motivation in inviting the kids down was that stupid pitch from her husband's friend. Yes she wanted to see them, but in the same way she wanted Logan at her wedding - to flaunt her access.
@michaelh9649
@michaelh9649 Жыл бұрын
100%. The Soup gave her waaay too much credit lol
@faceless_man566
@faceless_man566 Жыл бұрын
she is inhuman, there is no true compassion in her soul
@sweetbug
@sweetbug Жыл бұрын
She is absolutely my least favorite character. Despicable. Never saw a hint of her loving her kids on the show.
@Etticos.
@Etticos. Жыл бұрын
I actually really likes the Logan video scene. The entire show we see Logan from the kids perspective, and it only highlights how awful he was. The video shows Logan from the perspective of his actual friends and colleagues. You see how everyone is enjoying each others company, and in a way causes the viewer to call into question the perspectives of the kids. I thought it was pretty interesting. Everyone knows Logan is a monster, but this gave us a slight glimpse at his humanity, a glimpse we never really get elsewhere in the show, and helps to understand how such a monster could be so beloved. Also, Ken screaming he is “the eldest boy” is extra fucking hilarious because he isn’t even the eldest boy.
@SuperCrow02
@SuperCrow02 Жыл бұрын
I just don't think they saw Connor as a sibling. We don't even know if they were raised in the same household. He's more like an uncle to them
@jjohnson649
@jjohnson649 Жыл бұрын
you're wrong. When Jerry asked her colleagues if they missed logan and one said yes she described it as Stockholm syndrome. They shared a laugh. It was unanimous, everyone close to Logan all agree he was a complete asshole.
@Spaced92
@Spaced92 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperCrow02 He wasn't in the same household, he took them out on vacations because Logan wasn't around often. I think Roman and Shiv have a stronger impression of him than Kendall for whatever reason. Roman's fondest memories are with Connor and Shiv denied that Kendall was the eldest sibling.
@pharma2546
@pharma2546 Жыл бұрын
@@Spaced92 Logan told Ken he was the successor at 7yo which is y Ken mentally look down to Connor. Rem Connor has a dif mum so the main wife was ken’s mum
@hurmur9528
@hurmur9528 Жыл бұрын
Yes but I agree with NerdSoup that the fuck you thing may be a little bit to much.
@poop_storm
@poop_storm Жыл бұрын
Roman reverting back to being the “look at all this fucking bullshit” guy is definitely my favorite outcome of the siblings. He did what everyone watching the show wanted to do from the beginning: cash out and live large, because who cares? Shiv and Kendall acting like they had anything to bring to the table was always just the hubris of spoiled rich kids; Roman realizing that makes him far and away the most self aware of them.
@poop_storm
@poop_storm Жыл бұрын
The only reason Roman ever wanted the CEO job was because he thought it fit Logan’s wishes and that it was the thing that would earn him his father’s approval. Him realizing that it was all bullshit and that the cycle ultimately died with Logan is such a relief. Just had to shoot some of my thoughts on this amazing finale out into the void…
@rhondac.891
@rhondac.891 Жыл бұрын
Roman literally only switches out when Shiv does. Roman is his same flip flop self. If there was another week of this show he would be back to asking Kendall how can they salvage this
@poop_storm
@poop_storm Жыл бұрын
@@rhondac.891 I think before the whole Kendall denying he actually killed the kid thing you’d be right
@BeastReview
@BeastReview Жыл бұрын
I mean Kendall had a little bit of legit experience. But his biggest problem is he had to rely on Roman, and Shiv to become CEO. There were 6 other Board members, he should have been able to convince one of them. Anyone thinking Tom won is ridiculous, he is literally just hiring the future fall guy, or at best bitch made meat puppet.
@TheSaladin777
@TheSaladin777 Жыл бұрын
@@BeastReview agree
@ebrozo
@ebrozo Жыл бұрын
The thing about the scene with the home movie was that the kids weren't there. It was yet another piece of evidence that Logan sharing anything that resembled love and acceptance was unobtainable to them. There they are - still on the outside looking in. Standing outside his door just like when they were kids.
@dammitmom
@dammitmom Жыл бұрын
😢
@FearTheShadowz
@FearTheShadowz Жыл бұрын
I loved that Greg finally fought back against Tom in the bathroom. The look they gave eachother after the slaps was perfect. I thought Tom had cracked his last Greggs. Then Tom brings him back in the same way he did in Episode 1 and I couldn’t help smile hoping they’d be okay
@phobi3545
@phobi3545 Жыл бұрын
I think that the TV scene did an amazing job at revealing that Logan's real family was never the children, it was the old guard. This scene was heartbreaking for the children and really showed them who they were and who they weren't.
@spencerjones5200
@spencerjones5200 Жыл бұрын
3 certainties with Succession: 1. Kendall always loses. 2. Logan always wins. 3. Beau always mispronounces the names Macfadyen and Mylod.
@jjohnson649
@jjohnson649 Жыл бұрын
And shiv will always backstab you
@dv9239
@dv9239 Жыл бұрын
And Shiv always gets her way
@hurmur9528
@hurmur9528 Жыл бұрын
@@jjohnson649 Yes but for once she did not go against Tom. And that was a new one (well not entirely new, she has supported him some time but it is not many times and not in this big way).
@iggy_92
@iggy_92 Жыл бұрын
It’s ironic that at the end of season 2 Logan tells Kendall “You have to be a killer” in order to take over but then Shiv said “You can’t be CEO because you killed someone.”
@JosephTallent
@JosephTallent Жыл бұрын
It was metaphorical not literal. But imagine if it got out that Kendall killed somebody. It would come out eventually. You can run from the past. It always catches up to you.
@MrMich1lol
@MrMich1lol Жыл бұрын
@@JosephTallent he didn't kill him tho, it was an accident. Manslaugter at most.
@CoryAndor
@CoryAndor Жыл бұрын
i like that the family that stayed together was the disgusting brothers. proof that the real family are the friends we made along the way
@hurmur9528
@hurmur9528 Жыл бұрын
Well. Not the best friendship in the world.
@rhondac.891
@rhondac.891 Жыл бұрын
Tom is about to make Greg’s life hell. That wasn’t clear? 😂
@ramdom__
@ramdom__ Жыл бұрын
Kinda had a different read on that Kendall-Roman "hug" scene. For me, in a way rome almost asks for ken to give him a reason to not be CEO. I think that's why he says 'the stitches don't look so bad, why can't it be me?' Ken then realizing that rome usually seeks abuse as some sort of validation/love proceeds to show that same kind of twisted love Logan had for Roman. And then in the middle of their "hug" Roman accepts it and pushes his head deeper into ken's shoulder even rubbing against it a bit. For Rome, the open stitch is like the visual way to justify why he didn't get the job, kinda like a crutch he can wear to tell himself that's why he lost. But also the perfect encapsulation of why it would have never been him, because he's so broken and bruised as a person already at that point. It's honestly fckn wild.... 😓
@m1i0c1h2
@m1i0c1h2 Жыл бұрын
I felt when he points to his wounds and asks why it couldn’t be him, that was a nod to him being the most physically and mentally damaged by Logan. He took the hits, he feels defeated because he thought he might have a chance- and felt internally he earned it for being a literal punching bag. He still has the wounds to prove it 😢 And i felt the hug was Kendal acknowledging what he’s been through- and just seeing Roman finally be vulnerable and not downplay the violence he faced like he always did. Then knowing Roman needs the pain to feel the love, he made the hug hurt :/
@milenabianca9787
@milenabianca9787 Жыл бұрын
I took it as Kendall ruining Romans face on purpose as a power play and he knows Roman is like a beaten dog and he would let him do it. It was really messed up and made me feel sick. That was the point I thought Kendall is fully cruel and heartless now he’s willing to kick Roman when he’s down just to be CEO
@thrillcollectors
@thrillcollectors Жыл бұрын
Totally agree that when Kendal kicked his feet up on Logan’s old desk seconds after acting like there was some reverence over it, that was the first thing that set Shiv off into changing her mind
@SCharlesDennicon
@SCharlesDennicon Жыл бұрын
My problem with this is that it seemed so... lazy, writing-wise, to me. I knew he was a dick, but they made him... worse.
@lukewilliam3601
@lukewilliam3601 Жыл бұрын
Little did Shiv know, but she sold Tom to the Swede far better than Tom ever could. Her description of him, as "su*king the biggest **** in the room" is exactly the type of CEO he was looking for. Shiv misread the situation so poorly that she cost herself the CEO position.
@ENDRAMONEE
@ENDRAMONEE Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!
@trevorgerardfrederick
@trevorgerardfrederick Жыл бұрын
"Listen, guys: I'm the main character. Go back to season 1, OK? It's always been about me." "I was first shot. And the last shot." I cackled.
@compounding_gains
@compounding_gains Жыл бұрын
Definitely disagree with your view on the video of Logan and the old guard. They showed simultaneously how segregated the sibs were from Logan's life and non-CEO personality and how Connor was actually the closest to Logan despite being seen as the outsider because Logan did not see him as a successor. That video was immensely tragic not feel-good fodder.
@greenfox42
@greenfox42 Жыл бұрын
14:07 Jessie Armstrong also clarified that Shiv changed her mind about Kendal being CEO the moment he sat in Logan’s chair and was already getting an ego trip from the false sense of power. It wasn’t really a Tom or Mattson thing, it was the fact she was witnessed him literally morph instantly into a power hungry narcissist in that role.
@rhondac.891
@rhondac.891 Жыл бұрын
She just can’t stand to see him win. She would’ve never allowed herself to do it. And bringing up his accident now was so low. She’s the worse. And Roman is not much better with using his kids against him. How anyone doesn’t unalive in this family is beyond me because there is just no love or trust here.
@DrRestezi
@DrRestezi Жыл бұрын
That's actually a helpful remark. I was coming around to the same conclusion, that THAT was the moment Shiv lost her shit. Glad that JA confirmed it.
@stephyworld8713
@stephyworld8713 Жыл бұрын
Actually it's several things that made her change her mind in that short span of time : - Kendall's attitude sitting in the chair - Seeing Roman all bloody after being "comforted" by Kendall - Kendall LYING to the board that him and Roman locked the GoJo deal when Shiv is the only reason that deal went through (with a massive price increase) . - Kendall's dismissive and arrogant attitude with the board (let's just skip to the vote..)
@greenfox42
@greenfox42 Жыл бұрын
@@stephyworld8713 correct! Those are the specific things Jessie talked about in the segment after the episode.
@zacbouch42
@zacbouch42 Жыл бұрын
​@@stephyworld8713you act like shiv is a strategic character and have bullet points as to why she betrayed Kendall. She took the vote because it was the last sliver of power she knew she was going to get and she hated Kendall more than Tom because she always despised him.
@AdAstra78
@AdAstra78 Жыл бұрын
That hug between Kendall and Roman was weirdly disturbing. On one hand, Roman 'self harming', on the other, Ken 'putting a pillow over his face'. Yet...there was love there too. Sheesh. Dark shit...
@youdontknowme2913
@youdontknowme2913 Жыл бұрын
So in the end the winners are Tom, Greg and Connor.
@kiki_578
@kiki_578 Жыл бұрын
I love the end scene, how for Kendall, water symbolizes the power and top spot he always wanted to conquer. At season 3 he's almost drowning in the pool, only his pool mattress keeping him afloat. After his successful speech he easily floats in the ocean thinking he's finally learned how to swim in it. The night before the board meeting he's quickly diving in the ocean when Roman and Shiv hesitate on the beach but then join him. And in the end scene he ends up watching the ocean from behind a fence.
@hurmur9528
@hurmur9528 Жыл бұрын
That was just great symbolism. I never thought about that.
@KaylaMarie_
@KaylaMarie_ Жыл бұрын
And the kid that drowned
@amberlisa7365
@amberlisa7365 Жыл бұрын
Yeah what about him driving the car into the water (can’t deal with the power) and confessing and crying by the water? It’s a lot with Kendall and water.
@user-fo9ep4lp5x
@user-fo9ep4lp5x Жыл бұрын
I thought the dinner party scene was going to lean into the 3 of them realizing how devastated and resentful they are to watch Logan having a dinner party where he has his guard down and they see him spending that time with Kerry, Jerri, Frank and Carl and the bullet in the heart of Connor being there when they always assumed they were the favored offspring only to see Connor being included without them. Like that he was included in the light & they were left out in the cold.
@gbeach85
@gbeach85 Жыл бұрын
The shame of it is that Conner never realizes this. He thinks that because he wasn’t involved in the business that his father favored them.
@TalkSickMass
@TalkSickMass Жыл бұрын
@@gbeach85 Connor made the right choice because he didn't get pushed into decades of sibling rivalries, which would have pushed him over the edge..
@gbeach85
@gbeach85 Жыл бұрын
@@TalkSickMass Being kept out of the family dealings wasn’t his choice I don’t think.
@LloydWaldo
@LloydWaldo Жыл бұрын
Well in a way he was. He was most comfortable amongst lackeys and not rivals. Connor knew many things about him that the others never did.
@user-fo9ep4lp5x
@user-fo9ep4lp5x Жыл бұрын
Yes! Like wasn’t that crazy when they went to the mausoleum and Connor knew all the details. I think he really was the one closest to Logan. Like it’s sad Connor always felt like Logan didn’t love him - or that heartbreaking line in 0403 when he says “he never even liked me” 😢 Connor is so much better off not having gotten involved in all the backstabbing drama.
@LayingInAMeadow
@LayingInAMeadow Жыл бұрын
The ending was so tough but perfect. Left a pit in my stomach.
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 Жыл бұрын
Ending was a cop out. One of the kids should have gotten it. It was their birth right. The show is about succession. Some dude from Lady Gaga videos got it? This was worse than the Sopranos lights out ending.
@cgijokerman5787
@cgijokerman5787 Жыл бұрын
​@@dukedematteo1995there is no birthright.
@brendanfoster5320
@brendanfoster5320 Жыл бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995 Birthright doesn’t exist for public companies.
@onlineuser252
@onlineuser252 Жыл бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995 the show was about logan's failure to actually raise a suitable successor
@Yami992
@Yami992 Жыл бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995 such a bad take
@nineteenct
@nineteenct Жыл бұрын
Sarah Snook can convey so many emotions at the drop of a hat, she’s fantastic
@thrillcollectors
@thrillcollectors Жыл бұрын
That dude who got in the elevator with Kendall at the end and just had that face like “excuse me sorry” I’m like bro where do you have to be so urgently that you’re willing to share an elevator with Kendall right now?? What’s funny is that it was a purposeful decision from the show runners to have that rando get in the elevator as every last frame is meticulously choreographed. Not sure what that was about lol
@jaytravtulsa1
@jaytravtulsa1 Жыл бұрын
At that point Kendall was just another guy who had an unsuccessful business meeting. Not the new CEO
@z5m2
@z5m2 Жыл бұрын
​@Jay Traverso he was still co ceo (on the way out) and a po'ed billionaire.... unlikely anyone would normally ride an elevator with him you'd think. II was wondering if it was some kind of elevator operator when I was watching it.
@chubbymonkey452
@chubbymonkey452 Жыл бұрын
The rando in the elevator was Kendall. Not that guy.
@fightsports66
@fightsports66 Жыл бұрын
Have any of you people ever been in an office building in midtown NYC? You could be in the elevator with a visible gunshot wound and someone would push past you to push the button for the floor they are going to.
@alexbaytenov
@alexbaytenov Жыл бұрын
Personally, I was super worried about Kendall, considering his history: he had that look in his eyes after the vote. And so I read it as someone (Frank?) sending a rando just so K not be alone
@fatheranthony4pope
@fatheranthony4pope Жыл бұрын
The Logan scene was there to highlight what the three younger children never got to experience with their dad. They were always outsiders.
@mn-ru4li
@mn-ru4li Жыл бұрын
Jesse Armstrong made it very clear to the writers that there is NO transformation arch for these characters. They are not capable of change, so there is no sibling looking out for each other.
@charlieuetz2539
@charlieuetz2539 Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with what you guys we’re saying about their mother. She said some nice things during the episode but everything she says and does is manipulative as fuck. And the last thing she says about her children is “go away” behind their backs
@goldengnome1951
@goldengnome1951 Жыл бұрын
I thought the scene where Roman was saying that stuff about his face not looking that bad and talking about how it "could be him" and then kendall shoving his head into his shoulder and pressing really hard enough to bust his stitches was a way of Kendall saying "no, it's me, it's always me..don't get any ideas, stick with the plan, it can't be you" and then he makes his face look worse. i was hoping for more of a discussion on that scene because it really can be interpreted in a couple different ways. My husband thought something totally different. I really thought it was a way for kendall to "lovingly" (in an abusive embrace) put Roman in his place. And a side note, i think it's fitting that Shiv had the power in the end. If it isn't me, it's none of us. She's been pushed aside the whole time. Pretty awesome.
@ramdom__
@ramdom__ Жыл бұрын
I'm with you here on the kendall-roman scene. In a way rome almost asks for ken to give him a reason to not be CEO. I think that's why he says 'the stitches don't look so bad, why can't it be me?' Ken then realizing that rome usually seeks abuse as some sort of validation/love proceeds to show that same kind of twisted love Logan had for Roman. And then in the middle of their "hug" Roman accepts it and pushes his head deeper into ken's shoulder even rubbing against it a bit. For Rome, the open stitch is like the visual way to justify why he didn't get the job, kinda like a crutch he can wear to tell himself that's why he lost. But also the perfect encapsulation of why it would have never been him, because he's so broken and bruised as a person already at that point. It's honestly fckn wild....
@goldengnome1951
@goldengnome1951 Жыл бұрын
@@ramdom__ well said!
@AdAstra78
@AdAstra78 Жыл бұрын
Darkest moment in the whole series I reckon. So quietly disturbing.
@MOTM1234
@MOTM1234 Жыл бұрын
in the end, Kendall should have never left the Vulture meeting.
@schquitagoodwin7549
@schquitagoodwin7549 Жыл бұрын
as a person who just came home from a funeral, watching videos of the recently deceased it totally a thing. and its very real but also Kerry really liked that old man. wow sis. just wow
@chopst11x92
@chopst11x92 Жыл бұрын
WAKE UP BABE THE SOUP IS HOT
@samcollis2525
@samcollis2525 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Shiv betraying Ken was any one reason: -Sibling rivalry and jealous of him getting the role -Ken’s behaviour showing he hasn’t changed (both with feet in the desk and not admitting to the waiter’s murder) -The angle that Tom would be CEO which is slightly more palatable -Ken/Rome deciding to announce Menchen, when she was on the opposite political side I think it’s the sum of those parts which made her decide that way. Curious though that Logan (staying on), Rome (vote of no confidence) and now Shiv (GoJo deal) all blocked Ken from being CEO.
@breelee4362
@breelee4362 5 ай бұрын
It was not murder. It was an accident. He tried to save the kid.
@remymadarieta1631
@remymadarieta1631 Жыл бұрын
This particular podcast was indispensable. I’m not crazy I promise but I’m gonna miss this more than succession
@milenabianca9787
@milenabianca9787 Жыл бұрын
Me too!! Once the show is finished every week I’m then looking forward to Nerd Soup to hear their take mainly it’s a confirmation bias because I agree with everything they say 😂
@thrillcollectors
@thrillcollectors Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that Caroline saying let it go was as much emotional intelligence as it was just her sick of the kids bickering at her dinner table
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 Жыл бұрын
Also, as usual, making excuses for why she hadn’t bothered to put together a proper meal for everyone.
@archstanton1161
@archstanton1161 Жыл бұрын
I thought we were going to see Kendall jump to his death. It would have been fitting. But i guess they didn't want to go any darker. 😂
@elliesunderland248
@elliesunderland248 Жыл бұрын
My take was that he was longing for his death but his guard would prevent any attempt. So for me it kinda felt like the darkest possible ending for him - wanting to die but not having any power left to do it..
@Cbart23
@Cbart23 Жыл бұрын
The file cabinet guy was my favorite character.
@taylor6466
@taylor6466 Жыл бұрын
We should've known: "You have to break a few Greggs to make a Tomelte." "I love you, but you're not serious people."
@monael75
@monael75 Жыл бұрын
This show ended perfectly! It has been so long since I've watched a show beginning to end and not been disappointed. All other "saga" series need to take a note from this! This ending was on par for what we've experienced in this universe! I am thoroughly satisfied! 🎉❤
@ggkinz8506
@ggkinz8506 Жыл бұрын
It made sense dramaturgically
@josh043p6
@josh043p6 Жыл бұрын
Roman basically sums up that Waystar is just one giant macguffin in the show. It does not matter. They are all rich AF and the fate of the company isn't that important. It's just what the Roy siblings wanted to do
@xenon8117
@xenon8117 Жыл бұрын
I said just before watching the episode my final prediction was Tom. I knew Matsson would get the deal through so it was down to the best puppet and Greg is too useless and would need way too much direction and Shiv would try to not be a puppet but Tom knows the business well and will happily be the puppet under Matsson because he doesn’t have Shiv’s air of entitlement that the world belongs to her. I adored the home video of Logan, it brought up the line from Shiv and Tom’s argument a couple episodes back where she blames him for robbing her of those last 6 months they could have had with him and now they’re getting a chance to see it and ponder whether this whole fight has been worth it. It’s also good to see how even a toxic relationship and character can have their good moments to show why all the bad is sometimes overlooked and it helps showcase why Connor is the only Sibling winner.
@maddy7
@maddy7 Жыл бұрын
My hubby & I believe that Logan Roy won. He wanted to sell his company to GoJo and that is exactly what happened. As Tom said in Season 3 to Kendall, Logan always wins. Kendall was all alone in the end with Colin (Logan's former driver) watching over him; Roman ended up back where he began; and Shiv wanted Tom and had to suck it up and stand with Tom. We noticed Tom extended his hand as he's changed to how Shiv treated Tom over the past 3 season~~their roles are reversed. As far as Greg, it's a shame he didn't get the boot but we believe Mattson and Tom using Greg for anything especially bad with the new merger. Also, I'm sure Greg's salary will be clawed back dramatically as Mattson now knows Greg is a traitor. Great writing by Jess Armstrong and ending this show on a high. We thoroughly enjoyed this show.
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker Жыл бұрын
Traitor? Without Greg the company wouldn’t have sold. He (at times by accident) caused the final conflict. Greg is a “Machiavellian f-k”!
@TheSaladin777
@TheSaladin777 Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares about your hubby dude
@Spaced92
@Spaced92 Жыл бұрын
Logan didn't want to sell ATN, I think he decided on Roman getting it.
@pissypamper7789
@pissypamper7789 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people are sleeping on the kendall ‘hugging’ roman scene. to me, it’s pretty clear that kendall purposely hurt roman to subdue him as roman was starting to question why it wasn’t him as CEO. It wasn’t roman going in very hard for the hug. Kendall literally actively pushes roman into his shoulder despite roman pushing away, and has no reaction to roman yelling due to his pain. he knows what he’s doing, and i think that is the most disgusting thing kendall has done to his siblings in the show. he knows that abusing roman will shut him up, even flaunting on him when roman votes no at the meeting. from that point i was like fuck kendall lmao
@vanessaheine8093
@vanessaheine8093 Жыл бұрын
This! That was so cruel and bullying. A real Fredo death kiss moment. Horrifying.
@Shallabais100
@Shallabais100 Жыл бұрын
Jeremy strong mentions something like that this is the way they were taught love through Logan's abuse when they were young and its reflected in the hug being somewhat physically painful
@MrMich1lol
@MrMich1lol Жыл бұрын
have you watched the ending of the last episode? It's what Roman likes, being hurt helps him be "himself" and not worry and crumble like he did at the funeral. He hinted that since the stitches look good he can be the next CEO, almost asking Ken to do what he did. And I don't think that he was trying to get away, instead he pushed into his shoulder like he did when he pushed the crowed into hurting him.
@orc001
@orc001 10 ай бұрын
You guys missed it all... Kendall did that because Roman was worried that he didn't look beat up enough. Right before it, Roman spends a long time complaining that is has totally healed, and it wont look like he went out without a fight.
@LloydWaldo
@LloydWaldo Жыл бұрын
I just realized. Alexander skarsgard is a nepo baby. Very meta.
@lindazee126
@lindazee126 Жыл бұрын
It was the perfect ending “you’re not serious people” 😎
@tc397
@tc397 Жыл бұрын
The power change between Tom and Shiv was chilling as you see the look on Shiv,s face . She wanted a powerful man so she said but now she has that in Tom she seemed like now she regretted having to play that part
@franciscapiloto6491
@franciscapiloto6491 Жыл бұрын
Aaaand, Shiv was known to keeping her options open. I think that she thought that at least if she sticks with Tom, she’s the closest of the siblings to the coveted position. Also, the mention to the bloodline wasn’t innocent. Logan was a antiquated man, he hated Kendall’s kids (and now, unfortunately, we know why: his grand kids weren’t his blood, one adopted and one through sperm donation) and he made some remarks to Tom and shiv indicating that they should get to work to get pregnant. The Logan bloodline will probably continue connected to the company through Tom and Shiv. Even Madson says it: that he would like continuity, but instead of the “woman with the baby, why not keep the man who put the baby in the woman?” So sad but so satisfying finale.
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't about keeping her options open....She was pissed and bitter her brother would have the power, and she wouldn't. So she gave away her father's empire to some foreigner who just totally humiliated and used her.
@fightsports66
@fightsports66 Жыл бұрын
Francisca Piloto You are the first person I’ve seen mention Logan and the grandchildren. Like you say Logan was a very antiquated man and the thing with Kendall’s kids, it explains a lot.
@franciscapiloto6491
@franciscapiloto6491 Жыл бұрын
@@fightsports66 thank you! I trully believe that all these characters motivations are way more complex and a rewatch is on my list. What caught may attention was the fact that the writers only tell us these things about Kendal’s kids in the finale. During a spat between the siblings. That plus the Madson line about “the guy who put the baby” makes me think it was not innocent at all. 😃
@annkey4091
@annkey4091 10 ай бұрын
Things happen for a reason. Logan was not meant to see Tom and Shiv's baby. He could not accept Kendall's children. Fate!
@annkey4091
@annkey4091 10 ай бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995 Shiv saw that the business was sold to GoJo as her father requested.
@-AtomsPhere-
@-AtomsPhere- Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown, guys. Been a wild ride and glad you were a part of it.
@miam1074
@miam1074 Жыл бұрын
What an incredible show this was! So satisfying to watch something intelligent and coherent. The ending makes perfect sense for me.
@newguy5672
@newguy5672 Жыл бұрын
That game 7 metaphor perfectly encapsulates watching this episode
@pandabearmadness6263
@pandabearmadness6263 Жыл бұрын
When Mattson calls Greg Judas it made me feel horrible but at the same time was funny af, in the theme of Judas, Jesus did forgive Forgive Judas so i thought Tom forgiving Greg made sense to me
@SuperStella1111
@SuperStella1111 Жыл бұрын
the video of Logan was very important. The kids were united, then they saw their father on the video and you can see first Roman (in particular) and finally Shiv wavering. Seeing him triggers them, and it sets up the final confrontation. They were united until they watched that video.
@micmaliss
@micmaliss Жыл бұрын
It could not have been anyone else but Tom. He was the devil with his fingers crossed behind his back. That arrogant-ass victory walk to the car, then his flip hand (which he did not embrace Shiv's) signified "I am the man now, Shiv and everything you have said and done will be revisited." Loved it.
@gavinjonsn
@gavinjonsn Жыл бұрын
My dad has this uncanny knack for guessing the endings of shows and god damnit, he's done it again. What an ending, the entire last hour of this episode had me so on edge that I watched from behind the couch while I paced back and forth across the room. I honestly thought Kendall was going to take that elevator to the roof and just fucking jump. I thought we were in the clear when he pressed 0, and then he started staring at the water real ominously.
@iliaponomarev1624
@iliaponomarev1624 Жыл бұрын
And no one, no one said that it's Connor who's the eldest son!
@penbunk
@penbunk Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Nana Pierce, sitting in the well iluminated and aired living room of her country house: "Hey, yo, you still gonna buy my shit, right? RIGHT?"
@Lupidleaper
@Lupidleaper Жыл бұрын
GOAT INTRO
@ouriel
@ouriel Жыл бұрын
This is Shakespeare level story telling. The ending is the conclusion of the slow cook we have seen over 4 seasons. 3 sibs who entertain a love-hate relation driven by a brutally cold education from a brutal father and broken marriages. They died before their father as human beings, and are in self destruction mode ever since. while it is frustrating the show is over, it makes perfect sense to end on the fact they eventually all die as sibs after having died as being children. What a show.
@notquitehim
@notquitehim Жыл бұрын
I really liked the video of Logan, you could see even him had a human side. And the fact that connor, the one who didn't have any interest in becoming Logan, was the son who had the closest relation with his dad
@zachscott5420
@zachscott5420 Жыл бұрын
That was Logan’s dinner that they missed in the premiere
@DelusionalNYC
@DelusionalNYC Жыл бұрын
Now that the series is over, can someone explain to my why Greg thought it made sense to sacrifice a $250 MM inheritance from Ewan to pursue upward mobility within Waystar? How could Greg’s path at Waystar ever result in comparable wealth?
@rhondac.891
@rhondac.891 Жыл бұрын
The whole point of the show is that at that level it’s about the power and respect more so than the money. He wants to be in the room with the president and make major decisions that affect others lives like firing a whole team.
@bigmactominay9795
@bigmactominay9795 Жыл бұрын
Greg can dance had Kendall won our egg would’ve finally gotten parks
@jimjam762
@jimjam762 Жыл бұрын
When shit like that happens I always have to remind myself it's a tv show.
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 Жыл бұрын
I guess time. He needs to wait 15 years for his grandfather to die.
@beatrixpo8878
@beatrixpo8878 Жыл бұрын
It was $50 mil wasn’t it? Not that it matters.
@theniftycat
@theniftycat Жыл бұрын
thank you for reviewing this series! I've been looking forward to your videos every week!
@spartan5536
@spartan5536 Жыл бұрын
5:20 is actually when the video starts
@mikeinmelbourne9491
@mikeinmelbourne9491 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I experienced a lot of schadenfreude watching these horrible, entitled trust fund narcissists undergoing their own form of self destruction. A brilliant exploration of the psychology of power. I couldn't think of a better ending - Tom's rise to power as the ultimate hollow man makes perfect sense.
@gr3saeyend
@gr3saeyend Жыл бұрын
that is so cringe bro
@mikeinmelbourne9491
@mikeinmelbourne9491 Жыл бұрын
@@gr3saeyend cool story.
@sirhcgnuoy1657
@sirhcgnuoy1657 Жыл бұрын
been waiting on this all day
@mathilde139
@mathilde139 Жыл бұрын
I was looking out for this one 🎉 enjoying this from a subway in Seoul
@sadie513
@sadie513 Жыл бұрын
Always knew the kids were gonna lose so I was just excited how it will go down. I thought Roman would betray Kendall but Shiv doing it instead also makes sense. My favourite ending was Roman's which is what I wanted for Shiv. Tom walking in with his new suit and air of power was perfect. Time for all of them to claim heir Emmys. Thank you for all your insightful recaps.
@hazzabang17
@hazzabang17 Жыл бұрын
I actually didn’t mind the scene seeing Logan on the tv screen, just showing how separated the kids were with their father. Great review as always tho guys. Succession will go down as one of the greats.
@patriot459
@patriot459 Жыл бұрын
As much as it hurts to see the kids lose it was perfectly written to just show that they fell back to the insecurities and tendencies that they have been destroying themselves with. It breaks my heart seeing Kendall lose everything, Roman go back to being a jerk off and shiv essentially becoming her mother and a slave to her husband while the kids overall lose their birth right… Logan told them time and time again they are not serious people so it makes sense they imploded it just makes me sad.
@maritveeber9397
@maritveeber9397 Жыл бұрын
Do we really think Logan is looking down on the kids, and not up?
@DelusionalNYC
@DelusionalNYC Жыл бұрын
There has been no evidence whatsoever that Shiv gives one shit about “saving Kendall from himself”. She flat out doesn’t ever want him to succeed. Ever. There are numerous examples of Shiv doing the most to humiliate and denigrate Ken.
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 Жыл бұрын
That's all it was. She just didn't want him to get it because he sat on a chair in a way she didn't like....all so some Viking weirdo can take their birthrite.
@jtmz87
@jtmz87 Жыл бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995 its just that simple. I have never hated a TV character more than in that moment. Just could not stomach her brother getting something she couldn't have.
@monbell2364
@monbell2364 Жыл бұрын
@@jtmz87 He is a drug addict, a killer and two-faced horrible human being with fragile ego. And yet, you think he deserves something? Why? Non of them did. Thats the whole point. Shiv just told that out loud.
@Chibbykins
@Chibbykins Жыл бұрын
​@@dukedematteo1995 their birthright that their own father withheld and tried to sell lol
@kinetikfox16
@kinetikfox16 Жыл бұрын
I was with Kendall until he started denying the murder. That's what brought the siblings back together last season and for him to say things like "I wasn't even there" "false memoried it" etc pissed me off. No damn integrity or remorse for anything. I wouldn't want my brother to be ceo either if he did that.
@moonchiId.
@moonchiId. Жыл бұрын
shiv bringing this so suddenly wasn't cool at all whey they already talked about this and she dont give a fuck about the waiter lmao but since the beginning was clear that kendall can't have this power on his hand he just cant
@BloodedtheBrave
@BloodedtheBrave Жыл бұрын
@@moonchiId. Exactly....I actually think this was one example of bad writing or plot use and one of a few examples I really didn't enjoy about the finale.
@ElroiTheLionKing
@ElroiTheLionKing Жыл бұрын
There's a known fable regarding familial relations of the goodfellas members of a family. The devil comes down and tells brother A: you can have anything you want, but you should know your brother will get twice of what you got. Brother A thinks for a short while, and asks the devil to take out one of his eyes. The Roys 2023.
@stephyworld8713
@stephyworld8713 Жыл бұрын
Actually it's several things that made Shiv change her mind in that short span of time : - Kendall's attitude sitting in the chair - Seeing Roman all bloody after being "comforted" by Kendall - Kendall LYING to the board that him and Roman locked the GoJo deal when Shiv is the only reason that deal went through (with a massive price increase) . - Kendall's dismissive and arrogant attitude with the board (let's just skip to the vote..)
@Timquan.
@Timquan. Жыл бұрын
The only thing that made her flip in the moment was the realization she had lost and would not get what she wanted. She literally shat all over Ken and Rome in the beginning and even talked crazy about Tom. She is a scorpion who stings people because it's in her nature. Betrayal is her defence mechanism
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 Жыл бұрын
Kendall didn't know Shiv got the Gojo deal, and she really didn't anyway. They were trying to tank it, and Mattson upped the offer just to box Kendall and Roman in.
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 Жыл бұрын
@KingHollow666 Exactly. I'm seeing all these in depth high minded videos about why Shiv did it. She did it bc she's a miserable twat who couldn't stand that her brother was in the big seat.
@stephyworld8713
@stephyworld8713 Жыл бұрын
@@dukedematteo1995 did you miss the part of their discussion where she straight up tell Mattson that if he upped the price, they will have to accept the deal? Rewatch, she made that deal happen.
@taymayne
@taymayne Жыл бұрын
​@@Timquan. Kendall and Roman have cut Shiv out and betrayed her just as many times as she's betrayed them. The three Roy siblings were trapped in this weird stunted childhood. They made nice at their Mom's house but back in their Dad's seat, it was doomed to fail. There were tons of reasons Shiv flipped but first and foremost as a sibling she could never be the one to give the victory to Kendall. Especially when he is bragging in all their faces. The way Kendall follows her into the conference room continues to escalate and then lies, only further seals the deal. At the end of the day, the poison dripped through. From Logan's uncle to him and then from him to his children. They were his greatest failure but will now endure beyond his now-dead empire.
@serb619
@serb619 Жыл бұрын
Succession 2: The Greggening is gonna be crazy
@frankie_smith
@frankie_smith Жыл бұрын
I've canceled my MAX subscription after both Succession and BARRY have ended. And I don't want a S5 of Succession. It would dilute the strength...the awesomeness of this finale. I'm fine with how this story ended; especially for "the kids", "the sibs". Perfect. Chef's kiss.
@ollieenger1424
@ollieenger1424 Жыл бұрын
Shiv doesn't care about Ken. The writers showed us she was the one wanting to reconcile with Tom, even after all the terrible things he said to her and the power dynamic change. The fact that she'd still gang up with him says exactly how she feels about Ken - it was a F off, daddy style.
@Peecamarke
@Peecamarke Жыл бұрын
That intro 😂😂😂😂 Anywhoo, I mean Shiv did vote no after Ken didn’t give her space to breathe/think, denied killing someone and gas lit them for it, and then proceeded to fight and attack Rome. I feel like if Kendall’s response to her had been different I felt like it was some Game of Thrones’sh where the true winners were the assistants and the middle-people that helped others rise to the top lol
@Direfloof
@Direfloof Жыл бұрын
Important point on Tom and Greg, and maybe I’m missing nuances about this part of their history, but hear me out. Tom didn’t “take Greg back” after Greg betrayed his trust with the leak about the CEO pick. Greg knows the things Tom knows about the company’s closet full of skeletons because Tom told Greg when he was freaking out about being told himself. Tom has to keep Greg from doing what Greg clearly would do if it meant Greg would benefit: blackmail Tom. Tom can’t send Greg out into the cold because, well, it’s Greg.
@chriswilson8487
@chriswilson8487 Жыл бұрын
Great point
@AdAstra78
@AdAstra78 Жыл бұрын
True, but on a more fundamental level, they're pretty much best pals.
@Direfloof
@Direfloof Жыл бұрын
@@AdAstra78 they do have qualities in common with each other that none of the other characters do, that’s true
@tiantianzhang8476
@tiantianzhang8476 Жыл бұрын
You got me at the beginning 😂
@Hypno_BPM
@Hypno_BPM Жыл бұрын
yes Tom “won” but he’s just a puppet CEO with Mattheson as his boss. Ken wanted to take control back of the company and become a “true” CEO. Also the home video totally fits the vibe of the siblings getting along and remembering their father.
@TP_Gillz
@TP_Gillz Жыл бұрын
ALL HAIL THE DISGUSTING BROTHERS! LONG LIVE THE KING! What a brilliant perfect ending.
@robinlikens7060
@robinlikens7060 Жыл бұрын
I love that the move of gauging someone's eyes out with your thumbs will forever be known as an Obyren!
@maryjanedodo
@maryjanedodo Жыл бұрын
+ this season started immediately after another Pedro Pascal series
@laurarooney6030
@laurarooney6030 Жыл бұрын
Shiv wasn't saving Kendall. They're just too much of themselves.
@than217
@than217 Жыл бұрын
Tom gets the Good Panic Room now.
@nickmenn5443
@nickmenn5443 Жыл бұрын
I can’t lie, for a while there, when Shiv and Roman were talking about killing Kendall, I thought for a brief moment they might, like it wasn’t beyond their realm, they’ve been “killing each other” in the business sense the whole series, and I thought man, they’re gonna drown this dude, knock him out and throw him in the water, how fitting would that be that Kendall’s love for water ends up being his grave, and then it would make the whole waiter death in season one come back full circle, don’t get me wrong I’m very glad it didn’t go that route, prolly woulda been overkill, but still it’s a testament to their dynamics as siblings within this power vacuum where I thought “holy shit they just might”
@holierthanthot
@holierthanthot Жыл бұрын
In a way though they did end up killing Kendall. Those last scenes were so brutal to watch
@ValerieBleak
@ValerieBleak Жыл бұрын
I wish I could be watch all of Succession again for the first time.
@mrmagoozle
@mrmagoozle Жыл бұрын
Have you heard of Lacuna Inc.?
@jmmurica2885
@jmmurica2885 Жыл бұрын
Loved your reviews of Succession. I think the ending is perfect. Sure, the show led us, slightly, but in the end we know Kendall didn’t deserve top spot. Even though his desperation “this cog this wheel” is the ONLY slot ever for Kendall! Powerful performances & excellent writing. Shiv was a force to watch
@patriciacashman5553
@patriciacashman5553 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Jeremy Strong which what he said in the HBO podcast: he said when they filmed his last scene, he tried to climb over the fence to go into the ocean. (He said Colin ran over to grab him) As the man playing Kendall, he knew him best. I feel they should have gone in that direction. Let Kendall (Jeremy) show what he knows, what he feels.
@GDSprodify
@GDSprodify Жыл бұрын
Exactly, that last shot pissed me off, Kendall would’ve definitely tried to jump in that moment.
@faithfm1
@faithfm1 Жыл бұрын
Shiv could go back to politics so she won't necessarily "just" be a wife especially if Mencken doesn’t end up winning like she mentioned earlier in the episode. She won't be happy but she has options that Caroline didn't.
@ThompterSHunson
@ThompterSHunson Жыл бұрын
I would love a Shiv-Tom-Greg spin-off. Or generally, any spin-off that can keep us in touch with the characters of this amazing cast & show.
@user-my6bj1ne7k
@user-my6bj1ne7k Жыл бұрын
It boiled down to Shiv, Roman and Ken as just being mimicry in the play pen of Logan- Where ultimately Shiv and Roman recognised this- and Ken aggressively defended against this Truth- and Ken was just like Icarus - and fell to truth harder than Shiv and Roman. They only communicated as traumatised kids and never trusted the Adult in each other- as they just tore each other down anytime they started to believe they might be capable of being a successor, back to the reality of traumatised kids- which is all they really saw in each other- and the child like love of each other was more of the truth - than their adult parts….
@cronaon317
@cronaon317 Жыл бұрын
Remember that Greg has the paperwork on the cruises still and Tom knows it so he has to keep him
@jtymon24
@jtymon24 Жыл бұрын
The best ending would be Kendal winning and then partying and over dosing
@remyy1999
@remyy1999 Жыл бұрын
Gotta disagree about the Ken Roman hug Ken was pushing Roman down initially but then Roman began to push himself down as well Kendall was “helping” Roman make his stitches look worse so that it optics wise, Roman wouldn’t look fit enough He’s helping and comforting his brother but he’s also crushing him and putting him in his place
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