Netflix Stars Needed Second Jobs To Survive Says Actor

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@ItsTheCatSpeaking24 Жыл бұрын

The lack of understanding and empathy in the comments is stunning. This TV series was essentially the catalyst for Netflix getting big and making a name for their originals. Everyone was talking about it at the time. Acting has never been a stable job, nevertheless, they need to be paid fairly for the work- which makes millions for the execs and makes great TV for us! I hope they can hold out as long as possible. It's now or never to stand up for their rights and pay 💪

@thestarkster9940 Жыл бұрын

Many people still have the mindset that acting or working in the art/entertainment field is not a real job, sadly.

@ML-yn9yu Жыл бұрын

@@thestarkster9940 this

@johnzeigler9041 Жыл бұрын

@@thestarkster9940 actually we are of the understanding that it is a real job. Because we are of that understanding we seem to understand far more than you and other people with “boo-hoo” mentalities. 1. Those actors sign contracts. They are responsible for the money they do or do not make. To sign a contract and then say “oh wait, i want to be paid more now because this company (show) is making more money than I imagined when I signed my contract” is not really a valid argument or reason to bitch. You signed that contract with the understanding that this is what you will be paid. Thats on the actor! 2. We understand acting is a real job. OITNB is a show filmed in New York. Cost of living is expensive in New York. You can get paid what many believe to be quite a bit and still need a SECOND JOB!!! The fact you all want to whine and pretend its so awful this poor actor has to work a second job, is pathetic. Lets be real for a moment, she may be in 40 something episodes. Thats not even top 30 for the cast of the show. They have to pay the top 30 actors, the crew, production, directors, writers, and more. Netflix also has much more than OITNB to pay. And they do it alllllll from subscription fees! So i have no issue at all with the poor actors having to have second jobs, thats life. If you want Ads on Netflix then keep supporting these whiny ass attitudes. Or, dont complain when Netflix raises their prices while ALSO charging even more if you want ad free content! The level of uneducated takes that go behind people supporting this actors over exaggerated bs is ridiculous!

@johnzeigler9041 Жыл бұрын

It will be never and rightfully so. These are such awful takes and reasonings to support an actor crying like a baby. Guess what, MANY Americans work for companies and large corporations where their CEOs and and other Execs bring in quite a hefty sum! But you choose to work there. And if you need to work more at a second job you do it. If those jobs arent paying what you want, then you can leave. You can quit. To feel sorry for an actor who signed a contract and now wants to change that contract is so ridiculously pathetic. Learn how business works and if you arent ok with it, educate yourself and dont sign the contract you are expected to uphold. When Netflix has actors sign a contract you dont see Netflix choosing not to pay those actors when their show is a total flop. The actors have no one to blame but themselves. Sorry, not everyone gets to work their dream job, especially if it doesnt pay you enough to feel valued. Suck it up, you signed up for it!

@ML-yn9yu Жыл бұрын

@@johnzeigler9041 what a POS take this is. Considering the 1960s strike like this is how they got residuals in the 1st place. So you might want to take that faux blue-collar bootstrap mindset somewhere else and educate yourself?

@spicymemes7458 Жыл бұрын

Im amazed how craven people are regarding workers rights when it comes to actors. They arent all A-list celebrities with millions of dollars, holy fuck.

@majorlazor5058 Жыл бұрын

It’s short sighted thinking. People work their butts off and are underpaid so they have no empathy for others getting better pay. They don’t understand how if one industry raises pay, it inspires another industry and another. Eventually it will come around to your industry or maybe an industry you want to work in but you didn’t make a move because of the industries low wage.

@JordanNMovies Жыл бұрын

This really debunks the facade that every actor is rich. The ones who are or even starring in big blockbusters are only 2% of actors.

@HoofHearted88 Жыл бұрын

Dude, Kriss talks about how that actress is working a couple of days a month. Does she want to make a living working only a few days a month? I don't expect anyone to make a proper living working that little. That's wealth.

@diddy2612 Жыл бұрын

Lol these are stupid people if they thought every actor is rich

@73richg Жыл бұрын

Surprised John hasn’t called out his boy Bob Iger for his comments.

@ZakaZ1996 Жыл бұрын

Not too surprised, I noticed he typically avoids stories like that bring light to CEOs unless it's depicts them mostly in a positive fashion. He's done this a lot with Zaslav

@jzh8499 Жыл бұрын

The lack of empathy just in this comment section alone is disappointing.

@AmandaFromWisconsin Жыл бұрын

I don’t think they truly understand.

@kriscarr4929 Жыл бұрын

I’m honestly really disappointed

@oldflipgamer Жыл бұрын

@@AmandaFromWisconsinthey obviously don’t and it’s sad. They only see the top 1% of actors that make millions.

@ShoWulf_ Жыл бұрын

Trust me, there's reasons for the lack of empathy. At least actors and writers right now have a spotlight on their issues. There's plenty more industries doing worse to good employees who will go unheard and won't have the luxury of a spotlight of news coverage. A deal will be struck and they'll all be back to work is how this ends. My empathy goes to those who actually need it and are not lucky enough to have a voice. Actors and writers are not the only ones getting raw deals in the entertainment industry. The facts are depressingly vivid.

@jzh8499 Жыл бұрын

@@ShoWulf_ I hear you, but these issues don't have to be treated as though they're mutually exclusive. I can empathize for low wage workers in any industry - it's not a zero-sum game where showing empathy towards one group diminishes the empathy available for others.

@AlisonCrockett Жыл бұрын

I wish people had listened when musicians talked about this concerning Spotify and as far back as Apple iPods. We couldn’t make money as others controlled how much we were making and are still getting fractions, FRACTIONS, of cents for each song played. While Spotify is making 100s of millions…

@EequalsMCu Жыл бұрын

I love when Kris talks business. During the strike 🪧, Jon shld let her have her own show where she brings in her actor and writer friends to tell their stories. You’re welcome Jon!!

@kriscarr4929 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@yourkingreturns Жыл бұрын

People are like "but that's how us NOOOORMAL folks work get over it" Why is that something you wanna brag about?? No one should be working like that lmao

@sonicboomkj Жыл бұрын

That recent article about how networks figured out how to get out of paying 'cost of living' when actors are having to temporary live where the show is being filmed was ridiculous.

@grim_2000 Жыл бұрын

can you link the article plz?

@spaveevo Жыл бұрын

I dont know why everyone isnt behind them. We all should fight large companies for higher pay. All of us....but a certain group is willing to fight and people hate it. At least they are willing to fight for what they think is fair. Most of us are too scared in our jobs to even form unions.

@Renwick_Davis Жыл бұрын

Kris makes a salient point. People bring up the struggles of the average worker and fail to connect that this isn’t a struggling contest and most actors are just regular people who also just happen to be in movies and TV shows.

@SpiderHam Жыл бұрын

This has been so disheartening but so needed. I’m rooting so hard for those on strike. This is the kind of change that can affect many different industries.

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

We had the same thing going on 60 years in the past, you know that right ? Meaning changes be small, it’s just a pain for the viewers.

@OutsideTheRopes Жыл бұрын

27,000 a year? Wow, that a crime for a working actor. I make more than double that and I don’t work 12 hour days.

@terrencerowe Жыл бұрын

So basically, what you're telling me is that these companies are out here telling actors/actresses that they'll be compensated in exposure?

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

People who think that because other people suffer and are exploited, that these actors should have to endure that also. BUT NO ONE SHOULD. Everyone deserves fair compensation, and if they’re are essential and their job needs to be done then they deserve a bare minimum. Everyone does. This system is broken. Profit is put above human lives and it’s wrong. And it’s irrational as a normal thinking person to be a bootlicker for rich powerful snakes. Really intellectually/emotionally stunted.

@hajduksplit698 Жыл бұрын

You mean others who never get the slightest publicity and support that those in the entertainment industry get? Give me a break. The average actor doesn't give a damn about the plight of workers around the world, yet these guys think they are entitled to receive everyone's sympathy. We are all supposed to just drop everything and pat them on the head just because of the particular industry they chose to be part of? What, are they better than the rest of us? Give me a break.

@adey126 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kris for speaking truth to power.

@MyWorldYourView Жыл бұрын

Want me to really piss you off with Netflix? They budgeted $1.6million ($1,600,000) for their Emmys party this year. For a party. Recent decisions, too. Like, last week.

@Joeisacat007 Жыл бұрын

@@BizznessBox Maybe that’s the reason Netflix came up with the new side business. Lol

@ericmack001 Жыл бұрын

This news is surprising. But lots of hard working people struggle to pay their bills. I work in a hospital in New York City. The Doctor’s threatened to strike. They were given a raise. But plenty of Doctors in New York City work 2 jobs, or do overtime. Lots of hard working people struggle to pay bills. The Doctor’s jobs are just as important as an actors job. But the actors will probably earn more!

@garyp3472 Жыл бұрын

New York doctors tend bar on the weekend? Cool

@jonathanstubbs8158 Жыл бұрын

Doctors are far more important than actors.

@73richg Жыл бұрын

The kid from Stranger Things Gaten Matarazzo was a server at a restaurant in NJ between seasons.

@Alton7771 Жыл бұрын

I like how everyone is then just get a second job but if another they like liked RDJ demanded a lot of money for a role the same people will say give it to hirm that much he worth it

@HARLEMHEFNER Жыл бұрын

I can believe every word she said. I worked for Orange is the New Black.we filmed at Kaufman studios in Queens New York. Those was some ruff days we had to deal with long production days. Fanatics, overzealous fans, and Stalkers small dressing rooms for the talent. The best cast and crew I had the opportunity to work with. But those women had to deal with alot behind the scenes.

@diagunner7811 Жыл бұрын

Shit! That’s crazy and sucks. I always knew that there were always problems when filming and getting everything done right but damn! I’m also sorry for what your through as well.

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

Capitalism is the heart of not just this issues but a lot issues that plague modern society. Whether you’re talking about these strikes/exploitation. Or the soulless empty nature of their bad movies and reboots. Animators being overworked via “crunch” times. Outside of the arts, we see the problems with healthcare, education, climate change, social media, mass incarceration, broken criminal justice system, and a lack of collective/communal bonds, and on and on. Capitalism, greed and the profit motive incentivizes unethical domination of your fellow human beings. Putting human lives in competition with one another. All essential and normalized under capitalism. IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY. We can make sure everyone gets what they need and that we all can live happy comfortable lives, and we will all be better off for it. We will keep seeing these problems until we solve the problem at the core.

@metallicnole4514 Жыл бұрын

If you're hinting towards the alternative (socialism), that will never happen in the US

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

@@metallicnole4514 I don’t know. Maybe not in my lifetime but it’s the most viable solution to the Late Capitalist hellscape. Socialism is more popular with younger people and generally looked upon favorably. We can at least worked towards it for the better of all of us. I think the truth will have its day eventually.

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

@@Penguinzero1 I already replied to your bad comments.

@metallicnole4514 Жыл бұрын

@@IamBrixTM It may be more popular with younger people for now. But eventually when they get older and start making any significant amount of their own money, they're not gonna want the government taking a lot of it.

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

@@metallicnole4514 Wondering why Dr.King and Albert Einstein didn’t grow out of their socialism🤔

@vincentwalker3280 Жыл бұрын

That sounds like an agent negotiation issue.

@awebb274 Жыл бұрын

I hope the SAG and the WGA hold out for as long as possible. Workers deserve to be compensated fairly

@kaceynm Жыл бұрын

For those of you saying that these actors are just going through “normal problems”. Normal people working for billion dollar companies shouldn’t have to scrimp to survive when the company can afford better either. The actors are actually doing something about it.

@luke_1234 Жыл бұрын

Don’t live beyond your means

@michaelsell6328 Жыл бұрын

Many work in businesses that make millions and live paycheck to paycheck. I feel zero sympathy for these people.

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

@@luke_1234True, if you can’t afford more, don’t go for more 🤷‍♂️

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

Y’all forget those millions and billions aren’t for one person. It’s always said, wow the billion dollar companies, yeah that’s from ceo to the smallest worker that just cleans the toilets. So why tf should the cleaner get CeO money ? Or even more money if there are so many that will do it for the same money and be happy. You gotta for yourself got to manage your life, jobs can go anytime, like they come evrytime. You just gotta do some if you not already are high profile. Same like the Studios, they make those billions with all their hustle, not just because of one project, so they gotta pay even more than just one project 🤷‍♂️

@DaddyJones92 Жыл бұрын

Have that same energy for all billion dollar companies. Hollywood is no different.

@AtlantaJonny Жыл бұрын

Really interesting convo. Special thanks to Chris for sharing her personal experiences.

@nikitaaverin 11 ай бұрын

I used to be a model/actor in my teens and I landed the male lead in a commercial. I got the equivalent of 2100-2400 dollars for one shooting day. However, I needed to pay for going to castings, callbacks, fittings, phone bills, a prep day (there was some stunt work involved even though I for sure wasn't a stunt man), etc just to get that gig. And I was going to school, worked in a video store and had no financial backing from my family and had rent to pay. Then comes taxes on top of this. And the casting agent was SHOCKED that I wasn't treating it like I got a jackpot. Well because reality is that if you are highly visible in a gig, other clients tend to look the other way in later castings even though you're not a spokesperson for the brand. So sure, flattering to land a gig, but at the same time it won't change your life. And I have no idea how many photo shoots I did basically for free because it kind of looked good on my set card. Friends and family thought it all sounded glamorous and kinda thought that I more or less was set for life, while it actually was hard work, loads of determination, more "no's" than "yes's" and you kinda know that you have an expiration date for certain types of jobs. Fortunately for me, I did make some great friends in this era of my life, but it's not a cake walk.

@First_Stop_the_Bleed Жыл бұрын

If one were to work 40 hours a week and make 10K a year, that person has worked for $5.21 an hour, possibly before taxes. In southern California. There needs to be a customers union so we can threaten to cancel our service until the companies begin treating their employees fairly. You want leverage? Imagine Netflix having to deal with their 232.5 million subscribers (or a significant percentage) cancling their subscriptions at once.

@JAF729 Жыл бұрын

Orange is The New Black had such a large cast, if they paid them what they deserved the show wouldn't have existed. That doesn't make it right to not pay them. Everyone deserves a fair wage. When the streaming services end up paying actors and writers more the result will be fewer shows. These shows with have lower budgets and smaller casts, they will be quickly canceled if they don't do well out of the gate. Expect an increase in cheap programing like reality, true crime, and cooking shows. All of this with a price increase dumped onto the consumer who will have less selection and quality to chose from.

@iraford5788 Жыл бұрын

Great topic.

@HashimWarren Жыл бұрын

Netflix hasn't made a profit yet, and Netflix stars don't get paid well? I don't understand the economics of the entertainment business

@josh-suber Жыл бұрын

Me either. I feel like most of it is borrowed money.

@EdwardSanchezProductions Жыл бұрын

I feel so bad for kimiko

@KungEMuller Жыл бұрын

This is getting crazier and crazier now. Of course, this really shows how many actors and actresses are really poor and how many of them are actually making money.

@smartybabytv5547 Жыл бұрын

They should show views on each episode or movie like KZfaq it’d be cool too for the viewers to know what’s popular or underground/niche

@JohnAlexGrimm Жыл бұрын

I get the non livable wage thing. I think inflation plays a big part too because the cost of things are increasing faster than any pays are. I make $20 (can) an hour and if i was living on my own in Nova Scotia i may as well be homeless. So i hope the actors and writers get what they need.

@josh-suber Жыл бұрын

Residuals are very interesting, because I understand the reasoning and agree. But the fact is that many people create things when hired by a company and they don’t get paid every time that thing is used. That would be unsustainable. The fact that SAG was able to negotiate something like this at all is amazing.

@warpspeedracer Жыл бұрын

I fully support actors/actresses to get what they deserve. Is it a supply vs demand vs talent thing? I'm from an engineering background and entry level engineers typically start at $55K-$70K based on experience. However, an good engineer is hard to come by, so we usually hire on the higher end. Even then, everyone is replaceable. I suppose it is not that cut and dry when it comes to acting. It's seems like the value is more abstract to quantify.

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

It is, bad supply (scripts), no demand (people leaving streaming and skip content) and the talent that’s missing like 50% of the people in the guilds.

@DEATHxTHExKIDx1 Жыл бұрын

Nothing changes unless the rich fat cats start taking pay cuts and start compensateing everyone at the bottom. Thats every industry.

@levantz Жыл бұрын

I don’t think most people believe B actors are rich after their first role. That’s why most people wash out if believe. You have to sacrifice years and be broke trying to make it in such a dream job

@derheadbanger9039 Жыл бұрын

I guess there is another problem besides the low payment: the rent is too damn high!

@Chucky7286 Жыл бұрын

I am going to say this again and again and again - Netflix needs to get their house in order. They have been very very wasteful over the years and that is not right. I guarantee if we were to get the numbers of show that they offer and of that total how many are performing, I assure you we will see something very wrong. The good shows that bring in the viewers, ergo the subscribers or money, are financing the dead shows, which I am very confident is the majority of the shows. This is poor management by Netflix executives.

@richsport Жыл бұрын

Has John spoken on Zaslav yet or he gonna let him slide 🤔🤔🤔

@majorlazor5058 Жыл бұрын

Or his Daddy Bob Iger?

@TheFilmGuyOfficial Жыл бұрын

the issue is the streamning service model dosnt work, the money isnt their.

@chazharris Жыл бұрын

That's not the writers or actors problem to be frank, the companies got themselves into this mess and changed the business model and it's time to pay up.

@michaeljeacock Жыл бұрын

when the execs ae getting 30-million-dollar bonuses then the money is there somewhere.

@AnarchyDragon6 Жыл бұрын

The money isn't their what?

@elchamber Жыл бұрын

Netflix is pretty much an internship that only offers exposure and college credit.😂😂😢😂

@LSDJ4Y Жыл бұрын

Welcome to our world

@TheArtkaw Жыл бұрын

You should go on strike then, you're being fucked over lol

@Jaycy845 Жыл бұрын

You’re also a being exploited btw

@Yungwatergaming_yt Жыл бұрын

It truly is fucking outrageous

@MrRas1982 Жыл бұрын

So, out of the 48 episodes, how much did she actually make? Also, what's this equivalent to when working a regular job considering it's not a permanent job?

@mcthorwmalows Жыл бұрын

If you dont mind How much is the average salary of a writers and a b class actors per year?

@noneyabusiness2237 6 ай бұрын

No one forces you to accept a job, no one prevents you from asking for more money. If you don't like it, form your own studio with your disgruntled actor friends and pay yourselves what you think you deserve. The reality is, actors are a dime a dozen. Same with all the people who work....grips, makeup, etc. You can be replaced. They will simply move all the studios to Texas if you make it too expensive in CA

@HectorGonzalez-gb2qj Жыл бұрын

Look studios got a very interesting problem, with streaming and inflation. In my opinion, I think theaters is becoming a dying business.

@giovannisynthesis Жыл бұрын

Health insurance in CA is crazy expensive if not through your employer. $4k to $5k a year?

@carloconopio6513 Жыл бұрын

Is CA have no public hospitals for poor or middle class?

@kriscarr4929 Жыл бұрын

I’m 3k a year and that’s with me being on a covered California plan

@giovannisynthesis Жыл бұрын

@@carloconopio6513 they have those free hospitals but you have to wait forever n it’s always busy. Probably getting half ass treatment. Also people that don’t want to work get free healthcare while we pay for everything ourselves. Even with insurance, it adds up quickly if you get sick and you have a cheap health plan.

@sidra_games4551 Жыл бұрын

For half-hour shows, weekly salaries were a minimum of $5,665 per week and $9,064 per week for one hour shows. For multiple programs, such as a mini-series, actors in 1-1/2 hour shows were compensated $3,114 per week and $3,670 per week for two hour shows. Can't verify for accuracy but that's a google search for actor scale pay. Why can't they pay their cab fair? This is where some of this gets hard outside looking in. I understand general concepts but I don't understand mathematically where the problem is. Those are scale rates worst case scenario.

@sidra_games4551 Жыл бұрын

@@justnickperiod4658 I can't make a determination about the facts because I don't know what the facts are. I am assuming for shows you get jobs that run like 2 weeks to 6 months where your are out shooting. And you get paid those numbers I posted per week based on the type of show it is. If I am wrong, I am more than happy to be educated. Not digging in to the position just trying to get an idea of what someone on a shows makes for the duration of that show. Because what I did find doesn't seem so bad.

@jarent2652 Жыл бұрын

I think half your income goes to your agent and management

@ericmack001 Жыл бұрын

In New York City rents are crazy high. If you are a “successful” actor living in New York City you are going to want to live at a certain standard. I can see how that can get expensive quickly.

@thedefinitionisthis Жыл бұрын

There's also a massive difference between the stars/principal actors, and actors who are extras, who only have bit parts, and don't have consistent gigs as a TV regular. There's a misconception that EVERYONE who appears in a TV show or movie, background actors included make big bucks. This is about those actors/actresses; who do have to live paycheck to paycheck within the system of the career they've chosen. This ain't about the Brad Pitts of the world; this is about the Civilian #4's of the world.

@kriscarr4929 Жыл бұрын

Sure you could get paid that weekly- and only work 1 or 2 weeks of the month, but be on hold incase the production schedule changes. Which means you aren’t taking other jobs. Plus you’re giving at least 20% of that to your agent and manager. Plus taxes.

@johaneggink Жыл бұрын

In my opinion actors should get proper payment for the work they deliver. The producers take the risk on the success or failure of the production. I do wonder if the residuals were introduced in the past as an agreed deduction of payment now with the prospect of receiving more later. As in:" I could pay you your nornal salary now for your work (100%) or we could pay you 60% now as salary but if it is a succes you will probably earn another 60% which ads up to 120%. So the potential of earning more IF the product is a success. If that was the trade-off at the time and you want to keep that model with streamers that is fine to negotiate. But then you accept the risk of living of 60% if you are in unsuccessfull productions for 2 years, for instance. You kind of forfeited the right to complain about having to live of 60% if you chose the model that has this risk element in it Wouldn't you prefer a 100% pay instead? I would.

@linkjourney422 Жыл бұрын

Something tells me that the reason why these streamers are so dead set on not revealing the numbers, is because if they did, it would be discovered they were committing Fraud, and could be held liable

@Phelie315 Жыл бұрын

I don't think anyone is actually believing that they don't know how many people watch a show. Of course they do, theyy are probably tracking every little detail, not just who watched but also how fast, how often, how many people skip the intro and how much they pause in between, and all of this neatl sorted by demographic. I am convinced that all streaming services have that data available and could publish it instantl if they had or wanted to.

@josephelizondo3579 Жыл бұрын

This is why we had Antitrust laws. Netflix should not be allowed to produce the content that they also stream.

@nervenllarena4948 Жыл бұрын

WTF are you talking about?

@josephelizondo3579 Жыл бұрын

For years, TV Networks were not allowed to produce their own TV shows. This was changed years ago. This was to prevent this exact conflict of interest thing going on with Netflix. Antitrust laws are supposed to stop this.

@michaelmartinez7414 Жыл бұрын

Woe ! Woe ! I agree with you about anti trust laws. But Netflix was paying other studios for product. Disney decided to take them on because Netflix refused to sell. And all the other studios followed Disney's example thinking they would crush Netflix. Netflix had to create there own product. Not saying they're doing it right.

@boomshakalaka656 Жыл бұрын

Even if they knew how many people are watching, eyes are not equal to revenue when it comes to sub based streaming services.

@vincem3393 Жыл бұрын

There is NO WAY to make good $ with residuals on streaming lol the streaming companies are barely breaking even already. They can’t pay EVERYONE what they feel they deserve on all these shows lol it’s not possible. I want the actors and writers to get their $ too though. Because some of these studios if not all have enough $ to at least pay more up front.

@byronkennedy7203 Жыл бұрын

You dont get paid what you're worth. You get paid what you negotiate for. Thats why I think this strike is going to last a while.

@HUBRISTICAL Жыл бұрын

Was SAG AFTRA trying to get more money for those actors taking cabs back then? Honestly, we’re they??

@TheGrimStride Жыл бұрын

I guess it depends on when the unions contracts ended. When contracts end is when you renegotiate your terms

@Boags Жыл бұрын

I want people to be paid very well. But me caring if one actor is set for life just for being on one show, no.

@Phelie315 Жыл бұрын

set for life maybe not, but not being able to even afford to travel to set is, I think, inacceptable.

@michaelsell6328 Жыл бұрын

@@Phelie315so like a lot of normal people that have normal jobs outside of playing make believe for a living.

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

@@Phelie315It’s not, you gotta know what’s in the contract. If they say it’s like two cities away and you don’t know how to get there, should they send you a limousine ? Lol nah,

@cpu939 Жыл бұрын

I can understand an extra or a minor actor (not age) like in one or two eps and screen time is limited. -But if you're part of the main cast your agent should be doing a better job of getting you paid right. companies no matter what industry is going to pay the minimum they can that's why we still have a minimum wage every penny they save is a penny in profit yes I( do think the companies should pay more

@TerrellAustin19941 Жыл бұрын

Damn

@brianfarley9947 Жыл бұрын

When that show was running, Netflix was losing money hand over fist for years. Obviously these actors weren't mega stars otherwise they would have been making additional cash from other projects. Nobody "deserves" anything aside from what is in their contract. After they have honored their contract, they could have gone and taken better money from a different imaginary company willing to offer them more. This attitude of entitlement is gross. It's as moronic as a model for a painting demanding residuals for every person who looked at their painting in a museum.

@TheGrimStride Жыл бұрын

Her story gives me “Larry, I’m on Ducktales” vibes

@kriscarr4929 Жыл бұрын

😂 yes

@JayPatrol Жыл бұрын

WWE writers are haven’t gone on strike yet lol☺️😊

@s.r.h.3554 Жыл бұрын

So who negotiated the shitty deals for these actors? Maybe Netflix said take it or leave it…seems like they took it. I guess they were afraid of getting passed over. When I got my job they said this is what we pay, take it or leave it. I took it.

@FortunaFavored Жыл бұрын

Are you dense?

@farakhhanif Жыл бұрын

That is because when the last deal was negotiated, streaming was still very new, so no one knew how to compensate workers fairly for their work in streaming. Now, actors can see how poorly it pays to do streaming shows compared to network shows, and they want to change the structure of compensation.

@jarent2652 Жыл бұрын

I think sony produced it. They also own the rights to the show

@Rockindaxmike Жыл бұрын

Why can’t stream companies put ads in shows again? I mean that’s what’s gotta happen to make everyone happy. It’ll piss off consumers but this will hurt content in the future. Hopefully they can get creative in advertising so that it will be acceptable for the consumers in todays world

@ricobuttonpusher7061 Жыл бұрын

Uhh they do. You’re paying for no ads. How are people this stupid?

@frankvee Жыл бұрын

I see what Kris is saying, but I don’t think she has thought it through. So, an accountant should only be paid for their work when they’re actively doing accounting, but an actor should be paid each time the show is screened? What about an aircraft engineer? Should they be paid a yearly salary or should they get residuals for each time a passenger boards the plane and takes a flight?

@tonyfan872 Жыл бұрын

Well the difference here is that aircraft engineers work for a company, and they get paid a stable monthly salary from the revenue that their companies make from each ticket. Actors don't usually work for any single studio so their income is almost entirely dependent on their work, usually the one-time paycheck, which apparently isn't enough. So imo it's very reasonable for them to ask for residual or a higher paycheck.

@grim_2000 Жыл бұрын

@@tonyfan872 there are plenty of jobs that are not "working for a company for stable salary". Drivers get paid when they drive (whether it's taxi, truck or DoorDash delivery), tutors get paid when they teach, etc

@tonyfan872 Жыл бұрын

@@grim_2000 Yeah I agree, my point is that you can't really compare these jobs with the likes of an aircraft engineer for example. Whether they get paid enough for each time they work is another matter.

@grim_2000 Жыл бұрын

@@tonyfan872 well, yes & no. No two jobs are exactly alike, but you can still make parallels. How accurate they are is a separate question. Basically, no matter which argument you have, there is always an option to go "yeah, but XYZ"

@cyrussmith4744 Жыл бұрын

@@grim_2000 Like the previous commenter pointed out, you examples are still not proving your points. Drivers, teachers, etc are different from actors because they don't create something and leave it for others to consume regularly, they get paid for the time they work (they didn't make the car or the school for other people to use). Comparing to an engineer and pointing out that they get a stable salary in comparison with a similar result for their work is still worth pointing out

@waydephilpot3749 Жыл бұрын

I always thought all actors/actresses made decent money. Like a RDJ makes $50mil for an Avengers movie and a minor character with a speaking role would make like $20k. This story makes it seem like actors are making minimum wage which is insane. Society has glorified and idolized actors which has lead to the misconception. It’s unfortunate that non-megastars don’t make more money, but we could say the same about most jobs. I’m sure the “shot at making it big” in Hollywood is what most are striving for, but it’s a long shot for most.

@rickf9807 Жыл бұрын

I never heard of her, I know that show was popular with a certain segment of the population. The main issue there is so much content out there, people don't watch 90% of the shows / movies out there. The other issue is winning awards for SAG is not the same as a financially successful show.

@ShoWulf_ Жыл бұрын

There's problems with many companies under paying and mistreating their employees. Many of them are not in the public eye. It's all very sad but everyone has a choice. If someone is unhappy with the fairness of the employer then they should not take the job or should just have a second job to balance the pay like the majority of people do. Most people want to live comfortably doing their dream job but that is not the reality of most cases. Acting is just another job like any other unless you're a movie star. Not all actors are movie stars just like burger flippers at McDonald's aren't top chefs. You get paid according to your worth to the company because we are all replaceable in their eyes. Most actors are a dime a dozen just like McDonald's employees. There is nothing wrong with having multiple jobs and people who are lucky enough to even get paid to realize their passion should not be b!itching after the fact. Be grateful you get to do what others will never get a chance to. Life is unfair to many people. No one is ever completely satisfied and that's a shame when it comes to empathy.

@vchmiele Жыл бұрын

Does she have receipts? I'm dubious that she personally wasn't getting fairly compensated?

@TheArtkaw Жыл бұрын

Nobody has to prove anything to some rando internet commentor.

@juanpedroza2216 Жыл бұрын

They talk all the big name actors and how much they make now but I’m curious to know how much they got paid when they just started working? Because you gotta remember these big name actors have been in the industry for 20-40 years. Everyone has to put in their work in order to make a name for themselves. You just can’t expect to walk in this industry and expect to make millions just because you work in a popular show. When they say we are struggling to pay rent well I wanna know how much is their rent and are most of these people spending more money than they bring in? Cuz that actor from orange is the new black looked like she was wearing a very expensive dress. Yeah I know I’m probably most likely gonna get shit for my comment but I’m just curious.

@gold9ja Жыл бұрын

You are right about the big name actors, for example Denzel Washington was a struggling actor who worked as a trash man before he made it big in Hollywood. So these big names started out struggling before they made it.

@Wingededge Жыл бұрын

I watched Orange is the New Black and while Kimiko's character was entertaining, she was very replaceable and not what made the show successful. Her "tits" being on screen forever is irrelevant unless you want to start a different discussion about nudity on screen. If actors want residuals, they should only start getting paid once the show is successful. They want the benefits without the risk...

@user-by3nd4rm6c 11 ай бұрын

It's not about what your personal opinion of the show or her character is, it's about what the math tells with monetary regard to streaming

@NP31330 Жыл бұрын

You can apply this topic to just about every job out there. I guess actors and actresses are different though???

@grim_2000 Жыл бұрын

Yes. The whole industry is basically unionized, hence they can do it.

@mosquitoinyourears9973 Жыл бұрын

Just pay them. How greedy can you be?

@Tony-sd6wx Жыл бұрын

Average Americans don’t get residuals from the companies we work for. We agree to a wage. We agree to our hours and we go home. I’ve been an extra in a few tv shows. Sometimes I got paid other times I didn’t. But I wanted to be on tv. So I stayed on set all day long for days. Because I agreed to it. Not to complain later and say they owe me because the show is popular. Most actors are gambling because they want to be famous. And fame comes with a bank. To be naive and say actors need to work other jobs to make it, Join the club. It’s why when you go to cons they charge 50-100 to shake their hand and get a autograph. Working class Americans don’t have that luxury. The power rangers are still making money off a 30 year old show. You want fame? You can bus some tables.

@victorvalandybernard7944 Жыл бұрын

Shut up

@justified004 Жыл бұрын

Just so you know, not every actor is a mega star or a millionaire. SAG is over 150,000 members. Residuals aren't a thing most Americans have to worry about, but that is what their union negotiated decades ago. Other unions across the country have negotiated many other things that normal hourly workers don't have. So you can't compare them to everyone else. This is what happens when you have a specialized career field and a union. As far as residuals go, it has more to do with an actor's name, image, and likeness being used forever. Normal TV pays these residuals, but the streaming services don't, or they residuals are miniscule. Even if the show is super popular and has millions of views on a service, the residuals are almost nonexistent.

@Tony-sd6wx Жыл бұрын

@@user-vw6ke3ok2m running a company and background actors are in the same category. Gotcha

@omniframe8612 Жыл бұрын

They don’t make money off that show, wtf are you talking about they were paid TRASH because the execs bullshitted them and took advantage of them what are you talking about?! Its fights against corporations like this that ensure what happened to them doesnt happen to everyone at large. You fight against powers that choose to be inhumane you don’t cheer for them. And its not like i fully disagree with what youre saying but that powers rangers point is not true at all and is on a long list of reasons as to why this strike is happening.

@majorlazor5058 Жыл бұрын

What a low IQ argument. Most people don’t have a job that create a product continuously generates profits. There are in fact jobs with residual income… a lot of sales job for example give residuals to salespersons the convince customers to re-up their service.

@MasterPiece-rg7ed 11 ай бұрын

Find a new job then...

@UsurpersAndAssassins Жыл бұрын

The world is changing and everybody needs to change along with it. The old days of residuals are gone. And let's not forget the housing bubble and inflation are what's really responsible for all this misery, not Hollywood. One way Hollywood could fix this is to sign on contract actors for a salary and house them in a barracks style living environment.

@k-slay4407 Жыл бұрын

Damn. That's actually not a bad idea.

@n.blacke1948 Жыл бұрын

Its not alarming. People are so desperate for fame, they are likely to act on these shows for free. Celebrity worship is a sickness that plagues us. The studios have all the leverage in this situation. They understand the game. They know that many people will sell their soul for a shot at fame. Why would they pay a kings ransom for someone to act in a show when they know this?

@TheGrimStride Жыл бұрын

Why would an actor act for living if they can’t make a living?

@n.blacke1948 Жыл бұрын

@@TheGrimStride they shouldn't. They should get a real job. A meaningful job. People shouldn't be paid a lot of money to play make believe.

@Zombub Жыл бұрын

@@n.blacke1948They're providing a service, and the service is entertainment. It's called the entertainment industry for a reason. It doesn't matter what industry it is, workers deserve to make a living wage. The fact actors aren't making more than $27,000 a year is unacceptable

@n.blacke1948 Жыл бұрын

@@Zombub what would be an acceptable amount? Do you think someone appearing on a Netflix show should get paid as much as a Doctor, Lawyer, or a tradesman? 27K is around 13 bucks an hour. That is low. I agree, but I can't see them making much more than 20 bucks an hour. You have to put it in perspective. What they're doing is not that meaningful or essential in the grand scheme of things.

@thestarkster9940 Жыл бұрын

@@n.blacke1948 “I used to be embarrassed because I was just a comic-book writer while other people were building bridges or going on to medical careers. And then I began to realize: Entertainment is one of the most important things in people’s lives. Without it, they might go off the deep end. I feel that if you’re able to entertain people, you’re doing a good thing.” Stan Lee

@ChrisControversial Жыл бұрын

This is the one thing I don't honestly believe. I really feel like yes they should get paid more but if you're making 60k+ maybe you should also look at your finances

@victorike3102 Жыл бұрын

Most of them don’t earn 60k a year

@andrebetita Жыл бұрын

Where did you get 60k? Most of them aren't even making half of that.

@tylermccourt5723 Жыл бұрын

I'm 29, and I've been living paycheck to paycheck for a long time, and yes, I know how to save money. It's been tough, but I get up every day and still go to work. Hopefully this all works out.

@gilharrison8696 Жыл бұрын

Is anyone here still getting paid for a job they did 20 yrs ago?

@FortunaFavored Жыл бұрын

Different jobs have different pay structures. If the studio is still making money off the distribution/exhibition of the product - so should the people who helped make it.

@farakhhanif Жыл бұрын

If the company is profiting from your work 20 years later then you should get a cut of that profit.

@DroosterH Жыл бұрын

Why are there lots of clueless people in the comments section?

@vchmiele Жыл бұрын

@@FortunaFavored Not really. I've worked on plenty of products that are still making the company money. That's what the money is for.

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

3:59 John, you talk good stuff, but got to see the other angle as well, why should small actors get Denzel-Money ? There’s a reason those high profile actors get these amounts. And they mostly deliver at least. Why should extras have the same amount or higher amount for less work ? And yo, everybody got to manage the way to work, don’t matter if Hollywood or Netflix or wherever. I don’t think you pay Ray, Jonathan and Kris’ way to work, a car or what not.

@OhGeeGanksta Жыл бұрын

They will probably become rich, but they’re not likely to be during their breakout film/show.

@iraford5788 Жыл бұрын

Not all actors in Hollywood become rich A list billionaires, as the majority of them barley make more than the average citizen or minimum wage.

@johaneggink Жыл бұрын

This was her break-out role indeed. Het name wasn't the reason people were drawn to the show, but she did give a good performance. And that opened doors for her. Different sites estimate her net worth now around 3 million, so I guess this show was a great stepping stone for her setting off her carreer.🤔

@liferealgood Жыл бұрын

Alot of people have second jobs. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I need more context. Who had second jobs and how much were they paid during this shows run?

@stevieuhh Жыл бұрын

Just because a thing is common, doesn't make it right. In a healthy economy, people should be able to live with dignity without working more than a single job. Hell, I work three jobs and I still barely make it.

@liferealgood Жыл бұрын

@@stevieuhh are you saying it's a healthy economy? People sometimes work 2nd and 3rd jobs to 1) pay off loans, 2) plan for a vacation, 3) living beyond their means, or 4) or help their family. I had a sick mother who couldn't afford medicine so I worked late nights with Amazon. I did it temporarily until we found the right insurance.

@liferealgood Жыл бұрын

@@stormtraitor6545 It isn't the only way to go. There are loans and grants. Depends on the situation.

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

It’s Netflix, not high profile Hollywood 😂😂😂 „We then proceed to define the two alternative logics that are currently shaping the production and distribution of films. The first, which we label “commitment logic”, is the traditional “theatrical release” (that is, the screening of a movie in a cinema) logic of the five Hollywood major studios. The second, which we call “convenience logic”, is manifest in the digital libraries and subscription models implemented by newer entrants such as Netflix, Amazon Studios, and Apple TV+.“ - Journal of Cultural Economics volume 45 Plus they knew which money comes with the contract, so if they see it’s not enough in general for their life, people should check to make their lifestyle not as expensive or in general get a side-hustle. Especially in a business with temporary contracts and not promised continuation, beside most of them not anywhere near high profile, tf should some background extra have Leonardo-Money ? 😂

@OrangeHand Жыл бұрын

No one's saying background extras should make 7 or 8 figures, these actors just want enough to make a decent living.

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeHand John did, that’s why I told the other way around to show it makes no sense to include high profile when whining about small actors and writers, that can’t even manage heir life with knowing in which temporary business they are in. Better negotiation before signing a contract would help too 😉 meaning they have to deliver as well to make that happen, my whole point is, you can’t outlive your means and standard. If you do, get a side hustle or what not, that’s what every small person does when purchasing their dreams. It’s not even like everyone is struggling, don’t forget that they want to live the Hollywood life (expensive clothes, restaurant, partying, living in expensive flats.) So like I said: IF YOU LIVE BY TEMPORARY CONTRACTS AND JOBS, YOUR LIFE STANDARD HAS TO BE EQUAL TO THAT OR YOU GOTTA SIDE HUSTLE AT LEAST 🤷‍♂️ it’s not like a cleaner at Apple gets ceo money, that’s just logic. Leonardo-Money is just an example, even 6 figures is too much for backgrounds 🙄 Kris’ even said max was 10.000 she got for one job. Dude, for one job, so if you are needed and wanted, you got enough jobs to live your life 😂 Even effing 27000 a year would be enough to live, depends only on your standards 🤷‍♂️

@_TheViewer_ Жыл бұрын

@@OrangeHand my boy, John even says that in example with Damon, Denzel and Leo, so I just took his example and showed where the flaw is. 3:31

@MarkArnoldMusic Жыл бұрын

Anyone who has ever watched orange is the new black will understand that it’s a massive ensemble show. Actors like Kimiko show up for maybe 30 minutes in an entire season. They are hardly on the call sheet, so of course they will need other work during filming. Netflix being called out for this is a little disingenuous. If Netflix’s filming schedule, contingent on its episodic writing, forced actors into contracts that prevented them from taking other acting jobs while they were waiting around, then that’s perhaps the fault of the writers.

@knuman Жыл бұрын

You didn't watch the video? Kris said Kimiko was in 44 episodes, and the entire series has 91 episodes.

@MarkArnoldMusic Жыл бұрын

@@knuman I'm watching the show as we speak. currently last episode of season 5. "Being in" an episode sometimes means appearing in a 2 second cutaway. Kimiko has been absent for most episodes. If being scheduled for a 2 second cutaway means being on set for the day, then they should get paid for the day based on their fee, even if they dont end up shooting. People try and posture empathy when they have no real idea what they are even being empathetic about. Netflix cannot afford to pay every actor for every day a show shoots over an entire season regardless of how little involvment they have and how many virtue signallers want to cry foul on youtube without understanding that there is still a business side to hollywood.

@luke_1234 Жыл бұрын

Don’t live beyond your means

@TheArtkaw Жыл бұрын

Yeah, please save money since Reed Hastings needs another superyacht.

@kriscarr4929 Жыл бұрын

How is asking for a living wage living above your means?

@luke_1234 Жыл бұрын

@@kriscarr4929 I’ve been able to live making only 28k a year living in SoCal. You have to budget yourself. And I’m sure these writers and actors are making more then that.

@djfunkgut Жыл бұрын

How much of the show is carried by kymiko?!? Lets be real … everyone isn’t going to be rich.. from being on a tv show if your character was to disappear would the storyline change?!? If not then you can’t scream about getting paid big money pay offs

@michaeljeacock Жыл бұрын

they're not asking to be rich. they are asking to get enough to afford food and rent.

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

You’re not being real lmao. People always deserve a bare minimum if they contribute to the show. They’re human beings. Stop being comfortable with people being paid scraps. No one needs to be rich, but everyone needs a viable bare minimum to keep themselves happy and healthy:

@kriscarr4929 Жыл бұрын

No one is asking to be rich, they’re asking for a livable wage.

@roycalderon7633 Жыл бұрын

I'm not sad for them. It's like Robert says. "It's not what you deserve, it's what you negotiate". And now, they are on strike to change does negotiations. Good for them. But in the mean time. Life is tough!

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

If that’s how you feel then you’re a shitty human being then. People being paid what they deserve should always be the priority. People like you make me sad, because you’re wrong and in the way of the world being a better place for everyone but are too emotionally stunted to even see the problems that need to be fixed.

@boomshakalaka656 Жыл бұрын

How much did the show make for Netflix ?? These actors are not making much yes but they are being greedy here!

@FortunaFavored Жыл бұрын

You need help

@KS-xk2so Жыл бұрын

It was one of Netflix's flagship shows, so assume a ton of their subscriptions were driven by them having OitNB. Therefore, it made Netflix a shitload of cash. If you are working full time and not being paid a liveable wage, calling that person greedy for asking for more is shockingly stupid.

@boomshakalaka656 Жыл бұрын

@@KS-xk2so l used the word greedy not because they are bad people but because most of the shows on streaming platform don't actually make that much profit from their production costs but the actors and writers are making it sound like they are generating loads of profits from their work. In objective terms that is being greedy.

@boomshakalaka656 Жыл бұрын

@@FortunaFavored yes which is why l asked a question that no one has answered with facts and figures.

@KS-xk2so Жыл бұрын

@@boomshakalaka656 Netflix made like 32 billion dollars in revenue last year, 4-5 billion of that being net profit.... but yeah... they're really strapped for cash.

@ShoWulf_ Жыл бұрын

Actors want to bish about can't afford this, can't afford that, but at least you're in the industry and getting paid at all for it. What about the people working at restaurants and department stores who have families and bust their ass for minimum wage who are barely getting by and can't afford things like streaming services because buying food is a priority. Boo hoo, have a 2nd job like the rest of us. A lot of people are hurting, not just actors. Why is this the only thing being covered? SMH, grow the hell up.

@TheShop90sKids Жыл бұрын

You’re missing the point completely. If you’re on a hit tv show. You should be at least making a livable wage.

@Quanic2000 Жыл бұрын

The "starving artists" are in the service industry too 😂

@andrebetita Жыл бұрын

Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.

@blueroninstudios Жыл бұрын

Bad take. Sorry.

@ShoWulf_ Жыл бұрын

@@TheShop90sKids I completely agree with you. I was touching on a larger conversation that I'm upset about that's not being covered. But I got to discuss it yesterday further with Kris Carr and another commentator in the comments. I work in the entertainment industry and it is very hard to make a living wage without burning yourself out or having multiple jobs but that's how it goes with several industry types. I just feel horrible for some people that will never see change or have the opportunity to be in the spotlight to fight for fairness. I'm sure I came off a certain way but it's very personal for me. I have my dream job but it's extremely hard to maintain and so many people are going through it. It's a touchy subject and makes me sad. People shouldn't be treated as disposable assets that are so easily replaced.

@loyldforger Жыл бұрын

Maybe it is the time to give up on the holywood dream. there are other jobs with few takers. I mean why not go into sciences instead of the arts.

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

Because art is amazing and important. Partially makes life worth living. Understanding that we all want these products, then we should make sure they’re paid enough to have a comfortable healthy living situation. And honestly I’m sure a lot of people in the sciences don’t have that either.

@collettewilson1319 Жыл бұрын

@@IamBrixTM Well said!! I took a class in college all about the importance of the arts and it opened my eyes to just how crucial art and entertainment is to society. Sure, making films aren't saving lives like doctors or helping to progress humanity like scientists, but art and entertainment help us to have fun. To dream (Stark Trek inspired the phone btw). And to take a break, live in someone else's story for a few hours before returning to our own. Life would be depressing without all the arts.

@IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

@@collettewilson1319 Exactly. It’s kind of a cultural reflection of where the minds of the masses are at in a way. Art is powerful and has influenced and shaped our culture a lot. (For better or for worse considering films like Birth of a Nation.) but also it’s capable of bringing about progress in its own way. It’s partially the reason Entertainment/Hollywood has generally been at the forefront of progressive causes. It’s entertains ideas/themes that we haven’t considered, and challenges norms we take for granted. Art is important in a lot of ways. Whether it’s challenging the status quo norms, or whether it’s just bringing us joy and comfort, which is also important. Unfortunate that people don’t realize how essential it is for human beings.

@pirastros1557 Жыл бұрын

Its sounding like they want to be paid like pro athletes without bringing in pro athlete ticket says and ratings. Theres' always gonna be a hierachy in paygrade, especially if you live near CA cost of living is going to be outrageous. I don't get why this statement is supposed to be sympathetic or controversial

@anduinslayer4829 Жыл бұрын

Really? Sounds like they just want livable wages.

@anduinslayer4829 Жыл бұрын

@@Ralph_Beckman who said they wanted to be paid like superstars? Most are asking for livable wages. You’re just twisting their words…

@anduinslayer4829 Жыл бұрын

@@Ralph_Beckman Livable enough when you don’t have to depend on a second job? Livable enough where you can qualify for some health care? They’re not asking for the same salary the top Hollywood actors are making.

@anduinslayer4829 Жыл бұрын

@@Ralph_Beckman You do not need $120k to live in LA as a single person. There are PLENTY of people making less who are still able to get by with way less money than $120k. Having roommates is normal in big cities like LA or Ny. Like Kris said, many of them are just asking for 40-50k salary, so they can at the very least qualify for basic needs like health care benefits. That is reasonable. What you are describing is a comfortable lifestyle with that salary. Comfortable is not the same as livable.

@anduinslayer4829 Жыл бұрын

@@Ralph_Beckman How am I moving the goal post? Who’s saying they want to make 120k, 100k or 80k? This actress certainly didn’t. You are the one picking arbitrary numbers and thinking that these are the numbers these low-key actors are asking for. Kris has said before that most people within the union are asking for a livable wage where they can have basic livable benefits like healthcare. The number she has shared is in the 40-50k range, which is not at all crazy to ask for. More than 80% of these people on strike don’t even qualify for health care benefits. Google defines a living wage as a theoretical income level that allows individuals or families to afford adequate shelter, food, and other basic necessities like health care.

@withoutthestatepodcast4989 Жыл бұрын

That sucks but so does basically everyone else

@isaaclopez-eb6yg Жыл бұрын

That's the point we shouldn't have to do that to make a living. We should all get proper pay

@anduinslayer4829 Жыл бұрын

So because normal Americans suffer, everyone else should too? We gotta stand up at some point or big elitist corporation will always take advantage of us!

@iraford5788 Жыл бұрын

That is really stupid horrible logic as you basically just said: It sucks that I'm struggling but as long as everyone else is struggling too it's ok.

@withoutthestatepodcast4989 Жыл бұрын

@@iraford5788 its not stupid. all of you are putting these people on a pedestal as if their struggle is more than the regular person. No one made this woman go topless for essentially nothing, (what it sounds like). it's like any other job, negotiate your pay before hand. Maybe they're just not worth as much as they think.

@HUNGRYFLOWER98 Жыл бұрын

I understand….but at the same time your average American is struggling so idk😂😂😂. Corporations make money off us and we get pennies . Sounds about right

@pudd66 Жыл бұрын

Pitiful we accept that as "about right". Disgraceful.

@Philliams Жыл бұрын

So support people who are struggling, all of them. This is just about a group of people standing up for themselves. Maybe everyone else in this country should form unions so they can stand up for themselves. I don't get this "It sucks for everyone so why fight for a better life?" mindset that so many people seem to have.

@mosesking2923 Жыл бұрын

Considering the actress is a side character with barely any dialogue, then it's no surprise that her salary is low. Just because you're an actor doesn't give you a right to a "livable wage." You freely signed a contract for a low salary, so go cry me a river. If you want a nice salary, go find a job field that actually contributes value to society.

@dunkirito8308 Жыл бұрын

Isn’t giving people entertainment considered giving “value” to society?

@janechoy2073 Жыл бұрын

You're missing the point. KG isn't complaining that her salary is low; she's complaining that she doesn't get any residuals / royalties of her work, which is being viewed and aired in perpetuity so there are always new viewers consuming the show repeatedly. She (and her colleagues) is getting paid only that ONE time. Put yourself in her shoes. If your one-time work is generating ongoing usage and money for your employer, and you know consumerslike your work, do you not want a piece of that ongoing future benefit, even if you are a "nobody".

@w10u1sg Жыл бұрын

this story is very suspect. I do not believe she struggled to pay a cab to get to work. Unless she has horrifying money management skills. I'm surprised John is taking this story at face value.

@ML-yn9yu Жыл бұрын

I mean, kris said at the end the New Yorker also did a story on little the cast was making.

@Zombub Жыл бұрын

@@Flubber-ee4no80k won't get you far if you're living in California. That literally can't even cover a house

@Zombub Жыл бұрын

@@Flubber-ee4no The cost of living for a single person to live comfortably in a bigger city in California is over $76,000. Considering a basic house starts at nearly $1M, an income of $80,000 in 3 months isn't that great

@Zombub Жыл бұрын

@Flubber-ee4no It's about the principle of getting paid what you're worth and what you've earned

@aaron827 Жыл бұрын

@@ZombubYou heard of rent?