They should've listened to Cavill. Good riddance.

the second they got rid of henry they should have used their collective 5 braincells at netflix and realized no one is gonna watch this without him

- Making a serie about a beloved serie of books. Check. - Hiring a writer that hates the source material. Check. - Make nobody read the books and source material. Check. - Fire the passionated people that work on the project. Check. - Still hire writers that have no experiences and hates the source material. Check - Create god aweful ideas and do not following the source material. Check. - Push your political agenda. Check. - Celebrate failure and blame the fans. Check.

It's not that we wanted Henry, it's that Henry was the canary in the coal mine. He kept telling them to just keep it to the source material. They refused. It's all we wanted.

Instead of going full polish medieval lore, paired with monster slaying they went full American tumblr tier.

The director of Witcher was off from the start. I cannot understand Netflix always sided with her. She just didn't get Witcher. I think she was trying to make Outlanders.

The funniest thing is that sapkowski wrote strong, compelling and intelligent women beacause he grew up with women picking up the slack as many, many men died in world war 2 and they did a damn good job. But apparently this is not good enough and they need to more like drama teens.

"Lets buy the tv licensing rights for an ip because it's popular and then change the story and characters." Fucking brilliant.

Expected it when they refused to get rid of incompetent writers; they were actually sitting on a goldmine and just threw it away

Two things I just can’t understand: 1. You buy an IP because it’s so popular, then hire people who don’t want to do any of the things that made the IP popular. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 2. The people who made the decisions in #1 still keep their jobs and then do it all over again with another IP. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

“30 characters that have no business still being in the story” I think we know why they are still here and it’s to check certain boxes if you know what I mean.

Saw it from the beginning, they mangled the source material back in season 1 and there was no possible way to salvage it from there. Most of the people didn't realize it because they are sadly not familiar with books

Adapting the Witcher novels should’ve been the free-est slam dunk of all time.

The Yennefer storyline was so hard to watch... - Doesn't get chosen as a mage, so therefore they refuse to give her the operation that makes her infertile but gives looks etc. - Refuses to accept that decision and forces someone to give her said operation, making her infertile - Spends the rest of the show complaining how the mages could do that to her, when we actually saw her doing it to herself with noone pressuring her into it or even wanting her to. How are we supposed to feel any sympathy for her at all with how the show handled her?

When even the cast want it to be over...

I agree with you saying 'it's fanfiction; it's not real anymore", but the anger and resentment is for the loss of what COULD have been. They had SO much at their disposal to make this good, and just didn't..

"Fan" fiction implies they were fans in the first place. They're explicitly against the fans and the lore. They literally said it on camera. Like most of our beloved IP's in the last 5-10 years. The creators actively hate the fan base and or the IP. Coming in wanting to do their own thing while wearing the IP as a skin suit. They actively tell actors to NOT read the source material.

The one thing Yenifer wanted more than any other was a child. She spent decades trying to figure out how to have a child. Then Geralt gives her a daughter, the best gift she has ever been given. In the books its the happiest she has ever been and she will easily die or kill for her daughter. In the show she treats her like garbage and is going to sacrifice her to get her powers back? Its like they had no idea what the books were about.......

3:30 THIS! If they decided to not stick to the books anyways, then why don’t make a series about Geralt and his Witcher friends fighting some monsters every episode? There is so much creative room of untold stories before the main story of the books take place.

Sapkowski drama with game and CD project started when his son was dying and he needed money to try to save him. Media presented it like he was some greedy old guy. I kinda understand him, he was desperate and even though he was the one who did not believed in game success and sold rights for let's say not much money. Also he was really angry when his books were published with visuals from game - that's when the meme that his books are based on the game started. Maybe someone will find it interesting.

I hate this. That feeling of loving something, and slowly watching it change into something you hate, but you still remember what it was and know what it could have been.

How do you have Henry Cavill and blow it this badly? It requires truly awful management and writing…

Fanfic writers of the Witcher can pull a better Story Than the 3-5 writers of Netflix that thinks they are Tolkien by creating the worst ideas ever

another example of why i dont spend money on streaming services anymore. if they can even bother to finish a story there usually trying to make some modern statement even if the characters they invent couldnt have anything to do with the timeline the story takes place.

They really had it all, they had Cavill who is an actual die hard fan of the universe, they got the fanbase of the books AND the games, the universe had a big hype after The Witcher 3 and yet they absolutely butchered it. Like, you actually cannot make it that bad by accident, it must've been done on purpose and even then it's hard to fuck it up THAT badly. What a dumpster fire.

West ruins media. Audience moves on to anime. West goes "Hey, this is popular now. Let's do that!"... Do you realize the reason it's popular is *because* you're not the ones doing it? It has nothing to do with it being animated in a certain style.

Yeah, little monster missions per ep with a wider background arc that wraps up near the end, the odd fan-fave returning character is all that was required like Mando season 1.

We had the Witcher as described by Asmon, it was called Hercules: The Legendary Journeys with Kevin Sorbo.

Bro, they did Eskel and Vesemir so dirty. In the games he was such a great fucking character. Yeah he was a dick some times-- but he always had a proper head on his shoulders. And Vesemir? He was practically Geralt and Ciri's father figure. And they turned him into schizophrenic old man. Wtf Netflix

netflix witcher: "dies from DEI" what a waste of potential, they only need to follow the source material for a surefire success and they failed because they have to be "creative" and meet the "western sensibilities".

People always say changes from Book to TV/video game/Movie and vice versa are bound to happen but they never ask do the Changes make sense?

The fact that Yen trying to kill Siri TO GET HER POWERS BACK was the dumbest thing ive seen....

What Disney did with Star Wars really infected every other company with brainrot. How is spamming 10 spinoffs of the same franchise within 3 years a winning strategy?

Wokeness is really a parasite.

The Rats were probably given to some writer that have good connections inside Netflix, that's how the world works. They knew it was gonna fail, but someone's nephew needed a favor.

When they had yen just straight up try to have ciri killed, i was like ok this is a twist and she was doing a chess move. Nope tried to kill her.

They complain about AI taking writers jobs. Things like this makes me root for AI.

Sapkowski didn't say he hated the games, he said he never played them because he just doesn't care for video games in general.

Gotta love that the covers shown of the books Netflix skipped all say "Now on Netflix"

bro Netflix is the living embodiment of the meme where the guy shoves a stick into his front wheel, crashes, then blames %insert_joke%

It's like being handed a goose that lays golden eggs and then chopping the goose's head off.

Henry Cavill was done. He was like: I cant take this shit any more

I think one of the main problems why things get so messed up... Witcher, Warhammer etc, is that the big companies that want to adapt them are heavy on virtue signalling. Which has its place, you can focus on the character that already exists and make them prominent, but instead they choose to change the narrative/create new ones where none exists. IDK. I get it that LGBTQ+ characters dont exist much in older books/universes or even female characters may not have been written in the ways where they are prominent. Like Arwen is a powerful character and has her place but Netflix would rather have her replace Aragorn's place or in that kinda position of power. But that kinda decision making warps the universe that is already in place and that the fans know and love if poorly written. And dont get me wrong, I'm all for having shows where a woman can be in a position of power/main character, but like within the context of the IP that you're in and the universe that is made. Mary Sue/Gary Stu characters are so inherently boring. And self inserts of these type of characters are just... Universe destroying. not specific to witcher/warhammer.

It was dead the second they fired Henry. That was my "Ok, I'm out" moment. Haven't looked back since.

Im glad it flopped. The changes to the original story and the lack of lore for the cast was bs

Knew it was cursed when one of the showrunners was talking about challenging the ideas of beauty with the Yennifer casting

What really baffled me about The Witcher in last season is all the not conventionally attractive sorceresses. They made a whole thing in season 1 about students of Aretuza giving up their ability to have children to become beautiful, and in season 3 Netflix introduced tweedledee and tweedledum. The actress who plays Keira Metz looked like an actual troll. She is as wide as she is short, her nose takes up most of her face and her hair is just wild. The second one was just a BIG black woman. Nothing wrong with either of them and they're beautiful in their own way, but i have a hard time believing that their characters gave up the ability to have children to look like that. It's the equivalent of me chopping off my ding dong to look like Guy Fieri.

9:45 this is going to be a golden one for the out of context quotes together with the ''I hate all people'' quote xD

Just imagine how bad it really was if even netflix said "this is bad cancel it"

It's kind of fascinating how little witcher is in a tv show called the witcher from season 2 onwards.

The difference is Sword Art Online got good again

Hiring one charismatic lead actor can't make up for hiring an entire staff who hate the source material, who openly mocked it and made it their mission to damage it as much as possible.

It won't be history. It will be herstory. 😎

The Witcher, a story about a guy whos part monster that goes and hunts down monsters for cash, with multiple love interests and a journey into becoming a great father figure while doing his job when big events happen around him. And the writers took all that out, and are shocked the fans revolted against them.

Tbh, its not Henry that we want to see, he can be replaced. It's the genuinity, we want to see them make movie with real care and real love for the lore, the world, the character. That is something that we rarely see in Hollywood movies. And they never learned. If they did, they should've think of Godzilla '98 and how Toho reacted to that back then before they adapt anything.

FYI, the games are actually a sequel to the books, so Andrzej Sapkowski not liking the games probably has more to do with he fact that he didn't write the story for the games, rather than the games diverging from what he wrote. In fact, he probably has a good idea of where he wanted to take the story if he did continue writing, but the games popularised his books internationally with most people's first exposure to the Witcher series being from playing the games. As a result, most people consider the games as being the canon story with the books being the backstory you can read after playing the games. There's also the fact that Sapkowski got screwed with the licensing of the Witcher as CDPR only gave him (at his own request) a one off payment for the license. I think all this adds up to his dislike for the games.

Netflix fucked around with the gamer community and found out... you can take SOME artistic liberties, but changing the story completely is just a bad move.

The producers were told it needed to be a DEI game of thrones, aka a soulless imitation. If you look at it like that, all the decisions make sense.

"But we have Geralt at home"... Gerald at home.

I mean, ending with a cartoon isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes the only chance at an ending is through a film, animated or not. Todd and the Book of Pure Evil is a perfect example. I am so happy to get some closure for the series when I discovered the animated film after such a cliffhanger ending in the series.

It’s amazing how much they fucked up what was so difficult to fuck up.

Imagine taking a beloved IP and not do anything that made it good in the first place, couldn't be Hollywood.

This is what happens when you have disdain for the original material.

It was so easy for them. All they had to do was follow the main plot of the books and add artistic flair when it promotes the visual medium. P. Jackson did it well with Lord of the Rings. They had all the resources they needed at their fingertips. All they had to do was emulate a story and make money. It's insane how CDPR managed to craft an original story and still preserve the original theme of the book series, while they were still a small team of Polish developers. How on Earth did Netflix not manage to outshine a small team of developers while having the advantage of telling the original story?

Imagine the actual writer of the books tell the World in an interview, "I tried to give the live action writers some advice, but they didn't listen to me" 😂

Why? Turning a boy franchise into a girl franchise always works. Always. Works.

RIP Witcher… 😔

Star Wars: Set the bar... The Witcher: Hold ma beer...

CKProjekt's game storylines didn't come directly from the books, but they're wildly successful so we know they didn't need to copy the source material perfectly to get good results. They just needed to respect the source material and worldbuilding.

Looks like they pulled a "game of thrones" move. How can they fuck this up so bad?! So much potential!

I want to address what you said about the writers. I agree with you. They did think they could do it better, and were even laughing at the source material in the books and making fun of it. I am an author of fantasy, and speaking from the voice of experience, the writers should have known from day one that you cannot write someone else's characters better than they can. This was Peter Jackson's success with the Lord of the Rings, because he and his writers adapted the source material, instead of trying to rewrite it. Had the Netflix idiots realized that, perhaps the show would have been much better than it was. Henry Cavill did a perfect Geralt, and brought him to life so well, it blew many fans away. Some were even willing to keep watching in spite of the bad deviation from the lore, just because he brought Geralt to life and embodied him so well. Liam is a good actor, but he does not have the chops to fill Cavill's shoes in this show. It's only going to further destroy what could have been an incredible show, and will potentially damage Liam's career.

"Get the coat hanger. " Asmon is truly gold!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

The Witcher is what happens when your ego outpaces your brain.

Yet another case of someone thinking "So those books are successful? I can do it better!" Surely they can fix this when they try again, and throw a few more millions at it.

fallout is a great example that tv show adaptations CAN work if done in a way that respects the source material. if only the halo show did the same

These Producers and Writers should be identified and blacklisted.

Its like they hire their writers and producers not based on skills, oh wait a minute.

do yall understand how bad a show has to be for netflix to cancel it MID production? 💀💀

I stand by the fact that these showrunners should never do a 1:1 remake. Instead they should make a whole new story set in the universe. That way they can have all the creative freedom they want without the public expectation to follow every story line. Fallout is a great example of this.

my most hated part of the witcher was showing the wild hunt are just normal dudes under masks lol

Its a constant cycle of people being in charge of a project that dont give a damn about the project over and over and over again

they really butchered The Witcher, it´s worse than I thought. It´s like they never wanted this show to succeed, judging by their decisions it seems like they wanted it to bomb

Big oven works basically the same

My biggest gripe with all this is that if any of us were to cause our own respective companies such massive losses by being willfully ignorant and doing a horrendous job, we'd get fired. Especially if we antagonized or blamed our companies' customer / client base. In most industries that's grounds for termination. How do these people not only still have their jobs, but were continued to be offered *multiple* projects? I'm glad they are finally calling quits. 2 and half years too late but it is what it is.

What Netflix did to the Witcher is an absolute travesty. No two ways about it.

Anything Netflix touch breaks.

This is actually so sad. As a huge fan of the Witcher books, they had a really good storyline to work with and they decided to make it weird.

"I have an oven that works, but I don't know how to use it," LITERALLY as I laughed at this, I realized I haven't used my oven in maybe 3 years.

it was dead when that one guy left

Vesamier sacrificed his life for ciri. Wtf are they thinking

You cannot watch a series without the main character... it's like going out to catch a shark without the equipment.

I don't really understand why they need to change the plot of the books. You have a book that you know that works and tells a good story, why would you risk changing it? And if you want to change it so much why don't you do an original series?

I am confused, does the Netflix Witcher take places in Wakanda?

As an og Polish fan who grew up on the Witcher books 2 decades ago, I'm dead inside

People give to much credit to Season 1. It was 90% fanfiction as well. Not to mention plastic, rubber scenography, rubber swords, disgusting armors (nilfgardian armor in particular) and general lack of cohesion. It was a mess.

The problem is not ego per se man. The issue is they want to get a bigger audience and cater to more people assuming that they will have the core audience all the way. Instead what they should do is cater to the core audience to make sure you have them always and as the core audience raves about the show you will naturally attract new fans.

Producers ruining shows is becoming a thing. It’s like they get to it first and drain out what they can until they realize nobody cares and then bam they throw it down. With that nobody can go back and try and redo it because everyone will remember this 💩

Hell, even season 1’s direction was all over the place with the 2 timelines at once thing. The show had potential but the director didn’t know what she was doing

When Netflix has a layup as good as Cavill, and the stories from the Witcher world, they somehow still manage to mess it up. I'm proud of Henry, he stuck to his guns and he is RIGHT. Netflix did this to themselves. They've earned this level of stupidity.

This is what happens when detached echo chamber crazies get a hold of something. Part of it is their massive ego ("I can do it better than the creator"), and the other part is thinking the entire world agrees with their social rhetoric and wants to see it crammed into every show.